Feminism funded by the Rockefellers to break up marriage and family

(183 Posts)
Organic100 Thu 15-Aug-13 13:56:46

For many years I always knew deep down that feminism had an agenda. It was obvious to me that it was a man hate movement, masquerading as equality. But not so long ago I discovered, from a man who use to be friends with one of the Rockefellers, that the Rockefellers funded feminism in the 1960's for the purpose of creating a battle of the sexes, to get women into work so they could be taxed, and to cause conflict between the genders. They wanted fathers out the way and wanted to make women independent. But when you think about it, many women today are dependent on the state. If many women are dependent on the state, then they're not really independent are they? What the Rockefellers wanted was to make women dependent on the state instead of their husbands. Look up on google, "How the Rockefellers re-engineered women."

SinisterSal Thu 15-Aug-13 13:58:27


YoniTime Thu 15-Aug-13 14:05:46

If I identify as a feminist, can I get some funding too?

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:06:11

Ha ha ha. It talks about Satanism in the same thing.

Am sure the Rockefellers are entirely responsible for this man hating feminism thinggrin

Female emancipation started in the middle of the 19th century. Perhaps the Rockefellers started that too

SinisterSal Thu 15-Aug-13 14:06:58

You will have to apply through the medium of chemtrails or secret coded crop circles

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:08:25

Where's my bloody cheque then?

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:08:40

Man hate movement grin grin. Are you drunk op?

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:09:49

HQ you CANNOT delete this thread. There's nothing on telly and I should be ironing. This is perfect.

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:11:24

Do you think the op is a <whisper> a*man*.

LurcioLovesFrankie Thu 15-Aug-13 14:12:27

OP, are you sure it was the rockerfellers? I thought it was giant lizards from outer space. Dungaree-wearing, rad fem giant lizards, obviously.

SinisterSal Thu 15-Aug-13 14:13:23

the Rockefellers invented the CIA and they were ultimately behind 911 not to mention abandoning the gold standard.

Inventing a war between the genders is only a smoke screen to distract us form the New World Order

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:13:51

Ooh look the op has a friend

OneHolyCow Thu 15-Aug-13 14:14:04

please say something else.. I'm ever so keen to learn more!

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:14:34

It's too soon to get into the lizard people. Lets let this simmer for a bit

OneHolyCow Thu 15-Aug-13 14:14:49

Yes yes, thanks!

How about the moon landing??

EldritchCleavage Thu 15-Aug-13 14:15:37

Go Rockefellers.

Now, can we get the Mellons to fund racial equality?

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:15:50

HA HA HA HA. I Thought New Order were a band from the 80's. Oh ...hang on...*New World Order*. Are you really David Ickes

MooncupGoddess Thu 15-Aug-13 14:15:51

Gosh, how exciting! I'm going to send the Rockefeller Foundation a card to say thank you.

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:16:42

This is great...waiting with baited breath.....

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:17:02

This is marvellous

Apparently ms magazine was funded by the CIA


I think the rockefellers might have been lizard people too.

RippingYarns Thu 15-Aug-13 14:18:35

Just as my day hurtled towards tedium - a gift.

Thank you!

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:18:43

Rich Lizards mind....

LurcioLovesFrankie Thu 15-Aug-13 14:18:56

damn, did I peak too early? Sorry everyone. If it's too early for lizards from outer space, could I maybe have a small newt from neighbouring county conspiracy theory? Just a leetle one?

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:19:33

The CIA with a hidden Marxist agenda no less

Someone forgot to tell McCarthy clearly

ArtemisKelda Thu 15-Aug-13 14:20:42

grin Lurcio

EldritchCleavage Thu 15-Aug-13 14:21:46

What was in it for the Rockefellers, OP, just as a matter of interest?

HappyJustToBe Thu 15-Aug-13 14:22:25

OP, please don't distract me. I'm supposed to be working.

grimbletart Thu 15-Aug-13 14:23:25

He he he

Feminists were responsible for World War 2, 9/11, the Japanese tsunami and global warming. Fact.

CaptChaos Thu 15-Aug-13 14:24:25

Surely as a new feminist I deserve a 'golden hello' from the dungaree wearing giant space lizard radfems?

Just to clarify, are we as women now supposed to be dependent on the state? I'm only asking so that I know whether it's worth applying for my next degree, not much point being an over-qualified state dependent, now, is there?

Organic100 Thu 15-Aug-13 14:24:45

No matter how much people laugh and snigger, the truth is quickly spreading and men are not as stupid as what the feminists think they are. Do you think being in denial is going to stop the truth getting out lol?

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:25:50


Please explain why the rockefellers would be interested in perpetuating an apparently Marxist agenda to destabilise society?

CaptChaos Thu 15-Aug-13 14:26:00

Oh god Lurcio don't mention newts, the conspiracy theorists will claim to have been turned into them. (and got better)

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:26:53

This is priceless grin I am a feminist, ergo all men are stupid

CogDat Thu 15-Aug-13 14:29:36

Christ, I had to sit next to someone at a wedding last week who was going on about stuff like this. I don't need it on Mumsnet too.

grimbletart Thu 15-Aug-13 14:29:38

men are not as stupid as what the feminists think they are.

Even if grammatically challenged.....

HappyJustToBe Thu 15-Aug-13 14:30:25

men are not as stupid as what the feminists think they are


Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:30:26


This is beyond hilarious. Particularly The Lord of the rings style heroic figure with flapping cloak. Please read. It will save the op the trouble of trying to become coherent (not that the link is coherent, but it will save him a copy and paste)

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa Thu 15-Aug-13 14:31:46

I heard they put stuff in the water to make women hairier.

Read it on a website.

I am not as stupid as them what think I is.


TheUnstoppableWindmill Thu 15-Aug-13 14:34:30

Come on Lurcio, the Rockerfellas ARE the lizards! Them and our Royal Family, of course.

EldritchCleavage Thu 15-Aug-13 14:34:56

*...for a woman, love is an instinctive act of self-sacrifice.

She gives herself to her husband and children and is fulfilled by seeing them thrive and receiving their love, respect and gratitude.

A woman makes this supreme sacrifice to only one man who will cherish her and provide for his family. Men instinctively want to fulfill this responsibility...*

Must tell that lot over in Relationships, will save them endless bother.

LurcioLovesFrankie Thu 15-Aug-13 14:35:21

The minor royals are definitely only newts, windmill. I read so on t'internet.

TheUnstoppableWindmill Thu 15-Aug-13 14:36:00

Damn, sorry, thread moved on before I refreshed the page...

grimbletart Thu 15-Aug-13 14:39:40

That guy Makow has even better sites. Love the one about how the Burka is the most liberating thing ever for women.

I think he must have been dropped on his head as a baby. Makow I mean, not Organic. Though hang on a minute.....

TheUnstoppableWindmill Thu 15-Aug-13 14:40:35

Oh. Apparently I am "pathetically giving my body to all and sundry?" Where are they all? Can anyone tell me where to find the sundry? (from that rense.com link)

Organic100 Thu 15-Aug-13 14:44:41

The Rockefellers knew that empowering women would lead to a decline in marriage and strong family units. I guess they were right smile

hotair Thu 15-Aug-13 14:45:50

I'd love some of the rockefeller's money to fund my feminism, hell knowing that our future newt overlords are pro-equality makes me feel much better about the inevitable take over! where do I sign up?

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:46:03

Yes, on one of his sites it states The Jewish religion and Freemasonary are responsible for this terrible modern culture....with bits of Lucifer thrown in. < disclaimer he talks about Lucifer, these are not my words!>

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:47:21

But why would the Rockefellers be interested in a decline in family and marriage? Please explain this to me

TheCrackFox Thu 15-Aug-13 14:48:03

Does anyone have an address do that I can invoice the Rockerfellers? TIA

DameFanny Thu 15-Aug-13 14:48:44

Ha ha! Made my afternoon grin

SconeRhymesWithGone Thu 15-Aug-13 14:49:08

What about Andrew Carnegie? He founded a lot of free libraries so that poor people could read books. Some of them were likely women. Surely Carnegie must take some of the responsibility.

StrangeGlue Thu 15-Aug-13 14:50:49

You get a cheque to be a feminist! jacks in job and awaits briefcase of bullion

OP how much do I get? Will I have spare change to give as a sacrifice to the lizard gods or will I have to give myself to them all the sundry?

Must tell dh that I can't be a feminist and married... I think he might be a bit sad

Oh, great.

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:51:25

Anyway, good for the Rockefellers is what I say! Nice to know we have some of the richest people in the world on our side.

OddBoots Thu 15-Aug-13 14:51:38

Oh heaven forbid that the little women would actually be able to make decisions for themselves, it had to be men behind it or the whole of nature would be turned on its head, right? hmm

I'd love to hear your suggestions for how we should progress to true equality for all.

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 14:52:14

I still want to know why rich people would want to create an army of welfare dependants

KateCroydon Thu 15-Aug-13 14:57:24

Oh I love a good conspiracy theory. My favorite so far are the Lyndon La Roche lot - they think that the Queen & the Fabians secretly run the world and Obama is a Nazi for bringing in healthcare reform. This one is almost as nutty.

mignonette Thu 15-Aug-13 14:57:42

If you skate around Rockefeller plaza anticlockwise, a giant black hole opens up and transports female skaters back to the 1950's where they can be de-programmed of all their uppitty ways.

Just to warn.....

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 14:59:47

Op has posted some words of wisdom on the " He won't get married thread"....

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 15:04:01

Ooh please link

SugarandSpice126 Thu 15-Aug-13 15:05:11

"men are not as stupid as what the feminists think they are."

This is comedy gold. Keep posting OP!!! Fantastic.

orangeandemons Thu 15-Aug-13 15:05:51
AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom Thu 15-Aug-13 15:07:12

He may be funny here, but it's less so on one of the mental health threads he is currently playing on...

HappyJustToBe Thu 15-Aug-13 15:19:09

I'm really confused now. I'm a feminist. I'm employed. I'm also happily married to my stupid man husband. Am I supposed to leave?

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 15:26:00

Report him Amanda

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 15:40:24

Thanks for the heads up, OP. I'm a massive feminist, but I'm finding these bras won't burn themselves. It would be great to have the help of a shadowy international conspiracy to get some of my basic goals achieved:

1) Destroy all underwear.
2) Destroy marriage.
3) Destroy MANkind.
4) Repair OP's grammar.

So how does this work? Do I send a stamped addressed envelope to The Rockefellers or will they just appear at my door if I play Tracey Chapman really loudly and waggle an unshorn leg out the door?

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 15:44:47

Arf at play Tracy chapman

grimbletart Thu 15-Aug-13 16:05:34

I am such a failed feminist. Husband and I celebrate our golden wedding in two years' time. So sorry sisterhood. sad Perhaps Oracle can tell me where I have gone wrong. Oracle?

YoniTime Thu 15-Aug-13 16:19:23

I also want to know why the Rockefellas wanted to destroy "marriage and family."

YoniTime Thu 15-Aug-13 16:28:37

I tried to find something on google and found this. www.rockefella.se/aw12/
It must be their homepage...but they seem quite childfriendly...

Also wow new icon! Haven't seen this one before! cakecakecake

AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom Thu 15-Aug-13 17:34:17

I have Chub smile

TeiTetua Thu 15-Aug-13 17:53:20

"these bras won't burn themselves"--so you need to apply some flammable liquid, and where did the Rockefellers make their money? OIL, that's where! You pay them when you're a slave, and pay them again when you think you're becoming free.

Stands to reason, dunnit.

FrigginRexManningDay Thu 15-Aug-13 18:14:18

Is anyone else thinking.....

Right about now,the funk soul brother,check it out now,the funk soul brother.

Nothing else to add grin.

vesuvia Thu 15-Aug-13 18:20:16

Why has it taken until now for us to be told about the Rockefellers and feminism?

Will the patriarchy sue itself for compensation?

Even before 1920, 16% of employees of the Rockefeller Institute were women. Shock horror! Could this mean that the Rockefellers "invented" feminism long before the 1960s? How did the patriarchy fail to see the warning signs? They were there for all to see.

Did the Rockefellers also invent communism, to make their capitalism look good?

We need answers to these questions. Perhaps a public enquiry, a royal commission or a senate hearing? Justice delayed is justice denied!

YoniTime Thu 15-Aug-13 18:41:11

One of the Rockefeller's earliest acts must had been to help print Christine de Pizan's The Book of the City of Ladies in 1405.

Blistory Thu 15-Aug-13 18:48:44

Rockefellers ? Pfft, couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

The real Overlords and Overladies don't share their plans with the little people.......

Pachacuti Thu 15-Aug-13 18:57:40

I'm a feminist. Where do I apply for my grant?

Mind you, I'm also happily married to a man, so I'm probably failing the man hate thing. Perhaps that's why I haven't got the cash yet. Or maybe grimbletart nabbed it all in the 1960s when it was first up for grabs <spreads dissension in the feminist ranks>.

I am on a stipend from our alien lizard overlords, though. So you're partly right.

grimbletart Thu 15-Aug-13 19:57:44

Where's Oracle gone? Has he been kidnapped by an alien lizard? Or did the Rockefellers put a contract out on him?

Blistory Thu 15-Aug-13 20:12:15

The Goddess got him.

Organic100 Thu 15-Aug-13 20:15:36

The Rockefellers funded feminism by making sure it got all over the news papers. The agenda was to create a battle of the sexes and to get women into work so they could be taxed. Don't worry. On judgment day feminism will be cast into hell smile

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 20:30:28

Aw. That's sad, Organic.

Still, burning bras won't be a problem in hell. Silver lining and all that.

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 20:32:00

Why is it a bad thing for women to pay taxes?

Pachacuti Thu 15-Aug-13 20:34:58

That would be a marvellous theory, Organic, if women hadn't been working for millennia. Look at any agricultural neighbourhood before the end of the nineteenth century and the working-class women are all... well... working. (as are most of the children). The same went for the cities post-Industrial Revolution -- women and children generally worked. The idea of a wife at home managing the house and children but not being economically active was a very short-lived experiment in the early-mid twentieth century. And even then women worked in traditional "male" occupations during the First and Second World Wars. Creating feminism just to get women into work, when (apart from the social elite) that had been their default mode of existence throughout most of human history, seems a bit daft/pointless.

Also, could you clear up whether the agenda was to tax women (so that they contributed to the public purse) or to push them onto welfare (so that they took money out of the public purse)? You've claimed both at various points in your posts.

Boosterseat Thu 15-Aug-13 20:39:43

They don't appear to have a uk office so this is close enough.

we want our my money

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa Thu 15-Aug-13 20:40:58

Well, if Heaven is reserved for the sexists, I can't wait to dance down south in the heat with the red one himself grin

Or herself...guaranteed the Devil is a woman, eh OP? wink

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa Thu 15-Aug-13 20:42:42

Tesco used to do a gorgeous Rockafeller cake.

New symbol = cake

It's all coming together.

Somehow confused

Boosterseat Thu 15-Aug-13 20:44:55

Excuse the weird link title, had a few wine, saw the original post but didn't read on as knew I would enjoy this loads better intoxicated.


TondelayoSchwarzkopf Thu 15-Aug-13 20:45:47

Hang on:

Rockefeller Plaza
30 Rockefeller Plaza
30 Rock
Tina Fey - A WOMAN!!!!


Coincidence? I think so not

PS: loving the OP's use of smileys.

FrigginRexManningDay Thu 15-Aug-13 20:47:27

Pachacuti Sure these Wiley feminists have got Organic all confused what with their evil working.
Maybe the reason women may depend on welfare is because employment is not geared towards those who have young children and in the event of a marriage/partnership break down the majority of women (speaking of my own country,Ireland) have the children the majority of the time,thus making employment difficult and the poverty trap worse.

FRMD, stop with the reasoned arguments.

I am a failed feminist, I too am married to a man. I actually quite like him. I quite like lots of men (not in the same way as I like DH, he gets a bit upset if I do and tries to break out of the kitchen)

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Thu 15-Aug-13 20:53:12

Did the Rockefellers want women dependent on the state or did they want women to PAY taxes?

Which is it? At least apply some internal logic to your weird fantasies.

FrigginRexManningDay Thu 15-Aug-13 20:57:56

glen you are right,why was I trying to apply logic to nonsense grin.
I am married to a man too but its only out of spite so I can berate him with feminist rants in the hopes that his balls shrivel up and fall off in despair.

Pachacuti Thu 15-Aug-13 21:01:09

Were the Rockefellers also responsible for the women's suffrage movement? If so, (a) why did they kick back and have a bit of a holiday before kicking off feminism as a whole later on in the 20th century (b) how the heck did they get to eighteenth-century Sweden? (c) why did they have such a thing about the Isle of Man, which most Americans haven't even heard of?

LurcioLovesFrankie Thu 15-Aug-13 21:13:45

I do want to thank the OP for a real shift in Overton Window. Ever since I peaked too early (fnarr) with the lizard thing, I've felt really upset and inadequate, and (by way of compensation) it's led to an almost overwhelming urge to keep posting things like "what about the lizardz", or to "newtsplain" things. It's been a real eye-opener into the ishoos men/lizards/newts/rockerfellers/common-or-garden misogynists/the illuminati (delete as applicable) struggle with on a daily basis.

lissieloo Thu 15-Aug-13 21:15:17


bless 'em.

Chubfuddler Thu 15-Aug-13 21:22:04


What about the lizardz

My sides actually hurt

That is so passing into FWR lexicon

RubyrooUK Thu 15-Aug-13 21:38:33

But wait....apparently the Rockefellers also wanted to microchip the population. Perhaps they succeeded. Imagine that, OP.....microchipped robot feminists...WE ARE EVERYWHERE.

Well I'm still waiting for my special feminist shears that I was promised, you know, the ones for lopping off WILLLLIIEEEEES! The lizards were LYING about those, weren't they? They went awful quiet when I took my tinfoil hat off, as well.

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 22:06:39

I think Organic may have been called back to the fathership.


AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom Thu 15-Aug-13 22:10:16

Or his mum wanted the laptop back...

RubyrooUK Thu 15-Aug-13 22:10:34

I miss him/it already. sad

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 22:14:27

Me, too, Ruby.

This day shall stay in my heart as Rockefella-feminist-conspiracy-feminists-burn-in-hell-on-judgement-day Day.


Organic100 Thu 15-Aug-13 22:15:27

As expected, no intelligent response lol. Typical feminists.

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 22:17:05


AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom Thu 15-Aug-13 22:18:24

Awww, you came back

Earthworms Thu 15-Aug-13 22:18:36


Ahahahahahah hahaha

<holds sides>

Fucking brilliant. I shall have to use newtsplaining somehow in a conversation tomorrow.

LurcioLovesFrankie Thu 15-Aug-13 22:21:18

No, Organic, you've got it all wrong (patronising tone of voice, masterful wag of finger). Typical feminists = no sense of humour (duh!).

(Did you see that I just did a nice bit of newtsplaining there?)

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 22:22:53

Wimmin iz thick an shit, tho lol

Pachacuti Thu 15-Aug-13 22:26:07

Because "lol" is the height of intelligent discourse, obviously.

You've had plenty of intelligent responses. The fact that you can't tell that is... well... not entirely surprising.

FreyaSnow Thu 15-Aug-13 22:28:05

To be fair, I don't have enough knowledge to comment on this. I don't even know the difference between Lucifer and Satan, much less be able to weigh up their relative contributions to feminism. I need more information than the the links have provided so far.

RubyrooUK Thu 15-Aug-13 22:31:21

I didn't give an intelligent response. There wasn't anything intelligent posted by Organic100 to respond to.

tribpot Thu 15-Aug-13 22:32:26

This thread is ridiculous. Everyone knows it was the Romanovs who invented feminism and that's why the Russian Revolution happened. Also I bet Opus Dei had a hand in it, they usually do.

Mary Wollstonecraft is practically an anagram of Rockefeller - the facts are as plain as day, people.

RubyrooUK Thu 15-Aug-13 22:32:28

Lol. grin

caramelwaffle Thu 15-Aug-13 22:33:05

Made my day this has grin

Am off to Poundland for the tinfoil hats, laydees.
Who needs wants one?

I know my place.



AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom Thu 15-Aug-13 22:33:17

Are Lucifer and Satan different?

grimbletart Thu 15-Aug-13 22:35:09

I think Oracle mustered a D in an A level today and it's gone to his head poor lamb.

tribpot Thu 15-Aug-13 22:35:27

I imagine as reformed feminists we should probably wear foil bonnets rather than hats? Hats sound a bit masculine.

caramelwaffle Thu 15-Aug-13 22:38:01

That's an excellent idea tribot.

Bonnets, not hats.

But remember - don't be having too many ideas.
It may...turn you. Uppity thing you.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Thu 15-Aug-13 22:39:15

the truth is quickly spreading and men are not as stupid as what the feminists think they are.

Can we nominate for quote of the week? Just too funny.

My car was scratched the other night. I know it was a feminist what did it.

And whoever picked my rather lovely peonies from the front garden? Feminist. <taps nose>

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 22:40:06

You're right, trip. And muzzles. We do too much fucking talking. And thinking.

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 22:41:46

It is quote of the century.

tribpot Thu 15-Aug-13 22:49:21

No more ideas from me, I'm back to my campaign to stop women voting. It's against nature.

Organic100 Thu 15-Aug-13 22:57:12

What's funny is that when Rockefeller admitted to funding feminism for their own agenda, he was laughing his socks off--at how dumb the feminists were to fall for it. The Elite see feminists as useful idiots, not as intelligent strong women. So while the feminists laugh at "conspiracy theorists," the Elite laugh at how dumb the feminists are to fall for it.

CaptChaos Thu 15-Aug-13 23:01:27

What's the weather like on your planet?

I can't see from under the large brim of my fetching new tin foil bonnet.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Thu 15-Aug-13 23:08:18

dumb is wot we feminists iz. We'z so stoooopid. Can't a man come on and explain it all to me? <smiles coquettishly>

cake anyone?

Sheshelob Thu 15-Aug-13 23:12:59

Oooo! Are you The Elite? Do you have a monogrammed bathrobe and a well-coiffed lizard ruff?

EldritchCleavage Thu 15-Aug-13 23:22:39

I've skimmed the links. I want to know what on earth (or possibly, some other planet) happened to that Russo bloke between directing Trading Places and directing that America From Freedom to Fascism bollocks.

MiniTheMinx Thu 15-Aug-13 23:40:00

Organic100 doing a few searches turns up some info about Gloria Steinmen that suggests that she was in the pay of the CIA. It should be noted that also at this time the CIA owned approx 200 news/media companies across the globe.

"In 1958, Steinem was recruited by CIA´s Cord Meyers to direct an "informal group of activists" called the "Independent Research Service." This was part of Meyer´s "Congress for Cultural Freedom," which created magazines like "Encounter" and "Partisan Review" to promote a left-liberal chic to oppose Marxism"

I'm going to buck the trend on this thread and suggest that what happened at the end of the 60's in response to the civil rights movement which was essentially marxist/communist, is that the capitalist class/politicians/states/bankers (incl Rockefella and several other trusts) realised that neo-lib economics combined with media support for single issue identity politics would ensure that we fought amongst ourselves. Single issue politics whether it be liberal feminism, gay rights or race equality is beneficial to capitalism. We can campaign and talk about everything and anything except one thing......class

I think this helps to explain why capitalism has subsumed into itself all the gains made in the 60s. I would also add that the biggest beneficiaries of the feminisation of labour has been the capitalist, not women. Under advanced capitalism the assault upon what it is to even be a women and the commodification of women is certainly not something that feminists in the late 60's were fighting to achieve.

So a fairer analysis might conclude that liberal feminism under the protection of liberalism & neo-liberalism has been pushed into the mainstream as a way of defanging and de-radicalising feminism and creating divisions within left wing politics.

Every time the OP disappears, it's because he's run off into the bathroom with his ruler and his magnifying glass. Because the reason for his desperate attempt to Speak Da Troof is the same one that drives all misogynists - obsessive anxiety about his willy, and the fear that we are going to shrink it.
Oh yes we are, mate.

vesuvia Fri 16-Aug-13 00:55:02

Why would a capitalist like Rockefeller care how much money a government received in tax? Capitalists want women to work so that they can spend money on products sold to them by capitalists.

Secretswitch Fri 16-Aug-13 01:08:15

Damn, I've been giving my feminism away for free all these years..

I'm confused. Probably because I am a poor, stupid feminist. Can I be a feminist, married to a man, be a lizard and receive free money? I want it all.

eccentrica Fri 16-Aug-13 02:05:20

I think I might be a lizard. how can I tell?

FrigginRexManningDay Fri 16-Aug-13 08:00:28

That's what got us here Terry so shut up and go make your husband a sandwich.

Pachacuti Fri 16-Aug-13 08:42:00

How many eyelids do you have, eccentrica?

Can't possibly be the Rockafellas, just look at their name... Rock-a fella. No, no, that's clearly all kinds of wrong.

Organic100 Fri 16-Aug-13 09:56:55

I always knew feminists were not the brightest of sparks, but I never knew they were this dumb lol.

Pachacuti Fri 16-Aug-13 10:00:09

Lol indeed, Organic. We are truly fortunate to have you here patiently explaining things to us.

Organic you might care to consult a dictionary and look up the following: sarcasm, witticism, parody. Off you go then. Do let us know how you get on dear.

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 10:08:27

Another here to thank Organic for helping her realise the error of her ways, with just one thread from your fine self I have totally re-evaluated my value and belief system in order to fully service my husband.

Throws down briefcase, storms out of board meeting and goes to find a pinny and make rounds of teeney tiny finger sandwiches with the crusts cut off how he likes 'em

Oh and I will bake a cake too

Pachacuti Fri 16-Aug-13 10:12:32

But apparently you're supposed to make the "supreme sacrifice", Boosterseat. Is there not a bullet somewhere you could throw yourself in front of? After you've made the cake, obviously.

lissieloo Fri 16-Aug-13 10:14:48

Didn't, not never. Now run along, grown ups are working here!

Minitheminx, I think I love you.

MiniTheMinx Fri 16-Aug-13 10:21:04

>Why would a capitalist like Rockefeller care how much money a government received in tax?

Seems odd does it not, if Rockefeller "ruled" the world you would see something deliberate, instead we see banks and business, economists and neo-libers calling for a small state with little taxation, whilst simultaneously stoking up nationalism because capitalism falls on its face when the state doesn't act to protect it. I suspect that most uber wealthy people want the plebs to pay tax because they want to avoid underwriting the expense of the state, a state that exists to serve their interests. Do they care how much tax? no of course not, only that WE pay it and NOT them.

I'm sure that most activism is either infiltrated or underwritten by shadow states or the likes of the Rockefellas, this isn't new and has been happening since the 50's.

Just look at this government of corporate cock sucking puppets, Gove goes on holiday with the man commissioned to bin packed lunches, Landsley chummy with American insurance companies long before the coalition took charge, Osborne's family benefiting from fracking.....and that's just what we know about. That's a conspiracy, a conspiracy against us, where the capitalist class act to control, create and perpetuate a consensus in the mainstream that allows even the most crooked anti-democratic behaviour to go unchecked. I'm not a theorist but anything pushed to the margins in this debate is "conspiracy" whereas the conspiracy to control and exploit the masses is fact, within mainstream discourse this analysis is conspiracy theory. Why?

But Ho Hum, Organic is simply here to attack women, as if feminism is a special case, that shows just how misogynist he is because he could have chosen any number of single issue groups to attack.

HungryGeorge Fri 16-Aug-13 10:38:51

I suspect poor Organic has had difficulty finding the kind of woman he wants, who will service his needs however peculiar they are.. so he's come to try and convince us that we need to conform to the 'little woman' role

Bwahahaha I wish him luck with that grin

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 11:03:20

Blood and sand! Now Im going to have to take a bullet for him.

Meh, scars are sexy anyway.

HungryGeorge Fri 16-Aug-13 11:25:26

We'll play the last post in your honour boosterseat

LurcioLovesFrankie Fri 16-Aug-13 11:27:22

You'd better, Boosterseat, or I'll have to send you a special cupcake decorated with white feathers. Made from marzipan, of course. With just a tiny bit of white wine vinegar to keep the royal icing really white. (See, FWR threads with cake-decorating hints. What could be more in keeping with the Rocker-lizard agenda?)

Lanceolate Fri 16-Aug-13 11:31:06

It's a refreshing change from the usual anti feminist threads.

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 11:31:15

It has been an honor and a privilege to stand alongside you ladies, alas i must leave to enter lifelong servitude and bask in the maternal glow of my sacrifice before throwing myself in front of a bullet whilst declaring "remove your pubic hair girls, its the only way to keep him happy...."

What a legacy.

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 11:36:20
Organic100 Fri 16-Aug-13 11:47:21

As I can see there still hasn't been any intelligent responses. Just a load of sloppy elephant dung. It's terrifying to think that feminists actually get the right to vote.

Oh, you're back. I hope you've changed your pants since last night.

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 11:53:46

Organic chill and have some cake

BTW, we save our intelligent posts for intelligent people.

LurcioLovesFrankie Fri 16-Aug-13 11:55:23

No. Please SGB, don't make me thing about his underwear. Urgh. [Blunders around frantically searching for the brain bleach. Trips over leftover heap of marzipan. Frightens pet newt half to death by nearly landing on it.]

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Fri 16-Aug-13 11:58:30

Well, Organic, an unintelligent OP tends to generate erm... pisstaking responses.

sloppy elephant dung in = sloppy elephant dung out.

Bluestocking Fri 16-Aug-13 11:58:41

No no no, OP, you've got it all wrong. The Rockefellers are timetravelling lizard people; they went back to the early twentieth century and shot Archduke Ferdinand, which went against the grain as he was a lizard person too, but which was necessary to start WW1, which propelled women into the workforce in unprecedented numbers, giving the little minxes a taste for independence and their own money.

Organic100 Fri 16-Aug-13 12:01:48

Well, I'm out of here. Too much stupidity lol. I'll leave you feminists to spew more nonsense among yourselves smile

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Fri 16-Aug-13 12:04:08

How is your other thread working out op?

Oh, shame. They've clocked you as well wink

Never mind - love a good conspiracy theorist myself - I can always do with a laugh.

Lanceolate Fri 16-Aug-13 12:04:51

So, the Rockerfellas, the Masons, the Illuminati, Communism, the Vatican, 'organised Jewry', the Lifetime Network and Cosmopolitan magazine all conspired to create feminism. That would be one hell of a meeting.

lifeissweet Fri 16-Aug-13 12:10:25

I'm not married, but I do have a family. What's going on there, then? I also haven't given my body to all and sundry, so I must be getting this wrong somehow. Please help.

Also, my DP claims to be a feminist. Does he hate himself? I don't want him to feel self-loathing because I am naturally self-sacrificing and nurturing.

Bunnylion Fri 16-Aug-13 12:15:20

lifeissweet by "DP claims to be a feminist" - you mean you castrated him, right?

Bluestocking Fri 16-Aug-13 12:28:30

Lanceolate, the catering alone for that meeting would be a nightmare. What do extra-terrestrial lizard people eat anyway?

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Fri 16-Aug-13 12:37:15

Extra terrestrial lizard feminists eat men for breakfast. Yum yum.

EldritchCleavage Fri 16-Aug-13 12:42:29

Oh I don't know re catering. I expect the Communists eat anything, the Cosmo crowd nothing, then that's just meat and potatoes for all except the Jews, who can have bagels and lox.

Or everyone could bring their own lunchboxes.

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 12:48:55

Dont worry Eldritch, everyone can share my cake

AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom Fri 16-Aug-13 12:50:38

What about the veggies?

EldritchCleavage Fri 16-Aug-13 12:53:56

Will it have fondant newts on it Booster?

EldritchCleavage Fri 16-Aug-13 12:54:38

This is a red-blooded and sinister conspiracy, Amanda, there are no veggies.

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 12:56:25

A friend of mine makes a gorgeous vegan chocolate cake, I will ensure I obtain the recipe and bake the cake before shuffling off my mortal coil.

I'm still having trouble locating someone with firearms to shoot me so I can complete my "Ultimate Sacrifice"

I mentioned it to DH and he said my logic was screwed, if I die he will have to make him own bloody sandwiches and he was getting rather excited about crust-less creations.

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 12:57:45
Bluestocking Fri 16-Aug-13 13:25:39

Booster, my redblooded DS would happily pepper you with Nerf darts, if that would help? Love that lizard cake, but I think the lizard people are a neon green!

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 13:28:45
Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 13:29:06

Bless her, she looks so happy that wee lizard!

Bluestocking Fri 16-Aug-13 14:27:56

Now that's what I'm talking about! Cut me a slice and I'll pour the tea.

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 14:35:23

I will serve it up on a silver cake stand and we can all sit around and discuss our knitting patterns.

Bluestocking Fri 16-Aug-13 15:19:57

Come back, OP, we are putting our floral tea dresses on and will be hosting a properly Surrendered tea party. Can't we tempt you?

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 15:31:45

Maybe he isn't hungry.....wink

HungryGeorge Fri 16-Aug-13 15:38:40

Oh I think he's been hungry for quite some time boosterseat ;)
He might have a curry tonight though grin

Boosterseat Fri 16-Aug-13 15:40:53


Hes not the Messiah - hes been a very naughty boy!

HungryGeorge Fri 16-Aug-13 15:43:28

No, he's not the Messiah he thinks he is.. he fell off his pedestal quite painfully

Oh, he'll be crying into his Pot Noodle about now, and contemplating a trip to one of those really horrible stinky pubs with peeling wallpaper, where all the rest of the male failures sit with pints of cheap lager in front of them, whining about how they can't get a shag/a promotion/the points taken off their driving licenses and it's All Feminists' Fault.

CaptChaos Fri 16-Aug-13 20:49:02

Yes, come back OP, the vermin have some things they want to say.

Of course, we vermin will only say it in a cultured and gentle way, because we wouldn't want to damage your delicate male sensibilities.

We will have LOTS of cake. As long as you promise not to fleck it with spittle, it's not naice.

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