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I actually do think anti vaxxers have a point to a certain extent

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HairHereThere · 25/04/2019 21:19

Like with ANY medication/treatment there are risks
I feel the government are letting us down with such a one sided ‘vaccines are safe’ argument and how they never want to admit that vaccinations cause problems.
I think, I’m some cases they do. Not being able to claim under the vaccine damage scheme for under 2s gives the wrong message too it’s just too.......defensive ?


If they said actually there is a risk, it’s small but it’s there and we’re honest then had more of a balanced reasoning that yes there’s a risk but it’s a choice and presented it better that the scaremongering would die down

I’m theory I’m anti vax but I’ve vaccinated my children fully because I believe it’s a risk but a risk that is worth taking if that makes sense.
Some I spent to though are terrified and feel there’s such a brick wall up around balanced discussion and it makes things worse ?

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HairHereThere · 25/04/2019 21:19

Speak to not spent

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Twickerhun · 25/04/2019 21:20

The science shows that vaccines are safe. Check the facts.

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formerbabe · 25/04/2019 21:22

If they said actually there is a risk

A risk of what? ConfusedHmm

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ThePants999 · 25/04/2019 21:23

You're saying there's a risk. What do you think there's a risk OF?

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Mominatrix · 25/04/2019 21:23

Nope. Wrong.

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BillywilliamV · 25/04/2019 21:23

NO THEY DO NOT!!?

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Bigearringsbigsmile · 25/04/2019 21:23

I agree op

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Mokepon · 25/04/2019 21:24

If they actually said there's a risk
A risk of what? Adverse reaction? They do tell you that, as with all vaccinations.
Almost anything your child eats or comes into contact with poses a risk, albeit miniscule. No point worrying about that though?

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Canshopwillshop · 25/04/2019 21:24

I’m not sure what you e been reading/researching but I don’t think anyone/anywhere states that there is ‘no’ risk. The general understanding is exactly as you state - there is a risk but it’s very small and outweighs the benefits.

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MorelloKisses · 25/04/2019 21:24

Specifically what risk?

Infection in the vaccinator site? Recipient fainting afterwards?

I think these are minor, tolerable risks...?

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Langrish · 25/04/2019 21:25

They don’t.

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TheBulb · 25/04/2019 21:25

I’m struggling to understand what you mean. The scientific studies on vaccinations are perfectly factual. The only ‘unbalanced’ rhetoric is on websites frequented by frothing, under-informed anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists.

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eurochick · 25/04/2019 21:26

There are risks. This isn't hidden. There are also more frequently occurring risks of complications from the diseases they prevent. Most sane people can weigh that up and make the choice in favour of vaccinating their child.

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Canshopwillshop · 25/04/2019 21:26

To clarify - a risk of adverse effects.

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bellinisurge · 25/04/2019 21:26

It's too equivocal. It should ban unvaccinated children from state schools unless they have a physiological reason for not being vaccinated that is certified by a UK registered doctor.
For the sake of immunocompromised people like me.

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Lillygolightly · 25/04/2019 21:27

The minimal risk that might come with any vaccination does not outweigh the risk of catching measles, polio or other serious illnesses.

So no I don’t think anti vaxxers have a point! 🙄

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Spartak · 25/04/2019 21:28

I suppose it depends on your definition of a risk. I had the rubella vaccination at school.

Drama Llama Sarah was making a big fuss in the queue, where everyone was sat on stools - injections were in the science block. She made a big deal of "fainting" and ended up falling backwards and smacking her head off the window frame. Dozy cow needed stitches.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 25/04/2019 21:29

In my opinion, the risks from diseases like measles are far greater than those from vaccines (the occasional bad reaction etc).

110,000 people died of measles worldwide in 2017. And whilst most of these were in the third world, we are not immune in the UK - there were nearly 1,000 cases of measles in the UK, last year. As fewer people are vaccinating, herd immunity is being lowered, and this is causing an upswing in cases of measles.

Only tonight there was a story on the news about a baby girl who caught measles just before she was old enough for the jab, and she ended up in hospital, and nearly died. In the past, herd immunity would have protected her - anti-vaxxers have reduced it to the point where the benefits are severely decreased - and babies like this one are suffering.

Measles can kill, or can have severe consequences - encephalitis, eye and ear infections, pneumonia. If a pregnant woman who isn’t immune gets it, it can cause low birthweight or premature labour.

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HairHereThere · 25/04/2019 21:29

Any risks aside from the usual temp, sore injection site
Even if it was just to say some people may have some kind of reaction or maybe the government could fund some more research into vaccines just something to show a bit of understanding about the heightened anxiety around them currently as it all seems very ‘ they are safe. End of’ whereas maybe something like ‘we know people are concerned we will look more closely at things ‘ type of approach

Like I said I’m in theory partly anti vax and in practice pro vax but a huge amount of people I’m interacting with currently are anti vax and scared and there needs to be some kind of reassurance campaign I feel

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KMoKMo · 25/04/2019 21:30

They really don’t. HTH.

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lljkk · 25/04/2019 21:30

No choice is 100% safe, true.

I disagree about there being 'brick wall' around balanced discussion.
Plenty of people have entrenched kneejerk positions but most folk are willing to listen & discuss.

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MIdgebabe · 25/04/2019 21:30

THis web site

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/

Has links to vaccines and discusses the safety of each

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AutumnCrow · 25/04/2019 21:32

I think you sound like you're incubating a little bit of hypocrisy there, tbh. You've had your DC vaccinated, yet you might with this post put others off doing the best thing for their DC by reinforcing their doubts and beliefs.

Have you not heard of the current measles situation?

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Prequelle · 25/04/2019 21:32

Fucking hell how much research do people need. There have been hundreds and hundreds of worldwide studies for vaccines

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Tiptopj · 25/04/2019 21:32

It was on the news this morning that causes of measles have quadrupled in the last year- surely that's the most serious risk

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