Blanket Number 6, please help [sad]

(825 Posts)
purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 06:53:34

Following on from the blanket for Magic8 which is under construction, we'd like to offer one to Whatevertheweather who has recently lost her baby daughter.

I know there is already an army of knitters and crocheters and donors out there; would anyone be able to join us?

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs Wed 31-Aug-11 07:11:53

I'll send money, I can't knit. Please let me know where it is to go.

Lorelai Wed 31-Aug-11 07:22:59

I can knit, is someone going to be organising matching donors with knitters?

DutchOma Wed 31-Aug-11 07:23:18

I can knit 3 squares out of any ball of wool that anybody would care to send me.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 07:32:18

We need a volunteer to match up donors with crafters, please. I'm happy to do the construction again (unless someone else wants a turn??), but don't have the skills to take on spreadsheets etc sad

DutchOma Wed 31-Aug-11 07:35:03

I don't know if I can do spreadsheets, but I think I could probably do it on a piece of pare away from the computer, if that is any help?

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 07:36:55

Card files worked for centuries before some bastard one invented computers, Oma - thank you [star]

Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 07:38:00

Happy to join in again - happy to buy wool for someone. Is there enough of the right sort of wool left in the country, or should we switch to a different one? perhaps the baby one this time, or not?

SoupDragon Wed 31-Aug-11 07:50:49

I thought this when reading the thread.

I'm up for helping again.

CoffeeIsMyFriend Wed 31-Aug-11 07:51:54

happy to send some money to someone. Not so good at the knitting part and crochet is beyond my skills.

rubycon Wed 31-Aug-11 07:54:03

I'll knit again.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 07:57:40

If we use the same wool, I can hold back any spare plain ones from Magic's three.

I can't believe there are so many volunteers so fast [star]

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 08:00:12

I'm in.

Oma, I'm PMing you.

Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 08:01:00

That's true, pidjin , hadn't thought of that - was just thinking about Lydia running out of stock and the other shops slowing down in their deliveries, so was a bit concerned about supply!
(have PMd you as well, btw, just in case you haven't noticed smile)

LawrieMarlow Wed 31-Aug-11 08:02:30

I am happy to do one or more squares - have enough wool left over from magic8's one as well so am happy for any squares I send to be split between blankets as appropriate.

trumpton Wed 31-Aug-11 08:02:53

I will do 3 squares , < wish I didn't need to.> But proud and honoured to be a part of MN at it's best. So sorry for Whatevertheweather and the loss of her daughter.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 08:04:04

Pidj, has anyone contacted WhatEverTheWeather yet?

posterofawolef Wed 31-Aug-11 08:14:27

I'm up for it again. So sad sad

faverolles Wed 31-Aug-11 08:18:02

I can send wool. If someone could let me know colours and type.
Or I can send money if that makes it easier.

ComeWhineWithMe Wed 31-Aug-11 08:18:05

I will donate wool/funds.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 08:21:52

Thumby you have pm

ComeWhine contacted wtw last night to get the go ahead before I started the thread

If everyone keeps their spare wool we can swap it round a bit to vary colours? And maybe lydia has a wholesaler she could contact - would someone be able to pm her for me? I'm stuck at work til 8 and I'll be away camping from thursday evening

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 08:23:16

I'll get onto that now, Pidj.

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs Wed 31-Aug-11 08:23:45

I will PM Lydia and get her to contact you if that's OK.

SoupDragon Wed 31-Aug-11 08:24:36

Do you think it woud be possible to get a baby sized blanket out to her before Erin's funeral? I am happy to make a replacement bear square for Magic8's blanket.

I have just ordered some wool from Cucumberpatch explaining the situation and asking for a prompt dispatch.

Tonksforthememories Wed 31-Aug-11 08:28:14

I'll donate wool if someone can match me with a crafter.

lia66 Wed 31-Aug-11 08:31:05

Oh I read this last night but didn't have the words then. Will def contribute. so sad.

RIP little Erin. xxx

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 08:33:18

We're just getting our heads together regarding the organising and will post as soon as we're sorted

Thanks. You're all [stars]

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 08:33:56

Pidj, check your PMs.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 08:34:36

Soupy, that's a lovely idea.

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs Wed 31-Aug-11 08:35:37

I can't find Lydia's contact details to PM her. If nobody has it, I can probably remember the name of her shop and phone her again.

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Wed 31-Aug-11 08:35:47

I will help.

I can't knit, but I will donate money or buy and post the wool, whatever is easier to co-ordinate.

sad

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 08:42:01

Ripstheirthroats, Lydia is on here somewhere. She's posted fairly near the bottom Magic's blanket

If you can take that bit on, that would be brilliant. [star] smile

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs Wed 31-Aug-11 08:42:04

It's OK, I found her and sent a PM.

GalaxyWeaver Wed 31-Aug-11 08:47:16

im in, might see if i can source the wool myself this time.. still waiting on my donor wool here!

I can send wool or money, though money is probably easier for me.

CognitiveDissident Wed 31-Aug-11 08:51:12

I can crochet a couple of squares. Any particular design or colour?

What wool thickness/type/tension and size of square do you need? I can supply my own wool.

hairypotter Wed 31-Aug-11 08:55:00

Happy to donate money as I can't knit. Or send someone wool, whatever is easier to co ordinate.

I cant imagine what they're all going through. I'm so sorry for your loss whatevertheweather

I'm a recent returner to knitting but will knit a square. I can supply my own wool etc (as long as I can find it)
Could you post all the specs - wool type, colours, needles, size, no stitches etc.

Seems like no time since the last blanket was started. sad

if someone wants to send me wool i can get some squares done up sharpish. will get mum to help she is a really fast knitter.

calrabbit Wed 31-Aug-11 08:57:25

Hello,
I am happy to knit again if that helps.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 09:00:03

Wool is:

Debbie Bliss Cashmerino DK (NOT the baby cashmerino)

or Rowan Cashsoft DK.

They are much of a muchness and can be combined.

4mm knitting needles
cast on 33 stitches (for knitters)

6" squares

Will be back with more info shortly.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 09:02:54

If anyone can knit initials into their squares, we would like an 'E' for Erin and a 'K' for her sister.

Many thanks.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 09:05:16

Colours

If we continue with the palette we've used for previous blankets, we can use any spares.

Blues, purples, pinks, greens, silver/ greys

How much wool do you need for a square?
I'm a bit new to this and don't want to run out half way.

The colour palette sounds very soothing IYSWIM.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 09:11:43

Whenisitmysleepytime, most knitters get 2-3 squares from a ball. If it's 2, that's absolutely fine.
We ask you to include any leftovers with the squares when you send them so we can use it to stitch the blanket together.

MilkNoSugarPlease Wed 31-Aug-11 09:19:39

I didn't manage to send any wool before buy if someone can match me up and tell me what site to buy it off then I will get some

So so sad

Thanks knotty I'll get myself organised with wool online tonight.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 09:22:34

We're sorting things out now, Milk. Thanks.

As we've done in the past, we'll match doners to woolly folk...once we're a bit more organised.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 09:24:52

Previous blankets and quilt pics can be seen here

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 09:34:17

I've got 8 or 9 already and I know there's some in the post. Also some wool so I could use those to make squares instead of waiting to edge? How long have I got as it were?

SoupDragon Wed 31-Aug-11 09:39:20

Pidjin, mine went in the post yesterday, first class.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 09:39:28

Pistey is sending you two balls for edging if that helps your decision.

I've done 10 for Magic's blankets and Piste is sending me more wool today that went to her instead of me.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 09:48:15

Apologies for lots of x posts I'm at work and it's a busy day. Will drop in when I can [star]

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 09:49:44

Pidj, can you get your PMs at work?

If not, I'll switch to text.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 09:49:47

Soupie and knotty that's the stuff I meant!

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 09:49:47

Soupie and knotty that's the stuff I meant!

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 10:03:51

OMA!!!!!!

Have PMed you. Could you get back to me as soon as you can?

Ta. smile

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 10:24:02

Current numbers:

14 woolly folk

12 donors

You lot are bloody marvellous smile

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs Wed 31-Aug-11 10:25:50

Tis a great thing, this pulling together. Still waiting for a PM from Lydia. I was going to just send the money, but she might be on holiday.

SoupDragon Wed 31-Aug-11 10:29:17

Knotty/Oma, I have ordered some wool myself so if there are more donors than crafter's, i can be left me off.

These blankets make me feel strange. On the one hand there is the excitemment of pulling together to do something lovely and the enjoyment of creating something and on the other the deep wish that it wasn't necessary and a smidgen of guilt at enjoying it.

ripstheirthroatoutliveupstairs Wed 31-Aug-11 10:30:09

Well said Soup.

WhoremoaneeGrainger Wed 31-Aug-11 10:32:11

AM currently doing for Magic 8 but am happy to carry on if someone can send me some wool???

Thanks

Hi, ive just got the pm from rips, this is just so sad, obviously im on board with knitting! I have no yarn left but my Debbie Bliss Rep just so happens to be visiting today so depending on how quick the yarn is needed i can see if i can get a discount on the yarn? If this is ok let me know what colours, i have to order bags of ten so i could order a bag of cream, a soft pink, soft purple, and blue that way anyone with wool let over from magic8 will still fit in tone wise. Let me know what people think, she's coming at 1
My heart goes out to whatevertheweather and her family x

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 10:38:46

Lydia, you [star]

We're going with the same palette, so purples, pinks, blues, silvery tones, greens. Anything in that spectram would be marvellous.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 10:39:32

Blimey, I obviously mean spectrum

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 10:40:08

Cream would be good too.

CoffeeIsMyFriend Wed 31-Aug-11 10:41:23

When you are all organised could someone PM me details of who to send/paypal some money to and I will get it done asap.

So sorry that yet another blanket is needed. sad

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 10:42:32

Will do, Coffee. Many thanks.

belledechocchipcookie Wed 31-Aug-11 10:44:45

I can knit, you'll need to tell me what size to make the square though. sad My thoughts and prayers are with whatevertheweather and her family.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 10:47:12

Belle, squares need to be 6".

Wool is Debbie Bliss Cashmerino DK or Rowan Cashsoft DK. Blues, purples, silvers, greens, pinks.

Many thanks.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 11:04:32

Whoremoanee, hold back on your offers I need you as back up on construction if that's ok? Seeing as there's cake no posting involved [star]

Thumbwitch contacted me earlier because Cheeseandgherkins lost her daughter last christmas and I'd finding things hard. I'll divert extra squares to her, which gives me 3 blankets to make up.

Knotty. Oma's out for the day

[star]

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 11:08:00

Pidj, I'll crack on with matching then. See Lydia's post above ^^ re wool.

Once my little darlings are back to school, I may have a bit more time to help you with construction. Depends on how the term starts and how my raffle plans go.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 11:10:09

OK folks. PM me with your offers: crafting, donating, need wool, don't need wool.

Ta smile

Pidj count me in, need wool again though. So sad to be needed again so soon sad

theglove Wed 31-Aug-11 11:12:48

If you still need any knitters, I'd like to knit.
Very sad circumstances again.

X post sorry, have now pm'd

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 11:13:28

I'll be out for a couple of hours but will get back to you all asap.

belledechocchipcookie Wed 31-Aug-11 11:16:15

Thank you Knotty.

100years Wed 31-Aug-11 11:18:34

I can't help making squares for this one I'm afraid, but I think there is enough wool left in the stuff I sent to purple with my Magic8 squares to make another square if she can use it to make a square, and I'm happy to have my squares shared around the blankets in whatever way they can be. I'll ask purple what she thinks when she receives the ones I sent her yesterday.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 11:20:52

Aw come on, 100 years! Would take your mind off labour wink

Please do not apologise for not knitting this time. Methinks you have enough on your plate. Best wishes with your baby, my lovely smile

Sending a PM now Knotty.

RatherBeOnThePiste Wed 31-Aug-11 11:25:33

Am happy to do the co ordination for you Knots. Really sad another blanket is needed.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 11:27:33

Piste,

since when have you been co-ordinated? grin You haven't tried that Shred yet then?

Cheers lovely but I'm charting it all up I type [multiskilled]

100years Wed 31-Aug-11 11:27:52

Thanks Knotty. I've pm'd purple and see what she says about what there is left. I would happily do some if I could be sure I would have time to do it before the arrival, but you just don't know, and I don't want to let anyone down. Thanks for the best wishes.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 11:28:22

I will have a knitter for you to send to though.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 11:29:33

That was for Piste, not you 100Years smile

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 11:31:16

Enjoy your new person, 100. I'll check pm's now then before the entire top level management descends on me for a meeting <eek>

100years Wed 31-Aug-11 11:33:50

Thanks knotty, yeah I did gather that.

And thanks purple. I'll go back to the other thread now.

herbietea Wed 31-Aug-11 11:40:34

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Georgimama Wed 31-Aug-11 11:45:42

I still have one or two (depending on how much one ball yields) to do for magic8's blanket, which I will try to get done today.

How urgently are we trying to do the blanket for baby Erin? If next week is not too late I will have time on my hands then, I will struggle to do any more this week than finish the squares I have already agreed to do.

My DD is four weeks old. I can't even begin to imagine how whatevertheweather feels. Actually I can, and it makes me feel ill. sad

herbietea Wed 31-Aug-11 11:52:36

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cloudpuff Wed 31-Aug-11 11:59:50

I can crochet as many squares as possible, I'm waiting for wool for magics blanket but will be able to work on both at the same time.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 12:00:19

I'm not a mum but I know what you mean, georgi sad there are so many tragedies playing out every day, it's comforting to know that we can alleviate a little of the suffering

Pinot Wed 31-Aug-11 12:02:18

Heartbreaking news.

I'm in and my knitter songbird should be messaging you pidjin my chick (we've spoken on facebook to sort it).

<STAR>

Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 12:08:37

Georgi, if you're happy to pair with me again, I can send you more wool - if I send the same colour, it might help? Would that be ok, then it'll be one less for Knotty to worry about and I still have your details on PM so it's easy.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 12:08:56

Pinot, do you want to sort out wool with SongBird directly?

Georgimama Wed 31-Aug-11 12:12:31

That would be great thumbwitch, thank you so much.

Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 12:13:25

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Georgimama Wed 31-Aug-11 12:13:30

I've PMed knotty to ask her not to pair me with a donor as I have you.

Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 12:14:24

Georgi, that's fab - I'll get onto it straight away. Would one more ball do you, or would you like 2? Happy either way. smile

Georgimama Wed 31-Aug-11 12:14:49

I remember cheeseandgherkins' posting about Scarlett, so so unfair all these losses. I say let's do it.

herbietea Wed 31-Aug-11 12:15:28

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Georgimama Wed 31-Aug-11 12:17:26

Oh go on - send me 2 if you can manage it. DS starts school on Monday so I will only be twiddling my thumbs in between feeds for DD next week!

Fo0ffyShmoofer Wed 31-Aug-11 12:20:13

I'd like to send money please if someone can PM me where to send it.

herbietea i've just ordered from them. you're right about next day despatch before 3pm. they've also just sent me a voucher code which is too late for me but might be of use to others.

5% off with NEWSLETTER voucher code. HTH smile

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 12:22:57

Foofy, PM me with how much and I'll match you.

herbietea Wed 31-Aug-11 12:26:42

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Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 12:27:44

No worries Georgi - 2 it is smile

HollyGoHeavily Wed 31-Aug-11 12:31:07

I'd like to donate some money/wool as i'm afraid i can't knit - my heart goes out to Whatevertheweather.

Please could you PM me details of how I go about getting involved?

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 12:48:58

PMed you, Holly.

OpheliaBumps Wed 31-Aug-11 13:14:06

I can knit, can someone let me know what wool & colours please?

I'm on holiday next week, so probably can't start till I get back on 10th, will that be ok?

angelpantser Wed 31-Aug-11 13:31:50

Happy to knit or crochet again. I can take 3 or 4 balls worth on if I can be matched to a donor or donors.

Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 14:20:22

Georgi - 2 balls of same wool ordered, from the same place so chances are the dye lot will be the same (plus I had everso cunningly ticked "remember me" on the checkout forms so didn't have to retype everything!)
I was going to get a cream ball instead of 2 greens but there wasn't one in stock there, so you have two more balls of green. Hope that's ok smile
And have a [star]!

I'll be happy to take on a couple of squares again, if I can be matched to a donor?

LadyWellian Wed 31-Aug-11 14:38:51

So sad that we need so many blankets, but of course count me in. I've run out of wool doing Magic8's squares though, so would appreciate being matched with a donor this time.

I can block a couple of squares tonight, and I have a SAE that Lydia has sent me, so could get them to Pidj quickly if need be.

Knotty I'll PM you.

SoupDragon Wed 31-Aug-11 14:46:37

I'm more than happy to contribute squares for C&G too.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 14:52:06

Wow, what a response in just 7 hour!

Don't forget Lydia is getting some from her wholesale rep today - that's the best way to get exactly the right stuff because she's "one of us"

[star]

Georgimama Wed 31-Aug-11 14:52:45

thanks thumbwitch, I am getting quite fond of that green! Second butterfly nearly finished and third won't be far behind - intention being one for each of magic8's blankets but if they don't get spread across the three it isn't a big deal.

Will get cracking asap on next batch.

Ive just had my rep in, ive ordered some more yarn which should be here friday/monday. If anyone does want any let me know, same as last time £3 a ball. Unfortunately i will have to charge postage which is £1.58 for one ball, £1.96 for 2/3 balls. Ive gotta do nursery run so i'll try and post links to the colours ive ordered later x x

GrownUpNow Wed 31-Aug-11 15:10:56

I'll knit some squares if I am matched with a donor. Been itching to knit and knowing it's going to something worthy would be great.

crazynanna Wed 31-Aug-11 15:16:07

Just been made aware of the Blanket threads (newbie) smile
You lot are so wonderful! I now know I made the right decision joining Mumsnet.
I am really rubbish at knitting/crochet/sewing blush,but if there is a way I can donate funds dor yarn and wool and stuff,I would be so happy to smile

crazynanna Wed 31-Aug-11 15:16:43

for

Pinot Wed 31-Aug-11 15:18:29

Yay nanna! Message the OP and you can buy wool and have it sent on to your allocated knitter. smile

LadyWellian Wed 31-Aug-11 15:19:44

Can someone link to the butterfly pattern please? Or PM me the chart if not. I'm sure it's somewhere in the 34 pages of the other thread but I'll get fired if I go looking for it now.

crazynanna Wed 31-Aug-11 15:24:48

Yay Pinot smile
Will definitly do that...I think it is wonderful <snotting and crying whilst typing>

Fontsnob Wed 31-Aug-11 15:28:08

OK, will buy wool and send it to someone with greater skill than I...so I PM Lydia and Purple?

Fontsnob Wed 31-Aug-11 15:29:14

Or..Grownupnow can I be your donor?

Georgimama Wed 31-Aug-11 15:29:51

I'm doing this one LadyWellian, if done in the specified wool on 4mm needles it comes up at 6 x 6 if you keep the tension fairly snug. It's fairly easy - I have conquered my fear of moss stitch thanks to this project.

TinyPawz Wed 31-Aug-11 15:30:50

I'm a beginner at knitting and crocheting and would love to contribute to a blanket. Does it matter that I am not an expert/experienced crafter

Georgimama Wed 31-Aug-11 15:36:52

Tiny I'll take the liberty of answering you - no it does not matter! Plain garter stitch or stocking stitch would be fine (can't crotchet at all myself). I think the only thing the organisers are "strict" about is using the right wool so that the blankets wash and wear as well as possible.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 15:37:37

Folks, if you are offering skills or money, PM me smile

I've started the matching process. Some of you will be getting PMs about now.

Some later...

crazynanna Wed 31-Aug-11 15:39:22

Messaged you back,Knotty smile

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 15:39:28

Tiny, we welcome all levels smile

We've had lovely people actually learn how to knit in order to contribute.

Plain squares are great and look fantastic between the fancier ones. They show each other off beautifully.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 15:44:48

*Reposting wool details:

Debbie Bliss Cashmerino DK
or
Rowan Cashsoft DK

Colours: blues, purples, pinks, greens, silvers, creams

Wool available from LydiaTheTattooedLady for a very reasonable rate. PM her - she's a bit further up thread.

Wool also available online.*

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 15:48:49

If you need wool from a donor, could you PM me your address if you haven't done so already?

As you were.

duchesse Wed 31-Aug-11 16:14:22

I can knit but can't spare any money at the moment. I'd like to contribute to this blanket for Whatever.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 16:25:11

IMPORTANT

One plain garter stitch square with half the stitches dropped is just as valued as the dozens sent by experienced crafters.

I can knock out granny squares by the dozen, others struggle with each stitch. I don't give a flying toss how fancy your square is, it is enough that you care about a stranger and want to bring them some comfort

That is all for now until I remember what else I wanted to say

Im relatively new here and have seen these threads before and wondered about them.
Id like to help,I can knit. Would I be of use being in the usa,I dont know if I can get the right kind of wool.
Could someone please explain how things work and If I can help id be honored to be included

Fontsnob Wed 31-Aug-11 16:50:41

Okay, am PMing Knotty.

LadyWellian Wed 31-Aug-11 16:54:42

Thanks Georgi. I've recently conquered my fear of moss stitch too, though I'm afraid the words 'keep the tension fairly snug' struck fresh terror into my heart - I don't reaally do 'snug' grin

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 17:05:07

TheOldTrout,

the wool is available in the states so you should be able to get some.

We're doing this new blanket and another one too so I think you probably have time.

As much as I hate to say it, there will probably be more blankets. If your squares don't arrive in time for this one, we can always use it for others.

Oh.my.goodness. I have just seen the link to this thread. I actually can hardly type through the tears - I just cannot believe that you are all willing to make and give this amazing wonderful gift to a complete stranger. Please let me know where I can send some money too - it is enough that everyone is willing to give up their time for us.

I don't know if cwwm said but I will be giving the blanket to my elder dd Katie and telling her it was made by the loveliest ladies for her from Erin and that when she has it over her it will be Erins way of giving her a cuddle.

Honestly you will never ever know how much this means to me and my family at this dark time. A thousand thank you's xxxxx

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 17:06:50

Trout, if you can get the right wool then please send me squares and they'll be welcomed. We've had contributions from canada, new zealand and thailand before so I don't see why we can't have america too!

Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 17:08:45

More than happy to do it for you, WTW - anything to be able to help in the smallest way possible.

Pidjin - and Australia! grin

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 17:09:18

Wtw, thank you. Those are exactly the reasons people want to be involved in projects like this and hard evidence like your post make it even more worth it [star]

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 17:09:19

Wtw, thank you. Those are exactly the reasons people want to be involved in projects like this and hard evidence like your post make it even more worth it [star]

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 17:09:24

Here you go, Trout:
USA Debbie Bliss supplier

I can buy some wool if someone's looking for donations. 'fraid my knitting skills are pretty poor and are definatly not up to standard for a precious blanket.

How do I do this?

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 17:14:10

PM me, youarekidding. Thanks.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 17:17:17

Whatevertheweather,

a woolly hug is exactly what we intended. smile We hope that it brings some comfort to you all in these difficult times.

I've asked that some knitters include the initials 'E' and 'K' for your girls. If there is anything else you would like, we'll do our very best.

Done knotty

I love the idea of a 'hug from Erin'. What a lovely way of putting it WTW.

TimeForCake Wed 31-Aug-11 17:30:19

I think the 'hug' idea is just lovely too Wtw, it will mean a lot to Katie I am sure. My condolences to you and your family and hoping the blanket brings you all a little comfort.

Thanks for the pm knotty. 11 squares and you have just learnt how?! Wow! [v impressed emoticon]. smile

hairypotter Wed 31-Aug-11 17:33:05

whatever your post is so beautiful. What a lovely way to put it, a woolly hug from her little sister. Again, I am so so sorry for your loss, and may this bring some small shred of comfort.

WTW we are glad to be able to bring you and your family some small comfort at this sad time. I'm so very sorry for the loss of your baby daughter Erin.

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Wed 31-Aug-11 18:47:32

I'm sorry to be a nuisance but I offered to donate this morning, either wool or money. The thread has moved on a lot since then but I'm not sure what I should do/who I should contact? Can someone point me in the right direction pretty please ...

I promise I'm not completely hopeless, and I will be able to find the post office, my purse etc grin

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 19:12:28

TinyWee, pm knottylocks and she'll find you a crafty match [star]

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 19:34:42

TinyWee, I've got you on my list smile

I'm doing the bedtime routine thing before finishing off the matching.

Great name btw.

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Wed 31-Aug-11 20:20:12

Thanks ladies I wasn't meaning to be pushy, just worried I missed something I was supposed to know! If that makes any sense!

Thanks knotty I like yours too, its very apt for myself and 3dds, lost count how many combs I've snapped this year grin

NessaRose Wed 31-Aug-11 20:31:45

Knotty, have PM'ed you.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 20:33:37
Tsil Wed 31-Aug-11 20:51:52

Knotty I have pm'd you. I donated for magic8 but all the incredible knitters on that thread inspired me to learn so can knit basic squares/patterns.

If I could be matched with a donor that would be great but if not I can probably get the wool myself.

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 21:03:36

Yay Tsil!! Go for it grin If you're anywhere near me (New Forest) I'll teach you the superior art of crochet wink

[star]

purplepidjin Wed 31-Aug-11 21:05:33

Oh and everyone - don't forget Lydiathetattooedlady runs a wool shop and has lots of the exact right wool in stock at the discount price of £3 a ball - put some business a MNer's way and get exactly the right wool sent to exactly the right place without having to go through complicated explanations!

BornToFolk Wed 31-Aug-11 21:09:02

I've just seen Whatevertheweather's thread and would like to knit some squares.

I hope it brings some comfort to you and your family WTW. I'm so sorry for the loss of Erin.

GetOnYourDancingShoes Wed 31-Aug-11 21:16:21

If any more knitters/crocheters are needed, I'd like to help. It's the anniversary of my son's death today and I'd like to do something positive IYSWIM.
If someone could let me know where to send the squares, I'll get going as soon as possible.

Lydia can you tell us your website?
or is that naughty <looks around furtively> i'm looking to buy wool for other projects too smile

So sad purple and Knotty.

I've done seven granny squares for Magic8's blankie but have run out of wool now (will be posting them tomorrow with leftoverwool for edging). I'm happy to do some more for the other blankets if you have more donors than crafters.

Sending whatevertheweather and cheeseandgherkins a woolly hug.

Shoulddohousework Wed 31-Aug-11 21:27:15

I cannot knit or crochet but would be willing to donate money/wool whatever is required for such a sad cause although what everyone is doing is lovely!

I have just put a few photos of Erin on my profile for a short while if anyone would like to see. I totally understand if people do not want to as they are quite sad (don't know how else to word it sad ) I specifically put the one of E and K together on there so you could see the lucky recipient of your wonderful blanket x

RatherBeOnThePiste Wed 31-Aug-11 22:00:15

Oh my word Whatever...
I'm so very sorry for the loss of baby Erin and hope this blanket and the woolly hug it brings may give you and your family some small shred of comfort. x

TimeForCake Wed 31-Aug-11 22:11:50

Words don't seem to be enough sad but I wanted you to know that I have looked at your precious photos of little Erin. What a lovely one of your girls together to treasure. Thank you for sharing them and showing us all which special little girl will soon be receiving woolly hugs.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 22:14:45

Whateverthe weather,

thank you for sharing some precious moments with us. I am so very sorry for your loss. It is very clear how very loved Erin will always be. My thoughts are with you all. x

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 22:16:13

I've juts returned to my laptop and to an avalanche of PMs. Thank you all, I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

Pinot Wed 31-Aug-11 22:17:16

Thank you for sharing WTW. I'm so sorry.

lia66 Wed 31-Aug-11 22:20:06

Oh God wtw they are powerul pictures, I am in tears for you at your beautiful daughters together. sad

thank you for sharing, you are being remarkably brave. x

LadyWellian Wed 31-Aug-11 22:23:34

Yes, thank you WTW. Words really fail me but my thoughts are with you all.

QuickLookBusy Wed 31-Aug-11 22:30:34

Such a lovely thing you knitters are doing!

I'm not great with a needle so would like to contribute some wool or money, whichever is easiest for the organisers.

Thank you for sharing WTW, your daughters are beautiful and an absolute credit to you. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.x

Shoulddohousework Wed 31-Aug-11 22:40:00

Oh WTW those pictures are beautiful, Thank you for sharing them - So sorry for your loss!

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 22:57:57

I'll get the matches out to everyone tomorrow.

If you asked for wool and haven't PMed me your address, you'll need to please.

KnottyLocks Wed 31-Aug-11 23:00:23

Details for wool are up thread for those buying.

I've only just seen this thread, thank you so much for the mention as well, I have been struggling a lot recently and would be honoured to have a blanket made. Thanks for mentioning me Thumbwitch.

WTW I was told of your thread and I'm so sorry for your loss, both your daughters are beautiful. I haven't been strong enough to read through it yet but I will sit down and do so tomorrow. I felt a lot of disbelief at first, numbness and I really didn't believe it could be happening. Again, I'm so sorry for you sad

Thumbwitch Wed 31-Aug-11 23:53:00

You're wlecome, C&G. smile

Peachy Wed 31-Aug-11 23:56:05

Purple can you let me know where to send a square or 2 please? Won't be hundreds- you know why, bloody time- but I really want to do it.

Thanks X

MrsDBouquetVAMOSRAFA Thu 01-Sep-11 00:58:58

If at all possible, could someone pm me please with where to buy the wool and who to post it to ?

Thank you.

KnottyLocks Thankyou Ive ordered some wool,none of the stores listed were close enough to get to easily.I just hope it arrives in time for me to get stuff there. At the risk of seeming stupid,what size squares am I knitting?

KnottyLocks Thu 01-Sep-11 06:57:40

OK, a quick reminder:

*6" squares
4mm needles
Debbie Bliss Cashmerino or Rowan Cashsoft
Colours: blues, purples, pinks, greens, silvers, creams*

PM me if you are offering to knit/ crochet or donate

Many thanks.

KnottyLocks Thu 01-Sep-11 07:00:03

TheOLdTrout,

Don't worry, we haven't set a last posting date for this blanket yet. We still have people making and sending squares for Blanket 5 so you have a while yet.

KnottyLocks Thu 01-Sep-11 08:27:16

I've PMed donors this morning with matches.

If you are a donor and haven't heard from me, it is probably because I'm waiting for a few addresses from woolly volunteers.

If you haven't heard by this afternoon, please PM me.

Thank you all for your support. So many people offering to help. You [stars].

Georgimama Thu 01-Sep-11 08:39:31

WTW your children are beautiful. Cheese I am so sorry for your loss too. Words seem so inadequate.

KnottyLocks Thu 01-Sep-11 08:50:18

Oh Blimey, sorry Cheese. I missed your post: my head's in spreadsheets.

I am so very sorry. I hope our blanket can bring you a little comfort too.

wtw and c&g I can't begin to imagine what you're going through. I'm so sorry for both your losses. wtw what a special picture you have of your two girls.

I'm very happy to knit a few squares if I can be matched, will PM knotty

Thank you. I posted some photos of Scarlett before but I've got another link to them now with a few newer ones of her grave and flowers sad Obviously they're quite sad and the ones of her are when she'd just been born after being inside me for 4 days before I was induced (we knew she'd died). I'll try and add it to my profile also. I added one this morning of Scarlett with dh too. Oh and at the time I couldn't scan the ones of her so they are a photo of the photo if that makes sense.

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Tsil Thu 01-Sep-11 09:37:42

WTW and Cheese I am so sorry for your loss. My heart is breaking or you both and I hope you stay strong in the coming months.

Purple - many thanks for the offer unfortunately I live near the east coast grin luckily my MIL knits and when I have a spare 5 hours minutes she is going to help me knit more than a hat and scarf.

Georgimama Thu 01-Sep-11 10:47:30

She's beautiful Cheese, but then you know that. I am so sorry.

TimeForCake Thu 01-Sep-11 10:49:04

Such precious photos Cheese and you have put so much time and thought into Scarlett's grave. I am very sorry for your loss and hope you are feeling a little stronger. I hope our blanket will help in some tiny way. Thank you for sharing Scarlett's photos with us.

cheese Scarlett is absolutly beautiful.

I am so sorry for your loss. sad

wtw and cheese your daughters are very beautiful, im so sorry for you losses, cant see through tears in my shop! I hope these blankets will be able to offer you a little comfort. All my love x

Have also posted this on magic8s thread.
hi, ive spoke to Debbie Bliss (not the lady herself!) this morning order is in and to be dispatched today, and i should receive them tomorrow/monday. If people want to reserve colours and pay once i have the stock in the shop thats fine.
The colours ive ordered are
cream
pale green
pale blue
lilac
pink
They didnt say any were out of stock so fingers crossed we've got them all!

Fo0ffyShmoofer Thu 01-Sep-11 11:55:12

WTW and C+G Your precious girls are so beautiful. So sorry for both of your losses.

KnottyLocks Thu 01-Sep-11 12:05:10

I'm getting my blankets and threads muddled confused

I posted this on Magic8's blanket thread when it was for you lovely lot.

I'm out for the rest of the day but will answer any PMs on my return.

I know that some donors haven't had their matches yet: I'm waiting on a few addresses. I haven't forgotten you

We haven't set a last posting date yet, but realistically it won't be for at least another 14 days or so as Magic8's squares are still in production.
The last posting date for Magic8's squares is Friday 9th September.

Thumbwitch Thu 01-Sep-11 12:39:17

I've just done the same thing so re-posting it here, sorry! blush
Lovely ladies, I have had a message from CheeseandGherkins about her other children's initials - they are C, M and E - so if anyone could please offer up those letters, as well as the S for Scarlett, that would be lovely, thank you.
[stars] for everyone - you're all so wonderful.

MojitoTime Thu 01-Sep-11 15:35:25

Hi everyone

I haven't read the whole thread, but I have a ball of purple wool that I would like to donate if it is still needed?

TimeForCake Thu 01-Sep-11 15:56:18

If you pm Knottylocks, Mojito, I'm sure she'll be able to sort you out. She has been matching donors and crafters. Think there is a certain type of wool though for these blankets? Knotty will know the details!

Peachy Thu 01-Sep-11 18:09:55

Cheese <<hugs>>

Peachy Thu 01-Sep-11 18:14:08

'Wool is:

Debbie Bliss Cashmerino DK (NOT the baby cashmerino)

or Rowan Cashsoft DK.

They are much of a muchness and can be combined.

4mm knitting needles
cast on 33 stitches (for knitters)

6" squares
Colours: blues, purples, pinks, greens, silvers, creams

PM knottylocks if you are offering to knit/ crochet or donate'

(Sorry was having trouble finding the details each time so thought that others might as well?)

I've got some foxglove which is a lovely heathery pink colour Rowan wool. they will be plain as I haven't knitted since years back, but I hope they help.

KnottyLocks Thu 01-Sep-11 18:22:38

Thanks, Peachy.

Foxglove sounds lovely.

Plain squares are brilliant and they look fantastic sewn next to fancier ones. They really compliment each other. The wool is so lovely...it'll spoil you!

Cheese so sorry for your loss, like others have said your daughter is beautiful and I too hope the blanket will bring some comfort to you and your family. I will light a candle for baby Scarlett at mass on Sunday as well as one for baby Erin. You and WTW are in my thoughts and prayers.

SDTGisAnEvilGenius Thu 01-Sep-11 19:43:47

I've got 3 or 4 squares ready to go, and I'd be grateful if they could be split between the two blankets. If I can knit any more in time, I will.

I just hope they provide a bit of comfort at such a difficult time, and my heart goes out to Whatevertheweather.

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 07:10:26

SDTG, I've PMed you.

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 09:00:31

I've matched people up...I think.

Wool should be on its way shortly to:
Lorelai
DutchOma
Rubycon
PosterofaWolef
SongBird
TheGlove
Lydia
Herbietea
Cloudpuff
LadyWellian
Angelpantser
Coffeenadchocolateplease
GrownUpNow
TinyPawz
Duchesse
PurpleKnittingMum
Tsil
GetOnYourDancingShoes
BearGryllsBra
NessaRose
AppleBlossoms
KateeTheBump

Donors, you should've had a PM from me.

If anyone has asked for wool and isn't on the list above, please PM me.

If you have offered to donate wool and haven't heard from me, please PM me.

There are many more woolly crafty folk who are getting their own wool who I haven't listed above.

Thank you all so much. [star]

CoffeeIsMyFriend Fri 02-Sep-11 09:11:46

Thanks I have been matched, have contacted wool lady and wool should be on its way soon to my knitter. grin

knotty you are a *

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 09:28:00

I feel I should, for balance, list donors too:

Lilithmoon
QuickLookBusy
Fontsnob
Shoulddohousework
HotSummerNights
TimeForCake
Crazynanna
Coffeeismyfriend
Faverolles
Comewhinewithme
Tonksforthememories
Lia66
Tinyweeteethgreatbigbite
2tired2bewitty
Hairypotter
Milknosugarplease
HollyGoHeavily
YouAreKidding
Chaszbrillaintattitude
SEMummy
MrsDBouquet
Pinot
Thumbwitch
Ripouttheirthroats
FoofySmoofer

I'll get back to you with the list of woolies who are making with wool their already have and/or buying.

<scatters more [stars]>

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 09:33:43

The rest of the wonderful woolly posse:

SoupDragon
LawrieMarlow
Trumpton
GalaxyWeaver
CognitiveDissident
Whenisitmysleepytime
Meow75
OpheliaBumps
Borntofolk
VerityBrulee
Peachy
SDTG

Georgiemama, I missed you off the first list. Sorry blush

If I've missed anyone else, please let me know.

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 09:41:18

Ack, missed:

TheOldTrout
Belle

Sorry.

Morning, wow that is a very impressive list of donors and knitters. I feel a bit sad as i bumped in to my friend who lost a little girl at 38 weeks and keep thanking about whatever and cheese,my thoughts are very much with you x x

i just thought id let you know ive had the yarn in this morning. I have replied to some pms but have a lot that im tryiong to ge through. Im sending the sa me message to everyone to make it a bit quicker, i hope you dont think im being rude...i'll pop it here too if anyone wants any yarn. Any ordered and paid for before 3.30 will be sent today x x

Hi! I have had the yarn delivered this morning, have you a colour preference? I have cream, light pink, light blue, light green and lilac.
The paypal address is knitonepurlone@hotmail.co.uk
If you could pop in the message box on paypal your mn name so i know who nhas sent it.
It will be £4.58 for one ball and postage and £4.98 for 2 balls and postagex

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 10:18:21

Lydia, is that the right amount for 2 balls? Doesn't seem right.

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 10:30:37

I've PMed you, Lydia.

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Fri 02-Sep-11 11:33:16

Lydia I don't have a paypal account, can I still order from you? Do you have any other methods of accepting payment?

Can anyone recommend me a supplier, if I am not able to order from Lydia?

Thanks x

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 11:35:10

TinyWee, PM Lydia. I think she's pretty busy smile

OpheliaBumps Fri 02-Sep-11 12:34:57

Knotty's right Lydia, you've added the extra postage but not the extra ball of wool!

I've just paypalled you, so I'd do a 2nd payment of £3.00 to cover the 2nd ball of wool.

TimeForCake Fri 02-Sep-11 12:38:17

At the risk of interfering blush I agree with Knotty that Lydia's price for 2 balls doesn't look enough. I know she must be snowed under, so have just copied below what she said previously. Don't want you making a loss Lydia but sorry if this is interfering! At least if those of us buying wool today go by this pricing, it should mean Lydia won't have to cover all the p&p.

Copied from lydia's earlier post:

If anyone does want any let me know, same as last time £3 a ball. Unfortunately i will have to charge postage which is £1.58 for one ball, £1.96 for 2/3 balls.
(I shall now hide in case I have made a woolly balls up on behalf of Lydia smile)

Oh flipping heck...yes sorry its £7.98 for 2. Sorry Ive had masssive winter order in that im trying toget put a way in between customers foraging and ripping ball bands tobits!

tinywee i can do card payments? For magic8s blanket 2 donors emailed me their details and i put through and obviously deleted any details!

duchesse Fri 02-Sep-11 13:36:06

Question, since this is the first time I've knitted squares for a MN blanket: Do the squares have to be plain knit or do people do whatever stitch/pattern they feel happy doing?

Anything goes duchesse so long as you use the right wool and make it a 6" square.

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 13:59:03

Duchesse, there are some pics of our previous blankets here along with some photos of Edgar's quilt, also created by Mumsnetters. Hope it gives you an idea of what we're aiming for.

As SongBird said, any style as long as it's the specified wool and is 6".

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Fri 02-Sep-11 14:37:34

I can't use my PM today, im posting from my phone so it might be that.

Lydia that's great news and I will email you my details I am off out for a bit, (tis my birthday!) But I will do it when I get back home.

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 18:24:52

Hey, TinyWee, it's my birthday too! Happy Birthday grin

And like you, I'm off out for summat drinkable

KnottyLocks Fri 02-Sep-11 18:25:43

Also, TinyWee, I have another mission for you wink

happy birthday tinywee and knotty...i just want to make people aware that the colours ive got arent the same as the ones from magics blanket as they are from the new seaon. The Other ones were from last summer where as these ones ordered are from this winter, they are so new they arent even on the debbie bliss website yet as i had hoped to link the shade card so people can get an idea of the colour they are ordering The cream is also a dark cream, whereas the one from magics is white-cream. I hope that makes sense and no one is disappointed confused

crazynanna Fri 02-Sep-11 19:16:05

Happy Birthday Knotty! smile

Happy birthday tinywee and knotty smile

crazynanna Fri 02-Sep-11 19:33:03

...and Tinywee blush

Happy birthday ladies! Enjoy the wine and some [cake] smile

I will await my one or two balls as I couldn't decide! Knotty has told the donor to decide! blush

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Fri 02-Sep-11 20:03:04

Happy birthday knotty xxx

Thanks ladies for the birthday wishes x

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Fri 02-Sep-11 20:06:09

Ok knotty, hit me with it ...

RatherBeOnThePiste Fri 02-Sep-11 20:07:14

Someone will receive wool from me tomorrow. Fingers crossed. I posted it first class this afternoon.

I am learning to knit, it's going OK but ver ver slow, and this is wool I ordered for me rather ambitiously. Anyway it came first thing and I'm sending it to you instead my lovely Crafty type, then you can get on, and I have ordered more for me. I'm not going to need it for a while!

It is a ball of light cream and one which is a sort of pale lilac pink, I really hope you like it, and I am confident you will make something totally gorgeous. (((Hugs for my lovely knitter)))

And Happy Birthday to our twins!
wine
wine
[cake]
[balloons]
[lovely nosh]
[dancing]
[party!!]

Pistey
x

herbietea Fri 02-Sep-11 20:13:46

Message withdrawn

Oh and happy birthday to Knotty and TinyWee!

Thumbwitch Fri 02-Sep-11 21:26:33

Happy Birthday TinyWee and Knotty! Hope you have had a great day and evening. smile

Mouseface Fri 02-Sep-11 21:38:51

Am I too late? I can't knit, sew, crochet or anything like that but I am great in bed happy to send some money.

So sorry to hear the news. sad xx

Oh and Happy Birthday to those who are a little bit older today smile

Oh I would like a ball to send to my knitter I'm matched with.

I'll PM you Lydia tattooed lady.

Happy birthday Knotty and TinyWee! Hope you'tre both having a lovely day!

TimeForCake Fri 02-Sep-11 22:09:24

mouseface pm KnottyLocks and she'll pair you up with a crafter.

Birthday wishes Knotty and Tinywee! smile

OpheliaBumps Fri 02-Sep-11 22:10:16

Happy birthday Tinywee and Knotty, hope you're both having a lovely evening!

LadyWellian Fri 02-Sep-11 23:09:25

Happy birthday TinyWee and Knotty. Oh, and Mouseface, I like the cut of your jib. grin

Pancakeflipper Fri 02-Sep-11 23:12:05

I could knit a square or 2, if anyone wants to send me instructions, tell me what to do and perhaps the wool ?

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 07:06:07

Morning all smile

Thanks for all your well wishes, you [stars].

Right, it's business as usual. Stand by your beds.

I'm returning your PMs.

YougreatPamplemousse Sat 03-Sep-11 07:10:03

I'm late to the party this time - could someone match me to a donor then I will PP Lydia for some wool.

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 07:20:41

PampleMoose, you're on my list. PM me your address, please.

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 07:23:00

ooops, sorry, that should be Pamplemousse blush.

It's early.

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 07:27:29

Lydia

Please don't worry about the colours. They sound lovely and we like variety smile

YougreatPamplemousse Sat 03-Sep-11 09:25:52

Knotty I meant a knitter - it you leave me to knit it will look like a macrame owl!!

SoupDragon Sat 03-Sep-11 09:40:05

I am crocheting bear squares, aiming at one per blanket... Please remind me how many blankets we are doing?!

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 09:55:19

Soupy, currently we are working on blankets for:

Magic8 - being organised on another thread

And on this thread:

Whatevertheweather

CheeseandGerkins

Pamplemoose, a macrame owl would be a lovely addition grin
No worries, I've stuck you on the donor list. I'm waiting on a couple of addresses from some knitters now.

SoupDragon Sat 03-Sep-11 10:11:25

Thanks.

Is it just one blanket for each of Cheese and Weather?

Magic8 I have done and sent off.

SoupDragon Sat 03-Sep-11 10:13:19

This time round the bears are a fawn colour and the outside a rather nice purple from the Rowan version.

I also thought I'd ordered a ball of cream Debbie Bliss but it has turned out to be too yellow!

I am really getting confused at to what blankets we have done etc! I think I have done all of them, I think I have sent of in total for 5 so far, and thought Whatevertheweather was number 6, is Cheeseandgerkins number 7 then?

Georgimama Sat 03-Sep-11 10:18:56

Yes. As we are working on both at the same time we just didn't start a third thread, but we are doing 3 blankets for magic8's daughters and one each for WTW and cheese.

OK thanks! It was a bit more confusing as I think after number 4 was done I got a random ball of wool sent to me, checked if we were doing any, none needed at the time, so kept it, and used it for Whatevertheweather. Mind you, doesn't take much to confuse me! grin

Mouseface Sat 03-Sep-11 11:41:34

Morning ladies.

LadyW - I thank you grin

Can I just say that I think these blankets are such a lovely idea. Long may the 'kindness of strangers' continue. xx

puddleofpiddle Sat 03-Sep-11 12:53:40

I'd like to sign up again if you need and more squares, just finished a couple for magic8's blanket. Is it possible to be matched with a wool donor this time as I'm nearly out of yarn!

Purpleknitting mum I will send you two balls am going to pm Lydia now.

Pistey was it me you posted to? My yarn has just arrived, a cream and lilac ball, lovely colours. I'll crack on once dd has decided to nap. Thank you!

Whatever and Cheese, my heart goes out to you both. Your pictures are beautiful.

DutchOma Sat 03-Sep-11 13:17:18

I've just received two balls that I ordered myself from Lydia, she is really on the ball grin. Better start knitting before the two balls from a donor arrive, or as Knotty says, I will be buried under a yarn mountain.

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 14:04:04

Blankets made this year so far:

Edgar ( who also had a quilt)
Rindercilla
BlondesHaveMoreFun
Blanket 4, made from surplus squares from the others. We're hoping to use this to raise money for Winston's Wish charity. I'm still working on the details.

Working on: Magic8 (which is actually 3 blankets)

And these two.

Mouseface Sat 03-Sep-11 16:54:14

<rushes in, grabs Knotty and swings her round>

You are a [star], a really shiny selfless [star]. smile

You all are.

I've PM Lydia with my order. smile

Thanks Knotty! I forgot about the Winstons Wish one

Ooo thanks HotSummerNights! I shall look forward to them, think I will do a 2 colour granny square and then not sure!

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 17:21:52

Mouseface, calm down! grin. It's a team effort!

<feels a bit dizzy confused>

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Sat 03-Sep-11 17:26:41

Oh I'm wondering now how old knotty is ... and if we were separated at birth ...

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 17:29:21

OK quick reminder:

If you have the skills (and worry not if you haven't - I certainly don't),
we're looking for initial squares for Cheese's blanket - C, M, E, S,

and initials for Whatevertheweather's blanket are K and E.

I know at least one of you is on the case.

Thanks.

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 17:30:34

TinyWee, mentally I'm very very young.

<remains an enigma>

wink

DutchOma Sat 03-Sep-11 17:46:33

Yes, have done one E and am half way through the second.

Georgimama Sat 03-Sep-11 18:37:34

I will try and find some charts with initials. Am waiting for my wool to arrive in post - are we anywhere near a final posting date?

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 19:08:01

Georgi, I'm just sorting that at the moment: probably be 10-14 days time.

I'll confirm the exact date tomorrow.

As Pidj is going to be busy with Magic's blanket, it'll be me doing this one.

so Knotty, are these squares being sent to you?

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 19:39:36

Afraid so, PKM

KnottyLocks Sat 03-Sep-11 19:52:57

Pidj will be available as my expert consultant...as long as I feed her cake.

SE13Mummy Sat 03-Sep-11 20:07:14

I've got all confused and posted the below message on the wrong thread blush start-of-term-itis is to blame.

Anyway, on Thursday I ordered 3 balls of wool (jeans, soft teal and mauve) and sent them West. If you are the arty recipient of these please don't feel you have to use all of them up on this project.... there were too many gorgeous shades to choose from and I couldn't make up my mind. Please feel free to put surplus wool towards another MN knitting project or anything else you're making that could use it.

Thank you for being willing to share your knitting skills so that I am able to donate.

Oh silly postman! He tried to deliver my wool today and we were out. Apparently wool is too large to squish through my letter box.
I'm getting itchy fingers waiting to start as I am not a speedy knitter.

Good job ds is back to nursery on Monday and I can crack on then.

Hope everyone is doing well with their wooly endeavours! smile

trumpton Sun 04-Sep-11 08:49:13

I have had the most enormous tooth abcess since Thursday ( think cartoon stylee swollen face ) am dosed up with mega anti=biotics and wobbly leg pain killers. I have done one square for Whatevertheweather's blanket and hope to be well enough to do the other 2 before wed. What is your last day for delivery ? I reallly want to be part of this blanket too and will send just the first square if I am going to be out of time,The wool is DB008 the colour of the sky over Port Erin yesterday.
yours < with Ttowel tied round jaw>
Trumpton.

I have got the wool for Cheese's squares ready to knit . It's a lovely pink the same colour as the seathrift that flowers out at Scarlett.

trumpton Sun 04-Sep-11 09:02:37

I am so sorry if I have mixed up names and blankets,I am doing squares for magic8 and whatever at the moment.

KnottyLocks Sun 04-Sep-11 11:14:41

Ouch, Trumpton. I hope you feel better very very soon.

I'm getting confused myself. confused

KnottyLocks Sun 04-Sep-11 11:29:52

The colour of the sky over Port Erin...how very apt sad

VerityBrulee Sun 04-Sep-11 12:01:57

I have finished two squares, one of which is an E. I'm using cashsoft in a soft greeny blue. I have enough for one more square. Any preferences on what I do? I can do any letter.

KnottyLocks Sun 04-Sep-11 12:14:16

Verity, a 'K' please for Erin's sister.
Thanks.

VerityBrulee Sun 04-Sep-11 12:37:41

Great, I'll start it now smile

Georgimama Sun 04-Sep-11 12:48:45

Verity, do you have an easy chart I could follow to do letters please?

Mouseface Sun 04-Sep-11 13:13:13

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! PayPal hates me! Lydia - can I send you a cheque? Or payment another way? Sorry. Will PM you too. x

Thumbwitch Sun 04-Sep-11 13:37:22

For Cheese&Gherkin's blanket, the letters E, M, C and S would be lovely please, if anyone fancies picking those up?

Mouseface - Paypal hates me too. It's mutual grin

VerityBrulee Sun 04-Sep-11 13:40:43

Georgimama, I have great charts in a book called Natural Nursery Knits by Erika Knight.

If anyone wants to pm me their address, I can get dh to photocopy it and post it to you smile

KnottyLocks Sun 04-Sep-11 13:49:00

A pox on Paypal, eh Mousey.

OH Excited.

I navigated paypal, ordered a ball of wool from Lydia and it should be soon winging it's way to my reciprient.

angelpantser Sun 04-Sep-11 14:12:11

My wool has arrived - many thanks to my donor. I have a pretty apricot colour and a lovely silver grey. Hopefully getting MN back on my laptop today or tomorrow (a voluntary 'ban' during the summer holidays, in case I became so absorbed in MN that I forgot to feed the family etc) so will add pictures of the squares made for Magic's blanket then.

KnottyLocks Sun 04-Sep-11 14:32:10

Angel, I think there is a little more on its way to you. Just remember to feed the family too.

angelpantser Sun 04-Sep-11 14:42:54

Brilliant, thanks Knotty. Big ones go back to school on Wednesday and my DS starts Reception the following week. I'll be glad to have something to do to take my mind off being the oldest mum in the playground.

MilkNoSugarPlease Sun 04-Sep-11 14:46:57

Knotty, have PMed Lydia to order a further 2 balls of wool for the second person you matched me with-won't let me PM you !

Georgimama Sun 04-Sep-11 15:13:56

When I get my wool I will do initials for Cheeses' blanket.

Thumbwitch Sun 04-Sep-11 15:53:35

Thank you Georgi - hope it comes soon! smile

Mouseface Sun 04-Sep-11 20:03:23

SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!! grin

Sorry, I can't let this happen twice, it happened with Edgar, I couldn't get PP to work and tried to be for a way to pay although I did send cards to her and the lady who lost her husband, Richard.

Somebody MUST want my money. It's real and everything! It's not made of cheese, I promise! grin

crazynanna Sun 04-Sep-11 20:04:56

Mouseface, Knotty very kindly allowed me to send her cash (registered) smile

I have just replied to every ones pms sorry its taken me so long, i have spent a rare day off out with the kiddies! x x

Mouseface Sun 04-Sep-11 20:56:44

Lydia - thank you, panic over! xx

I have finally managed to get pictures of my squares up on my profile (had to abandon ipad and use dp's laptop). The wool used for my squares was donated by Pinot.

KnottyLocks Sun 04-Sep-11 22:34:46

Sounds dodgy sending me cash grin

I spent it on wool, honest.

KnottyLocks Sun 04-Sep-11 22:38:11

SongBird, they are very lovely [star]

Thanks knotty will be posting to pidj in the morning. [star] to you too

purplepidjin Mon 05-Sep-11 00:17:23

Apologies for my absence, I've spent the weekend surronded by friends and volkswagens grin

I'll be home in the next hour or so, hopefully I'll be able to get through my front door past the woolly parcels! I promise I'll wash between 3 days of camping and handling the squares wink

Liberal sprinkling of [star]s

<Trots off to hunt through chat and find other threads>

purplepidjin Mon 05-Sep-11 00:17:24

Apologies for my absence, I've spent the weekend surronded by friends and volkswagens grin

I'll be home in the next hour or so, hopefully I'll be able to get through my front door past the woolly parcels! I promise I'll wash between 3 days of camping and handling the squares wink

Liberal sprinkling of [star]s

<Trots off to hunt through chat and find other threads>

angelpantser Mon 05-Sep-11 09:23:19

Back on the laptop - hurrah.

Pictures of the squares for Magic's blankets should be on my profile. Thanks once again to Hulababy for donating the wool.

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 09:26:46

Morning all smile

Last posting date for Whatever's blanket squares is Saturday 17th September. Hope that's ok with you all. Any later squares will go on Cheese's blanket as I'll be working on Whatever's first.

Squares are coming to me, not Pidj. I'll PM the address to you as early as I can this week

Please include any leftover wool - I'll use this to put the blankets together. Also include your MN name so I can tell you they have arrived.

If you'd like to send a card for Whatever and Cheese, I'll package these up with the blankets.

If you'd like your squares to go on a specific blanket, please write me a little note.

I'm off to work for a few hours. Will return any PMs on my return.

Happy crafting smile

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 09:34:45

Angel, they are lovely [star]

Are the little pink flowers embroidered on? Very cute.

Thumbwitch Mon 05-Sep-11 10:16:33

Oh God, I run the risk of becoming highly repeptitive but those squares are gorgeous, angel! So clever [star]

These blankets are going to be fabulous. smile I hope they bring the recipients lots of comfort for a long time.

YougreatPamplemousse Mon 05-Sep-11 10:30:36

I have ordered from Lydia to be sent to a MN-er SM from Shef field. I ordered last night so should be with you soon smile

The square I have seen are amazing - well done everyone.

angelpantser Mon 05-Sep-11 14:51:16

Yes the flowers on the green square are embroidered on. I've been knitting for about 35 years and intarsia is still a mystery to me.

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 15:25:56

I've sent out details of where to send squares for Whatever's and CHeese's blankets.

If you didn't get the PM, please let me know.

If you got the same one twice or three times, I'm sorry. It's a bit busy in here today.

sqweegiebeckenheim Mon 05-Sep-11 15:36:59

angel those squares are amazing!

angelpantser Mon 05-Sep-11 15:44:06

Thank you all for your kind words <getting very big headed>.

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 15:52:29

Intarsia is another blooming language as far as I can see.

RatherBeOnThePiste Mon 05-Sep-11 15:57:07

I had to look intarsia up blush & smile

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 15:58:09

Exactly, Piste!

angelpantser Mon 05-Sep-11 16:08:47

Sorry ladies - didn't mean to give you extra homework on top of all the hard work you are already doing.

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 16:11:24

Angel, I was going nowhere near the thing. Hard enough speaking my own language at the moment.

I have ordered wool from Lydia should hopefully get to PKM soon.

Sorry it took so long paypal was playing up over the weekend.

SoupDragon Mon 05-Sep-11 16:57:33

I have been somewhat distracted from this by DS1 probably fracturing his ankle during rugby yesterday. Should have a nice long wait in the fracture clinic on Wednesday which will be ideal for a spot of crochetinggrin

NessaRose Mon 05-Sep-11 17:02:51

Soup your poor Ds sounds nasty. sorry about crapola typing Just come out of hopspital after having a anaphlyactic shock yesterday.
I can't wait till my woool arrives the ds's go back to school tommorow.

SoupDragon Mon 05-Sep-11 17:10:22

He's actually come off lightly I think. There was a possible hairline fracture just above his ankle bone, completely non displaced and so almost not there that they aren't sure it actually is there. Given the rough nature of the game, that's a result! I rather think he will be disappointed if he ends up with no fracture after this.

But I wasn't able to crochet whilst waiting for XRays and plastering as the pattern is on my iPad which was being fully utilised as an electronic baby sitter.

SoupDragon Mon 05-Sep-11 17:11:56

Hope you're fully recovered !

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 17:32:40

Blimey, Nessa! Hope you're feeling better. Do you know what caused the reaction?

Soupy, sounds like your DS may have got away with it. Hope so for your sake as well as his, or he'll be one frustrated boy after the novelty's worn off.

NessaRose Mon 05-Sep-11 17:54:15

Soupy, I am alot better just feellike i've been hit by a bus. and the steroids are making me sleepy and uncoordinated. Glad your ds is ok!

Knotty it was a rubber dogs toy am alergic to latex.

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 17:57:52

Right Nessa, you need to get rid of the dogs. grin

(A tad biased here as I'm allergic to them)

NessaRose Mon 05-Sep-11 18:06:32

Knotty, we don't have dogs it's my dbro's! it was my own fault tho.

No worries HotSummerNights, I will let you know on here when it arrives!

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 18:13:07

If he loved you....

darksideofthemooncup Mon 05-Sep-11 18:28:20

I've just ordered wool and needles, Can someone PM me the address the squares need to be sent ? Also is there a time limit? I am a beginner so I might not be as quick as some.

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 19:08:26

DarkSide, I'll PM you. Last posting date is Sat 17th Sept.

darksideofthemooncup Mon 05-Sep-11 19:15:55

Lovely, I reckon I can get them done by then :D

SoupDragon Mon 05-Sep-11 19:40:03

But why were you chewing a rubber dog toy?

wink

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Mon 05-Sep-11 21:26:47

HELP!

Right I am sitting in front of laptop, credit card at the ready.

Can someone confirm that I need to order

Debbie Bliss cashmerino DK.

And any help with shades would be most helpful ...

<thinks I may be banned in future>

hairypotter Mon 05-Sep-11 21:43:55

angel and songbird your squares are fabulous!

My wool should be on it's way to my lovely knitter today. I really wish I was a better knitter myself so I could join in more.

RatherBeOnThePiste Mon 05-Sep-11 21:52:52

I've copied this from earlier in the thread..

wool is.....
Debbie Bliss Cashmerino DK (NOT the baby cashmerino)

or Rowan Cashsoft DK.

colours... Blues, purples, pinks, greens, silver/ greys

RatherBeOnThePiste Mon 05-Sep-11 21:54:51

<helpful>
although TinyWee - you've probs fallen asleep onto the keyboard by now [zzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Mon 05-Sep-11 22:19:13

Thanks Rather, I'm sure my wooly match said pink but I couldn't open my PMS

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 22:48:51

PMS?

grin

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 22:51:05

TinyWee, my twin, how could I possibly ban you?

Now, did you order the wool?

TinyWeeTeethGreatBigBite Mon 05-Sep-11 22:54:22

Yes, at last I did Knotty!

I have just PM'ed you, (tis working now on laptop!)

Ah PMS=PM's, the feeling of rage that both invoke is very similar!

KnottyLocks Mon 05-Sep-11 22:55:56

Excellent. Mission accomplished.

belledechocchipcookie Mon 05-Sep-11 23:08:17

Ok, I've received wool (thank you to RatherBeOnThePute) and have started. Have received your DM with the address so as soon as I've finished I'll pop them in the post. smile

TimeForCake Tue 06-Sep-11 08:45:45

CoffeeandChocolateplease - did the wool that you received come from Lydia? Just wondering if I might be your donor? If not, I ordered a cream and lilac ball to go to the West Country last week. Hope it's arrived ok smile

I picked up my wool from the post office.
It's gorgeous stuff! It will make a gorgeously tactile blanket.

Rather glad I ordered extra for me! smile

Just got to have a shower and hope dd has a really big nap so I can get knitting!

duchesse Tue 06-Sep-11 09:19:59

I haven't received anything yet- hope it's not gone missing... {sad

KnottyLocks Tue 06-Sep-11 10:03:28

Dunno what's happened there, Duchesse. Your donor PMed me to say it had been ordered.

I'll go have a little check.

Hi! duchesse do you know if your donor got it form me? I can check my proof of postage to see when it was sent if she did x x
Im probably going to sound really silly but has the magic8 thread gone? I cant find it? Ive got 15 squares done for the blanket and imabout to start on squares for cheese and whatevers blanket.
And to sound like a broken record, everyones squares look beautiful x x

KnottyLocks Tue 06-Sep-11 12:18:15

Lydia, Magic8 thread is here

Duchesse, I've PMed your donor.

TinyPawz Tue 06-Sep-11 12:52:22

I received a lovely ball of wool today from an anon MNer. Thank you whoever (whomever?) you are.

I'll start knitting this afternoon.

I haven't received any wool yet either. Knotty can you get in touch with my donor and just confirm when it was sent etc? Looks like the postal service is a bit slow at the moment...probably due to all the mnetters sending woolly parcels up and down the country!

KnottyLocks Tue 06-Sep-11 13:51:18

Apple, your wool was ordered on the 1st but not with Lydia so it may be a little slower.

I'm at work tomorrow and Thurs so won't have much time to chase it.
Are you happy for your donor to contact you directly?

Yep, that's totally fine. I'm sure it's just being a little slow and will turn up in the next few days. Thanks for organising all of this.

GrownUpNow Tue 06-Sep-11 14:36:59

I've received two balls of wool today and started on the first square. I hope I am doing it right, co 33 st and knit until square right? I'll maybe play about with a pattern once I've done the first one.

Thank you to my donor. xx

RatherBeOnThePiste Tue 06-Sep-11 14:51:07

Hey belledechocchipcookie - thank you for being my knitty person x

belledechocchipcookie Tue 06-Sep-11 14:56:33

You're very welcome. smile Such sad circumstances though. sad

NessaRose Tue 06-Sep-11 15:12:39

Knotty can you check to see if the wool has been ordered for me please? Sorry to be a pain.

Soupy how is your ds?

KnottyLocks Tue 06-Sep-11 15:43:26

Nessa, it's been ordered. How you feeling today?

NessaRose Tue 06-Sep-11 16:50:09

Thanks Knotty. I am feeling a bit better just very tired.

trumpton Tue 06-Sep-11 17:16:01

Toothache sorted. Dentist took one horrified look at face (hmm and took xrays . Put his next patient on hold and whipped tooth out. Will start squares for Whatever and Cheese' families tomorrow. Have done squares for Magic8 family and will block tonight and post tomorrow.

NessaRose Tue 06-Sep-11 17:17:39

trumpton glad its been sorted for you.

KnottyLocks Tue 06-Sep-11 17:57:37

Glad you are both on the mend. Now, take it easy, please!

Knotty - would you like us to block the squares? I've not blocked anything before but it looks fairly straightforward. I think... hmm

Pancakeflipper Tue 06-Sep-11 19:02:14

I received my ball of wool today. Thank you so very much to the person who gave the dosh and to the organised posting out person. I have started! But I am a slow knitter so gotta crack on with it. Thanks Knottylocks for sending me the details for posting.

duchesse Tue 06-Sep-11 19:14:05

I received two balls (one cream, one green) from a wool shop in Melton Mobray today, so thank you, kind donor! I shall start this evening.

Pancakeflipper Tue 06-Sep-11 19:24:42

That wool shop in Melton Mowbray must have empty shelves and the owner been standing in a queue at the post office all of yesterday with a spreadsheet the size of a small country.

theglove Tue 06-Sep-11 19:31:47

Am in a mild panic as I don't know what blocking is.

I've finished my Magic squares and will post in the morning, I hope they are ok.

TinyPawz Tue 06-Sep-11 20:37:48

Blocking??? Are you ladies trying to confuse me with technical terms?

purplepidjin Tue 06-Sep-11 20:45:20

Don't worry about blocking, i find it shrinks the holes i have to crochet into and makes the whole job harder blush plus the way I work it (and will pass on to Knotty over fruit juice espresso and cereal bars chocolate cake soon) they all end up looking the same size anyway grin

TinyPawz Tue 06-Sep-11 20:50:56

pidjin you are my hero. I was breaking out in a cold sweat.

TinyPawz Tue 06-Sep-11 20:52:21

and I dropped a bloody stitch!!!!

trumpton Tue 06-Sep-11 20:58:47

Well ! < humph> i shall just go and unblock mine then !! grin Only joking. I have only pinned them out overnight.

theglove Tue 06-Sep-11 21:14:50

Phew about the blocking.

I've put mine and Tsil's squares on my profile (I think) I hope they're ok, some of my edges are a bit wobbly, but I hope will be ok when sewn together.

purplepidjin Tue 06-Sep-11 21:17:11

Meh Trumpton's dramallamaing again hmm wink [star]

theglove, my dear, you need to make your profile public so that I can swoon in awe at your talent [star]

theglove Tue 06-Sep-11 21:19:45

Oops, I've changed it blush

pancake im the woolly shop in Melton Mowbray!
The women at the teeny weeny post office has been doing all my parcels since magic8s blanket was started, she keeps giving me funny looks when she sees the 'name' of who they are addressed to!

theglove your squares look lovely!

purplepidjin Tue 06-Sep-11 21:47:47

Lydia, I have two parcels to collect from the sorting office addressed to Purple Pidjin. Luckily, my delivery folk are all absolutely lovely and know what's going on grin it's a bit creepy knowing that the postman knows my username though, bit like being outed hmm

Glove, those are incredible! [star]

Hi! I've been looking for this thread...i didnt see it had moved blush
Ive put on my profile the 17 squares ive done, i have got tit bits of yarn left but will save them for sewing up! The blank squares i will be embroidering with initials like the purple one with the 'I' on.
Have been looking at everyones squares, they're absolutely stunning grin
x x

Oh bums this was meant to be on the other thread!

KnottyLocks Tue 06-Sep-11 22:48:48

Re blocking: I don't mind at all if they aren't blocked.

However, I really would be ever so grateful if you could sew in those pesky ends. Blummin hate doing that!

[stars] for all the very lovely squares smile

TinyPawz Wed 07-Sep-11 00:08:32

Pesky ends?

RatherBeOnThePiste Wed 07-Sep-11 07:12:19

I'm so glad it's not just me. Hugs new best friend TinyPawz.
Knotty - can you be really specific about the sewing in of these pesky ends?

For my benefit I mean really clear!!!!

Thumbwitch Wed 07-Sep-11 07:16:11

loose wool ends at cast on and cast off points, TinyPawz. smile

Thumbwitch Wed 07-Sep-11 07:17:26

stick a darning needle through the line of stitches, thread the loose wool end through the eye and then pull the needle through - the loose wool end is then securely lost among the stitches. smile

Morning, pesky ends is the 'tail' as my mum called it that's left from casting on and off, you just use a darning needle to work the tail bit into the square so it can't be seen. my mum did mine I'm rubbish at it hope that makes sense, I'm sure someone will be along soon that can explain it better.