Samia Shahid's relatives arrested

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DoinItFine Sun 04-Sep-16 08:24:08

Samia Shahid's relatives arrested in Pakistan

Has anyone else been following this story?

Her father, uncle, and ex-husband (aka her owners) have been arrested.

Apparently strangulation doesn't count as a natural death, even for a woman in Pakistan.

Well, not when the world's media is watching at any rate.

powershowerforanhour Sun 04-Sep-16 09:00:19

What chance did she have against that lot? Firat I knew of the case was listening to it on the radio- I heard "uncle and ex" first and thought "her poor family, they must be distraught that the other lot got their murdering hands on her when she was far from the safety of her own family". Then they said her own father was thought to have been involved.
Fuck.

Lessthanaballpark Sun 04-Sep-16 09:20:53

It should be shocking but sadly it's not. What is with these men that think it's OK to take a woman's life because she doesn't live up to your idea of what a woman should be?

And if ever there was proof that rape is more about power than sex this is it. To rape a woman knowing that you are going to kill her afterwards...what kind of mentality do you need for that?

powershowerforanhour Sun 04-Sep-16 09:35:33

The kind of mentality of the captors in Orwell's 1984. It is not enough to control somebody's body up to and including killing them, her mind must be broken and subjugated too.

booklooker Sun 04-Sep-16 18:52:35

And if ever there was proof that rape is more about power than sex this is it

I thoroughly agree with that statement, it's not just women wearing miniskirts and fishnets that get raped

However I think there is so much more to this than just one man's power over a woman (or group of men). It seems to be ingrained into Pakistani (male) culture that this is the correct way to respond. I know very little about this, but I would not be at all surprised if there is a a lot of sympathy in the country for her family's monstrous barbarity.

And yet Pakistan were the first Muslim country to elect a female leader, twice.

Felascloak Sun 04-Sep-16 19:49:22

Oh that poor woman, how horrific. RIP Shamia

tribpot Sun 04-Sep-16 19:55:35

To rape a woman knowing that you are going to kill her afterwards...what kind of mentality do you need for that?

One that wants to send a warning to the women who will hear all the details of this barbaric crime: step out of line and you'll be next.

RIP Shamia. You deserved a better life and a better family than this.

DoinItFine Mon 05-Sep-16 11:17:46

And yet Pakistan were the first Muslim country to elect a female leader, twice.

And Pakistan is where Malala is from.

And where she was shot in the head for going to school.

A country of massive contradictions.

And horrific misogyny.

The family needed to get her there so they could kill her.

They strangled her and then almkst got away with saying she just died of natural causes.

She knew herself she was in danger going there.

sad

Lottapianos Mon 05-Sep-16 11:24:49

'It should be shocking but sadly it's not'

I agree. That poor woman. Absolutely horrendous. I'm glad that her murderers will hopefully be brought to justice

ConcernedMum420 Mon 05-Sep-16 19:16:08

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Xenophile Tue 06-Sep-16 09:47:27

She could have tripped and what? Raped herself? Strangled herself?

I'm sure those things happen, like, all the time.

And muslamic state? Do they also have those muslamic ray guns?

RIP Shamia, your final hours must have been terrifying, but hopefully you will now get some measure of justice.

whataboutbob Tue 06-Sep-16 17:34:58

Seems her family thought they could kill her, and then pop back to Bradford (if i recall correctly) and carry on running the family business. local police at 1st said it was an asthma attack, failing to notice the 6 inch bruise on her neck. Then they were told to look again basically by UK based pressure, and suddenly it hoved into view. oh and they noticed she'd been raped too. Says all you need to know about local attitudes to women.
I am not that impressed by Benazir Bhutto being pm. She was carrying on the bhutto dynasty and would never have got there if she didn't represent a kind of continuation of her father. Same as Indira Gandhi, and the Bangladeshi pm.

Lorelei76 Tue 06-Sep-16 17:51:36

Concerned, is that some kind of sick joke?

I wish the media would stop using the term "honour" killing. I presume they use it because they think it's a short hand explanation of the mentality but I think "murder" is a better short hand explanation of the mentality?

agree re women politicians in those countries and frankly it means nothing when so much misogyny goes on.

SanityClause Tue 06-Sep-16 18:00:06

I think quite often the term used is "so-called honour killings", Lorelei.

The article linked to, uses quotation marks around the word "honour", as well, to imply the "so-called" bit.

I do agree that there is nothing honourable about killing, well anyone, pretty much.

Lorelei76 Tue 06-Sep-16 18:05:40

I know, Sanity, but even the "so-called" bit doesn't mitigate it for me.

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