To Megan Fox and other celeb mums - night nurses are a sign of flawed motherhood

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StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 16:06:06

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caramelwaffle Thu 20-Dec-12 16:15:20

That article is beyond spiteful.

Way beyond spiteful.

TheCrackFox Thu 20-Dec-12 16:22:18

I actually thought it was quite refreshing for Megan Fox to publically state she had hired a night nanny. A lot of sleb mums make out they don't have any help at all and are just like every other regular mum (normally have a nanny, housekeeper, chef and millions in the bank) leaving most new mums feeling very inadequate in comparison.

poozlepants Thu 20-Dec-12 16:22:35

I know something worse than not breastfeeding your child Ms Elkin- spouting this ridiculous, inaccurate, nasty judgemental drivel in a national newspaper.
I ebf and I would've bitten someones arm in a second if they'd offered me a nightnurse.

HilaryM Thu 20-Dec-12 16:25:27

That's utterly vile. I'm as pro breast feeding as they come but SHAME on the Independent for publishing such vicious bile.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 16:30:21

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TheCrackFox Thu 20-Dec-12 16:30:45

Surely, before the industrial revolution and the trend for living as a nuclear family, babies were often looked after aunties/grannies etc? Most women could gave wet nursed a baby over night (or the odd feed) to give a fellow mum a break.

It seems to be a relatively new phenomenon for a mother to spend 24/7 with a baby.

(I might be talking crap though)

SrirachaGirl Thu 20-Dec-12 16:33:46

She's a knob. Megan probably looks the way she does because she practiced good nutrition and fitness during her pregnancy and therefore didn't gain tons of weight to begin with. And she's a youngster...that helps.

I EBF all three of mine but would have happily handed them over to a night nurse if I'd had the means. Sleep trumps everything else.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 16:59:19

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Scholes34 Thu 20-Dec-12 17:08:39

The author of the article does acknowledge at the start that she's going to be judgmental. If anything, the article serves to highlight how the media can't cope with the natural effects childbirth has on a woman's body and the expectation that a woman instantly looks like pregnancy never happened and should carry on their life like nothing's changed.

Gigondas Thu 20-Dec-12 17:21:34

That's a fair point crack fox. And agree that the article is unhelpful particularly to focus on someone who was honest .

And saying I am going to be judgemental doesn't mean it makes their opinions something you can't criticise .

LRDtheFeministDude Thu 20-Dec-12 17:24:13

I thought that was a disgusting article too - is there a need to spoil someone's first few weeks with a new baby by being snide and rude?

I like the response here:

therealsgm.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/in-defence-of-megan-fox.html

MooncupGoddess Thu 20-Dec-12 17:26:13

I like the way she drops in that her babies slept through the night from three months. Because she is such an amazing mother, of course hmm

MooncupGoddess Thu 20-Dec-12 17:28:55

Actually though this is the Indie copying the Mail's lead in getting women to write horrible pieces about famous women, in the hope that lots of other women will get worked up about it, thus increasing their page views.

We should disengage from the whole unpleasant phenomenon.

Chubfuddler Thu 20-Dec-12 17:34:19

Disgusting. Really fucking foul article. Whether ms fox bf her baby, straps it to her in a sling or leaves it with a nanny all night is really no ones business but hers. And I say that as the most ardent bfer going.

cynnerthenaughtyreindeer Thu 20-Dec-12 17:37:18

Thank you do much for the link,LRD..excellent eloquent rebuttal..

GalaxyDisaStar Thu 20-Dec-12 17:41:15

I love your blog post SGM. Pretty much coves everything I could possibly say about that article, far better than I could.

RedTinsel Thu 20-Dec-12 17:42:22

If I had Megan Fox's millions I'd have a nanny for every room in the house.
Does MF say she's not bf? Not that it's anyone else business.

GalaxyDisaStar Thu 20-Dec-12 17:45:58

I suspect she probably isn't, or isn't exclusively. Just because, if the baby is under three months old, you'd surely be up pumping in the night, etc, which kind of cancels out the idea that a night nurse would get you a full night's sleep. More sleep, but not a full night's sleep. However, it is no one's business but theirs.

WitchOfEndor Thu 20-Dec-12 17:58:55

I think the article is very judgemental as many new mums struggle to cope and not all can breast feed successfully so we don't need any extra guilt heaped on mothers heads.

However I think she has a point about celebrity mums setting an example when they are back to pre baby weight straight after the birth. That also puts new mums in a position where they feel they have to look fabulous at a time when there are so many other calls on their time and energy.

Havingkitties Thu 20-Dec-12 18:03:19

That journalist is beyond jealous. You can almost read her spitting her words out in the text of that article.

DoubleYew Thu 20-Dec-12 18:09:49

What Mooncup said, I'm not reading it. They will just fart on about how they are raising important issues for debate to justify being unpleasant.

BOFingSanta Thu 20-Dec-12 18:15:03

Ooh, I read that blog post in ^The New Statesman^- you write really well, SGM.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 18:31:40

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BOFingSanta Thu 20-Dec-12 18:40:40

Weren't grin

You need me to proofread <hangs on coat tails>

happydad02 Thu 20-Dec-12 18:43:48

I would like research into the link bewteen pressurised breast feeding and PND. My DW exhausted herself breastfeeding as our DD2 wouldnt take breastmilk from a bottle so I was unable to help with nightfeeds etc. As for Celeb mum, It is true that the more healthy and slim you are before pregnancy, The easier it is to regain your shape after. Diet only needs to increase at 6-7 months. The 'im eating for two now' is a myth really.

slhilly Thu 20-Dec-12 18:44:36

What is especially vile about this article is that you need only do the most basic of research to learn that Megan Fox is a woman who has struggled with self-esteem and related issues. So Elkin's attack is even more likely to do damage. I hope that Megan Fox remains oblivious to the existence of the article.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 20-Dec-12 18:44:42

Galaxy, DH took DS1 overnight from about six weeks, albeit only once a week - I pumped for those feeds during the day and kept a pump with me in the spare room overnight just in case of pressure - but mostly I just did the first feed at 7am or so and then pumped off any excess. Another friend pumped every day so her DH could do the dream feed giving her 8pm-3am ish uninterrupted.

Not that that is the main point at all, but I think it is physically possible.

If Megan Fox's DP was doing the night shift, whether with expressed milk or formula, would the author be quite so pissed off? A form of neglect, FFS.

butterflyexperience Thu 20-Dec-12 18:48:41

Actually it is pretty normal to have help.
Back in the day when we lived with the extended family/tribe there was always a gran/aunt/sister to help out in the night or day or when ever.
This whole do it on your own is a modern day trend which I think contributes to pnd.

I hate the way in which women are seen as failures if they simply let themselves follow nature. Pregnancy and childbirth are natural and change your body forever. Looking after a new baby is demanding and tiring. That's just nature.

But if you are in the public eye, you are meant to ignore nature and somehow get your pre-pregnancy body back, look good all the time, work and care for your baby without any mistakes.

Well fuck that.

Women attacking women for not conforming to this ridiculous list of expectations and the media who make sure that each constructed "fault", each extra lb, each way in which a woman doesn't fight against the natural is like handing women to the patriarchy on a plate.

GalaxyDisaStar Thu 20-Dec-12 19:00:21

Doctrine - I think you were probably pretty lucky if you could do that comfortably from six weeks. Good on you though. Would have given a vital organ for a full night's sleep at that point. I totally agree that what your friend did is possible. Sadly 8pm-3am does not give you a night's sleep <eyes non sleeping toddler sternly>. Totally agree as well that it's not the main point, so will bow out of that bit of the conversation now if that's ok.

tribpot Thu 20-Dec-12 19:00:30

It's difficult to know what the most effective response is. I can well imagine the journo chortling at MNers discussing this (since, let's be honest, Megan Fox is unlikely to have Seen The Error Of Her Ways thanks to this helpful article, and sacked off the nanny this avo). Perhaps there is some justification by breaking copyright and displaying the text elsewhere for the purposes of commentary?

This, though: she has a point about celebrity mums setting an example when they are back to pre baby weight straight after the birth.

Surely the peer pressure for young celebrities is far worse even than for normal women? The vitriol Ms Fox has been subjected to simply for admitting to having a night nanny (and I defy any parent - male or female - not to have at least hankered after one in the early days) would be 100 times worse if she hadn't have got back to her pre-baby weight overnight. And have affected her employability. In this sense the media is berating its victims for doing what they tell them have to do. Is it damaging for other women? Yes. Will change happen if women like Megan Fox challenge stereotypes? Yes, slowly. Will change happen if other people stop perpetuating the stereotypes that affect her? Yes, immeasurably faster.

LRDtheFeministDude Thu 20-Dec-12 19:04:01

'As for Celeb mum, It is true that the more healthy and slim you are before pregnancy, The easier it is to regain your shape after. Diet only needs to increase at 6-7 months.'

Forgive me - because I've not had a baby (like you) - but why are we talking about 'regaining' shape? Why does this have to be presented as something that is important? I would really love it if people could stop pretending this is a good, healthy goal. I'd much rather be given a realistic idea of what a healthy shape/diet for a new mother is?

I am obviously going to be a shite pregnant lady, however, since my reaction to 'diet only needs to increase at 6-7 months' was a rather unladlylike snort, a vivid memory of virtually every pregnant woman I've ever known telling me about morning sickness/feeling wobbly and needing to eat, and the resolution: 'fuck that, I reckon I'll eat what seems good for me, my mental health and how I feel, no not just me-as-a-baby-machine'.

But as I say, I've never had a baby so perhaps you know much more than me from your experience, happydad.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 19:04:18

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch Thu 20-Dec-12 19:08:03

You're right, trib - it's another damned if you do, damned if you don't moment for a woman in the public eye, especially a mother. The duchess of Cambridge seems to be attracting similar "she can't be properly ill if she did SPOTY" vitriol - yet if she'd pulled out there'd be equally as many "can't she just pull herself together, she's let everyone down, she's pregnant not ill" posts. I'm certain no-one would have published a "Megan Fox looks dead tired - good for her, she must be a great mum" article.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 19:09:31

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RillaBlythe Thu 20-Dec-12 19:10:16

I read somewhere - I think in Blaffer Hrdy - that in 'tribal societies' where mothers baby wear & breastfeed as a matter of course, they also only spend 60% of the time with their baby. Hrdy says that the extended vulnerability of the human child only works in a cooperative child rearing setting.

Also picking up on 'regaining shape' - I don't have a shape to regain - I am IN my shape, which is that of a woman who has had (& fed) two children.

onedev Thu 20-Dec-12 19:10:45

Absolutely horrible, spiteful & v jealous. Just awful.

Smudging Thu 20-Dec-12 19:22:16

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GalaxyDisaStar Thu 20-Dec-12 19:24:21

Well, I have had two children. And I've gained a lot of weight each time. To an extent I did need to 'regain' a healthy weight - for health reasons. My weight post-pregnancy was overweight and, whilst it was ok at 3 months, at 9 that started to get a bit long term. It also got wearing only fitting a handful of clothes when they got thrown up on so frequently, and shopping for a whole new wardrobe with a baby sounded like the seventh circle of hell grin

But I too snorted at 'diet increasing at six months'. I was starving all 9 months (well, 8.5 - from 4 weeks gone to overdue!). I was also exhausted, and sometimes a snack at the station was vital so I didn't lie down on the platform and go to sleep. Honestly, I was so exhausted I sometimes contemplated going to bed on the sofa because the stairs seemed like a mountain.

I think 'ooh, you shouldn't increase your food too much' has become yet another stick with which to beat pregnant women.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 19:31:21

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grimbletart Thu 20-Dec-12 19:38:51

I hate to use the unsisterly term "bitch" to describe a woman. However I am happy to make an exception in Ms Elkin's case.

Wheresmypopcorn Thu 20-Dec-12 19:39:02

good grief, who wouldn't get a night nurse? I would have if I could have afforded it

BOFingSanta Thu 20-Dec-12 19:41:54

I think it's easy enough to extrapolate from your own experiences in life and say what you think people 'should' or 'shouldn't' do. But even if you have been pregnant yourself, or have breastfed with whatever degree of difficulty, you really can't assume that it's going to be the same for everyone else. I think it's basic courtesy really to MYOB and let people be, perhaps offer to help where possible. But when it comes to pregnancy, birth, and mothering young babies, people seem to have an awful lot to say about where they think women are going wrong. It is policing, and it's out of order.

^ That is aimed at the whole world, btw, not any individual.

TheCrackFox Thu 20-Dec-12 19:50:30

I would have lurved to have hired a night nanny. I really feel exhaustion made my PND far worse.

Plus, presumably a night nanny would know what she was doing whereas DH and I didn't have a clue what we were doing with DS1. I still find it shocking that the hospital let 2 gormless numpties take a new born baby home.

LRDtheFeministDude Thu 20-Dec-12 19:51:26

Thanks for the advice, galaxy, really good to know, and apologies for the derail (if it was one).

CheerfulYank Thu 20-Dec-12 20:03:27

Just vile.

I was so exhausted with when DS was tiny that if a respectable-looking person had wandered off the street and offered to watch him while I napped I might have jumped at it!

Good for Megan Fox for her honesty.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 20:03:44

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TheOriginalLadyFT Thu 20-Dec-12 20:05:26

If you read Elwin's tweets, you'll see that she makes no bones about writing things to cause controversy. Great, nothing like a bit of misogyny in the name of boosting readership figures, eh?

As my exP walked out half way through my pregnancy, I was pretty much stuck with doing everything. My DS didn't go longer than four hours sleep wise til he was 12 months old (I went back to work when he was six months), establishing BF was hideously hard for various reasons and I felt as though I was losing my mind for months. A night nurse would have been manna from heaven, frankly and to suggest that hiring one would have been tantamount to neglect is pathetic

CheerfulYank Thu 20-Dec-12 20:12:48

My best friend lived a few blocks away when DS was an infant and used to come take care of him while I slept. Didn't mean I "couldn't cope", just meant I was exhausted and needed a hand.

GalaxyDisaStar Thu 20-Dec-12 20:18:09

Oh god, it wasn't meant to be 'advice'. Sorry if I sounded all "I've had children so I'm an expert on pregnancy hunger". I was trying to agree with you blush.

I'm with you SGM. I probably wouldn't have hired a night nurse. But someone to do everything except looking after the baby would have been bliss. Particularly cooking and cleaning. And the odd restorative night wouldn't have gone amiss either!

LittleChristmasBearPad Thu 20-Dec-12 20:22:59

It's a thoroughly spiteful article and the Indy should be ashamed. BF-ing didn't work out for me and my daughter screamed every time I tried; it was awful and so when she took to a bottle like a duck to water I pumped as long as I could but switched to FF very early. However as I've clearly neglected DD I shall be reporting myself to the NSPCC/Childline et al.

Silly cunt.

Ridiculous article, what if you replace "night nanny" with "Dad" giving baby expressed breast milk - still "neglect"? WTAF is the difference?

She also writes from the very smug (and enviable) position of someone whose babies slept through from 3m old. Ha! Try bf 11pm, 1am, 4am and then being woken by your older dc's for the day at 5.30am every night for a year Ms Elkin - then see how you feel about night nannies hmm

Finally, I didn't get back to exercising until my babies slept through, but its easy to find half an hour or so a day once they do, so again, not neglectful. To be fit and look good is directly linked to MF's job, would she criticise a lawyer for staying on top on continuing professional education, regularly reading papers etc.?

BOFingSanta Thu 20-Dec-12 20:32:12

No, no, Galaxy, I'm not getting at you at all, I promise! Just saying that we all tend to jump to pass on our wisdom, and it often veers dangerously close to telling people that they are doing something wrong.

mumofthemonsters808 Thu 20-Dec-12 20:39:42

Neither of my babies were breastfed I never even attempted it so I too am a bad Mother.Also I would have given my right arm for a night nurse.Regarding my baby weight it dropped off me extremely quickly but it did with my sister and even my mother so I suspect it may be a genetic thing.

LRDtheFeministDude Thu 20-Dec-12 20:44:04

galaxy - I thought it was nice of you! I just mean, I don't know what it's like. Neither does happy, though I'm sure he knows a huge amount more about it than me. I was just trying to say, my first reaction is, I bet MNers know more about this than some bullshit scare-warning about keeping your figure and not eating an ounce more than you need until the third trimester - and you came along and explained very helpfully what I needed to know.

This thread is advice for me, because I've not done it yet. So I'm glad of anything that tells me the media version of motherhood might not be the only model I've got to go for.

BlingLoving Thu 20-Dec-12 21:43:01

What really jumped out at me in this ridiculous article was the theory that breast milk is not as good if its not given exclusively from the breast. What a load of hogwash. This woman needs serious help if he believes any of this and I almost feel sorry for her. She must have been one of those women who turned into crazy boring child-feeders and lost all sense of self and is trying to justify it.

I think it's wonderful when women admit they don't find motherhood super natural and easy and say if they need help. Well done to Megan fox.

And I agree completely with stewie re how in the past babies were raised by more than just the woman. It infuriates me that in this day and age we are suddenly expected to do it all alone.

GalaxyDisaStar Thu 20-Dec-12 21:43:44

Oh goodness. I am misunderstanding people all over the place today. Clearly need a medicinal wine

The media version of motherhood is about as far from accurate as can be. But I think you know that.

LRDtheFeministDude Thu 20-Dec-12 21:53:03

You're fine! Have a wine

I honestly meant, I was glad of your perspective and glad of this thread and SGM's blog, and I'm happy they're all here where I can read them.

PleaseLetsGoToSleep Thu 20-Dec-12 21:55:17

I don't have much to contribute here, you've all said it so eloquently, but god I'm so infuriated about this article I'm not sure I'll sleep tonight.
Also, clearly it must have been the author's superior mothering skills that meant her children slept through the night at 3 months. Grrrrr!

GalaxyDisaStar Thu 20-Dec-12 22:08:02

PleaseLets - Is your user name a clue that your children are rather like mine? DD2 is 18 months and we've only just got down to a good night being one waking. Until v v recently she was normally up four times.

wine now poured grin

kim147 Thu 20-Dec-12 22:15:46

Just wondering where the journalist stands on the OH doing the night feeds - even with expressed milk. That's what we did. Judging by her article, I can imagine she doesn't even approve of that.

StewieGriffinsMom Thu 20-Dec-12 22:19:16

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AfterEightMintyy Thu 20-Dec-12 22:28:36

I'm not sure I can get terribly worked up about this actually. Megan Fox has bought in to a world where women are judged on their looks and been hugely rewarded by it. She is a cog in the horrible celebrity machine. Are we supposed to feel for her more than other women?

Meglet Thu 20-Dec-12 22:34:47

Blimey, she's as mad as a box of frogs. I know I'd have been a better parent with more sleep.

I suspect the Independent team were howling with laughter at this one, knowing how much traffic would end up on their website.

LRDtheFeministDude Thu 20-Dec-12 22:37:26

I don't think we're meant to feel more for her, mintyy, but IMO it's like anything - you get women who're buying into the patriarchy who are more or less culpable, and women and men who're protesting the patriarchy or going their separate way. And you get people who are both cementing the patriarchy and benefitting from it. I have no idea who Megan Fox is, but she's obviously not doing the last one of those. She may be buying into the patriarchy, but she's also been taken down by it, I think?

GalaxyDisaStar Thu 20-Dec-12 22:46:33

I think the reason I'm worked up about it is that she basically seems to be saying that every woman should totally subsume themselves, any desires of their own, because they are a mother. The clear message is that Megan Fox, by deciding to do something which presumably she feels is for her benefit more than the baby's (not to imply it harms the baby, but as in, not getting up in the night isn't a sacrifice she is making because she thinks it's better for her baby) is a shit mother.

And that message is one that comes across too often in discussions about motherhood.

Jessepinkman Thu 20-Dec-12 23:06:25

What a crock of shit. She would not like to meet me in real life.

trixymalixy Thu 20-Dec-12 23:16:10

Vil article. I fantasised about being able to afford a night nanny when DS was born, I would quite happily have killed for a full night's sleep.

trixymalixy Thu 20-Dec-12 23:16:25

*vile

PleaseLetsGoToSleep Fri 21-Dec-12 08:24:02

Yes Galaxy, my DS is a terrible sleeper too, I feel for you I really do. Which is why this article has got to me so much.
Christ if I could afford help I'd get it. I'm sure most of us would.

PiccadillyCervix Fri 21-Dec-12 19:32:14

I am confused as to why the Daily Mail is outsourcing its misogyny to the Independent.

It seems like a sign flawed journalism to do so. Totally unatural

catgirl1976geesealaying Sat 22-Dec-12 16:27:44

I fantasised about a night nurse when ds was waking every two hours for a feed...

AmberSocks Sat 22-Dec-12 17:53:13

while i dont think theres anything wrong with a night nurse i dont understand why people find it so hard in the night,i co slept with all of mine and when they woke up to feed i just latched them on and then went back to sleep,did the same with a bottle later on too.

GalaxyDisaStar Sat 22-Dec-12 19:10:14

Amber- With the greatest of respect, I think that's an example of what BOF was talking about. Extrapolating personal experience to the general. I didn't find it that hard in early days either, though dear god knows I do now it is still going on after 18 months (and I reckon that, with DD1 added to the mix, I've had about 9 months of a full night's sleep since early 2009, most of which I spent pregnant and so exhausted I thought I would die anyway).

But there are any number of reasons why people do. Babies that don't just go back to sleep and stay up for hours. Babies that wake every 30 minutes. Mothers who find that they just can't sync with their baby's sleep cycle and are dragged from a deep sleep every time. Mothers who have medical conditions where they need decent, deep sleep. And 'just' mothers who personally find it hard having their sleep interrupted - and for a lot of healthy youngish woman, that is probably as much as a psychological level as anything. I know I found it tougher being up with DD1, just because it was such a huge adjustment and the mental strain of this tiny being even being able to control you not resting when you are knackered is tough.

BOFingSanta Sat 22-Dec-12 19:32:39

Yes, it is exactly what I meant. It is never (or rarely) done with malice, but it can make people feel a bit crap. Generally, we all just muddle through doing our best, and we've often tried what other people are suggesting and have found that, for whatever reason, it hasn't worked for us.

PiccadillyCervix Sat 22-Dec-12 21:39:21

Amber cosleeping is not recommended by many doctors. That's why many parents choose not to do it. I had no intention of doing it with my kids and was very conscientious of always putting dd in her cot.

Ds would not have it and I had to keep him in bed with us which meant I got no sleep as I have sleep apnea and was scared shitless of rolling on him.

AmberSocks Sat 22-Dec-12 21:50:01

i guess that dependshow much notice you take of what doctors say,im very wary,i tend to go with what feels natural and do my own research but i understand not everyone is like that.

I must of just been lucky with my 4?

GalaxyDisaStar Sat 22-Dec-12 21:51:09

Sorry to hear your DS is bad too PleaseLets. DD was up countless times the last few nights. Sleepy vibes from me to both of them!

trixymalixy Sat 22-Dec-12 22:40:23

I co slept out of desperation, and it made things slightly more bearable but I was still desperate for an unbroken night's sleep.

StewieGriffinsMom Sun 23-Dec-12 07:37:36

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HoleyGhost Sun 23-Dec-12 07:46:20

It implies that people who are not lucky are doing something wrong.

Not read the article (don't want to reward the journo by opening the link) but this is an interesting thread. I think the idea that we should subsume ourselves into our babies explains why mothers are judged so harshly. We have to cope without anyone seeing us sweat.

StewieGriffinsMom Sun 23-Dec-12 10:59:57

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tribpot Sun 23-Dec-12 11:39:24

It’s why maternity leave was invented.

Don't American women in general have about half an hour off on maternity leave, compared to our European allowance?

But other than that - good god. I am extremely glad I didn't give the Indie the page hit to read that complete load of hate-filled toss. And if Megan Fox was 'courting admiration' why would she have admitted she had employed a night nanny?

StewieGriffinsMom Sun 23-Dec-12 11:51:51

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tribpot Sun 23-Dec-12 12:44:55

10 days shock sad

So actually the article should have been about what a bloody slacker Megan Fox is compared to proper celebrity mums in the US who give birth actually on the treadmill whilst rehearsing scenes for the first day of filming the next day.

catwomanlikesmeatballs Thu 27-Dec-12 03:25:10

What a horrible article. I would have loved to have been able to afford a night nurse. I can't remember most of the first eight months from exhaustion due to a never sleeping for more than an hour at a time, constantly hyperactive, attention seeking baby. It didn't make me a better mother but it did make me forgetful, non thinking, aggressive, always sobbing and a little bit crazy and I doubt dd benefited from that.

How lovely for Megan to be able to enjoy her new baby from the get go. Some people get lucky with good sleepers, others are fortunate to have help, nothing wrong with that. I don't understand what the 'mummy martyrs' are trying to prove. There's nothing wonderful or admirable about not being able to function properly on a day to day basis and not being able to focus on or enjoy your baby because you're wrecked from months of not sleeping....ever...

Notafoodbabyanymore Thu 27-Dec-12 05:42:39

Yep, co-sleeping is the answer to every situation, every child, every mum ever. And all HCPs are crap and liars. hmm

This article is disgusting because it is both judgemental and poorly reasoned. And I don't even particularly like Megan Fox.

scottishmummy Thu 27-Dec-12 12:49:36

venomous article
if I'd had the money id have hired staff 24-7 damn right

SingingSands Thu 27-Dec-12 13:34:32

What a horrible, nasty piece of editorial. My skin is crawling reading that. So many horrible things in such a short piece of writing, she must be very bitter and twisted inside. And her bum crack must be chaffed to bits with her yanking up her judgey pants all the time...

When DS was 2 weeks old I had hideous mastitis and was exhausted and in pain. My lovely next door neighbour took DS and his 4 year old sister outside to play for 2 hours whilst I napped on the sofa. I am eternally grateful to her for this simple kindness. I'm sure Megan Fox is just as grateful to her nanny.

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