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I've heard of this kind of thing, but still shocked to see it.

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run2 · 10/06/2015 18:46

I'm sorry if this is old news. I came across this site, Return of Kings dot com, as I heard they were boycotting the new Mad Max film for being too feminist.

I can't help looking at it, I am so what the actual fuck?! Kind of hoping its a joke, but I know it's not....

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WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 10/06/2015 19:00

I can't see it on the link but if it's the same one as I saw before it's hilarious - doesn't he rant about how feminists have ruined this all american story? Classic!

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run2 · 10/06/2015 19:30

There are lots of different 'contributers' I think.

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BriarRainbowshimmer · 10/06/2015 19:34

I think it might be a bad idea to link directly to that type of site.
Don't want them to come visit MN.

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run2 · 10/06/2015 19:39

? Does a link go both ways?

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 10/06/2015 19:51

No, but they vanity search and tend to invade. Mostly because they are sad fucks who get all ruffled when they know the women can see through their bullshit lies.

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run2 · 10/06/2015 19:56

Oh ok. I'll ask for it to be de linked. But then no one will know what I am referring to?
Also if anyone knows about it - whats the deal? Has anyone met these folk in real life? Plus the guy whos talk is being promoted looks like he has crab hands...

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ChunkyPickle · 10/06/2015 20:29

ACtually, it is worse than vanity searching - when you follow a link, the site you came from is passed in the header, so they can follow it straight back.

If you type in the URL rather than click the link that's fine though - perhaps with a bit of englishising it (eg. Chunky dot pickle)

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IonaMumsnet · 10/06/2015 20:33

Evening folks. Just wanted to let you all know we've edited the first post on this thread at the OP's request. As you were!

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DrJacoby · 10/06/2015 20:33

I saw this site a couple of weeks ago, someone sent me a link to a diatribe about women with short hair and how awful they looked. They'd chosen a pic of Jennifer Lawrence with short hair to illustrate their "point". LOL.

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run2 · 10/06/2015 20:40

I didn't know any of that. Have requested change already.

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run2 · 10/06/2015 20:43

I want to find it funny and I know the best thing to do is just ignore, but in truth I actually find it...frightening.

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SillyStuffBiting · 10/06/2015 20:50

It's quite funny until you remember these guys are for real.

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DrJacoby · 10/06/2015 20:53

They are the kind of guys who keep very quiet IRL and then spout off online.

They also hate homosexuals and Jews on that site. It's just fear and insecurity, they're not life's movers and shakers and want someone to pin their failures on.

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AtomicDog · 10/06/2015 20:55

Just read the comments on the Telegraph website, particularly those beneath articles in the women's section. You'll soon realise that people do actually think like this, and feminism has destroyed the world, over the last 30 years women have ruined everything etc Hmm

Thankfully they seem to spend all day posting on there, so they obviously don't get out much Wink

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WhirlpoolGalaxyM51 · 10/06/2015 21:03

I do wonder that these days most people know they aren't supposed to say things that are sexist, same as racism, homophobia. In workplaces and stuff, people know what they should not say.

It doesn't stop them thinking it though. And yes spouting off online. I think that a lot of the progress in society, yes we have progressed, but some of it, for some people, too many, it's a veneer. They talk the talk but in their hearts the old attitudes remain.

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grumpyuncleR · 10/06/2015 21:16

They are mostly a bunch of anonymous online windbags, along with the so called "voice for men" site. All of them combined probably have about the same level of support as that "man and boys" eegit who got a paltry number of votes in the recent british election. Most people in the real world are not even aware of their existence.
They are regularly lampooned on the anti-misogyny website
wehuntedthemammoth.com/

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BriarRainbowshimmer · 10/06/2015 21:17

run2 I too find it scary that these men and their opinions are real. It can be easy to laught at the more ridiculous MRA stuff but male hatred and entitlement towards women isn't harmless.

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ChunkyPickle · 11/06/2015 09:54

In morbid curiosity I clicked on a page and found myself reading about a bloke who had literally moved country to find a place where he could get to sleep with more women, and he was doing the sums on moving back to another country because he felt that his odds would be better.

His life revolved around being a pick up artist (I assume professionally - he probably does blogs and talks to make money judging by his article). It was weird - the way he talked made it sound like it was a hobby like stamp collecting or birdwatching - he really had reduced dating (dating is the wrong word - he didn't want a relationship, just sex) to trainspotting.

It really is a whole other world for some people, I just can't imagine hanging my entire life up on one that thing, it just seems so.. empty - sex is a side dish to the rest of your life, not a sole purpose.

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gatewalker · 11/06/2015 10:06

These, and other kinds of sites and behaviours and incidents, are only going to increase in number, imo. The patriarchy will not go out without a fight - sometimes to the death.

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OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 11/06/2015 15:21

I agree gatewalker - today I saw someone comment that "Feminism is the most dangerous threat to our society - and I include Islamist extremists in my statement"

There are people out there who think it's their God given right to treat women like dirt and they're not giving up easily.

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sashh · 11/06/2015 15:22

Just discussing this with my cousin who lives in Oz, she went to see it with three men so says she 'scoffs at his boycott'

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sashh · 12/06/2015 08:37

It's quite funny until you remember these guys are for real.

I have a male friend who I occasionally have had 'discussions about feminism' with, usually after alcohol. He is really lovely and his lack of understanding I think stems from the fact there are so many things he wouldn't do and struggles to understand how anyone else could. I mean he knows things happen but thinks they are rare - anyway I'm rambling.

We now have a truce that we do not discuss it, but we do show each other examples both good and bad and he loves the 'Norman Awards'.

I phoned him yesterday to tell him about the 'boycott' and he groaned and well I could hear him shaking his head.

The point of this post and the quote above is that I think just showing this to the decent men in our lives actually does quite a lot to raise awareness.

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SolidGoldBrass · 12/06/2015 13:49

I file them under 'unintentionally hilarious needledicks.' They're mostly sat in damp basements in nothing but stained underpants, bashing their keyboards all day.

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run2 · 13/06/2015 19:13

Sashh - Yes I agree. It must be frustrating for guys that find sexism completely alien to them, but it is also the case they may not have a full grasp of some of the issues because of this, and we need these kind of men on side.

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