Dildos & Vibrators

(115 Posts)
kickassangel Wed 06-Feb-13 00:56:12

OK - so in my class about Fraternity & Freemasons last night we ended up with the teacher telling us how the clitoris is the only part of a woman's body that has the nerve endings which will bring about an orgasm. That the vagina doesn't have the right amount of nerves. (Believe me, it made perfect sense for this to happen in a lecture on the history of 1800s freemasons.)

Anyway - my thought was - I get why penetrative sex exists, but WHY do sex shops sell dildos & vibrators?

I've never actually seen either in rl (yes, honestly), so maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't it make more sense for there to be sex toys that stimulate the clitoris, not the vagina?

And yes, the obvious answer is that we're meant to need a man & his penis, so that's what we get sold.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Wed 06-Feb-13 00:59:34

Vibrators stimulate the clitoris. They aren't usually penis-shaped, or at least they don't have to be; things like the Rabbit have a vibrating part that is designed to sit against the clit as well as the dildo bit.

Dildos exist because penetration feels nice. And there's nothing stopping one from having clitoral stimulation at the same time.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Wed 06-Feb-13 01:00:10

You may find it educative to browse an online sex shop store.

There are sex toys that stimulate the clitoris.

The way I see it (which could be wrong) is that sex is an inbuilt drive and pleasure can be gained from penetrative sex because that is what we are programmed to do.

I dont really think dildos are a feminist issue. But I am watching this thread with interest to see others opinions.

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 06-Feb-13 01:02:43

You've never heard of The Rabbit? Have a read. grin There are loads of vibrators to be used on the clitoris, and some women also have the G-Spot.

kickassangel Wed 06-Feb-13 01:28:51

In the same class we watched Animal House which has a comedy huge dildo which may have been influencing my views on this. I will not be doing any googling on this though as I use my laptop at school and don't want any unexpected adverts appearing on the smart board.

So are there any sex toys that are just for the clitoris? I'm wondering how accurate the lecture was. I def got the impression that PIV orgasms weren't the real deal

There are cock rings that have a little thing on the top that stimulates the clitoris. Some may argue they pleasure the man too but IMO they are mainly for the clitoris.

Bullets are tiny vibrators that are designed for the clit too.

You could argue that some sex toys empower women. Pleasure without the need for a man!

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 06-Feb-13 02:47:05

Dear God (and I say that as an atheist, apologies if I've offended anyone) if you're relying on Animal House to educate you about your own sexuality, you really need to get down to your local library (since you're scared of online research) and do a bit of reading.

As wannabe says, the Bullet would work.

And any orgasm is "the real deal", however you get there.

I'm glad I recognise your name, or I'd be calling "hairy-handed trucker".

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Wed 06-Feb-13 02:50:48

^ This! I thought the same, including the name.

OP, please, I'm really shocked that you don't know this! Not that everyone NEEDS sex toys, but, you know. There's a whole world out there.

Vibrators are just for the clitoris. They vibrate against the clitoris. That's what they do, that's how they work. Some also include a penetrative bit, so you get more than one sensation.

I promise, I absolutely promise, that the sex toy industry is not entirely comprised of equipment made by men which fails to stimulate women due to a fundamental misunderstanding about clitoral vs vaginal orgasms!

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 06-Feb-13 03:02:22

If you're worried about previous searches appearing, and don't mind having to reacall all your passwords etc, it's worth having a look at Crap Cleaner, or C Cleaner as it's known these days. But do look at it carefully, it may not suit you at all.

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 06-Feb-13 03:04:04

Or just go to a local Anne Summers party, or shop.

madwomanintheattic Wed 06-Feb-13 03:04:53

Yes, yes, yes, all of that, but for the love of all that is good and holy, you HAVE to explain how the actual feck a lecture on the Freemasons ended up with clitoral stimulation.


Tortoiseonthehalfshell Wed 06-Feb-13 03:10:58

I'm guessing it went like this:

Freemasons good example of fraternity/men sticking together - Fraternities generally use rituals (eg freemason bollocks) to create sense of Togetherness - one of the other ways in which togetherness is fostered is by Othering those not in it, often women, so college frats will often do things like prank their new initiates into things like dressing up as women or playing with 'hilarious' sex toys (thus the Animal House dildo scene, not that I've seen it) - something about male norms being the default (?) so male constructs of sex and sexual pleasure are mainstream, took until relatively recently for people to even acknowledge that PIV sex is not the way to orgasm for most women despite women, you know, always having known that, yadda yadda nerve endings.


OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 06-Feb-13 03:18:20

Hmm, see what you mean, tortoise, but Animal House was actually released in 1978 so a) it's ancient ( even I was young then) and b) it's utterly irrelevant to how women learn about their sexuality in 2013.

<revisits the hairy-handedness of the OP>

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 06-Feb-13 03:20:46

Unless the Op's lecturer was exploring the differences between then and now?

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Wed 06-Feb-13 03:26:55

I'm assuming it was just used as an example of fraternities and male bonding rituals? Not as a direct cause of misunderstandings of sexuality.

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 06-Feb-13 03:36:33

Ah, male-bonding rituals, yes. Get you there. And at this point, I sign out and go to bed. Will be interested to see how/if this thread develops, thanks to the OP for starting it.

Booyhoo Wed 06-Feb-13 03:37:55


i'm amazed at a woman not knowing about the g-spot and clitoral stimulators!

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 06-Feb-13 03:45:21

Well, it depends on the OP's history and background, not to mention age and experience. And now I really am crashing.

kickassangel Wed 06-Feb-13 04:18:06

Ok, not a hairy handed trucker. I've been here a decade and not name changed so easy to search me.

Horribly I'll educated and lacking in experience. I went to a church school and had the kind of parents who never mentioned sex. Ever.

So I had some sexual experience before marriage but not a whole lot and there wasn't even a sex shop where I grew up.

Just that the brief moment that we touched on the topic sounded like it was only the clot that gave a real O and that left me thinking so what is the point of a dildo then? Surely so many of them wouldn't be sold if they weren't hitting the spot. You'll all be glad to know that I had the good sense to sTFU in my lecture and decided that here was a much better place to ask than in a roomful of teenagers.

How we got onto it was the use of secrecy to make masonry seem exciting, and how men created the secrets. In contrast women and their bodies were the secret. Which led onto male ignorance about female clitoris.

Anyway, I am not sufficiently interested to actually try going out and buying stuff. It is a small town here. It has been known for me to come out of the pub and be seen by students I teach (and the shower at the gym). I just couldn't cope if they saw me within ten feet of a sex shop.

Please, do NOT cyber stalk me and send any interesting packages to my house. You would not be doing me a favor (images of brown paper vibrating penis shaped parcel sitting on my front porch, and that's not a euphemism)

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Wed 06-Feb-13 04:22:10

Aw, bless you kickass. I promise not to cyberstalk you and send you sex toys, because eewwwwww creepy.

Mitchy1nge Wed 06-Feb-13 11:03:48

weird, was going to start similar-ish thread about whether NHSvibrators would be scary after reading this article discussing masturbation on prescription shock

MechanicalTheatre Wed 06-Feb-13 12:11:10

I think vibrators (which are predominantly for the clitoris) are probably the more widely-used toy compared to dildoes.

And women CAN have vaginal orgasms.

IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou Wed 06-Feb-13 12:17:34

A dear friend of mine informs that there are 12 'spots' that induce orgasm.

iirc around 3 are inside the vagina (g spot, a spot a cervix)

Mitchy1nge Wed 06-Feb-13 12:23:17

12? Like the apostles?

I don't think I have a g spot sad

kickassangel Wed 06-Feb-13 12:28:25


I need to find a man who can.

fallenangle Wed 06-Feb-13 12:35:30

Vaginal orgasms definitely exist OP. doggy position does it for me. Freemasonary and the Clitoral Orgasm. Now there is an evening class title I want to see.

FreyaSnow Wed 06-Feb-13 12:43:36

Part of the clitoris is around the opening to the vagina, so you are stimulating part of the clitoris through penetrative sex. Most women don't involve penetration in masturbation but some do. I would also assume a lot of the dildos sold are used for men to penetrate themselves during masturbation.

BigSpork Wed 06-Feb-13 12:59:08

The clitoral nerves aren't just in the nub, they extend around the vagina opening and even into the perineum. I don't have the nerve diagram I used to have but the picture on the wiki of Clitoris (http://karnythia.tumblr.com/post/39510241094/autistic-scientist-not-ever-seeing-this seen enlarged here with commentary from another) shows how the clitoris has multiple parts and wraps around the entire area which can lead some to find insertion [which stretches and rubs part of it]or perineum stimulation very pleasureable.

There are also sex toys for pretty much any chosen stimulation.

BigSpork Wed 06-Feb-13 12:59:37
feministefatale Wed 06-Feb-13 21:24:55

I did double check your name to make sure it wasn't Kickasssangel or some other..sneaky trick by a hairy handed trucker....

Anyway short answer (for me anyway is) PIV feels really good. I have an orgasm from clitoral stimulation but I can't go straight for the goods, or it's too much if that makes sense. I have to work my way up to that. And even then a machine is too..well, mechanical. So I use a combination of dildo/finger work for spectacular effect.

It's like nipple stimulation, I couldn't orgasm from it but I could happily waste weeks hours letting dh play with them blush

feministefatale Wed 06-Feb-13 21:25:41

Off to name change now.

How was this available? shock grin

Darkesteyes Wed 06-Feb-13 21:38:26

Im one of those women that cannot come through penetration. It has to be clitoral.
i didnt have a proper full orgasm with a man until i was 31 and that was with my ex OM.
If i have a clitoral orgasm first and then go on top i find being on top very pleasurable but i wont orgasm again from it.

Sorry TMI.

Startail Wed 06-Feb-13 21:45:48

I think we need this talk for my WI

motherinferior Wed 06-Feb-13 21:50:39

Can I recommend you visit this very lovely shop which is staffed by lovely lesbian feminists who will offer you a nice cup of coffee and discuss the fabulous array of stimuli on offer?

No one has ever made me come blush

I can do it with someone there but not by them doing it iyswim.

kickassangel Thu 07-Feb-13 02:12:23

Now, I am absolutely not going to click on any links, OR mention this conversation at college next week.

anyway - I think the lecturer may have overstated things a little when she said that the only way to have an orgasm was through the clitoris. I was pretty certain I'd experienced one from PIV sex, but it did leave me wondering if somehow I'd been doing it wrong all this time. Then I wondered just what the point of a 'standard' vibrator was (althgouh I did know about the rabbit, hard not to on mn)

kickassangel Thu 07-Feb-13 02:28:24

Oh dear lord, it's started already. I'm getting ads for vibrators all over the place now. So much for letting dd see my facebook page.

Tortoiseonthehalfshell Thu 07-Feb-13 04:35:57


OldLadyKnowsNothing Thu 07-Feb-13 05:02:51

Clear your cookies, ads won't be a problem.

Though you might have to explain....

Clear your history, at least!

kickassangel Thu 07-Feb-13 19:21:11

honestly - I'm not going on any of the links.

I could just try typing 'fluffy kittens' several times to see if the ads change. Better not refer to ra**its too much though.

Oh go on kickass all the real feminist know all about this sort of thing.. so you will look well rubbish at the meetings if you don't click grin

kickassangel Thu 07-Feb-13 23:59:58

but Trucker (I love that someone is called that now), I do the feminist course in the evenings.

During the day I teach in the kind of school where saying 'Oh God' could get me fired! Imagine what would happen if I was looking up websites & a load of inappropriate adverts managed to slip past the firewall.

I'd have some 'splaining to do.

Darkesteyes Fri 08-Feb-13 01:08:58

For those of us who hate mornings.


Fallenangle Fri 08-Feb-13 10:55:02

Darkest It looks like a brilliant idea, but I need something to make me get out of bed, not make me want to stay there all morning grin

Mitchy1nge Fri 08-Feb-13 11:00:04

do they ship to the UK?

Scrazy Fri 08-Feb-13 11:11:37

Ahem, women can have vaginal orgasms, as well as clitoral and anal. The clitoral type and not the only ones. Therefore a cock shaped vibe, placed in the vagina or wrong un could achieve orgasm without touching the clitoris. So I have heard. Should have name changed blush

Try one OP grin.

Fallenangle Fri 08-Feb-13 11:19:21

Or try two for that full up feeling! I'll get my coat...

FreyaSnow Fri 08-Feb-13 12:01:10

Scrazy, the point is, as Spork was saying, that the clitoris is much more extensive than people think. It is impossible to insert something in the vagina without touching the clitoris because clitoral material surrounds the vaginal opening. So a vaginal orgasm is a clitoral orgasm.

As we're all being so sharing, I orgasm from touching the bottom part of my vulva, without penetration or touching the clitoral head. It is still a clitoral orgasm because I am touching clitoral material that is under the skin.

Scrazy Fri 08-Feb-13 12:02:29

Freya, well my friend reckons it feels very different so something else is happening.

FreyaSnow Fri 08-Feb-13 12:16:40

I think that orgasms can feel very different from each other, not just from the part you touch but also the way you touch it. I don't think orgasms from touching the head of the clitoris are very satisfying or strong, although you can have a lot of them very quickly which perhaps is why a lot of women like them. Maybe people who orgasm from penetration are also finding they have stronger orgasms that way.

Fallenangle Fri 08-Feb-13 12:18:09

It feels very different because other nerves in other places are being stimulated as well wheras stimulating the clitoris only doesn't stimulate other nerves. Plus what is going on in your head is different so the feeling is different.

Scrazy Fri 08-Feb-13 12:31:05

It it stronger and apparently there are contractions from deep within, well away from the clitoris. It's a vaginal one alright, nowt to do with the mind.

If mind had anything to do with it, being wooed etc then sex toys wouldn't work for women. A vibe won't buy you dinner and roses first.

Fallenangle Fri 08-Feb-13 12:39:42

But with masturbation goes fantasy, or is that just me? confused

Scrazy Fri 08-Feb-13 12:42:04

No it doesn't it need to, to get there. Or is that just my friend?

FreyaSnow Fri 08-Feb-13 12:42:41

I don't see how you could stimulate any part of the clitoris without stimulating other nerves as well; it is all attached to other body parts. It isn't like a penis which has a large area that is independent of other body parts. Most of the vagina, other than the part surrounded by the lower clitoris, doesn't really have any nerve endings. That's why you can't feel a tampon once it's inserted.

So it would seem obvious that more non-clitoral nerve endings are touched by stimulating the head of the clitoris as it is surrounded by other body parts that are sensitive to touch, rather than the vagina.

In my experience, touching the lower parts of the clitoris (either through penetration or touching the bottom section of the vulva) leads to more intense orgasm, which makes me think it is actually that area of the clitoris which creates stronger muscle contractions. But some women may find the opposite, and in that case it might be a matter of practise - that you can get better orgasms from different areas of the clitoris through improving technique. I don't know, but I don't see how it can be to do with other nerve endings when people get strong orgasms from the vagina, which has few nerve endings.

Casserole Fri 08-Feb-13 12:46:19

OP, go home tonight, look at a few, order yourself some, then delete all your browsing history and cookies. Job done.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub Fri 08-Feb-13 12:47:30

Not just you, Fallen.

FreyaSnow Fri 08-Feb-13 12:47:36

This is all very personal. I feel rude asking these questions! Aren't most strong clitoral orgasms felt deep within? I don't have orgasms from penetration mostly, but by touching the external bottom part of my vulva, I feel the orgasm contracting deep within.

I think I need a clipboard so I can go out and do a survey.

Scrazy Fri 08-Feb-13 12:50:37

Freya, imo they are different. But according to some people a myth.

FreyaSnow Fri 08-Feb-13 12:59:00

I think it is stupid to write off other people's physical experiences as a myth. When I was younger I thought there was only one kind of orgasm because I'd only had one kind and the Internet barely existed to tell me otherwise. Now that I'm older and have had more kinds, I think differently. But is also makes me want there to be more 'scientific' studies of how each kind is achieved, what is being stimulated and how they feel different. The more we know the more fun we can have. And there are some women who can't orgasm at all, and maybe they could if there was more information.

Fallenangle Fri 08-Feb-13 13:22:31

Now there is an expeiriment I would volunteer for. <Puts on guinea.pig costume>

Can't some women orgasm purely from nipple stimulation, so all orgasms can't be clitoral?

Darkesteyes Fri 08-Feb-13 21:22:02

HH ive had big body shaking ones from that but only when i do it myself. Was too embarrassed to put that on here earlier blush

You can do it yourself??? shock <so jealous you have no idea>. I love having them touched by someone else but touching my own does precisely fuck all...like tickling yourself iyswim. It's probably for the best though as I would never leave the house.

That good morning vibrator thing, how would that work? Surely you couldn't sleep if you had all gadgets in your pants?

Darkesteyes Fri 08-Feb-13 21:33:55

HH i have no option. Im married to a man who hasnt touched me for 17 yrs Apart from a one night stand in 98 and a 4 and half year affair which ended 5 yrs ago ive not had any sex or affection since. So i guess ive had to learn to do it myself.

On a lighter note if i had that rooster alarm thing i would end up wasting whole weekends smile

sad darkest that's awful, is there a medical reason for it? Why did the affair end?

Clicked post then realized how inappropriate my questions were. Sorry! ignore!

Darkesteyes Fri 08-Feb-13 21:44:38

Its ok my h just isnt interested in that side of things. I tried everything over the years and asked him to go for counselling but he didnt want to.
That was just before my affair.
About 3 yrs ago he said to "do what i need to do but be discreet about it"
But there is no real safe space for women in my position. I considered using extra marital dating but i dont feel that i can do something which could cause hurt to a potential partners children.
It is hard to explain this to potential partners in RL. Most of them would run a mile and i couldnt really blame them.
But i have managed to learn what my own body likes so maybe its not all bad.

I considered using extra marital dating but i dont feel that i can do something which could cause hurt to a potential partners children.

Well not everyone who is married has kids and you could specify that..or look for partners who are old enough that they are unlikely to have kids in the house?

Darkesteyes Fri 08-Feb-13 21:57:00

Yes. Its just getting up the guts to do it. I saw a tweet yesterday which said that when online dating the straight womans biggest fear is that they will meet a serial killer. The straight mans biggest fear is that their date will be fat. When i see things like that and the article about that reality stars fiance it makes me wonder if im not better off where i am. I do know not all men are shallow arseholes though.

The straight mans biggest fear is that their date will be fat.

Charming hmm

Darkesteyes Fri 08-Feb-13 22:01:09

HH someone else tweeted back that those men will be extinct soon anyway as they dont seem to mind dating serial killers.

grin that made me genuinely lol, I never think of things like that when I need them

Darkesteyes Fri 08-Feb-13 22:31:19

Yes i sat there and thought exactly the same. I wish id thought of it.

TheDoctrineOfSciAndNatureClub Fri 08-Feb-13 22:31:39

That's a brilliant riposte!

AnyFucker Sat 09-Feb-13 00:44:18

I can orgasm from nipple stim. Just wanted to put that out there. It is not a fallacy.

BIWI Sat 09-Feb-13 00:55:48

There are also other erogenous zones that can induce orgasm as well.

It's always an interesting experience for me if I have a facial or full body massage (an entirely 'above board' one!)

No touching of genitals at all, or nipples.

AnyFucker Sat 09-Feb-13 00:57:54

Erm, yes

< shuts up >

BIWI Sat 09-Feb-13 01:07:46


<thinks it's probably time to go to bed>

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sat 09-Feb-13 01:12:37

Personally, orgasm purely from clitoral stimulation is just nice. Only ever orgasming this way would be a bit 'meh'!
It's always good, but PIV orgasms for me are earth shattering, multipled and almost overwhelming.
I think your lecturer has a lot to learn!

piprabbit Sat 09-Feb-13 01:17:14

Given that I've occassionally woken up from a rude dream to find myself in the middle of an orgasm (untouched by human hand, so to speak), I think the lecturer was talking out of their arse.

CuriousMama Sat 09-Feb-13 01:22:51

Lovehoney are very discreet. But still I was blush at the postman when he handed me the large box the other day. He didn't know what was in it, but I did grin

Oh and I feel it inside too.

CuriousMama Sat 09-Feb-13 01:26:10

Darkesteyes my exdh was like your dh. Nice guy but not into sex. I'm much happier now with dp but I know leaving isn't for everyone. I hope you find some joy in your sex life though as it's so very lonely.

FreyaSnow Sat 09-Feb-13 11:53:52

People who are having orgasms from nipple stimulation or all over body massage, where do you feel the orgasm? Is it an internal pelvic muscle contraction?

I wasn't trying to make out that all orgasms are clitoral by the way; I was just pointing out that as clitoral material surrounds the bottom part of the vagina, the clitoris is stimulated by penetration of the vagina.

AnyFucker Sat 09-Feb-13 12:20:05

Freya, a "general" kind of feeling, so I guess erm, I dunno smile

Does it matter ? grin

Himalaya Sat 09-Feb-13 19:12:04

I've always thought those vibrators that look like big veiny plastic cocks are a bit over literal.

They seem like the idea of a vibrator that a bloke would design, rather than something a woman would design to get the job done grin

MechanicalTheatre Sat 09-Feb-13 19:22:02

Himalaya I have always thought the same. They are unnecessary.

MechanicalTheatre Sat 09-Feb-13 19:22:27

I wonder who invented the Rabbit. That seems like a woman might have made it!

CuriousMama Sat 09-Feb-13 20:22:20

I don't like the rabbit at all. I got the super duper deluxe one years ago, hated it.

I think a lot of orgasmic feelings start in the mind anyway. Women can get turned on visually too, it used to be thought that only men did.

chosenone Sat 09-Feb-13 20:34:57

love a rabbit, bullet not enough. What about those god awful corn on the cob ones confused

Darkesteyes Sat 09-Feb-13 20:53:38

Thanks Curious. X Its just finding someone i can trust. Thats the hard part. Im sorry to hear you have been through the same thing.
I never fail to be shocked and appalled by the number of women who are being put (or who have been) put through this.

On a lighter note i may go into our little local adult shop and treat myself during the week. A Valentines Day treat for myself perhaps.

CuriousMama Sat 09-Feb-13 20:57:32

Yes you do that Darkesteyes.

My ex would always promise to make an effort. I waited and waited. Makes you feel like a predator in the end.

Darkesteyes Sat 09-Feb-13 21:07:38

When i had my affair and he first found out he muttered the word bitch under his breath.
My own DM said i was acting like a whore.
I can cope most of the time but the past few months have been hard. I asked him to go to counselling and he refused. I asked him whether we were ever going to be intimate again and he just said "i dont know"
My sexual feelings towards him now are dead because its been 17 yrs. We are more like friends.
He has now been partially disabled for the last seven yrs. Hes almost 63 and im 40 this year.
Everything just seems completely insurmountable.

Darkesteyes Sat 09-Feb-13 21:09:38

Sorry I asked him to go to counselling ten yrs ago before the affair and he refused. I didnt make that too clear in my last post.

CuriousMama Sat 09-Feb-13 21:10:31

Do you have dcs together Darkesteyes? Are you afraid to leave or don't you want to? I was with my exdh 17 years too. Also an age gap but only 12 years with us. There's 13 with dp and I and he is rampant so nothing to do with age. I think it's just the way they are?

CuriousMama Sat 09-Feb-13 21:10:59

Oh I tried the counselling, exdh said we didn't need it hmm

NigellasGuest Sat 09-Feb-13 21:19:51

i have climaxed several times in my sleep!
Is that usual?

Badvoc Sat 09-Feb-13 21:29:15

I have ever had 1 PIV orgasm and it was unbelievable.
And I have climaxed in my sleep too! Very odd...

Darkesteyes Sat 09-Feb-13 21:34:09

I guess im just afraid. I dont think its anything to do with age either Curious. There are plenty of older men who still make love to their wives. I too believe its the way they are.
They also tend to think that because they dont want you no one else will.
I also had a Catholic upbringing (have completely rejected that religion for the past 21 yrs) but i have very mysogynistic parents.
Some times it feels so suffocating. Sometimes i just want to pack a bag and run. I can so understand why some people choose to go "missing" and not want to be found.

Darkesteyes Sat 09-Feb-13 21:40:10

Ive had naughty dreams (one really vivid one about my ex OM last month where i woke up turned on and in tears and more recently one about an actor) ive woke up turned on but not actually had an orgasm in my sleep (will admit that i helped myself along afterwards) blush

NigellasGuest Sat 09-Feb-13 21:47:44

yes, very odd....

AnyFucker Sun 10-Feb-13 11:41:02

DE, you know I've told you before how it makes me sad to think of you wasting the best (sexual, and otherwise) years of your life on this man.

AnyFucker Sun 10-Feb-13 11:44:53

Orgasm in my sleep has happened to me a couple of times. Very disorientating! Especially since I couldn't remember what I was dreaming about...

Darkesteyes Sun 10-Feb-13 15:59:15

AF thanks

AnyFucker Sun 10-Feb-13 16:35:34


Darkesteyes Wed 13-Feb-13 23:14:45

I did it. I treated myself to a little naughty pressie today. grin blush

AnyFucker Wed 13-Feb-13 23:15:56

See you in 3 days...

Darkesteyes Wed 13-Feb-13 23:49:40

Yep..LOL at AF x

I orgasm in my sleep quite regularly, maybe once a month. And especially if I haven't had sex in a while.

To those of you having vaginal orgasms from piv - are you stimulating your clitoris at the same time? Or is your partner just thrusting and that leads to an orgasm?

I've never been able to come without touching my clitoris so very interested in learning if I'm able to achieve these vaginal orgasms.

I've had a gspot orgasm before, amazing and very different.

Rosyisgonnabeamummy Sat 23-Feb-13 18:10:38

Watching rugby, wood burner lit, reading posts on self pleasure - can life get much better?

I second lovehoney. I like the glass phalic shaped ones. They are beautiful. No naf veins or noise.

I'm interested to hear about the treat - was it worth it?

Also, 2pence worth on clits. Your nerve bundle is huge. Masterbation only enhances your knowledge of your body, and enhances the signals to the brain. Huge subject but look in to the a & p of nerve conduction, enhancing nerve conduction and sensitivity. In short - nerves need practice at passing the pleasure signals up

Darkesteyes Sat 23-Feb-13 20:39:57

Rosy i havent actually tried it yet. And its time of the month now so will have to wait a bit.
Ive seen those glass phallic ones but they are way out of my price range.

Rosyisgonnabeamummy Sat 23-Feb-13 22:22:57

Dark mine was less than 20£

Darkesteyes Sat 23-Feb-13 22:43:08

Rosy thanks

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