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Why can't we have a 'Stand up to violence against women night'?

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Scarletohello · 17/10/2014 22:29

Whilst I applaud the ideals of the Stand up to cancer tonight, I wonder why we can't have a similar night against violence towards women, raising money for charities such as Rape Crisis, Women's Aid, Refuge, Karma Nivarna and raising awareness on these issues?

Will it ever happen??

Probably not. But why...?

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YonicScrewdriver · 17/10/2014 22:47

Was Reclaim the Night fundraising or protest?

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Cherrypi · 17/10/2014 22:50

Yes that could do with more awareness raising and also research into why men hate women so much and what can be done to change it.

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PuffinsAreFicticious · 17/10/2014 23:31

I wonder if we started talking to Rape Crisis, WA, Refuge et al what they would say? I can't see a problem, in fact is would be bloody amazing, although I forsee a whole pile of whataboutery making it difficult to pull off. We can't possibly have men faced with what their fellow men are doing to women, can we? It might fuck with their chi too much.

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Damsilli · 17/10/2014 23:33

Organise it. Not difficult.

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PuffinsAreFicticious · 17/10/2014 23:41

Yeah.... national things like stand up to cancer are really easy to just organise. Should only take an afternoon.....

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ballsballsballs · 17/10/2014 23:45

90% of programming would describe how NAMALT, 5% to violence against women and 5% to violence against men (in the interests of fairness).

I'm not sure many celebs would want to get involved because, you know, NAMALT.

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Scarletohello · 17/10/2014 23:50

Yes I wonder which celebs would be willing to put their heads above the parapet to support such a cause..?

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Scarletohello · 17/10/2014 23:53

Sometimes I think about how many men play at being super heroes with their video games but wouldn't be willing to be a hero in real life and act as a role model to other men to treat women with respect and not abuse them. Isn't that what being a 'real' man is all about? (Rather than being a man child and getting your kicks from living a fantasy world?)

Just a thought...

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gincamparidryvermouth · 18/10/2014 00:45

90% of programming would describe how NAMALT, 5% to violence against women and 5% to violence against men (in the interests of fairness)

Nailed it.

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caroldecker · 18/10/2014 01:03

So dismiss the idea out of hand and sit on a safe thread and do nothing, whilst blaming others for it not happening?
At least try.

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DunedinSunshine · 18/10/2014 02:05

In the US, October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month. There are fundraising and community awareness events in every state, usually organized at the local level through domestic violence agencies, but with some national coordination. Could something like that work?

www.ncadv.org/takeaction/DomesticViolenceAwarenessMonth.php

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DunedinSunshine · 18/10/2014 02:19
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cadno · 18/10/2014 09:03

Puffins

We can't possibly have men faced with what their fellow men are doing to women, can we? It might fuck with their chi too much

Don't worry about that. I think we very probably will be able to see it through. (I do not even know if I have any 'chi'. I did spend two years in Nepal - might be some stashed some away then). Mind you, thanks for the thought. Smile

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MrsBuffyCockhead · 18/10/2014 09:06

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AlpacaYourThings · 18/10/2014 09:08

What's NAMALT? Confused

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cadno · 18/10/2014 09:15

Its a dismissing tactic to a genuine 'fly in the ointment'

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ubersquiz · 18/10/2014 09:20

As a man I have to say the amount of stereotyping (you know the thing none of you want to be a victim of) is frankly quite shocking and offensive.

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YonicScrewdriver · 18/10/2014 09:23

Welcome to MN, uber. I see you've been busy in the last 12 hours, including visiting the little used Theory section. Gosh.

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ubersquiz · 18/10/2014 09:25

Sorry but if you're going to take a patronising tone with me I'm not going to converse with you. Only grown ups.

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AlpacaYourThings · 18/10/2014 09:28

I love it when posts start "As a man" it cuts a lot of reading time as I know the rest of the post is going to be utter wank and I can ignore it and move on.

Thanks cadno Smile

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YonicScrewdriver · 18/10/2014 09:29

Oh no! I'm so sad.

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Whowouldfardelsbear · 18/10/2014 09:33

In New Zealand we have White Ribbon MONTH to raise awareness/campaign against violence against women. A lot of NZ celeb men get involved and there is a run down the main street of Wellington with a load of men all holding a long white ribbon. You see the All Blacks etc wearing the white ribbons and a lot of publicity.

I found this link that says it is an international campaign, but I don;t remember ever seeing anything about it when I lived in the UK.

whiteribbon.org.nz/

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ubersquiz · 18/10/2014 09:36

The thing is, you can't ever expect to rid society of stereotypes if you keep clinging on to them. Things like men being children if they play games etc. That's just plain offensive. Everyone uses escapism from time to time. Be it through books or television of any other number of mediums.

The patronising tone you take does nothing to warm men to coming over to fight for you, if anything it does quite the opposite.

I'm guessing some of you have already formed opinions of me without even knowing me. That's a shame. Because I'm a progressive egalitarian and I have every respect for human beings regardless of race/gender/religion/sexuality.

If you want people to listen to you and take you seriously, its far more effective to stick to facts rather than projecting stereotypes which does nothing other than split opinion even further.

Did you not watch Emma Thomson's speech at the UN? You're exhibiting the exact behaviour she spoke about.

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YonicScrewdriver · 18/10/2014 09:38

By the way, if you really want to converse with people, do you think digging through a number of old threads and posting your disagreement on each one along the lines of "feminism has gone too far" "men are objectified in porn too" "what's all this fuss about page 3?" etc is the way to do it? Or do you think picking one topic you genuinely want to discuss viewpoints on would serve you better?

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YonicScrewdriver · 18/10/2014 09:39

Emma Watson.

Yes we did. There's a thread on here; surprised you didn't spot it in your trawling.

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