Please help me narrow down my pram search

[peachypetite]

I’m honestly finding it overwhelming!! Criteria

• suitable from birth ideally so I don’t have to have the faff of a separate carrycot for newborn unless anyone can tell me pros for this?
  
• not too heavy because I’m petite and weak.
  
• very easy to fold down
  
• lightweight because I live in London and don’t really see a time I’ll be needing something all terrain.

[Stargazer87]

The Oyster 3 ticks all these boxes, it's amazing! I had similar criteria and tried out so many and the Oyster 3 wins hands down!

[OrangeGinLemonFanta]

Baby Jogger City Mini

www.pramworld.co.uk/baby-jogger-city-mini-2-jet

[Rebelwithallthecause]

I love my cybex Priam

The seat goes flat so I never needed a carrycot

It’s easy to fold

It is lighter than the icandy

It is not super lightweight though

It’s a dream to manoeuvre

If you or DH is tall it’s perfect as the handlebar goes the highest of all of them and the baby seat is one of the longest available (if you might have a tall baby)

[Zippy1510]

Another vote for an oyster here. I live in a city in a small terrace and needed something compact, lightweight that manoeuvres well on a busy pavement.

[BammBamm]

I'd look at the baby joggers. The mini is light, has an easy fold and is compact. We had an elite which we loved but it was heavy and quite bulky folded. We had a mini for holiday. The GT is a good middle ground. If you're bothered about parent facing there's also the premier.
My sister has just bought an icandy which is lovely but I don't think it will last too long. She has our old elite for when it's outgrown.

[Bluebelltulip]

Joie chrome. I've not used it from birth as I got a carrycot in the bundle free but the pram seat can be used from birth. Can switch between parent and world facing really easily. Good sized basket.

[uglyface]

I wouldn’t worry about the carrycot - not all babies like them as they’re so big (for them) and open. By the time the baby is large enough to not feel tiny in it they usually like to be slightly inclined so they can see a bit of a the world!

[ilovethesmellofthesea]

I know a lot of people with the yo-yo - very small and light and good for travelling. It felt a bit to low and insubstantial to me but my husband and I are both tall so we might go for the uppababy Cruz. If you have a John Lewis nearby why don't you have a look around the baby floor? Recommendations are great but it really helps to push them and fold up and down etc.

[uglyface]

Also, prioritise a large shopping basket if you live in London and will be walking a lot. We drive everywhere as rural, so prioritised being able to attach car seat to the chassis, which I guess won’t be a factor for you?

[peachypetite]

@ilovethesmellofthesea the yo-yo isn’t suitable from birth without buying another attachment.
Seems a few of you like the oyster and it has good reviews.
Will definitely be visiting John Lewis but wanted to have some idea before just walking in and feeling totally confused!

[bestsquirrelinthewholehole]

I have had both the oyster, and the baby jogger, and the baby jogger was by far the best pram I'd ever had, and I had the double. Even that was light, folded easy, durable. I found the oyster kept flipping on curbs up and down. Which was a worry everytime. I do however love rural and the city was amazing for dog walks as well as city/town. The baby jogger was also far more compact on public transport, even the double!!! Was easy and quick to fold down of I needed to. Loved it. Was sad to sell it on. Plus I found on re-sale, the baby jogger kept its price, where as the oyster I really struggled to sell as thry are continually bringing out newer models.

[peachypetite]

@uglyface initially I did want a travel system but thinking about it, it seems easier to leave the car seat in the car and won’t be driving everywhere like you say I can walk to a huge supermarket etc so decent basket is a must.

[bestsquirrelinthewholehole]

Live rural obvs*

[uglyface]

@peachypetite Exactly - unless you’re like us, where everything but a small selection of village shops is a car journey away, you won’t need to worry about waking the baby up every time you need to nip to the shop or set off to meet a friend etc.

[Throughabushbackwards]

Another vote for the Baby jogger city mini. We used ours from birth (with a soft newborn cocoon) to 4 years. Light, robust and with the one handed fold perfect for riding on buses and storage.

[3isthemajicnumber]

Have a look at the Nina mixx and Nuba triv. Both suitable from birth with no carrycot. Nice and lightweight and a good price,

[Lockdownseperation]

Light weight look at the buggo bee.

Separate carrycot can be used as a Moses basket. With DD1 I could walk her to sleep and then carry it up stairs so I could nap in bed. By DD2 there was no opportunity for daytime naps for me due to DD1.

[Sunshinegirl82]

Mamas and papas have a new urban buggy out called the strada, I saw it in store the other day and it looked really nice. I think it would fulfil your criteria.

Bugaboo bee is another popular city choice but again I think you need a carrycot to make that suitable from birth.

Just one thing to say is that I actually found it really hard to strap DS2 into a non carrycot when he was really tiny! I ended up buying the carrycot option for our double pram.

I think the strada above has a carry cot option so you could always get that once baby is here if you decide you needed it if you went for that.

[Kpo58]

I really liked having a carrycot for when my DC were newborn. It seemed so much more comfortable than being strapped into the buggy. Also it doubled as the downstairs cot for when I was at home.

The mountain buggy is certainly worth a look at.

[mynameiscalypso]

@Kpo58

I really liked having a carrycot for when my DC were newborn. It seemed so much more comfortable than being strapped into the buggy. Also it doubled as the downstairs cot for when I was at home.

The mountain buggy is certainly worth a look at.

This is exactly what I felt about having a carrycot - we used it as a Moses basket too and it also meant we could snuggle DS with blankets etc. It felt a lot easier to control the temperature than when he was strapped in to the normal bit of the pram. FWIW, we have a Bugaboo Bee and it's great. Definitely the most popular type where I am. We also have a babyzen yoyo which is great for travelling but I think less good overall

[AHippoNamedBooBooButt]

Now I'll start by saying I haven't bought a pram for 5 years but I've had 2 bugaboo bee's (the first was 12years ago, sold as we were done then has a bonus baby so bought another) and honestly- best pram ever and ticks all your boxes. I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again

[Sunshinegirl82]

I looked at the yo-yo but it just didn't seemed that sturdy? Plus I didn't like that it didn't have a parent facing option after the initial stage. Both mine have liked being parent facing for a long time, DS2 is 16 months and still much happier parent facing.

I'd go bee over yo-yo personally!

[FoxtrotSkarloey]

I wouldn't rule out having at least a soft carry cot, even if you don't go for a full bassinet attachment. Prams suitable from birth don't tend to allow parent facing (although there are some exceptions) and the seats tend to be lower down. I'm sure they are perfectly safe and there will be people happy to use them with brand newborns, but personally I'd find that position far too exposed and vulnerable for a newborn without the protection of a carry cot, especially in a busy city setting.

[MobLife]

Bugaboo Bee with the soft cocoon

It's the only pram I've ever had and has seen me through 2 children from birth to toddlerhood. Perfect for London and you can easily carry it up a flight of stairs

[minnieok]

We used a reclining buggy from birth for Dd2 (double) and bought a car set head insert to make it cosier. I didn't drive so took buses and exh's car had a tiny boot so umbrella style was best. It was fine, very reasonable too. You can pay extortionate amounts for prams, so think about how much you are likely to use it (from 6 months a cheap buggy works well in London on the tube etc as they are super light).