just thought I would share this gem with you

(33 Posts)
gaggiagirl Tue 09-Jul-13 10:31:31

I hope I've put this thread in the right place, here goes.
At work I send out letters I won't go into mega detail but these letters have questionnaires attached that are only relevant to women, so we were told to avoid men getting these questionnaires we should look at the persons title.
Written in black and white it says this " send questionnaires to Miss, Ms, Mrs as they are women but not to Mr,Dr or Rev as they are men"
Really? I thought it was 2013 am I wrong?
I've raised this as an issue and the written procedure will be amended.
Just thought I would share that little nugget of bull shit with you all.

FreedomOfTheTess Tue 09-Jul-13 10:51:07

So my SIL (a Dr) is really a man then?!

Wow!

wink

Nice one on getting the policy changed. smile

gaggiagirl Tue 09-Jul-13 11:15:22

Yes freedom she must be, how could you not tell arf!
That procedure was written by a woman too the mind boggles.
Thanks buffy although I'm proably forever marked as a trouble maker now but I just like equality n stuff innit.

AndMiffyWentToSleep Tue 09-Jul-13 11:19:52

That is depressing!

mummytime Tue 09-Jul-13 11:22:32

Oh so me and my SIL are both men (Dr and Rev).

Poledra Tue 09-Jul-13 11:25:38

Another bloke here then. Someone might like to tell my obstetrician that I am a medical miracle and he didn't notice!

Flippancy aside, that's really depressing.

BartyFottom Tue 09-Jul-13 11:35:12

Oooh, so when I complete my PhD I will automatically get a sex change? hmm

PeterParkerSays Tue 09-Jul-13 11:35:24

What about Prof? wink

sonlypuppyfat Tue 09-Jul-13 11:40:09

We had a lady vicar

gaggiagirl Tue 09-Jul-13 12:04:59

Well peter Prof would surely be a man what with being clever and all that! Us women just like kittens and Sparkly shoes.
It is so depressing though isn't it and I've already had my piss boiled this week by someone telling my DD 'blue is for boys and pink is for girls' (incredible hulk emoticon)

BIWI Tue 09-Jul-13 12:06:43

I tweeted a link to your thread to @EverydaySexism, and it's been favourited on Twitter!

It's outrageous that this should happen in this day and age - and that it's by a woman too just beggars belief.

ImNotBloody14 Tue 09-Jul-13 12:10:05

aside from the obvious- that is a really patronising note! the "as they are women" and "as they are men" is as if it's directing children to do it not adults!

where the hell do you work? (not genuinely asking! just shocked at how unreal that whole thing is)

Poledra Tue 09-Jul-13 12:10:51

So what is the procedure being amended to? If they change to 'do not send to Rev, Dr or Prof as it is unclear if they are female', the you risk biasing your sample...

If the database was correctly structured, it would have a field for sex. Then you wouldn't need to guess based on title hmm

...or indeed a field for gender, which would include an option for "other" or summat.

<curses today's fuzzy brain>

ImNotBloody14 Tue 09-Jul-13 12:14:31

in fact the more I think about this the more odd I find it that this was the policy.

surely if you are sending letters to people you have gleaned their info from somewhere, so would have their name, address and probably gender anyway! why was title the thing used? if no gender then surely first name would have been the obvious thing to look at.

is this real?

ImNotBloody14 Tue 09-Jul-13 12:15:15

xposting

TalkativeJim Tue 09-Jul-13 12:20:06

You know when you get your PhD and you get handed what looks like a little scroll? Well it isn't, it's a brand new shiny little penis all of your own, just in case you don't have one.

You just staple it on, start talking bullshit and away to go grin

gaggiagirl Tue 09-Jul-13 12:31:53

Its just a guidance procedure purely for our small office cos we are too thick to find out who is female and who is male thank heavens its just in our small office and its been re typed.

MyHumpsMyLovelyBabyBumps Tue 09-Jul-13 15:23:00

oh my actual god. How shit

PeterParkerSays Wed 10-Jul-13 09:01:43

Really, you and your colleagues have enough brains to check an individual's first name? Fancy that..... grin

Isoscelesnorks Wed 10-Jul-13 12:57:42

ROFL TJ! That's just priceless!

gaggiagirl Wed 10-Jul-13 18:44:11

The woman who wrote it doesn't know what cous cous is (((judgy pants evil laugh))))

Anniegetyourgun Wed 10-Jul-13 20:04:59

I fort it was a fluffy aminal.

SplitHeadGirl Wed 10-Jul-13 20:31:08

Gaggiagirl, you did so well getting that changed!!! I can't believe anyone thought that was ok to begin with!!!

No cous-cous is a type of bird, one of those ones that comes and perches on your finger and does a little harmony thing with you when you are cleaning some weird little cottage that you've wandered into which was filthy and your inherent femaleness has taken over so that you have to clean it.
<And now, back to the real world...>

CoalDustWoman Wed 10-Jul-13 21:13:04

What information is the questionnaire trying to elicit?

gaggiagirl Wed 10-Jul-13 21:30:19

coal the questionairre is a medical one and asks for info on something only women have/get/suffer from, sorry don't want to say too much in case I out myself but its not a relevant questionnaire for men.

MyHumpsMyLovelyBabyBumps Wed 10-Jul-13 21:43:31

I wonder if they don't actually want to risk getting medical women if that's the nature of the questioning,and used that as an excuse. is it a bit dodgy the place you work?

CoalDustWoman Wed 10-Jul-13 21:52:02

What about transwomen? The assumption doesn't fit the law, let alone the titles.

<controversial>

Ask her that, just to see the look on her face.

CoalDustWoman Wed 10-Jul-13 21:53:55

Or post-op transmen? Or women who have had mastectomies/hysterectomies?

gaggiagirl Thu 11-Jul-13 18:50:44

myhumps I feel my place of work is truly dodgy yes but its also one of Europe's largest employers and its similar to working for Satan himself ha ha.

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