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am i being a CF? (work related)(59 Posts)
I want you all to tell me if I am being a CF!
I work full time at the minute, have a partner and a son.
Son is currently at nursery full time but have been thinking ahead to when he goes to school and school holidays etc.
Planning to take a couple of weeks off as a family as we do now anyway, but the rest I am unsure what to do.
I was wondering if I could request I work from home for some of the days in those weeks, maybe work a Tuesday and a Thursday or similar or whatever.
My job could be easily done in my home, though I might have to pop in maybe once on a day that I wasn't supposed to be here if some paperwork needed urgently was required or whatever. (its not a massive company and my job is somewhat specialist in that only 1 other person could take over properly but obviously they have holidays and other commitments too!)
I would obviously be watching my 4 year old whilst at home but i'm entirely confident I could get all my work done either whilst doing this of after he was in bed etc. I know my job inside out and could reply to emails initially on my phone etc and do the more complicated bits on a night.
in my head this is a great idea, however, is it just a bit cheeky? nobody else works from home except the directors who I assume do as they please! but then nobody elses job could really be done from home where as mine easily could?
would you tell me to eff off and pay for childcare like everyone else has to? (I could btw and probably will for some of the holidays because I don't want to spend 6 solid weeks off! but I was thinking of other solutions!)
You can definitely ask to work from home. However, you can’t work from home and also look after a child at the same time.
I think it's unlikely an employer is going to accept you are working from home to the same standard as in the office when you are solely and fully responsible for a child at the same time. I don't think you should ask, particularly if you work with other parents. Also, how much fun is your DS going to be having stuck in a house with you while you are working?
Why not ask for unpaid leave for part of the holidays if you are worried your annual leave won't stretch?
It's unfortunate but most parents do have to resort to childcare and holiday clubs for at least part of the holiday and the children do usually enjoy them.
My job can be done entirely from home. I get approx 6% of it done with a child in the house!
And that “oh I’ll just finish that when they’re in bed”...? No, never happens, because by the time I’ve wrestled with dinner, baths and their bedtime, I’m ready for my own!
You essentially need to ask if you can work in the evenings during the school holidays. Maybe you could condense your other days so you do slightly longer in the office a few days and then work from 6-10pm (assuming you have a partner around to takeover).
you can’t work from home and also look after a child at the same time.
This. It’s not fair on your son, your co-workers, or yourself really. Holiday clubs can be great fun for kids!
I would think that was CF land, sorry.
If you do your job effectively, your 4 year old will be doing what? Sitting at home having to self entertain? That sounds pretty crap for a 4 year old and he would probably have more fun at some kind of childcare.
If you keep your kid entertained & engaged, then you would struggle to put in a solid 7 hours (min) a day for work.
What about your OH? Can the two of you do some condensed hours and each have a day at home each week?
Or just suck it up and pay for childcare (if you can find it).
It would be the kind of solution I'd be willing to think about as a short-term solution for someone who was stuck with childcare, not a planned way to work.
I'm not someone who is big on "presenteeism" but I honestly don't see how you can really focus on work AND care for a young child for hours at a time.
You can ask to work from home but you’ll still need childcare.
You can’t look after a four year old and work at the same time as your standard set up
You can ask but you cannot look after a child AND work from home, it doesn't happen sorry. I have an almost 6 yo, when I went back to work I went down to 4 days a week, I work 1 of those 4 days from home just so I get housework done (and I mean putting the washing in the machine etc), that in itself is a juggle some weeks if I am busy at work, since dd started school I did try one holidays to keep her home on my WFH day - nightmare, worst mistake I made, it is impossible to get your work done. You need to be realistic, we now split the school holidays between us, grandparents help and the rest of the time she goes to the school holiday club - it is just one of those things I am afraid, we take one holiday a year together but that is it. At the beginning of each years holiday allowance I sit down and work out the entire school holiday/care plan for the year - I do leave 5 days for emergencies - I now have no time off purely for me (unless I am sick)
Also if I was one of your colleagues who didn't have this opportunity I would be pretty resentful...
you're right I have no idea whether they'd say yes.
buster I wouldn't be continuously working, so I would be able to look after him. Like I say a lot of it is emails etc which I could do anywhere.
The rest I could get done in an evening, so essentially everything I could do in a day in the office I could do in a day at home but within a different timeframe iyswim.
i think my big thing about holiday clubs is that i often went to them as a child and absolutely hated it. i remember spending a birthday at one and it still makes me feel sick to this day. (though i cannot fault my mother for anything else - i had a good childhood but i hated her for making me go that day!!)
my annual leave def wont stretch i only get 4 weeks and bank hols.
I work from home. For our own business. I pay for childcare or work at night because it's impossible to concentrate long enough to get stuff done when 4 year old DS is off nursery/school. I paid for extra hours today so I could get up to date with everything before he breaks up on friday.
If I desperately need to get something done I can usually bride him with half an hour on his tablet or paw patrol or something. But even then it's hit and miss.
I couldn't do a paid job and look after him though.
budget for holiday club. but some even full time ones do rubbish hours like 9 til 3. you could ask to wfh around those hrs and make up in the evening.
none of my colleagues have small children (well none that work here now do!)
OP, also be aware that your manager may need you to be contactable during set hours - it's fine saying you can send emails at 8pm but if that's in reply to a message someone sent you at 2pm, and who isn't now there to receive your reply, you're just working in a vacuum. Where I work there was an opportunity to do extra hours; they say full time staff couldn't apply, and work in the evenings, as they needed the post holder to be around and contactable in the day if colleagues have questions. You need to think wider than "can I do x and y and z at night".
I would be able to reply to most things id say within an hour or whatever which is about what i do in the office.
I am expecting them to say no if i even ask but wanted to gage whether it was something anyone would even ask to do!
Nope. And I don't think you should even ask, it would raise eyebrows and question marks over your commitment to the job.
I don't think it's as simple as you say in terms of doing the work either and catching up in evenings never works.
People do ask to do this quite a lot. But the answer is normally no did anything other than a one off for a sick child etc.
Most homeworking policies also say that you can't work from home while doing childcare.
Parental leave maybe?
I have a 13 year old and I work from home very occasionally when he is here, it's not easy at all! In the holidays I go to the office in the evening when my husband gets home. There is no way you could do a 7/8 hour day with a child at home, I know you say emails can be done anywhere but they still, I presume need your full attention while you deal with them?
I work in HR and we get the odd CF that wants to ‘work’ and provide childcare at the same time. It’s never been agreed.
I can’t understand how anybody thinks a business can be run effectively with staff that do their work around childcare.
I received one request where somebody proposed working around her babies nap times and she would pick up the rest in the evening she said she would also have her relative ‘pop in’ some days to watch the baby for ‘an hour or so’ if they could.
I would think you were a CF and deluded if you requested your proposed hours.
To be honest it sounds as if you don't really need FT hours to do your job. Sounds as if it could be done by someone PT if it is so easily done while caring for a 4year old. Maybe consider this before asking.
you can’t work from home and also look after a child at the same time.
and * i remember spending a birthday at one and it still makes me feel sick to this day.* really?
The company that I work for allows flexible working but you are not allowed to work from home if you are the only adult and there are under 8 year olds (I think , it may be 10, not sure) in the house.
I would never ask this and would never approve it for someone in my team. Sorry if it's already been mentioned but could you look at childminders? That's what I used to do in holidays
Definitely CF territory. If you're at home with a 4 yo you aren't working from home. Yes you might be able to answer emails but no way are you giving the same attention you would if you were in the office, and as much as you think you will get it done in the evening, you won't.
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