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Niece harassed at work

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NavyKitchen · 07/08/2020 18:18

My 20 year old niece works for a large fast food chain and has just sent me this message. What do you think?

"So at work in feb this creepy lad who works with me hit mine and another girls ass and was making comments like ‘ I like the sound when I hit it’ and ‘stop teasing me’ to this other girl like bordering herself off to him and he’s already been done for making sexual comments to me saying I’d crush him in bed and he made a sexual comment to a 16 year old employee (he’s 20) and anyway he didn’t get sacked they just gave him a disciplinary and said if he does anything again he’s sacked. I’m not happy with the outcome and I’ve emailed again to say that I think it’s not been handled fairly/well etc because they took months to sort it out too. Am I being dramatic or not? I don’t like being on shift with him he’s a right creep and I asked for seperate shifts and manager said there’s nothing he can do about it"

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NavyKitchen · 07/08/2020 18:20

She emailed HR who didn't reply to her but bounced the issue back to her manager. The manager wants to sit them in a room together for the guy to apologise and for her to tell him how it made her feel.
They've been put on separate shifts this weeks but he refuses to guarantee this permanently.

Surely it's sexual assault?

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WorraLiberty · 07/08/2020 18:24

Yes it is but HR are not the Police.

If she wants him done for sexual assault, she'll have to phone the Police and report him.

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NavyKitchen · 07/08/2020 18:27

@WorraLiberty I understand that, I'm not sure she does want him criminally prosecuted but are work taking it seriously enough? If not, what can she do about it?

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NavyKitchen · 07/08/2020 18:32

Not sure if it makes any difference but the "crush him in bed" comment is absolutely a dig at her weight.

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WorraLiberty · 07/08/2020 18:33

Well they've given him a disciplinary but it's not clear whether this bloke has admitted or denied his behaviour.

If he's admitted it, I would expect him to be sacked.

If he hasn't and there's no proof and no police investigation, I don't see what else they can do.

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NavyKitchen · 07/08/2020 18:37

@WorraLiberty that's my thought too. I'm not sure whether she knows if he's admitted it or not. Do you know if she would be party to that information?
I also don't know if there were witnesses.

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bedjolly · 07/08/2020 18:40

Maybe try and get her to record what he is saying to her? Then she has solid evidence. Hope she feels better soon and doesn't have to deal with him.

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WorraLiberty · 07/08/2020 18:43

[quote NavyKitchen]@WorraLiberty that's my thought too. I'm not sure whether she knows if he's admitted it or not. Do you know if she would be party to that information?
I also don't know if there were witnesses.[/quote]
I really don't know I'm afraid.

Is she in a union by any chance? If so, that's something they could definitely answer.

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NavyKitchen · 07/08/2020 18:54

@WorraLiberty I'm pretty sure she's not in a union but I've suggested that she contact ACAS.

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NavyKitchen · 07/08/2020 18:55

@bedjolly I'm not sure how practical it would be. I don't think she's allowed her phone with her during shifts.

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bedjolly · 07/08/2020 19:07

She could have it in her pocket recording? No one would know, they said I couldn't have my phone at work but they would never know if it's in your pocket. It's not solid evidence if you can't see his face but it is backing up your statements especially if the date and time was recorded.

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Greenkit · 07/08/2020 19:13

I would report him to the police for sexual harassment, he would likely get a telling off or caution.

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Bemorechicken · 07/08/2020 19:16

[quote NavyKitchen]@WorraLiberty I understand that, I'm not sure she does want him criminally prosecuted but are work taking it seriously enough? If not, what can she do about it?[/quote]
Why not?

The quicker the police are involved the quicker he stop and HR will take it seriously.

My friend was raped by her boss. Miltary -they investigated it (internally) and "no case to answer" and "no enough evidence" and he resigned. Two years later the police investigated it -he's serving a very very long prison term right now.

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NavyKitchen · 07/08/2020 21:21

She's just replied to me - he admitted slapping her and admitted the horrible things he said. I can't believe they didn't sack him!