Teen Party Saturday

[Devilesko]

A group of about 12dc all from the same household (school)
Aged 16+, would obviously speak to parent first, make sure not much alcohol, etc.
The next day they'd all be in school together.

My worry, they've already been pulled by Police once, they aren't breaking any laws being out, and were told as much but all had their names and addresses taken.

[WhereverIGoddamnLike]

School doesnt count as the same household.

Schools are encouraging distancing, keeping windows open where possible etc.

Are you hosting this? Cancel it. You're not allowed.

[Alexandernevermind]

Not MUCH alcohol? For 16 year olds? Crikey!

[RigaBalsam]

What tier are you in?

[Devilesko]

They are allowed, school don't seem to have a problem with it.
Police don't seem to have a problem with it, they aren't breaking any laws I don't think.

Sorry, the alcohol part meant what any parent would check, they aren't encouraged to drink.

[Devilesko]

It's Tier 3 Manchester, they won't be back home until Christmas.

[RandomMess]

Do you mean they are at boarding school?

[Bailey0703]

Tier 3 LAW•
You must not mix socially with people you don't live with in any indoor setting, whether at home or, for example, a pub or restaurant, unless they are part of your support or childcare bubble.


You must not meet with people outside of your household or support bubble in a private garden or in most outdoor public venues, such as pub gardens.
• There are exceptions - for example, if your household or support bubble is larger than six, or if someone enters your house to carry out work, registered childcare or care for a vulnerable person.
• You may continue to mix with friends and family you do not live with (or have formed a support bubble with) in certain outdoor public spaces, such as parks, countryside, public gardens, allotments, outdoor sports facilities, and playgrounds. You must not meet in a group more than six, and you must follow social distancing rules.
• Meeting in larger groups is against the law, and you can be fined up to £6,400.

[Devilesko]

Yes, they return on sunday anyway.
It would only be the same household as designated by the school.
They don't/can't mix socially with other households whilst at school.

My problem is they have all been at home this week, half term. One or more could have caught covid.
So I said no, definitely not.
But, the argument was they'll be mixing in this household from sunday anyway.

Am I being mean saying no, or should I let mine go?
Or is there any mixing element I've missed.

[AriettyHomily]

I don't understand. Is it boarding school?

[Devilesko]

Yes, it's a boarding school, the party is at a childs city centre apartment I believe.
Then, it would be home saturday night after the party to return to school the next day.
But surely there's a chance that mine could catch it at the party and infect us before returning to school.
I want good reasons to say no, otherwise I just look like mean mum when other parents are allowing it.

[HasaDigaEebowai]

The reason is its the law.

Plus they don't spend their time at school snogging

[Desmondo2016]

At the point they're having the party it's a gathering of 12 from separate households. So it's illegal. Regardless of them returning the enxt day.

I agree it's non sensicle but given they've been home all week first is it any different to twelve kids in the same class at a normal school having a party this week? That would be obviously wrong.

Nb I'm not actually saying I have a problem with it in just pointing out the facts. And to the pearl clutched who commented about 16 year olds and alcohol... Completely standard I'm afraid 😄

[Hoppinggreen]

I can think of quite a few reasons why my 16 year old DD couldn’t go to a party with alcohol in a Manchester City centre Apartment even without Covid
Also, I doubt they are actually a household

[Notonthestairs]

Teen coming back home after party? If so it's mingling of households.

[sunsalutations]

It illegal, plain and simple.
Don't try and bend the rules, they apply to all.

[sunsalutations]

And they've already been pulled by the police once.
Were they given a warning?

[user1493494961]

I think there's a good chance another apartment owner would call the Police once they realised a party was going on.

[Devilesko]

I did put 16+ some of them are 18 already, they are 6th formers. Some y12 some y13, just to be straight.

It's fine if I can say it's illegal, I don't particularly like the idea myself.
It's just that nobody seems to think this, other parents, school, Police.
I suppose it's because they mix all the time during the day, sleep in the same rooms, eat together, hug one another etc. They are considered a household. Perhaps they'll have one at school instead. I'm not sure why they didn't just wait.

They have been stopped and other households in the school, several times. Everytime they go out in a group, unless that particular officer recognises them.
It's good to see the Police are taking it seriously.

[Quaagars]

@Devilesko

A group of about 12dc all from the same household (school)
Aged 16+, would obviously speak to parent first, make sure not much alcohol, etc.
The next day they'd all be in school together.

My worry, they've already been pulled by Police once, they aren't breaking any laws being out, and were told as much but all had their names and addresses taken.

• 12 children at school together isn't the same household.

That'd be breaking the law.

- Not much alcohol at 16? Blimey, good luck with that, if I can remember correctly the 16th party I went to, people were smuggling some extra in as they knew they were allowed it lol

My worry, they've already been pulled by Police once, they aren't breaking any laws being out
Are you in the UK? You're allowed to mix in groups of no more than 6 even in the most lenient tier, so you're wrong to think that 12's OK and it's not surprising they might have been stopped.

[SuzieCarmichael]

Is there some kind of question here? Your initial post isn’t clear at all.

[Quaagars]

Just seen you're tier 3 - DEFINITELY not allowed then!
Not sure what you mean school is alright with it?
It's got bog all to do with school, it's the law.

[Devilesko]

And they've already been pulled by the police once. shock
Were they given a warning?

Why, they aren't doing anything wrong. The Police just spoke to school security on the gate to check they were from the school.

[Quaagars]

I suppose it's because they mix all the time during the day, sleep in the same rooms, eat together, hug one another etc. They are considered a household. Perhaps they'll have one at school instead
Yes, it's a boarding school, the party is at a childs city centre apartment I believe
Then, it would be home saturday night after the party to return to school the next day

Even if they are as you say classed as a household at school, if they're mixing OUTSIDE of the school at a party together, they're already over the 6 limit before they even get to the party with other people there!
Definitely not allowed however much they try to find a loophole.

[halcyondays]

Even if they could be classed as a household while at school, that wouldn’t apply once they’d left the school to go home to their families for half term.

It’s definitely illegal and they could easily be fined.

[Ginfordinner]

I can think of quite a few reasons why my 16 year old DD couldn’t go to a party with alcohol in a Manchester City centre Apartment even without Covid

I think you are being a little naive here. As the parent of a 20 year old, I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of alcohol free parties DD went to at that age (one of them being her own 16th birthday, believe it or not).