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I'm a midwife who works in abortion care. AMA

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GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 19:58:58

Go ahead. I'll try and answer everything the best way I can. Sorry if this is boring (I love my job and can go on about it a bit.)!

Biancadelrioisback Tue 23-Apr-19 20:00:05

What made you choose this field?

Fairylea Tue 23-Apr-19 20:01:23

Do you ever judge people, even though you’re not supposed to? I think I’d find it very hard to be impartial.

Echobelly Tue 23-Apr-19 20:02:40

What do you think is the biggest myth about experiencing an abortion?

NotSoThinLizzy Tue 23-Apr-19 20:03:01

Following

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:04:44

@Biancadelrioisback when I was a student I was placed on a ward which did a lot of them and I found it really interesting. I decided I wanted to persue it once I'd qualified. The delivery suite I worked at didn't give me any opportunity to do so so I looked elsewhere and found this job. I love supporting women, hopefully making a really shit day slightly less shit.

DustOffYourHighestHopes Tue 23-Apr-19 20:04:51

Thank you thank you thank you to you and your colleagues. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

What you did was life changing for me, and the way you did it restored my faith in humanity and in myself.

BeeFarseer Tue 23-Apr-19 20:04:54

Thank you for the work you do.

I have had an abortion for medical reasons and the care from the midwives was exemplary.

Do you see a mixture of reasons (can't think of a better way of putting that!) from just not wanting to continue with a pregnancy, and women who need abortions for medical reasons?

Katterinaballerina Tue 23-Apr-19 20:05:59

No questions, just a big thank you thanks. Having lovely, capable, professionals around makes a difficult experience much more bearable.

JasperSIn Tue 23-Apr-19 20:06:13

How do you feel when you get the same women coming in over and over?

InceyWinceyette Tue 23-Apr-19 20:06:19

Thank you for what you do, OP.

Has your job made you think that a termination should be easier to arrange / guidelines and laws relaxed? Or made more restrictive?

stucknoue Tue 23-Apr-19 20:07:26

It's an area of medicine that don't get enough praise. I had a great midwife perform mine (she also delivered my dd 2 years prior) and her compassion meant a lot to me. Thank you and to all those working in this field

LemonInterceptor Tue 23-Apr-19 20:07:30

What is the latest term abortion you've been involved in the care of? (Hope that's the correct phrase.)

Soubriquet Tue 23-Apr-19 20:07:53

How to do you manage to support a woman who really doesn’t want an abortion, but a scan has shown a major defect and she has no choice?
Especially when it’s over 20 weeks

Do you ever go home and sometimes have a good cry?

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:08:05

@Fairylea generally definitely not. Definitely not in the normal ways. I don't feel judgement when women we've seen before come back, or anything like that.

I'd say I've been surprised how many women cheat on their partners. I don't think I judge them, they usually are having a really awful time at home or something. it's just, as a midwife you only experience the happy times and it never crossed my mind that some of the dads might not really be the dads.

Maybe the ones I struggle with are when people say "I'm very very anti abortion, there's no excuse for it. But in my case...."

Thatsnotmyotter Tue 23-Apr-19 20:08:07

Do you work for someone like BPAS/Marie Stopes? What is the pay like? (Community midwife considering jumping ship)

LemonInterceptor Tue 23-Apr-19 20:08:23

Also, thank you for doing this job.

FuzzyLilac Tue 23-Apr-19 20:08:39

No question just wanted to say thank you.

It was a kind women like you who took very good care of me when I was alone and at my most vulnerable. flowers

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:08:47

@Echobelly probably the biggest myth is that is legal in England!

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:10:17

@BeeFarseer definitely a mixture of reasons. Massively! Mainly it's just the wrong time, but lots of medical reasons etc too. Plus the horrible ones occasionally (rape etc)

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:11:49

@JasperSIn depends who it is! Some of them I'm glad to see because they're lovely (like a regular in a pub I guess!). Usually I feel that I failed them last time in my contraceptive counselling. I don't get cross with them I don't think.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:13:51

@InceyWinceyette Imo the law should be mega relaxed. I don't think there should be time limits, and I don't think women should HAVE to explain why or justify themselves. Obviously there would still be some regulation but there should always be the option for an abortion if its needed or wanted.

LemonInterceptor Tue 23-Apr-19 20:15:18

Imo the law should be mega relaxed. I don't think there should be time limits, and I don't think women should HAVE to explain why or justify themselves. Obviously there would still be some regulation but there should always be the option for an abortion if its needed or wanted

Agree 100%

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:15:20

@LemonInterceptor we do right up to 24 weeks. I've been involved in that (not the procedure myself but the booking and consultation etc). As a student it was 34 weeks but it was for medical reasons and was really really hard.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:17:01

@Soubriquet I definitely have had a good cry before. I try and be brave to women but I have definitely burst into tears in front of them before when they've talked to me about their reasons. Embarrassing.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:18:41

@Thatsnotmyotter pm me! It's definitely the best job in the world and I would 100% recommend it to any midwife or nurse who's in the NHS currently. I love it so so so so much. Pay is basically similar to agenda for change.

LemonInterceptor Tue 23-Apr-19 20:18:43

Thanks for answering. Do you think later term abortion would be less common if it was easier to get an earlier one? Or are they so overwhelmingly for medical reasons that it would make no real difference? (I'm not against late term abortions at all btw, just curious!)

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:20:10

Thank you for all the thanks messages! It really means a lot. Honestly, I very regularly fall a little bit in love with the women I look after. Most days there's one woman who I feel I've really bonded with and I spend most of my days laughing with women (which I was very surprised about).

Sizeofalentil Tue 23-Apr-19 20:21:06

You are a good person.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:21:56

@LemonInterceptor they're really so rare that I'm not sure if would make much of a difference. Most women I see are about 4-7 weeks. The ones I've seen where we've had to turn them away because they're over 24 weeks have been people who didn't know they were pregnant or where terrible things have happened in their lives which has changed their circumstances.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:23:04

@Sizeofalentil not too sure about that. I'm a right cow sometimes!

SailorJerry13 Tue 23-Apr-19 20:24:42

I had an abortion last year and the nurse was extremely harsh and matronly, until she found out I had PTSD from giving birth the first time and she was super kind.

Also the second nurse I saw was just so friendly and gentle with me it actually healed a lot of wounds.

So Thankyou for doing this job and for treating very scared vulnerable women who never ever expected to be in the situation they are in. flowers

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:28:33

@SailorJerry13 I'm sorry she started off being harsh. That's not cool at all, I'd be annoyed if my colleagues were like that i don't think there's a place for it where we work. Also sorry you've got ptsd and then had to go through that. Glad it was overall a reasonable experience.

AtSea1979 Tue 23-Apr-19 20:33:52

When you see the foetus sat next in the bucket do you ever get overwhelmed or do you treat it like any other body bits?

yesyesyep Tue 23-Apr-19 20:37:28

You say rules should be relaxed, and it sounds like you have a lot of compassion in your job. You said you don't think there should be a time limit, does that mean you would welcome an abortion right up to full term?

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:40:13

@AtSea1979 it's definitely overwhelming sometimes. Also, doing the later scans sometimes is tough. When I first started in the job I was worried I'd made a terrible mistake and wasn't sure if I'd be able to cope. The first scan I ever did was in 20 week twins.

But it's not about me, I try and concentrate on the woman and what this means to her. I definitely don't think of them as body bits, I'd treat them all with respect.

JasperSIn Tue 23-Apr-19 20:41:04

I’m confused now, I thought we had abortion up to full term in England?!

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:43:43

@yesyesyep yes definitely, I don't think there should be a limit. Its very very rare that women ask but it's always a very compelling reason. The women who I've met in the situations of it had been up to me they'd have been able to have treatment.

For example... (some details changed for obvious reasons). One woman was in a horrible abusive relationship, he'd come to every appointment with her so she'd never been able to ask anyone for help. She was petrified that he was going to kill her.

Another, a woman in a happy relationship found out at 33 weeks her husband had been sexually abusing her 12 year old son.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:45:30

@JasperSIn we have it in exceptional circumstances but it's very very rare that 2 drs would agree to it. Most hospitals don't really do much abortion so they refer women to charities like Marie stopes or bpas, and they can't do over 24 weeks.

hoponby Tue 23-Apr-19 20:52:07

Hi OP!

I've just got a job as a client care co-originator for BPAS. Not sure if you have them where you work?

I'm being given full training. I can then help women make decisions, giving informed info and a type of 'counselling'. I can also check blood results, swabs, etc.

I'm hoping to go to uni to train as a midwife next year. Do you think my job at BPAS will help my application?

I'm currently doing my Access course and my mentor has said not to mention working for BPAS whilst interviewing for midwifery, in case anyone thinks I'm out to get rid of wanted pregnancies with a hidden agenda hmm

NicksWife08 Tue 23-Apr-19 20:53:39

Is anything about the fetus ever noted anywhere when it's a surgical abortion?
I think you're wonderful people and from experience some of the kindest, empathetic nurses I've ever met.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:54:01

@hoponby what the hell! Who the fuck would do that?? Definitely definitely mention it. It shows that you can work with women and support them. If the uni discount you because of it then they must be a shit uni...! Pm me if you like. X

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 20:56:35

@NicksWife08 not exactly sure what you mean. Do you mean sex etc? No, we wouldn't do that, though sometimes they may be sent for testing on certain circumstances. It's documented that it's complete etc.

Waitingforinspo Tue 23-Apr-19 21:03:08

Do you openly tell people what you do?
I have considered working in this field (also a midwife) but whenever I've mentioned it in conversation people look horrified. I've looked after women having TOP for medical reasons and feel I made a positive difference to those families.

Spideryplant Tue 23-Apr-19 21:04:46

Do all abortion clinics insist that you have a scan before going ahead?

(I've been told Marie Stopes do)

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 21:06:47

@Waitingforinspo it's so hard! When I first got the job I was open about it and so excited but then I lost a good friend over it because she was disgusted about it and suddenly started posted loads of anti choice stuff all over fb. She was absolutely vile. To be honest, in my little pro choice bubble I hadn't thought that people i liked would have such different opinions to me.

Now, I normally either say I'm a midwife or that I work in sexual health. Often that's enough but then people do ask more and more questions and I have to come clean.

LucyInTheSkyy Tue 23-Apr-19 21:08:22

How old was the oldest patient?

My mums best friends sisters cousin blah blah- fell naturally pregnant at 54. She thought she had ovarian cancer symptoms and was granted a termination as she had some health issues and there was no way she wanted any more children (2 very grown up sons). She was on a very slow menopause and believed she was infertile. I think the odds are in the millions of falling, but she did. She was fine at the time but we think she was / is affected by it many years on.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 21:09:32

@Spideryplant yes, it's absolutely vital because we need to 1. Know that the client is pregnant and 2. That the pregnancy isn't ectopic or there's any reason they wouldn't be suitable for treatment. We don't normally show people the scan though or tell them much info unless they want to see. We're very descreet (i hope).

MoseShrute Tue 23-Apr-19 21:10:27

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 21:11:00

@LucyInTheSkyy hmmmm. I'm sure I've seen women in their 50s. Definitely loads in their 40s. Much more over 40s than under 20s!

Spideryplant Tue 23-Apr-19 21:13:57

Thank you

hellenbackagen Tue 23-Apr-19 21:16:15

I had
To have a tfmr, wish my midwife had been like you. First one was older and lovely but shift changed and then I felt like a number taking up a bed. Was an awful experience and the most undignified thing ever. I got told off because I didn't want to use the commode and of course it happened when I went to the loo. Baby was stuck. I had horrible care and dried and cried about it after. Placenta was
Picked out with tweezers. I felt like a lump of meat. And they forgot I was there so no meal was ordered for me .
It was shit.

happychange Tue 23-Apr-19 21:16:40

What's the longest gestation period you have aborted? How was that like?

My friend was offered an abortion at 33 weeks as her DD had a congenital disorder that was only diagnosed at 33 weeks. She couldn't go ahead with it and I don't blame her, but wonder if there's people who do

Tough decision either way

hellenbackagen Tue 23-Apr-19 21:18:32

The laughable thing is I got told to
Go for medical management over surgical because it may harm chance if future pregnancy.
I was 44. Baby had chromosome issue.

I never fell pg again anyway. I should have had surgical.

Racerback Tue 23-Apr-19 21:20:26

Thank you, OP. flowers

FenellaMaxwell Tue 23-Apr-19 21:23:25

No questions. Just thank you.

EustaciaPieface Tue 23-Apr-19 21:26:10

I had an abortion 27 years ago as a teenager. I was terrified and just couldn’t believe how lovely all the staff were. What you do is so important. Thank you to you and everyone else who works in this area.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 21:30:07

@hellenbackagen that's so shit. I'm sorry. I'd definitely choose surgery if I had the option I think. I'm not sure though. I've had lots of miscarriages so can talk with confidence about the various treatments which apply to most women (under 10 weeks) because I've tried them all.

parrotfashionista Tue 23-Apr-19 21:37:17

Have you ever done selective reductions in a multiple pregnancy?

clairethewitch70 Tue 23-Apr-19 21:37:42

I am pro choice. Thank you for doing your work compassionately.

StylishMummy Tue 23-Apr-19 21:37:50

What % of women change their mind and continue with the pregnancy and what do you think is the reason for that?

Do you see people who have had 3 or more abortions regularly? I've read some articles that suggest it's now viewed as a form of contraception but like to think this is BS

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 21:40:19

@parrotfashionista no we don't do that where I am. That would be more specialist I think.

Wilbs77 Tue 23-Apr-19 21:40:36

@hellenbackagen does medical management effect future pregnancy? I had a MM last summer and had medical management, wasn't offered anything else, then had another miscarriage in December, I feel a bit stupid that I didn't know I had options.

ControversialFerret Tue 23-Apr-19 21:42:43

Do you have any issues with pro-life protesters where you work?

Thank you for doing what you do. All women should have access to safe and legal abortion, should they need it.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 21:45:22

@StylishMummy I'm not too sure about %. It definitely happens but I often predict people don't have treatment with us and I'm always bloody wrong.

Yes, definitely see women like that. I wouldn't say they use it as contraception, but it's certainly a form of birth control. I always think that most women are fertile for about 40 years, assuming we have regular sex and use the common contraceptives (the pill/condoms) it's crazy to assume we'll never slip up. They all have high failure rates. Usually there is a back story to it (but not always).

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 21:49:31

@ControversialFerret not often at my exact location but yes we do as a whole. We get sent dodgy things via post too. We've got buffer zones coming in now though!

FurrySlipperBoots Tue 23-Apr-19 22:00:34

Are later-term fetuses just seen as medical waste, or are they treated as (you would hope!) a much-wanted stillborn infant of the same gestation would be? For example are they washed/talked to/wrapped and treated with respect or are they simply quickly and wordlessly disposed of as through they were a tumor or amputated body part?

TooBusyHavingFun Tue 23-Apr-19 22:03:36

Are later-term fetuses just seen as medical waste, or are they treated as (you would hope!) a much-wanted stillborn infant of the same gestation would be? For example are they washed/talked to/wrapped and treated with respect or are they simply quickly and wordlessly disposed of as through they were a tumor or amputated body part?

^This is my question as well

hellenbackagen Tue 23-Apr-19 22:15:57

Wilbs

No - I was told to have medical because I wanted to try again and was told that 1) it was less risky and my chances would be better and b) it was kinder.
Kinder to who I wonder now. I wonder if medical costs less than surgical. I'm betting that has something to do with it.

I felt and still feel I was let down. I ended up itch horrific pid and one siremit was poking about up there with tweezers.
I tried for another pg and have now given up as I'm too old at 47.
My last pregnancy holds only terrible traumatic memories for me.

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 22:19:49

Hmm difficult question. without going into too much detail, it wouldn't be possible to do that after surgical abortion. But each baby is kept separately (they're not all bundled in a big bag and chucked in the bin). They're kept on site for a certain period and then taken away in a specific collection. I'm not exactly sure after late medical abortion what we do as I've not been involved. Every woman is given the option to take their baby if they want to have their own burial (but it's rare).

DreamingofSunshine Tue 23-Apr-19 22:21:24

Thank you for your role in ensuring women in this situation are treated with dignity and respect.

How many abortions are due to contraceptive failure or incorrect use? Do you think we need any changes to sex Ed?

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 22:21:42

@hellenbackagen was this in the NHS? How many weeks were you? The risks are very different. It might be worth getting your notes and having a debrief with someone/making a complaint. It sounds bloody terrible.

BayandBlonde Tue 23-Apr-19 22:24:04

About 25 years ago I had a surgical termination.

I hadn't even properly come around from the GA when the nurse stuck a needle in my arm and said 'you won't get pregnant again'....I was groggy but those words have stuck.

It was the depo contraceptive, I didn't challenge it at the time and haven't raised it again since.

Please tell me giving contraceptives without consent still doesn't go on??

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 22:24:57

@DreamingofSunshine changes to sex Ed! Yes yes yes! Yes yes. So much. Needs to be done by specialist people, not teachers. Need more focus on long acting contraception like the implant /coil/injection as well as condoms. Needs more focus on relationships, respect, consent etc etc.

I reckon 80% of the women I see day they weren't using contraception (but lots of them actually were using things like fertility awareness, withdrawal, condoms).

Downthecanal Tue 23-Apr-19 22:26:37

helen I’m sorry for your experience flowers

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 22:26:52

@BayandBlonde Jesus! Not on my watch. Not where I work. We fully counsel clients and they'd normally sign something if we were stabbing them. That's terrible! (also, if she wanted to do it by stealth she could have done it whilst you were asleep, waiting till you woke up sounds evil). I bloody hate depo.

Sagradafamiliar Tue 23-Apr-19 22:32:48

Can women choose to see the screen when they have the scan or is there a policy to keep it turned away?
Thank you.

SuckingOnDiesel Tue 23-Apr-19 22:34:45

Why do you hate the depo, out of interest? Considering it myself.

Agree with the other posters, I was treated with the upmost respect when I went through it. And you in particular sound especially lovely. flowers

FrankiesKnuckle Tue 23-Apr-19 22:34:57

I had a TOP in 1993. I was 17 years old. I was treated appallingly.

From the anesthetist who told me I looked like a very frightened little girl to the nurse who ignored my cries for help - coming around from the GA I had lower abdo pain and I thought I was going to soil myself. She told me it was 'just how you feel after' and to go back to sleep.
I crawled on my hands and knees to the toilet where I birthed a huge turd (I was right!) whilst I struggled with the post op sanitary towel that was tied around my waist.
I had paid for my own room yet was put in a shared room with a woman who's partner and baby (I guess just around 1) came to visit. I mean, really?

Awful, awful experience - not for one moment am I ashamed of the termination or my decision, I'm very open about it. But the staff were just awful.

I wish you had been around then OP, you sound lovely and caring.

BayandBlonde Tue 23-Apr-19 22:37:18

@GlitteryPoopooplop I was 18 at the time and 16 weeks, I don't even recall having the scan. Is it possible they did it while I was under?

The aftercare was pretty much non existent, I came around, they fed me, I called my lift and they sent me home. It was very matter of fact. I didn't have any follow up appointments.

I wish I had a midwife like yourself

12pinkchairs Tue 23-Apr-19 22:39:23

This is so interesting OP, thank you

ImTheRealHFella Tue 23-Apr-19 22:40:47

Sending hugs and flowers of appreciation for what you do.

I had to have a TFMR and I tried to brave it out. I had the loveliest and most gentle care and you are all fabulous people.

I took the ante natal midwife who took my through the worst month of my life with compassion and understanding a rose to plant as a thank you when I left the hospital with the rainbow baby we waited so long for.

Your colleagues made the most frightening, guilt inducing time of my life more bearable and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

hellenbackagen Tue 23-Apr-19 22:42:17

Thanks op
Yes it was nhs. 2016.. I was 15 weeks . Cvs confirmed baby girl (whom I named Rosie) had a chromosome disorder.

She had a funeral and for that I'm very grateful to the nhs. But my care was awful. I didn't complain. I felt like I deserved it for what I was doing. Maybe now I'd have made different choices.

barryfromclareisfit Tue 23-Apr-19 22:42:49

OP, please continue to love them. They need love so much when they find themselves needing to terminate a pregnancy.

hellenbackagen Tue 23-Apr-19 22:47:59

I was 13 weeks when I found out. I was still told I was too far for surgical which I found out later was not true. I found a Marie stopes who would do surgical but got talked out of it by a midwife who said medical management was kinder for the baby .
Now I'm not sure that was true. It was a long day. I threw up all day and had to shit in a bowl while dp sat next to me. Medical management. Never ever again would I do that . It was degrading and cruel.The one time I refused to use the commode she came. And my telling off began.
It was shit.

InglouriousBasterd Tue 23-Apr-19 22:56:10

BayandBlonde - my mum was a midwife many moons ago and said that depo was often given, unknowingly, to women who had many kids and didn’t use contraception or post termination. Awful.

InglouriousBasterd Tue 23-Apr-19 22:56:34

OP - thank you for what you do.

Mummatotwoxo Tue 23-Apr-19 23:00:07

What's the youngest girl you've seen?

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 23:08:43

@Sagradafamiliar yes they can totally see the screen. Their choice (lots of women do).

@SuckingOnDiesel I personally had a ton of side effects and didn't enjoy it. Just personal preference really!

@Mummatotwoxo I think it's 12.

@hellenbackagen you could still complain. Rosie is a beautiful name. I love it.

@BayandBlonde I doubt they'd scan you when under, just in case. But you never know!

GlitteryPoopooplop Tue 23-Apr-19 23:09:42

@FrankiesKnuckle God, these stories are so scary. I really hope I've never made anyone feel like this. Xxx

hellenbackagen Tue 23-Apr-19 23:11:25

Glittery
💐 x

FamilyReferee Tue 23-Apr-19 23:18:17

Many, many, many years ago, when I was barely out of my teens, I had a TOP. The nurses at the time were very kind. Back then the only choice was surgical, so I had that done. I was asked repeatedly if I was sure, between when I was admitted, and when I went under. And as I went under, I cried quite a lot. The nurses were lovely, and reassured me all the way along, and after. Thank you for caring for women, as someone once cared for me. It makes such a difference to what is already a shit situation.

I was so scared of being judged, especially as I'd already had a delay, when the gp said they'd refer me, but didn't, and I ended up about four weeks further pregnant than I should have been. I had to go to another gp to get the referral. Even now, I worry about being judged, and barely anyone knows, even all these years later.

I don't regret having my termination, but I regret having to make that choice. I am totally pro-choice. Women need nurses like you. Thank you.

HappybutsometimesGrouchy Tue 23-Apr-19 23:34:24

What do you think about the non-existence of abortion rights for women in NI? Do you ever get women who have travelled over from NI seeking abortions?

hoponby Wed 24-Apr-19 08:02:35

Hi OP, tried to PM but can't seem to find the option to on the app? Would you kindly pm so I can click on the email link i would get to notify me?

A personal further back asked if the foetus was treated differently to other waste products. You said it was indeed, and treated with respect.

Without sounding awful, why is this? We shouldn't really be viewing it as a 'baby', should we?

GlitteryPoopooplop Wed 24-Apr-19 08:24:12

@hoponby I disagree. They are babies, women know it, we know it. To say they're not would be disingenuous, and maybe a bit patronising to women. I'm not saying we hug and kiss each baby. We just don't lob them in the bin along with other clinical waste.

SailorJerry13 Wed 24-Apr-19 08:31:49

If someone wants an abortion and during the scan you see it would be a twin pregnancy - do you have to tell them?

GlitteryPoopooplop Wed 24-Apr-19 08:33:48

@SailorJerry13 great question! We ask before each scan "do you want to see? Do you want to know if there's more than one?"

jackparlabane Wed 24-Apr-19 08:48:07

Thank you for doing your job. My dear cousin had an abortion at 30 weeks - total anencephaly - and said the kindness of the staff made a horrible time easier.

Do you or your clinic offer a range of contraception at the same time? Or do you have to point to other services? I ask because locally services have been cut so much that it's almost impossible to get a coil or implant - it took me 4 months to get an appointment for a month later.

Highfivemum Wed 24-Apr-19 09:06:42

Have you ever had anyone change their mind at the last minute ?
P.s thank you for being there for woman who need you at a hard time in their lives.

GlitteryPoopooplop Wed 24-Apr-19 09:07:09

@jackparlabane yes we offer them all. I'm really really passionate about it and the amount of women we see who get pregnant in the time it takes an appointment for a coil is staggering. Some GPs seem to be so disinterested in contraception and it would save the NHS so much money if they funded it better!

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