Recording rape culture

(92 Posts)
BarefootAcrossHotLegoPieces Thu 03-Mar-16 07:42:14

I'd like to use this thread to record examples of rape culture - when individuals, the media, or both, minimise rape and sexual assault.

It's rarer now to see a headline about a "romp" and find it describes a rape, but some commentators still leave a lot to be desired.

I hope this will be a long running thread, as with the Victims of Violence thread, to note examples.

I will start with two below.

BarefootAcrossHotLegoPieces Thu 03-Mar-16 07:45:38

www.kentonline.co.uk/weald/news/you-have-no-god-given-right-91936/

This young man considered he had a right to sex regardless of his girlfriend's wishes. Luckily he was stopped and later convicted.

BarefootAcrossHotLegoPieces Thu 03-Mar-16 07:48:00

A BBC commentator describes Adam Johnson's sexual assault of a teenage girl as a "desperately tragic own goal" - with the focus on the impact on the perpetrator, not the victim.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-35589171

HappyJustToBe Thu 03-Mar-16 07:51:36

Some of comments on that first article. Wow.

What does she expect if she is in a hotel with him. He has had his life ruined. Wow.

Daisyonthegreen Thu 03-Mar-16 07:56:23

I am amazed you have no posts on this considering what is occurring regards sexual assault in Europe and the media being ordered originally to cover it up
Where are the feminists on this,where are the celebrity feminists.
Any woman should be horrified at the sexual assaults but there is a deafening silence.

WomanWithAltitude Thu 03-Mar-16 07:57:40

Great idea for a thread, thanks!

Daisyonthegreen Thu 03-Mar-16 07:58:35

Well quite,I hadn't heard the Judge had said that.

BarefootAcrossHotLegoPieces Thu 03-Mar-16 08:03:46

Hi Daisy

I think you are new to MN - welcome! You accidentally messaged me your first post.

There have been 8 full threads on the In The News board about Cologne that you might want to look at.

LurcioAgain Thu 03-Mar-16 08:12:08

As well as several on Cologne in the feminist section. But yes, the mayor of Cologne's classic piece of victim blaming in the aftermath is indeed a prime example of rape culture in action (and article 177 of the German penal code which basically decodes as "it isn't rape unless you physically fight back" is a massive example of institutionalised rape culture enshrined in legislation).

BarefootAcrossHotLegoPieces Thu 03-Mar-16 08:13:55

Agree, Lurcio.

BarefootAcrossHotLegoPieces Thu 03-Mar-16 08:21:04

A link to the mayor's comments about a code of conduct for women. It's not clear how we go about keeping people at arm's length in a packed crowd!

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mayor-of-cologne-says-women-should-have-code-of-conduct-to-prevent-future-assault-a6798186.html

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts Thu 03-Mar-16 13:30:16

Judge manages to minimise chld rape while simultaneously blaming the original rape/murder for this mans actions...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-35328799

Child rapist? Never mind, poor bloke has been through enough. hmm

PalmerViolet Thu 03-Mar-16 13:41:47

Sky New's reaction to Adam Johnson's conviction for sexual activity with a minor and grooming.

And the reactions of people on Twitter.

And even some of the reactions on MN.

All victim blaming rape culture.

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts Thu 03-Mar-16 14:05:05

Just saw this on fb...
www.feministcurrent.com/2016/03/01/watching-friend-rape-trial-rape-culture/

Daisyonthegreen Thu 03-Mar-16 14:12:37

I have been advised there are other threads regards rape culture,one had 11 posts and one site is closed.
Perhaps it was thought not worth discussing,I'm new so be patient folks.
There appears to be an alarming culture of rape but also cultures where rape of Western women is deemed allowable.
Very worrying.

BarefootAcrossHotLegoPieces Thu 03-Mar-16 14:18:46

Here's the latest thread on cologne, Daisy

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/2565952-Sex-Attacks-in-Cologne-and-other-European-Cities-Part-IX

MN threads are full after 1000 posts so there are more than 8000 posts in total! Links to the first 8 threads are in the OP of that thread.

Otherwise, rape culture comes up in general discussions on this board and Mn a fair bit. We tend to start new threads rather than revive ones that are months old and sometimes discussions peter out and come back.

Feel free to start from here and post examples of rape culture on this thread or to discuss generally on this board!

BarefootAcrossHotLegoPieces Thu 03-Mar-16 15:40:51

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35718370

Glad this match.com rapist has been jailed but can't believe the company left his profile up

noddingoff Thu 03-Mar-16 20:59:55

Headline on an article about Adam Johnson in the Belfast Telegraph today, "A starry lifestyle with many temptations" So the victim was a "temptress" then, not a vulnerable child. The article goes on to discuss the alteration in "football's attitude to sexual misconduct" by comparing a manager who was sacked in 1977 for having an affair with the club physio's wife with Ched Evans being allowed to train at Sheffield United's grounds post conviction. At least the article did refer to him as "convicted rapist Ched Evans".... but still, lumping this rape together with an affair and just calling them both "sexual misconduct" is crass in the extreme.

Daisyonthegreen Fri 04-Mar-16 00:37:58

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/119385

Can't believe there are only 517 signatures on this!!!!!!!
Please sign for yourselves and all female loved ones.

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts Fri 04-Mar-16 09:42:04

I havent signed it as its a bit vague. What measures do they want brought forward?

Daisyonthegreen Fri 04-Mar-16 11:28:23

Basically I think it's to try and get the Authorities to recognise that women must be free to go about their business unmolested,the powers that be are trying to ignore the issue.
I think we should sign in our thousands.

Daisyonthegreen Fri 04-Mar-16 11:31:44

www.express.co.uk/news/world/649769/Mob-30-migrants-chase-girls-through-shopping-centre-clashing-police

Have " caught this story" before it slides of the pages.

BertrandRussell Fri 04-Mar-16 11:41:41

I can't sign a petition that I couldn't explain if someone asked me about it. What sort of "measures?"

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts Fri 04-Mar-16 11:55:21

Thank you daisy. But surely the law already says women should go about their business unmolested? I know its not exactly enforced, but thats why "feminism". I think trying to encompass that into a petition is a tad naive? Unless i'm misinterpretting it?

BeyondTellsEveryoneRealFacts Fri 04-Mar-16 11:58:41

Ps, thank you for the message telling me you have responded, though it is unnecessary to notify someone - you can check for recent posts in threads you are on smile

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