Baby outfits designed by porn-sick men.

(48 Posts)
BasilBabyEater Fri 12-Apr-13 23:52:47
tethersend Fri 12-Apr-13 23:55:13

Jesus, who designed that collection? Jimmy Savile?

UnderwaterBasketWeaving Fri 12-Apr-13 23:56:13

They are horrific. Why is there even a market for them?! Do they come with a free SS check?

YoniRanger Sat 13-Apr-13 00:05:07

Gross. hmm

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 00:28:52

Are they 'designed' or is this one of those things where you search 'porn' within baby clothes and it gets all of the (albeit tasteless horrid) slogans in the system and dumps them on the romper suits? As opposed to adult tshirts.

Similar thing on amazon a while ago and an algorithm or something was blamed.

duchesse Sat 13-Apr-13 00:34:08

I agree with Michael. Might still be worth kicking up a fuss though...

tethersend Sat 13-Apr-13 00:34:24

That's got to be it, Michael, surely?

I think children and porn are universally reviled...

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 00:37:10

I searched 'potato' and got a sleep suit with a potato on it. And one with chips saying 'small fry'.

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 00:39:37

Ah yes there you go.

Choose 'baby clothing' in the drop down box to the left of the search box and then add 'porn' to that. (Took me a minute. Had a wine)

Why were you searching for porn in baby clothes OP? Very odd.

tethersend Sat 13-Apr-13 00:42:25

Oh yeah... I just tried it with ashtrays. And nuns. PAGES of results grin

Might be a good idea to point out to the company that some slogans shouldn't be available on baby clothes though.

This one for example :-/

Tortington Sat 13-Apr-13 00:44:34

where does one complain?

Mumcentreplus Sat 13-Apr-13 00:44:41

I don't a toss how it was found..why tha heck is this sickness on children's clothing?

Mumcentreplus Sat 13-Apr-13 00:45:30

forgot to say 'give'..lol between don't and a..

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 00:50:42

You're going to complain to a company that people can enter search terms on their site?

Maybe complain about OP - they're the one searching out grubby baby clothes.

DioneTheDiabolist Sat 13-Apr-13 00:50:57

These outfits are not designed by porn-sick men. They are designed by profiteers.sad. It is not about sexual gratification. It is about profit.

Paedophiles are peadophiles. The market is about money. And if there is money to be made that's ok. Isn't it?

Bessie123 Sat 13-Apr-13 00:52:08

Oh my god, that is disgusting. There is one that says 'world's best porn star'. It is beyond shocking, how repulsive

Startail Sat 13-Apr-13 00:55:18

I bet non of these clothes exist.
They are a t-shirt printing house, like exists in the dodgy end of most towns.

They just stand up all sorts of dodgy slogans so they appear in as may searches as possible.

YoniDaChillOut Sat 13-Apr-13 00:56:09

why were you searching 'porn' and 'romper suits' op? confused

tethersend Sat 13-Apr-13 00:56:54

I think Michael's right, it's an oversight- the site has a number of slogans and a number of items of clothing, and they can be randomly interspersed using the search terms.

They just haven't realised that you can 'design' porn babygros.

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 00:57:22

Startail - I've already tried that one. I expect the professionally offended will ignore our posts and climb onto the bandwagon anyhoo. How do I hide a thread on the iPhone app?! This one might push me over the edge wink

ThingummyBob Sat 13-Apr-13 00:58:07

I agree with Michael.

These products do not exist unless someone orders them, and even then I'm sure someone tried it once and the 'order' did not go through on something offensive.

On the website it simply shows images of the products with the terms of the search you have requested on them.

Bessie123 Sat 13-Apr-13 00:59:54

Doesn't make the company look good though, does it? Daily Fail would love this one, if it didn't hate mn more than anything else

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 01:02:28

I think it makes the person who is searching for PORN in BABY CLOTHES look worse than the company.

Tortington Sat 13-Apr-13 01:03:52

so how does one complain?

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 01:05:32

Look it up Custardo. Shall we write it for you too?

Tortington Sat 13-Apr-13 01:08:54

it was an honest question no need to be a twat about it

Tortington Sat 13-Apr-13 01:12:21

this is the complaints page hope this is helpful

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 01:16:43

Complaining about a product that doesn't exist unless you ask them to make it. Brilliant.

Tortington Sat 13-Apr-13 01:51:30

complaining about a product on offer which could exist. brilliant i agree thank you

or you can just piss and moan (clearly)

ecclesvet Sat 13-Apr-13 08:39:50

Complaining about things that could exist? Jesus...

tethersend Sat 13-Apr-13 08:55:55

It's all got a bit existential...

Whatalotofpiffle Sat 13-Apr-13 10:22:49

Ha ha ha ha I don't get round to complaining about things which do exist without adding things which don't! Agree they should probably have a filter on though so results aren't available

BasilBabyEater Sat 13-Apr-13 10:36:41

Actually complaining about the set up of the algorhythms is absolutely valid -Amazon acknowledged they needed to ensure those word combinations couldn't come up.

As for those of you implying that I'm a pervert who had been searching baby porn - really? You're that motivated to undermine any activity by feminists are you? And you can't imagine that this image might be doing the rounds on FB or twitter? Really? hmm

One of the issues with this stuff, whether or not it gets ordered, is the normalisation of the "humour". It of totally valid to resist this normalisation but hey, if you're happy to accept the normalisation and accuse people who don't want to accept it of perving, good for you. You're probably really cool.

LovesBeingWokenEveryNight Sat 13-Apr-13 10:40:04

Well I just clicked the link and it's no longer tgere

BasilBabyEater Sat 13-Apr-13 10:46:02

Excellent. Job done. smile

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 11:09:52

Basil - maybe you should check things before you repost them.

BasilBabyEater Sat 13-Apr-13 11:16:31

MP -maybe you should stop trying to stop feminists resisting the normalisation of porn culture?

If you don't want to complain, fine. I'm not telling you you should. I will complain every time I see this sort of thing though and I'll post so other people can do the same if they want. Sorry if that bothers you.

tethersend Sat 13-Apr-13 11:43:58

Basil, you're being disingenuous. You did not post this as a call to object about the normalisation of porn culture.

You specifically asked people to complain about the babygros designed by 'porn sick men'. You were mistaken, they weren't designed by porn sick men. They were designed by anyone who used the search terms.

The images and slogans themselves are a worthy topic of debate, so why not acknowledge your mistake and discuss this instead of pretending that it was your original point? It clearly wasn't.

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 12:31:36

I am a feminist. What I do though is check things out and use logic and reason. The facts here are that:

- these clothes were not designed by 'porn sick men'

- they were 'designed' by whoever searched for porn slogans on baby clothes

- porn slogans can be added to whatever you want them to be

If you want to get angry about porn slogans on clothes don't be disingenuous and attempt a campaign based on the fact people are making these baby grows - they aren't. If you want to get angry about sick things being available to people who specifically REQUEST them, that's another thing.

I understand though that taking just a few minutes to look at the facts is harder work than blindly copying and pasting links to things and blaming 'porn sick men'. Sadly shrieking feminists like you give the rest of us a bad name.

BasilBabyEater Sat 13-Apr-13 12:40:49

I'm slightly mystified by your post Tethersend.

I admit I don't know the ins and outs of this t-shirt design things. But you say these t-shirts aren't designed by pornsick men, but by anyone who would use the search terms.

So who would use those search terms and put them on a babygrow then? confused

When I posted to ask people to complain, I kind of thought it's obvious in the FWR section, that complaining isn't done for complaining's sake - it's done with a longer term goal. I know there's a school of thought that says feminists just enjoy complaining for complaining's sake grin but it's usually for a long term goal and in this case, it's resisting the normalisation of porn culture. Sorry, I just thought that's obvious, I'm not being disingenuous.

From what I remember of the last incident with Amazon, they said that they would look again at the software so that a combination like this can't be used. That's what the goal is - to make sure companies keep updating software to ensure this stuff can't happen because it's not technically possible. It pisses me off when people come on and start making snidey comments about feminists being pervs whenever this sort of thing arises - if they don't want to complain themselves, that's fine, but FGS, this need to undermine anyone who does, is so trying.

As to having a debate about the slogans -well, not sure what's to say about them actually. Think it might be a bit of a short debate...

BasilBabyEater Sat 13-Apr-13 12:44:44

" If you want to get angry about sick things being available to people who specifically REQUEST them, that's another thing. "

Er, that's what I thought I was doing?

But hey, I guess I'm shrieking too loud for you to get that MP, your feminist ears are probably different from mine.

Off out now, bored.

Mugofteaforme Sat 13-Apr-13 12:45:40

In defence of Basil. It's in no way obvious that the website uses algorithms to create potential designs, however what makes her put the absolute blame on men is indeed troubling.

MichaelPortaloo Sat 13-Apr-13 12:47:09

No you weren't Basil. You said they were designed by porn sick men. In fact they haven't been designed at all.

tethersend Sat 13-Apr-13 12:57:34

Im sorry you are mystified, Basil. Let me try again.

What you are angry about is a glitch in a website.

Whether or not that anger is justified is not the issue- the issue is that you thought the objects were genuine, possibly because you'd seen the website on twitter or Facebook, and reported here without critically evaluating the source.

There's nothing wrong with believing they were genuine- I certainly did- but it is churlish of you to insist you knew they weren't real all along, when your OP makes it clear that you didn't.

Perhaps the issue to debate is why we can see items such as this and believe that they exist- are they as far-fetched a possibility as they should be? What sort of culture lends credence to the idea of porn slogans on babygros?

you can still get a Jim'll Fix It babygro BTW

namechangeguy Sat 13-Apr-13 14:43:20

There was a discussion on here a couple of weeks ago, started by a feminist, who wanted people's ideas as to why feminism failed to connect with many people, when it's message is a positive one.

This discussion is a prime example. Start discussion with a false premise, make sure it includes a pop at men/male culture, have it pointed out that your initial premise was incorrect, move the goalposts, refuse to acknowledge your mistake, saddle up your high horse and clip-clop into the distance.

Such a pity. Now to go and find my hard hat.

CatelynStark Sat 13-Apr-13 15:01:08

Christ! Haven't we all got enough to be offended by in this society already, without getting outraged by things that don't even actually exist yet??

Bonkers!

CandlestickOlder Sun 14-Apr-13 18:34:24

Absolutely spot on namechangeguy.

ramiol1 Sun 14-Apr-13 18:38:55

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