Films which just annoy you

(105 Posts)
HollyMiamiFLA Sat 15-Feb-14 16:31:34

James Bond - just his casual sexism and his treatment of women.

I'm watching Ice Cold in Alex. The first female became "hysterical" and got shot.

The second female is all sympathetic. But she "couldn't understand wha they were doing" and now she lets out the clutch and the truck goes down the hill. She bursts into tears.

Cheers - Sam being so charming around women and most of them falling for it. Just hits on every women in the bar.

Drives me mad.

EddieBlizzard Sat 15-Feb-14 16:44:28

Alfie - With Jude Law - Ugh
Most Rom-coms - rom-con more like

Xfirefly Sat 15-Feb-14 16:45:09

I agree, James bond

legoplayingmumsunite Sat 15-Feb-14 20:13:05

Marley and Me.

I'd read good reviews and was so annoyed that the Jennifer Anniston character was just there to be supportive and loving of her husband, the bloody dog had more character development. I think I was even more affronted because it was a 'female friendly' film about a marriage and there was a good opportunity to really show a real relationship but didn't consider anything from the female viewpoint at all.

At least James Bond is openly admitting it's a male centred film (albeit with some gratuitous naked shots of Daniel Craig), but I want a family focused film to have at least some female viewpoints.

Wishyouwould Sat 15-Feb-14 20:15:42

Pretty Woman makes me teeth itch.

Wishyouwould Sat 15-Feb-14 20:16:14

*my!

Ballsballsballs Sat 15-Feb-14 20:29:39

My Fair Lady. 'I made you'. Keep chucking those shoes at him, Eliza, and LTB pronto.

MrsWolowitz Sat 15-Feb-14 20:32:16

How I met you mother - the earlier series when the mysoginistic Barney is conning women into sex and treating them appallingly yet it's all hilarious hmm

RedPencils Sat 15-Feb-14 20:38:44

I watched James Bond this afternoon with DS for the first time. The treatment of women was shocking! I've probably seen the most if the films loads of times, but watching with DS put a new perspective on it.

Greythorne Sat 15-Feb-14 20:43:24

Pretty Woman. So wrong. Has done so much to perpetuate the tart with a heart who just needs the love if a good man to rescue her myth.

I hate the scene where she goes back to the high end boutique and goads the shop assistants about not serving her. Because women earning an honest living in a shop obviously deserve to be mocked.

RedPencils Sat 15-Feb-14 20:51:56

Oh yes Pretty Woman. 'I never treated you like a prostitute'. Er, you're paying her to shag you.
That said, I loved it in my teens.

mathanxiety Sat 15-Feb-14 20:52:50

Mrs Doubtfire.

It makes a mockery of custody and issues women have with unfit fathers when they divorce. The Robin Williams character stalks his ex wife and family, and breaches the court order awarding contact times. The cunning and arrogance and self absorption involved is all 'funny' of course, and perfectly understandable -- after all he is just a father who loves his kids gosh darn it. There is secret keeping by the children when Mrs D is found out. This is ok too. Finally, the Sally Field character is portrayed as an uptight, fun-killing feminist (working mother committed to her career) but underneath her tough surface she is a fool who doesn't really know what she wants and who is forced to admit her judgement about her husband was way off.

Fairylea Sat 15-Feb-14 20:58:07

Pretty woman makes me feel sick now. I really hate the cringe worthy smugness of Richard gere's character. It's like he takes ownership of her, and she's grateful for it. Actually makes me so angry!

<watched it very recently so probably overreacting!

Ballsballsballs Sat 15-Feb-14 20:59:54

^^ Agreed.

Any film which features a woman and her ex e.g. Liar, Liar. Her new partner is invariably portrayed as wimpish and deeply flawed, and is only there to act as comparision to the woman's One True Love, the ex. Who she always goes back to, no matter how badly he treated her. She is not allowed to move on.

minniebar Sat 15-Feb-14 21:00:14

Love fucking Actually.

Just for everything

what a perfect thread grin I just watched Bridget Jones today and as you do, asked myself the essential question- what would MN think? can't remember anything specific except vaguely that people don't like it. Does anyone have any thoughts?

I can't get myself to be too wound up about this, but Notes on a Scandal. The woman we're supposed to hate more progressively is very poorly developed so that when it comes to the end and we start getting really disgusted with her, we're not interested in anything but blaming her. So, at least IMHO, she doesn't evoke genuine, compassionate, patient interest or sympathy. And the other woman is beautiful, blonde, gentle and completely taken in by her, suggesting that it must be very hard indeed to spot these people when actually, we should probably all be trusting our gut reactions more when it comes to feeling a bit wary at the first sign of something off. It's not encouraging towards women I find.

southeastastra Sat 15-Feb-14 21:05:07

i saw some of the disney frozen the other day, that's bloody awful. bug eyed female characters singing about meeting the 'one'

generally i disklike most hollywood films these days

EverythingCounts Sat 15-Feb-14 21:07:42

Indecent Proposal. The whole proposal bit where RR says 'If I offered you $1m for one night with your wife....' to the husband, who looks at Demi Moore who says 'He'd tell you to go to hell'; husband quickly says 'I'd tell you to go to hell'. Where to begin? The whole notion of her body being there to be traded between two men, and she doesn't even say 'Ask me if you want to have sex with me, it's my choice!' angry

Ballsballsballs Sat 15-Feb-14 21:11:32

Anything by Quentin Tarantino. I've come to realise that male on female violence is filmed at length, and somewhat lovingly, particularly the scene where a woman is murdered in Inglourious Bastards. Very nasty stuff.

And fucking Richard Curtis films. All of them. Notting Hill cleansed of non-white people. Love Actually with one working-class character for decorative purposes. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

History Boys. Paedophilia presented as 'Aw, shucks'; indiscretions committed by a lovable character.

VoyageDeVerity Sat 15-Feb-14 21:12:12

Fatal attraction

Not a one night stand but an emotionally vulnerable woman he shags, chills out with, cooks dinner, cuddles and spends nights with falls in love with him. He threatens her, beats her up, and humiliates her. Yet the positioning of the empathy in the film is totally and utterly in his favour.

I fucking hate that film it makes me sick.

Frankie and Jonny

Mixed feelings about this as the last scenes are v moving but he really stalks her for months before she goes out with him. He is really obsessive and scary. Of course she is eventually v grateful a man wants her hmm

Greythorne Sat 15-Feb-14 21:13:23

The scene in Pretty Woman where Gere is all Big Business Deal whilst Roberts can't figure out which cutlery to use is horrible.

Greythorne Sat 15-Feb-14 21:15:41

Frankie and Jonny...the film where the homely, unattractive waitress is played by...wait for it, one of the most beautiful women ever, Pfeiffer.

VoyageDeVerity Sat 15-Feb-14 21:16:07

Pretty woman is indeed horrendous. The girl that ended up dead in a dumpster they talk about at the beginning was because she was " a total fuck up".

The piano scene ( vom)

Voyage but if HE was emotionally vulnerable, would the tables be turned? She is a scary woman- ill but just because she's ill doesn't mean she's driven by a force she can't control.

VoyageDeVerity Sat 15-Feb-14 21:25:47

No she is not without blame if course. But it was they way he was positioned as the "Everyman who slipped up " when he was horribly abusive himself. The public response to the film was that she was an evil whore and poor him for stumbling upon her.

VoyageDeVerity Sat 15-Feb-14 21:26:31

And he wasn't emotionally vulnerable at all so it's pointless to imagine he was.

That's very true. The film is completely slanted that way and you wonder how they can have made it so obvious. I also think it was a total cop out that there seemed to be no consequences for him. She died- and the total threat was removed. Nothing about addressing his shortcomings, he got his family back. Not that I think he should be punished for having the affair, but on a more symbolic level, the fact that he can shake off the whole affair much more easily that many others would be able to just emphasises the whole masculine luck, strength image.

Hiphopopotamus Sat 15-Feb-14 21:35:06

He's Just Not That In To You.

Terrible message about the power balance in relationships. Women sitting back and passively waiting for men to make the decisions on all major relationship decisions.

Ballsballsballs Sat 15-Feb-14 22:09:15

There's a new musical being written about Fatal Attraction, and I'm reliably informed that it has a totally different ending to the film. Thankfully.

expatinscotland Sat 15-Feb-14 22:17:43

Misery porn films to teach us all a lesson about the ills of the past.

scallopsrgreat Sat 15-Feb-14 23:14:56

Ballsballsballs I was just going to say anything by Quentin Tarantino too. Gratuitous male violence. Not needed. My partner is currently watching Inglourious Basterds. I am studiously ignoring.

Pretty much agree with everyone else too!

Oh and anything by Roman Polanski or Woody Allen.

legoplayingmumsunite Sun 16-Feb-14 00:26:04

i saw some of the disney frozen the other day, that's bloody awful. bug eyed female characters singing about meeting the 'one'

Well, to be fair to Disney (never thought I'd say that!), all the other major characters tell that character that her romanticism is misplaced and she should get to know someone before she falls in love. The person she gets engaged to after one night turns out to be the villain of the piece and the act of true love that saves her is the love between sisters. And it passes the Bechdel test in the first scene and repeatedly throughout the film. Easily Disney's most feminist princess film (Lilo and Stitch is still better though!). Agree about the bug eyed animation, I think they spent all their money on the animation of the snow and ice.

rosabud Sun 16-Feb-14 01:37:47

Any American film featuring divorced parents.....where feckless father gets a chance to rebond (generally by having whacky adventures) while poor "career" Mum spends the entire film off screen ........ errr......not having whacky adventures but.......working!! NIGHT IN THE MUSEUM!!!! Sometimes, feckless father is not present, but rather than poor working career Mum having the whacky adventure, she still has to go off to a work conference and rope in feckless "hopeless" with kids (but luckily, usually "redeemed" by the end of the film by a love interest) single uncle - what's that one with Adam Sandler where all the bedtime stories come true? Both great adventure films BUT WHY CAN'T MUM HAVE THE ADVENTURES???

Thank you to the poster who explained about Mrs Doubtfire - always wondered why that film makes me want to heave!

WhentheRed Sun 16-Feb-14 05:18:23

There are too many films that annoy me. I agree with everyone else's picks. I found Mrs. Doubtfire to be a nasty, bitter film. Robin Williams' character was seriously angry.

Braveheart is one that was on recently. The whole prima noctis thing gets on my nerves. Apart from the fact that it didn't exist, the most horrific injustice against a man is the right to have sex with his virgin bride. angry

I am sure I can come up with more but I have actually stopped watching films because I get the rage.

ElleBellyBeeblebrox Sun 16-Feb-14 05:36:02

Dirty dancing is putrid. I hate it.

What good timing! Just this evening, I took up my free month of Netflix and set up my list. I had to put Tangled on it (can't stand Disney) as I know it passes the Bechdel test and none of my other selections do.

Any recommendations? I like action movies and political intrigue. Already seen Tomb Raider and Brockovitch ... are they the only two??

I love dirty dancing! For the dancing, not the 'romance' grin

... and sorry for inverting the topic, but I couldn't possibly post films that just annoy me; I'd be typing until 2015! I confess to watching films that annoy me with their offhand sexism, though. It's too bloody hard to find works of non-sexist cinematic brilliance (viz my post above.)

HollyMiamiFLA Sun 16-Feb-14 08:58:46

I am seeing things with a different eye now.

Just watch Cheers. He hits on every women in the bar. Most just fall for his charms. Seriously. He's good looking so what the heck?

VegetariansTasteLikeChicken Sun 16-Feb-14 12:02:40

I hate the scene where she goes back to the high end boutique and goads the shop assistants about not serving her. Because women earning an honest living in a shop obviously deserve to be mocked.

Oh that's the only scene I enjoy. They aren't nice people they're classist arseholes who think it's OK to treat someone like something scraped off the bottom of their shoe because of the way she was dressed. And they did deserve a good mocking.

Have had that happen to me. Have wanted to do the same but didn't go on to spend thousands in another shop to flaunt

Anyway, for me I used to love 16 Candles with Molly Ringwald, excitedly watched it again recently.. and oh my god. Just horrible rapey, racist.

I mean the guy we're supposed to be rooting for hands off his passed out girlfriend to a drunk stranger because he doesn't feel like "violating her a thousand ways". And tells the girl that he's him for the stranger to presumably abuse a thousand ways. And THEN the girl wakes up the next day after being raped by the nerd she'd been passed on to, and realises that it was actually good and she really liked him. angry

And then yay, Molly Ringwald hooks up with the scum bag at the end! How the fuck did it ever get made in the first place.

VegetariansTasteLikeChicken Sun 16-Feb-14 12:09:41

The details

Feminist nightmare, main guy cheats on his wife, then has sex with another woman to keep that quiet who gets pregnant.

Then the man who owes him his life kills her to save his marriage. Afte main guy tells him about his fantasies of killing her.

And then after it all main guy realises that he doesn't want to get murderer in trouble..as he has a family confused.

Everything is happy and everyone just get on with life.

It's a dark comedy so it's all supposed to be funny etc, but I just felt like I couldn't get the joke. Not when it's all shit that happens in Rl iyswim?

Innogen Sun 16-Feb-14 12:27:03

GREASE ! Fuck grease.

Danny is a rapey bastard and Sandy shouldn't have changed for him. He wasn't worth it.

Greythorne Sun 16-Feb-14 13:08:10

Yeah but in Grease he also changes for her.

HollyMiamiFLA Sun 16-Feb-14 13:11:29

For 2 seconds.

Innogen Sun 16-Feb-14 13:13:07

Does he really though? Not in any kind of concrete way, his social group and attitude stays the same. Whoopie, I'm gonna get laid.

Tbh once a bloke hadn't taken no for an answer at the drive in, when I didn't want to do anything sexy with him, he'd be straight out the door.

Thelma and Louise. I have no idea how it became this big feminist classic (well at least in the states) when at the end [SPOILER] they off themselves! Oooh look at them not submitting to the patriarchy. Go them.

VegetariansTasteLikeChicken Sun 16-Feb-14 14:02:01

Grease, how can you have "did she put up a fight?" in a song? [cnfused] shock

Also while he does change for her.. she does for him too in to a "bad girl"

TheSmallClanger Sun 16-Feb-14 14:28:40

The last five minutes of Thoroughly Modern Millie. Millie and her friend and boyfriend have all sorts of amusing adventures, meet that brilliant Carol Channing mad auntie in a plane character. Then the end is Millie giving up everything to be a traditional wife. Bleurgh.

Dirty Dancing is an interesting one. It depends on how you interpret the relationship between Baby and Johnny, and how you think it really does affect Baby's life outcomes. The film leaves that very open - the way I see it is that Baby/Frances moves on from Johnny fairly quickly after the end. She might not join the Peace Corps, but she certainly doesn't say she did nothing. Maybe she became a pro dancer. Maybe she became all kinds of things after she came out of the shadow of her family. The age gap thing is never stated explicitly, too - although Patrick Swayze as 30something (iirc), I think his character is meant to be quite a lot younger, as is often the case for Hollywood leading men.

I also appreciate the way that Penny and Baby are never rivals, and that although Penny does suffer as a result of her predicament, she lives, our sympathy remains with her, and the perpetrator is found out and punished.

EEatingSoupForLunch Sun 16-Feb-14 15:31:30

Yes to The Piano - unwanted sexual attention made supposedly 'sexy', yuk. Thelma and Louise because the rape scene is shot in an erotic way. Any of those 'The Girl With' films which seem to get off on violence against women in the guise of finding it outrageous. And Moulin fucking Rouge.

TheSmallClanger Sun 16-Feb-14 17:01:21

Trainspotting.
The novel is hardly a feminist classic, but it has female characters with their own storylines. They have all been taken out of the film, bar the underage schoolgirl one, who is a minor, minor character in the book.

legoplayingmumsunite Sun 16-Feb-14 18:37:15

Any recommendations? I like action movies and political intrigue. Already seen Tomb Raider and Brockovitch ... are they the only two??

'Nothing But the Truth' is fab but hard to find (we saw it on Blinkbox), Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon passes, as does The Hunger Games. I've got an enormous list on my Blinkbox account but there's a problem with the website so I'll try again later.

Stockhausen Sun 16-Feb-14 18:45:41

The piano

That lady be crazy!

Hate pretty woman, yick!

legoplayingmumsunite Sun 16-Feb-14 19:08:16

Agree that Dirty Dancing is interesting. It follows the usual 'woman comes of age by losing her virginity' trope but agree that we can assume that she moves onwards and upwards, she's the one 'slumming it' that won't have negative consequences long term from the relationship. Johnny likes and respects her, and he has a good friendship with Penny as well (you don't often see male:female friendships) so as a male character I like him. Both characters are played by actors much old (Jennifer Grey was in her late 20s when she played the teenage Baby, Patrick Swayze was in his 30s) so I hadn't really thought about any putative age difference. Baby has agency, she confronts Robbie about Penny's pregnancy, she tells Johnny she wants him, she stands up to her father, all the action is driven by her. I do like it and think it's better than most female coming of age films. Then again, maybe I'm just showing my age!

WhentheRed Sun 16-Feb-14 19:16:21

There's an old film called Defence of the Realm with Gabriel Byrne and Greta Scacchi. It's been a while since I last watched it but I liked it. Her character is a secretary (because of course it wouldn't be realistic to have her as a manager) even though she is bright and capable. A bit like real life I suppose.

It's a political thriller.

mathanxiety Sun 16-Feb-14 19:28:40

Recommendations?
I seem to remember Silkwood had a strong female character. Strong but very believable. And there was intrigue and tension.

nkf Sun 16-Feb-14 19:30:07

I found all that squealing in Sex and the City annoying.

minniebar Mon 17-Feb-14 08:02:50

Oh hell yes the horror that is 16 Candles watching it as an adult - I adored that film as a teenager. I was so excited to see it was on Film4 t'other night - I watched less than five minutes before turning it off. Hideously rapey.

and I know they're not films but Jilly Cooper books are hard to read from a feminist POV now

One that did make me go hmm even a few years ago was the John Grisham film with Tom Cruise (is it The Firm?). He gets all heady with the power and excitement of his Big Six-Figure Job and shags a woman at a beach party. At the end, someone else tells his wife that she was a set-up - and lo, she's now able to forgive him. Oh right, so it's not infidelity if your DH didn't actively go looking for it?!

Anniegetyourgun Mon 17-Feb-14 20:21:19

In the book iirc the wife never found out.

samandi Tue 18-Feb-14 12:09:31

Any American "comedy" where the men go on about not being allowed out and hall passes and all that crap. Urgh.

And any film with a beautiful and intelligent woman paired with a dirty, ugly, stupid man.

Callani Mon 24-Feb-14 15:56:11

I should have known better than to go see it, but Wolf of Wall Street was just genuinely awful. I cannot describe how violated I felt after watching that film, and all the bloody reviews just raved about how fantastic it is. It's utterly disgusting and I'm still struggling to explain why it filled me with so much rage when people say "Oh but it was amazing" "It's just showing how it was" blah blah blah. Horrifying.

Scarletohello Tue 25-Feb-14 23:58:00

Callani, what specifically didn't you like about that film, not seen it but curious!

LyndaCartersBigPants Wed 26-Feb-14 00:17:32

Scarlett, as a film about a predominantly male industry the 'perks' for good performance on the stock market included naked women paraded as entertainment, offered to prospective clients on yachts etc. basically all the female characters were purely sexual an decorative.

It was gratuitous and vulgar but I thought that was kind of the point (like using a dwarf as a human dart) to demonstrate just how far removed from moral reality these guys were.

VenusDeWillendorf Wed 26-Feb-14 00:35:41

Knight and day, with Tom cruise and Cameron Diaz. Saw it the other night and my jaw hit the floor.

He stalks her, uses her as a mule, kills everyone around her, puts her through a plane crash, drugs her, brings her home, puts her to bed, leaves stalkery notes all over her house, makes her food and orders her to eat, tells her to keep away from the police, tests her not to tell anyone about him.

Then he chats up her male friend, and isolates her when she is trying to get help, then puts her in handcuffs and abducts her, shooting her old boyfriend.
He then proceeds to shoot lots of people in front of her, chases her when she runs away, and drugs her again to abduct her again. He compliments her driving, making her complicit in his crime."you saved us" boketastic.

Takes her in her drugged state on a international journey, to his isolated island, where he carries large knives and slices off fish heads when talking to her when she's complaining that he removed her clothes and put her in a bikini....

And that's not even half way through......

God I could go on - its such a chilling movie... Classic abuse.

Tom cruise is such a creep. I'm so glad Katie got out.

The only good thing about that movie is Cameron Diaz, but you just want her to hit him over the head with a car part and put us all out of our misery.

MummyBeerest Wed 26-Feb-14 00:52:46

Pretty well any Jennifer Aniston/Lopez/Garner movie.

The protagonist is clumsily adorable and trying to make it on her own and then some rugged, boorish dipshit gets in her way and then "hilarity" ensues. O

h but wait...THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.

Duh! Because women can't be happy unless they're in love, too, you guys.

And that boorish assface? Totally just taking her down a peg. After all, she's gotta be real, right? That's why she's always slipping on her heels, falling face first into penises and making a funny one-liner about her IPhone.

All of that is totes embarrassing, but she gets the guy at the end. WORTH IT.

...

Sorry. Apparently I care very deeply about this.

Scarletohello Wed 26-Feb-14 01:03:34

Knocked Up. Appalling film!

Also a bit pissed off at The Mindy Project on TV. Although she is a successful doctor all she is interested in is getting a bloody boyfriend..!!

Callani Wed 26-Feb-14 12:55:34

Scarlet I think it was just the unending pornographic nature of it all - and it was REALLY pornographic (I genuinely don't know how they got it passed regulation really, it should be X-rated if there's such a thing)

I don't normally get bothered by sex on screen (though I do comment when it's particularly unrealistic) but the whole film just felt really seedy and horrible in the way it portrayed sex.

Examples of things that made me uncomfortable:
- Opening scene is Leo snorting coke from a prostitute's arse (about 30 seconds of it, really uncomfortable)
- Discussion of the "levels of hookers", with high class all the way down to "low rent" which was depicted as a larger woman completely naked, being shagged on a desk, while a line of men from the office watched and waited their turn (some with cocks in hand). Aside from the fact you didn't see penetration this, to me, is pornography
- Just multiple, long, graphic scenes of Leo having sex with different prostitutes
- A scene in which Leo and his business partner "treat themselves" to double teaming a female member of staff "for a Christmas present"
- A very ambiguous scene in which Leo's potentially raping his wife (shortly before beating her up)
- The one time a female character is shown taking control of her sexuality, Leo's character has the last laugh by pointing out that she's being filmed and that the security guards are watching, this is supposedly HILARIOUS.

I could go on, but it was just so graphic, so prominent (at least 1/3 of the screen time I'd say was pornographic) so completely unnecessary to the plot - honestly, we understood that these guys were decadent assholes after 20 minutes, we didn't need another 20 scenes proving it.

LondonNinja Wed 26-Feb-14 13:03:13

Juno. Horrible. Hated hated hated hated it.

itshardthinkingofanickname Wed 26-Feb-14 13:04:44

What was your issue with Juno?

LondonNinja Wed 26-Feb-14 13:17:53

The, er, 'wit'. The one-liners. The plot. The characters.

Deeply annoying.

itshardthinkingofanickname Wed 26-Feb-14 13:21:33

What about the way the issue of teen pregnany was handled from a feminist perspective?

ReadyToPopAndFresh Wed 26-Feb-14 13:36:38

I thought Juno was really well done and a lot more realistic than it would have been if she had an abortion.

Girl gets pregnant has an abortion= immense relief follows for most actual women. In a film that wouldn't be very interesting so they would have her be miserable or some horrible outcome like infertility follow eventually

Girl goes to an abortion clinic to be met by protesters (likely in america) girl is shamed in to having a child by being given incorrect information about development (fetus has fingernails etc) by protester.

Girl is then humiliated in school by being obviously pregnant and then girl has to bear the devastation of giving birth and having nothing to show for it...and always knowing she has a baby out there somewhere. People act like just giving up a child for adoption is like handing out cupcakes.

I really enjoyed a more realistic view of the alternatives to abortion.

Chopsypie Wed 26-Feb-14 13:38:29

10 things I hate about you was on last night.

Still not sure how I feel about it. I loved the film as a teen, as I felt the females were quite strong but only really realised last night that it's the males who drive the storyline

Callani Wed 26-Feb-14 13:44:09

I like Juno but I understand how people could be annoyed by it in some ways. I feel like they really skirt over how difficult choosing to continue with the pregnancy would be, there's barely any discussion of how people react at school, or how she coped with being pregnant and and schoolwork. The ending is "and then everything went back to normal".

As my friend pointed out after watching Juno, "I feel like if I got pregnant it wouldn't be the end of the world and I could be pregnant and give the baby up for adoption" and you could do that, but it's not as easy as it makes out.

ReadyToPopAndFresh Wed 26-Feb-14 13:46:11

Still not sure how I feel about it. I loved the film as a teen, as I felt the females were quite strong but only really realised last night that it's the males who drive the storyline

Feel exactly the same!

Callani Wed 26-Feb-14 13:52:38

10 Things is pretty male driven, but what can you expect from an adaptation of The Taming of the Shrew which is basically, I have to sell off my older daughter to anyone who will take her before I can sell off my far more beautiful younger daughter in a socially acceptable fashion and for a far higher fee.

wol1968 Wed 26-Feb-14 15:40:09

Dead Poets Society. That whole 1950s boys' boarding school thing where females were an alien species to be used for breeding and certain (barely alluded to) pleasures. I was blown away by the emotional message as a first-year student but feminist awareness made me notice its flaws on a second viewing.

Forrest Gump. He gets to have all the fun, she's stuck in the background. She's beautiful and talented and is punished for it by dying of AIDS. He, on the other hand, becomes President....

...er,hang on a minute, I may have mixed him up with George W. Bush. Never mind. Easy mistake to make. wink And Dubya's real, which is kinda scary.

VeggySausage Sat 01-Mar-14 20:59:00
SylvanMuldoon Mon 03-Mar-14 01:14:10

Can't believe nobody has already mentioned Twilight. Gives me the rage! The books are worse though. angry

MorrisZapp Mon 03-Mar-14 01:39:32

Women having jobs is always seen negatively in mainstream films. Even in Sex and the City, the happy ending for Miranda was realising she should work fewer hours, move to the suburbs, and provide her mother in law with personal care. Get. To. Fuck.

Also a,nameless abomination with Diane keaton where a woman with a job who hates babies learns the error of her ways. Utter shite.

Arkina Mon 03-Mar-14 02:14:02

Lost in Translation.

I think that referred to the entire plot line

2 hours of my life Ill never get back

Bubblegoose Mon 03-Mar-14 02:26:20

The Boat that Rocked - awful film anyway, but the bit that had me screeching at the screen was when the DJ (forget the actor) invited someone else to go and sleep with his girlfriend, who apparently couldn't tell the difference between two men in the dark. Creepy and rapey.

yy to James Bond. Especially the last film where the bond girl tells him she was a child sex slave, then he breaks into her place and surprises her in the shower. Really, really grim.

maffive Mon 03-Mar-14 03:30:00

Most of Katherine Heigls films are awful - Knocked Up, 27 Dresses and The Ugly Truth are three I can think of that were dreadful.

Anyone seen 'Playing for Keeps'? Gerard Butler - crap ex husband and absent father. Becomes soccer coach for his sons team. Decides he wants wife and son back, so sets out on a campaign to do so whilst shagging a bunch of soccer Mums. And of course ex wife dumps her perfectly kind and loving fiancee for him (who her son has also formed a strong bond with). Horrible, horrible story.

Generally hate Vince Vaughn films as well.

Heartbreak Kid - Ben Stiller hilariously cheats on his new wife on their honeymoon. But it's all her fault right? Cos "bitches be crazy, you know that" said by his father. Yuk. Then repeats the infidelity with his new partner at the end of the film.

I really hate the Hangover films as well.

Gosh there are lots aren't there? I haven't heard of the Bechdel test before. I shall definitely be applying it from now on though!

AveryJessup Mon 03-Mar-14 04:14:31

Love this thread - it's like an alternative MN feminist Oscars!

It's amazing when you think about it, just how misogynist mainstream Hollywood movies are. Independent cinema is not even all that better but at least there are some female director-trailblazers in indie cinema.

Worst film for me on a feminist basis was 'The Social Network'. Ridiculous parody of the tech start-up scene. The women were all just girlfriends or background scenery, no actual strong female characters. Admittedly Facebook as a company was known to be a boys club in the early days but the film made it seem that the whole of the tech world is a boys club. I know women who are programmers and engineers and who have started their own companies. There are plenty of women working at top levels here in Silicon Valley and they hold their own. The way the tech world was depicted in that film would put any young woman off a career in tech for life. It was unnecessary too, just seemed like a deliberate attempt to belittle the role of women in the tech industry.

sleepywombat Mon 03-Mar-14 04:54:34

I was about to say 'The Ugly Truth'. Awful. Cringeworthy.

VeggySausage Mon 03-Mar-14 09:10:13

Can't believe nobody has already mentioned Twilight. Gives me the rage! The books are worse though.

To be fair, I think most of knew watching it in the first pace would raise blood pressure and gave it a miss! grin

For similar reasons I don't plan on watching 50 Shades when it comes out....

LyndaCartersBigPants Mon 03-Mar-14 09:52:05

Morris, I quite liked the Diane Keaton one when I saw it as a teenager!

Disregarding the fact that no sensible mother would 'leave her baby in her will' to someone she'd never met, the fact that in the end Keaton managed to look after the baby and also start up and run her own successful business was quite inspiring to me as a young woman.

wol1968 Tue 04-Mar-14 14:21:34

The Diane Keaton one, wasn't it called 'Baby Boom'? I never saw it, never wanted to.

MorrisZapp Wed 05-Mar-14 13:33:20

Yup, that was it. Baby Boom. Bloody awful. Think she ended up starting a Red-tastic baby food company from her kitchen table. Oh joy.

GoshAnneGorilla Wed 05-Mar-14 22:03:41

The Devil Wears Prada.

Hated the way her boyfriend demeaned her job, yet was allowed to work round the clock for his. As if his job was so much more meaningful than hers, when he was a chef.

Vintagecakeisstillnice Thu 06-Mar-14 23:27:16

Any film where they have men dressing as women for shit and giggles. Like Big Momma etc

Gross on so many levels.

HazleNutt Fri 07-Mar-14 14:38:33

Yes, Baby Boom.
Because if you have a successful career then of course you are dead inside and secretly unsatisfied. All they really need is a baby. Now, now, of course you cannot have both career and a baby, you're a woman. But don't worry, you don't want that silly old career any more anyway, you now have a baby! So you will be soooo much happier sitting at home, decorating cakes or making jam. That's what all women really want.

Oh and if someone offers you millions to buy your little business, of course you would turn it down. Who needs money anyway?

cassie1051 Sat 08-Mar-14 22:05:57

Urgh Anchorman!

cassie1051 Sat 08-Mar-14 22:07:30

Urgh Anchorman!

UnknownGnome Sat 08-Mar-14 22:44:48

I found Friends With Kids awful.

A couple childless couple are the envy of their friends at the beginning of the film because they have sex in public bathrooms hmm Inevitably she gets pregnant and the sex wanes, as does their relationship.

There is a conversation between two male characters bemoaning the fact that sex is sparse. One confide that it's been a month shock Cue disbelief from his friend.

Oh, and there's a charming conversation between a male and (pregnant) female in which he discusses how childbirth will ruin future sexual encounters because her vagina will be stretched.

Oh, and there's this whole 'will they/won't they' 'suspense' running through the film. She pluck up the courage to admit her feelings to him. He dismisses and humiliate her. She then gets her life on track and he decides that actually he does want her. One big grand gesture later and she falls into his arms. Aah, how i love a happy ending hmm

Its been over a year since i saw the film and thankfully some of the memories have faded but i remember how angry i felt for days after watching it.

furlinedsheepskinjacket Sat 08-Mar-14 23:06:58

oh god

pretty much every film ever made

Astarael Sun 09-Mar-14 21:23:12

Frasier - There is a big running joke about how easy Ros is and how many men she has slept with but Frasier sleeps with someone new nearly every episode but we are supposed to feel sorry for him as he is just looking for love!

UnknownGnome Sun 09-Mar-14 21:42:40

I've recently realised, after watching re-runs of Friends, how many casual references they make to porn and strippers. Both seem to be a completely normal part of life. And a 'good wife' is one who buys her dh porn for valentines dayhmm

HazleNutt Mon 10-Mar-14 09:53:47

I was yelling at TV when watching the last episodes of Friends. So Rachel's boss does not appreciate her and fires her without any hesitation, only gives her the job back because Ross bribes him. Rachel, who is really excited about the career move and going to Paris gives that all up for a guy with whom they had a massively dysfunctional relationship that will probably break up again in the next 2 weeks. And that's an happy ending?

Olivegirl Mon 10-Mar-14 10:06:59

I know everyone seemed to love this film , but "mamma Mia " was horrendous to watch
All those silly women dancing around in dungarees and the story line was so weak ....
My mum watched it at the cinema three times
So I thought it must be good as we usually like similar things.... Never been in a cinema where I just wanted to leave before ..

NotCitrus Mon 10-Mar-14 10:43:13

I don't get to the cinema much but saw the Lego Movie last week. Which was great in many ways, really funny and I really enjoyed it. Until I realised the practically total absence of female characters in a film where there's no reason not to have female characters (historical films, military movies - makes sense to have them mainly male. Lego characters assembling Lego - WHY???)

It only scrapes through the Bechdel test if you assume the Unikitty unicorn/cat creature is female. Why couldn't the kid or the parent be female? Or the astronaut or someone?

Friends is just shit in every possible way. My housemates wouldn't let me in the room when it was on as I'd start shouting KILL! KILL! at the telly...

LyndaCartersBigPants Mon 10-Mar-14 17:33:22

I watched the lego movie yesterday and was heartened when the female character came on kicking ass. However, when she then changed into her bodice and skirt combo and the lead character zoned out while she was talking because he fancied her, I felt a bit let down.

In fairness, if they'd made the mum the bad guy, being all about work & seriousness, it would have sparked a whole other debate about working mums, so thankfully that wasn't the case.

But I agree a few more female lego figures wouldn't have gone amiss. Wonder Woman is fab (as my name suggests!) but there weren't many others, were there.

I watched Frankie and Johnny the other night after reading this thread. I'd remembered it as a love story but seeing it now it was awful, cringey, pervy, stalkery behaviour!

Deathraystare Wed 23-Apr-14 22:02:02

That film with Meryl Streep. Can't reember the male lead. One of the Baldwins?? Where they split up because of his behaviour and get back together. Him being totoally smug allthe way through. UUuuurgh!

Pretty Woman also.

Though I did laugh at What women want i still felt uneasy at times.

I also hated dirty dancing. I just hated the character Baby. How could someone look that old be called baby??!!! Did not enjoy the film at all.

GatoradeMeBitch Fri 25-Apr-14 22:57:57

I think Disney is trying to raise its game - Brave, Lilo & Stitch and Frozen are all films I'd watch with my nieces.

(I remember some random guy on DigitalSpy getting in a froth that Brave starred a positive female protagonist "I won't be taking my sons to see THAT!!")

GatoradeMeBitch Fri 25-Apr-14 23:02:33

The thing that bothered me most about Dirty Dancing was its effect on Jennifer Grey. She was affected by people saying she had a big nose and wasn't get enough for Swayze's character she got plastic surgery and now looks like a completely different person. It pretty much killed her career too.

Redcoats Fri 25-Apr-14 23:20:02

I can't remember the name of the film, Channing Tatum is in it. His wife is in a car crash and has amnesia, doesn't remember anything including why she hasn't spoken to her parents for years. She finds out her dad had an affair and she didn't speak to her mum because it was all her fault for some readon.
Up till then its a fairly typical romcom, but I'm thinking wtf?

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