This is interesting: quota for female medical students

(8 Posts)
FiftyShadesOfSporn Fri 28-Aug-15 13:42:41

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34042751

scallopsrgreat Fri 28-Aug-15 16:10:42

Wow what a misogynistic article. In addition to the misogyny underpinning how Pakistan are in that position.

"In other words, perhaps the success of women students is not so much their own hard work, it is embedded in the culture of keeping girls at home." I mean WTF??? The women still have to do the work. That is dismissing their work and acumen in one fell swoop.

YonicScrewdriver Fri 28-Aug-15 16:35:55

Yy scallops. And the "the women would choose family if they had to" - like that choice is in isolation. Did they ask any of the men that? Nope because they'd've got a WTF look in return.

MsInterpreted Fri 28-Aug-15 19:07:11

I was disgusted at the "not so much their own hard work" comment. Becoming a Dr is incredibly hard work! Where the hell does "not so much" come from? The comment from the male Dr made laugh though, "they stay at home and "rote-learn" ? It was like he was having a dig at her exam study technquie. Critical thinking is all well and good but is "hanging out with friends" considered a better plan when you're trying to become a Dr?

YonicScrewdriver Fri 28-Aug-15 20:45:50

Yy. The point is that the men could choose to stay in and study and that they don't is entirely their own lookout.

WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 Fri 28-Aug-15 20:56:33

What an awful article. I can understand the quotes from people with disagreeable opinions, but the author goes on to seemingly back them up confused

The quote "But if they were asked to choose between their careers or their families, which would it be?
"I'd try to convince them," says 20-year-old Eliya Khawar. "But if they aren't, I'd choose family." is very interesting - she would try to persuade her family (husband) to let her practice but if they didn't let her that would be that. That would have been an interesting point to expand on - who is actually preventing the women working? Is it entirely their own choice?

Very little thought went into that. I mean even this is odd "Back at the medical school, two starry-eyed female students tell me they are determined to become doctors." What does the author mean by "starry eyed" in this context? If seems like a weird expression to apply to a pair of young adults who are studying a difficult subject at university. The tone of the whole thing is a bit weird.

The human rights lawyer Mr Akbar gets my vote "Mr Akbar has filed a petition in court challenging the decision to introduce the "quota". He calls it unconstitutional and says the government should encourage women to stay in the profession instead. "The answer is that they have to make the working environment more women-friendly rather than saying, no, you can't be a doctor because you end up leaving the profession."

WishIWasWonderwoman Fri 28-Aug-15 22:34:02

"Back at the medical school, two starry-eyed female students tell me they are determined to become doctors." Whirpool you're right, it's such a weird sentence. Are they starry-eyed for wanting to do the job they're training for?

It's like saying, "Back at the law school, two starry-eyed male students tell me they are determined to become lawyers."

Or ""Back at the university, two starry-eyed veterinary students tell me they are determined to become vets."

No kidding. But if they were asked to choose between their careers or their families, which would it be? I would expect most people would choose family over career, male or female. What kind of question is that? Unless they mean starting a family vs a career.

How about instead of limiting the number of female pupils, you say that in exchange for subsidised studies all medical graduates must work for, say, three years in public hospitals or clinics.

WishIWasWonderwoman Fri 28-Aug-15 22:34:40

And yes to what the human rights lawyer was saying.

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