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Is there ANYTHING else I can do- Universal Credit Help

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creditfedit · 27/09/2021 22:44

Name changed as outing

I was a student nurse and have I qualified 2 weeks ago. My last day of university was 30th august and I started a job as a nurse yesterday .

I am a single parent of 1 DD (aged 6) and have received universal credit throughout my training. I received roughly £320 then this went up when the extra £20 a week was introduced. This was a massive help and covered my rent. As my student finance was taken into account when my Loan is calculated I am having approximately £500 deducted from my claim each month. I have had 0 dealings with universal credit since I made my claim. I had enough out aside to last me for September but needed my claim to be recalculated in order to last October.

So! Here comes the the issue. I notified them on 31st august that my course had ended, that I would be starting a new job and that my claim needed to be recalculated to allow for my new none student status and for the fact that I am no longer receiving funding. I called to ask how I do this and was told to leave a message in my journal. All good, did this. I have absolutely no income now until I get paid on 28th October. I have about £30ish in my bank (NOT a begging thread at all before anyone thinks that. I have plenty of family to help this is purely a UC question)

5th September I had no response so I left another journal message just asking for a response to say my message has been received. Nothing.

8th September, called twice (first person’s computer was down), spoke to an agent who said all he could do was escalate it up to a case manager, that they would action it and recalculate the claim and to not to worry, the claim would be recalculated in time for my next payment (29th). He said I would receive a response from Debbie my case worker within 48 hours.

48 hours pass, no response.

I call again, I am once again told my claim will be sorted and recalculated and not to worry at all. Couple of weeks to buy and I check my payment schedule online and my claim has not been recalculated!!!! Even though I was ASSURED it would be.

I left ANOTHER journal message. No response
Called again and spoke to an agent. It was like talking to a brick wall. She said there was nothing they can do over the phone, no one they can escalate it to, all sbe could do was resend it to my case worker. I asked if I could change case worker as I have had 0 response to any of my messages, her answer was I need to request it in my journal (which is being ignored). I asked if I can see someone face to face. She said I need to book that… by putting a message in my journal. That’s all she could say, put it in your journal. I’ve now sent 6 messages over a 4 week time period and not a single one has been responded to. She once again escalated it to my case worker and told me if I didn’t have a response by 6pm today to call tomorrow, guess what no response.

I am actually astounded by this system. I am lucky that this is my first proper dealing with it and can’t wait till I get paid next month and I can cancel my claim. I despair of what this system must be doing to people, i Am stressed to the max and I’ve only had one month of dealing with it, I can see how people on long term benefits top themselves because they must not get anywhere!

Anyway I will be calling back at 8am tomorrow. I’m not sure what for because I know what they’ll say. Is there ANYTHING else I can do? I’ll be getting a payment of £400ish, my rent is £310. I’ve emailed my housing manager to advise of the situation. I’ve never been this frustrated in my life.

Thanks for reading if you’ve gotten this far 🙈

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creditfedit · 27/09/2021 22:46

Excuse the typos!

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WetWeekends · 27/09/2021 22:50

I would try your MP’s office. Their staff have telephone numbers to ring the back office teams so will be able to escalate it for you.

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Littleants · 28/09/2021 01:18

Your councillor may also be helpful if your MP not available. I wasn’t allowed to argue with the DWP but my councillor shouted at them for me

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Thistooshallpsss · 28/09/2021 01:42

Google raise a complaint and a gov page allowing you to make a complaint comes up. This should enable you to bypass your journal. Some citizens advice offices may have a back office contact as well. Hope that helps.

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OhLordyWhatNow · 28/09/2021 02:04

What date is the end of your assessment period?

The system will calculate your next payment using income information supplied by HMRC. If no data received before assessment period ends you should receive a full payment on your normal pay day.

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OhLordyWhatNow · 28/09/2021 02:05

Try the Turn2Us benefit calculator to estimate what your next payment may be.

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Mummamama · 28/09/2021 02:56

I'm not quite sure why you need to get them to recalculate? As long as you have reported the changes to income on your account they will automatically work out what you can get for your next payment.

However i do agree the journal system is awful. Left messages myself with no response but yesterday left a message to close my claim and they did that within hours!

Can you ring your local DWP office where your caseworker is?

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 06:53

I have raised a complaint but ‘nothing can be resolved on the phone call’ and I should expect a phone call in 14 days to discuss.

I need the deduction removing as I am no longer in receipt of student finance. The deduction for finance isn’t like the deduction for earnings, I don’t receive the finance monthly like a wage/salary. When I commenced the course they did a calculation and since then £500 a month is deducted from my claim. This now needs removing as I am not a student anymore.
It’s not like with a wage where it’s automatically adjusted. This £500 deduction is just running until I earn too much to not be eligible/stop my claim

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 06:54

Also I asked if I could just ring to speak to my caseworker but was told this was not possible. I’m not even sure what the point of the phone line is, they can literally do nothing over the phone

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 06:55

No information comes from HMRC, my only income was student finance

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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 28/09/2021 06:57

How bizarre! I've never found UC to be like that - they are always very responsive.
You can apply for an advance payment but you have to do it over the phone. Google universal credit advance and you'll find the phone number.

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Theunamedcat · 28/09/2021 06:59

Over how many months did they split your student finance? Some do it over 12 months some over 10


Are you in universal credit survival on Facebook

Have you done an actual change of circumstances or just put a note in your journal

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SmileyClare · 28/09/2021 07:11

Pp is right. Go to your journal menu. Click Change of Circumstances and report there under employment and income.

Your payment should be automatically changed. Check in "payments" to see if it has been adjusted.

When do you receive your next payment? You have to give a certain amount of notice in "change of circumstances".

It's crap that you aren't having your journal messages replied to.

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 07:59

I’ve done the change of circumstances and journal message. My course is a full 12 months at a time (no summer off etc) so it was just my student loan/grant, minus whatever the allowance was then the rest divided by 12 to give me an ‘income’ (that’ll I’ll pay back 😅) which is then deducted

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 07:59

I gave over a months notice

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 08:00

I’ve stRted employment but won’t actually be paid until 28th October

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 08:00

So my income for this assessment period is £0, £0 wages and £0 finance

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 08:01

Also I tried to apply for an advanced payment and they said I couldn’t have one, I was only eligible for a budget loan for a one off cost

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SmileyClare · 28/09/2021 08:12

Right, sorry I see you've checked under "payments" and your next payment due hasn't been recalculated.

You must feel like screaming although I'm not that surprised. I've had great difficulties with UC. We've had to claim because my husband fell off a roof and cannot work at all.
His journal keeps telling him to attend a work search review at the job centre or have his payment cancelled.. he's flat on his back with a broken pelvis and can't bloody walk (as I've reported loads of times on the journal!) There have been huge delays and I've now been told to claim PIP instead although there's a 4 month wait to have that claim processed. Wtf Sad

Do you have a job centre near you? All I can suggest is going in person and demanding this is sorted? ..even though you don't have an appointment..and you're a single parent.

As a Op suggested, the citizens advice bureau are usually helpful, you can contact them by phone or online.

Good luck.

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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 28/09/2021 08:18

@creditfedit

Also I tried to apply for an advanced payment and they said I couldn’t have one, I was only eligible for a budget loan for a one off cost

You need to ask for it for the right things. If you tick the right box they will give you one.
It's called a budgeting advance. It is a loan, as in you repay it. Is that what you were offered?
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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 09:51

The person I spoke to first passed me over to another department who said I was only eligible for the budgeting loan. He kept repeating ‘do you need a new washing machine’, now I think he was hinting for me to say yes so that he could give me money for that 🤣. It’s so frustrating and as I say, I feel terrible for people who have to deal with them all the time

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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 28/09/2021 12:50

They won't ask for proof of what you need it for. It's not fraudulent to lie as you'll be paying the money back anyway. Call and say you need an advance for new household goods and you'll get it

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SmileyClare · 28/09/2021 15:25

You could ask for the advance/budgeting loan to tide you over as suggested but it seems bloody unfair you have to do that and repay it.
You are owed money for the month of September when your funding was removed and your income was zero. I suspect it's going to be like banging your head against a wall trying to recover the missing U C payment though.

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creditfedit · 28/09/2021 18:41

Just a quick update! Somebody called me at 6.15 from DWP to advise that they have removed the deductions and sent a payment of £580 over which is already in my bank! And then I’ll receive the ‘wrong’ amount tomorrow as well. Which is such a relief as I wouldn’t be able
Pay my rent. He advised that they should have been contacting me yearly to ask for my student finance details and it should have been relooked at on a yearly basis. So it’s seems like it’s resolved! Don’t know whether it was my complaint or what but whatever it was seems to have worked

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SmileyClare · 28/09/2021 19:29

Really pleased for you. Smile
After my own experience with UC, I understand how frustrating it can be..It was obviously an oversight on their part, so well done for persevering. I hope they apologised!

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