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ColdemortReturns Wed 20-Jan-21 09:10:25

When you have a common saying where both words mean the same thing. Such as 'cease and desist'.
Theres a word for it. Please help, it's driving me batty and google isn't helping!

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CaptainMyCaptain Wed 20-Jan-21 09:11:35

tautology

www.dictionary.com/browse/tautology

ColdemortReturns Wed 20-Jan-21 09:13:49

CaptainMyCaptain

tautology

www.dictionary.com/browse/tautology

No, I dont quite mean tautology. It's a specific word describing a 3 word phrase where it's a repetition.
Now any others examples have fled my mind too sad

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ladyvimes Wed 20-Jan-21 09:18:58

Legal doublet?

ladyvimes Wed 20-Jan-21 09:20:19

Or just doublet

Plexie Wed 20-Jan-21 09:24:00

Never heard of it but @ladyvimes is right:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet

ColdemortReturns Wed 20-Jan-21 09:24:30

ladyvimes

Legal doublet?

I was just looking at that, although I dont think all my examples are legal terminology. Although the only other one i can think of at the moment is 'null and void' so maybe...

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Hippychickster Wed 20-Jan-21 09:25:00

synonym?

ChardonnaysPetDragon Wed 20-Jan-21 09:25:56

It's very much a thing in British English, like bits and pieces, hot and bothered, spic and span.

It's not a simple tautology, because it involves the use of the exact same pair of words in the exact same order.

MrsHamlet Wed 20-Jan-21 09:27:33

Collocation. It's a type of fixed expression.
You can't have "cease and stop" or "girls and gentlemen".

Hippychickster Wed 20-Jan-21 09:27:45

Probably not, sorry, I missed the 'three word phrase' bit

LittleRa Wed 20-Jan-21 09:28:56

A redundant expression?
Although that isn’t a “three word phrase” that you asked about as doesn’t necessarily include an “and” but things like:
“Final outcome”
“Advance warning”
“Free gift”
“New beginning”

KaptainKaveman Wed 20-Jan-21 09:28:57

The expression 'cease and desist' actually demands two slightly separate actions: the imperative verb 'cease' demands that X is immediately halted. The second imperative 'desist' requests that X is not restarted at any time. In layman's terms it means 'stop doing X, and don't do X in the future'. Therefore although the meanings are very similar they aren't identical.

ColdemortReturns Wed 20-Jan-21 09:54:57

I might mean pleonasm. But that's not quite right either...

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ChardonnaysPetDragon Wed 20-Jan-21 10:08:08

Binomial expression, Google tells me.

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