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Have any of you met a true 'psychopath'

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Hearnoevilspeaknoevil Wed 23-Sep-20 21:30:38

Just wondering.
I watched Des last week and found it chilling. The utter ordinariness of Dennis Nielsen and the normalising his awful crimes.
I was thinking how terms like psycho are so overused and often used to describe overly angry or irrational behaviour.
I believe it's more about a very controlling person who operates outside any 'normal' behaviour boundaries.
I've only met one person who I would say is a psycho. Some with narcissistic traits, plenty of angry people but that cold dead reasoning and complete lack of empathy or even humanity, is much rarer.
Interested to see what others think. Or have experienced.

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IHateCoronavirus Wed 23-Sep-20 21:32:55

I believe I used to teach one. I often wonder what became of him. A very chilling and troubled child.

BuffaloCauliflower Wed 23-Sep-20 21:35:10

Yes, the then husband of a family friend. Truly nasty, cold man. Drowned his child’s hamster in front of them as a punishment.

woodlandwalker Wed 23-Sep-20 21:37:00

I used to have a boss like that.

gamerchick Wed 23-Sep-20 21:38:20

Yes, he was 10 or 11 at the time. One seriously deeply disturbing kid. Totally souless. I hope I never see him again apart from when he's being locked up. God help the reason he's locked up though.

Hearnoevilspeaknoevil Wed 23-Sep-20 21:42:29

@ihatecoronvirus.
How chilling. How long ago if you dunt mind me asking?
Mine was an ex colleague. No empathy, cold eyes and gave many a feeling off something 'off'.
He had a darkness. Whilst we worked together another colleagues young son had an awful accident whilst under the care of grandparents. A totally freak accident. Involving a runaway car with handbreak failure.
He stated that it was the grandfather's fault for choosing that particular picnic spot and then made 'jokes' about the incident, including to child's dad shrugging off the outrage he caused. He left abruptly not long after. You van imagine the rumours.
I was reminded of this when watching Des. Like Nielsen, am unremarkable looking man too. No hint.

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Polyxena Wed 23-Sep-20 21:43:24

This thread will be full of people MNer have taken a dislike to and decide to armchair diagnose as psychopaths. Just the same as every exH and Mil is a narc.

Expect a lot of chills (multiplying), Bad Feelings, Genuine Beliefs, Read About It Online and other spurious assertions

SpeedofaSloth Wed 23-Sep-20 21:45:07

After reading Snakes in Suits I thought I recognised some behaviours at work, definitely. Not the same as a diagnosis, of course.

CMOTDibbler Wed 23-Sep-20 21:46:30

Yes, with a diagnosis. Very personable

Cherry678 Wed 23-Sep-20 21:48:12

Quite probably. I have my suspicions I've met one or two. They usually end up in certain roles and especially gravitate towards centres of commerce like London etc. I watched a panorama or horizon once and they said statistically the number of psychopaths rises significantly once you get to the the M25 and continue further in towards London.

IHateCoronavirus Wed 23-Sep-20 21:50:44

Hearnoevilspeaknoevil

**@ihatecoronvirus**.
How chilling. How long ago if you dunt mind me asking?
Mine was an ex colleague. No empathy, cold eyes and gave many a feeling off something 'off'.
He had a darkness. Whilst we worked together another colleagues young son had an awful accident whilst under the care of grandparents. A totally freak accident. Involving a runaway car with handbreak failure.
He stated that it was the grandfather's fault for choosing that particular picnic spot and then made 'jokes' about the incident, including to child's dad shrugging off the outrage he caused. He left abruptly not long after. You van imagine the rumours.
I was reminded of this when watching Des. Like Nielsen, am unremarkable looking man too. No hint.

In the early 2000s he would have been a young teen.
Chilling, as in very calm, charismatic yet took pleasure in torturing objects/wildlife etc. Drew very disturbing images in his books would speak openly about torture.

Techway Wed 23-Sep-20 21:51:05

I believe an Ex manager was, everyone knew that he was devoid of empathy and utterly ruthless.

I also believe my Ex H was similar, maybe a sociopath as after a long marriage I learnt stuff about him that he had kept hidden.

They say sociopaths are made, psychopaths are born.

DeliasDinner Wed 23-Sep-20 21:51:52

Psychopaths are often extremely charming. Not easy to spot.

Dillo10 Wed 23-Sep-20 21:56:43

Not personally but my ex H was a psychiatrist at Broadmoor prison and some of his stories were truly chilling

daisychain1620 Wed 23-Sep-20 22:03:39

I remember watching a program which said that psychopaths tend to be high achievers and can be very top boss of large companies or in a really good career. They are less caring of who or what they need to trample on to get to their goal. Not all psychopaths are monstrous killers, just lack empathy so can attain their goals without annoying a conscious

Howmanysleepsnow Wed 23-Sep-20 22:06:25

Yes. I work in mental health, but have met a couple of others. They were both very successful.

Blackberrycream Wed 23-Sep-20 22:12:02

Yes.
I taught a boy when I was working in specialist provision who was very personable but would discuss very disturbing fantasies. He was 10/ 11 at the time and I was pregnant. Smiling, he would ask how I would feel if.. insert horrible scenario. Once he discussed cutting my stomach open and slitting my babies throat. I know that by mid teens, he was being held in a secure unit. It still chills me because in many ways he was very likeable and charming.

tootiredtothinkofanewname Wed 23-Sep-20 22:17:12

psychopath no. sociopath yes.

IHateCoronavirus Wed 23-Sep-20 22:19:41

Blackberrycream

Yes.
I taught a boy when I was working in specialist provision who was very personable but would discuss very disturbing fantasies. He was 10/ 11 at the time and I was pregnant. Smiling, he would ask how I would feel if.. insert horrible scenario. Once he discussed cutting my stomach open and slitting my babies throat. I know that by mid teens, he was being held in a secure unit. It still chills me because in many ways he was very likeable and charming.

Sounds very similar to my boy. Let’s hope they were the same one and that there are not two of them!

Stella8686 Wed 23-Sep-20 22:22:26

I worked in a small basement kitchen. A male pot wash was hired. He was 50 ish and from Bulgaria, he smelt a bit and there were rumours he had a drink problem.

Anyway the management had hired him without checking references. He was due in court for sexual assault on an old lady in a care home...

We was convicted

Thanks to my shocking employers for making me and other team members work with him alone in a basement angry

Nothing ever happened and he was innocent until proven guilty but they were the worst people I ever worked for have ever met

BrowncoatWaffles Wed 23-Sep-20 22:23:12

I was internet acquaintances (met twice) to a man who it turned out murdered his wife. Just thinking about it makes me feel sick. He seemed like such a good guy.

MyNameForToday1980 Wed 23-Sep-20 22:33:03

Kinda... ExBf in my 20's was diagnosed with anti social behavioural disorder (ASBD). He was charming, sociable, popular, charismatic, successful, but entirely empty, there was no genuine happiness in him, at all.

He wasn't abusive, or at least not in the standard ways, but it's fair to say that I left that relationship a different person than I went into it.

Blackberrycream Wed 23-Sep-20 22:34:41

IHateCoronavirus
They do sound similar. I guess there are lots of early classic signs. The boy I knew wasn’t into drawing though.

MyNameForToday1980 Wed 23-Sep-20 22:34:48

ASPD, for the love of God.

Personality, not behavioural... It's been 20 years. blush

Frownette Wed 23-Sep-20 22:39:28

BuffaloCauliflower

Yes, the then husband of a family friend. Truly nasty, cold man. Drowned his child’s hamster in front of them as a punishment.

Poor kids and hamster sad

The kids will never forget that. I'd run a mile from anyone showing deliberate cruelty to animals.

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