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This is fucking disgraceful (Daily Mail)

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rootypig · 26/05/2014 16:09

Daily Mail is framing a teenage girl as being at the root of the Santa Barbara shootings, because she 'teased' the perpetrator (according to his 'manifesto'). They have posted pictures of her (with her face pixelated, some concession), in varying states of undress, of course (bikinis, short shorts, things that best fit the narrative).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2639555/Meet-model-named-Santa-Barbara-killer-reason-saw-women-mean-cruel-heartless-creatures.html

I loathe them already, but this has shocked me. The poor girl. How can they get away with this?

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Linskibinski · 26/05/2014 16:13

I saw that, felt exactly the same. It's a shocking thing to do to a young girl. I hope she sues their asses.Sad

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TereseaGreen · 26/05/2014 16:20

That's beyond disgusting. Victim blaming at its finest. Most of us are rejected at some point, we get over it and move on.

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quietbatperson · 26/05/2014 16:25

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KoalaFace · 26/05/2014 16:28

Sad the DM properly hates women doesn't it?

I mean I know it hates everyone except for rich, white, males but it's still depressing.

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SarahAndFuck · 26/05/2014 16:28

Perhaps very likely as it will be all over the internet.

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SnapeAndLily · 26/05/2014 16:31

The DM online has a massive American readership - to the point that afaik, it uses American English than British (could be wrong about this bit though).

Awful stuff. Poor girl Sad

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Nancy66 · 26/05/2014 16:50

She was named in his manifesto which is available all over the internet.

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SpittinFevvers · 26/05/2014 16:53

Some girls CAN be absolutely bitches, you know!

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FloraFox · 26/05/2014 16:55

^^ what is the fucking point of this post?

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PetiteRaleuse · 26/05/2014 17:08

Disgusting but unsurprising.

nancy you surely can't justify the mail's article? She may have been named in the manifesto but look at how they have slanted the article and pictures.

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rootypig · 26/05/2014 17:10

Re naming her - the DM isn't just naming her though, in fact it doesn't name her, which is very interesting on a couple of levels. In part it's driven by the legal requirements no doubt. But it also enables the dehumanising of her, she is every slut, for want of a better phrase. It is identifying her in other, much more damaging ways, showing pictures of her body, highlighting aspects of her lifestyle, insidiously shaming her and juxtaposing it with the murderer's blame for her. And I think just because something is on the internet, doesn't mean it should be in our national papers. People will find anything if they go looking for it on the internet. Journalism surely is informed by some kind of ethical standards?

Spittin, would you like to elaborate?

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Itsfab · 26/05/2014 17:11

No one in their right mind will blame this woman for the fact that 7 people are dead.

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SpittinFevvers · 26/05/2014 17:13

I had a girl in our road torment, belittle, jeer at, and be a total bitch to my son for nearly 2 years. She nearly gave my son a nervous breakdown. THAT'S what I meant, that SOME girls can drive other people to breakdowns.

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mrsruffallo · 26/05/2014 17:15

You do know you are bumping up their viewing figures linking to that?

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SuburbanRhonda · 26/05/2014 17:19

Perhaps you should have helped your DS build up some resilience, Spittin, rather than come on here and make comments that seem to support men shooting women who upset them.

Shock

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Itsfab · 26/05/2014 17:20

Hardly the same, Spittin. No one is dead in your story.

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EddieStobbart · 26/05/2014 17:22

Oh, she won't be missing the article even though it is in a UK based publication - they've been in touch with her for a comment! Oddly enough, she's yet to reply.

Fuckers.

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Nancy66 · 26/05/2014 17:22

I don't think it's that bad, no.

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SpittinFevvers · 26/05/2014 17:23

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BethDaze · 26/05/2014 17:23

The amount of people (mostly men) who are trying to pin this on women and now specific women/girls.

It's not us, it's the problem of a twisted young man who thought that he deserved an attractive blonde girlfriend and the attention of women because he was a 'nice guy' (if they have to say it, they probably aren't) and a 'superior gentlemen'. It's also a problem of the fringe communities that helped him foster his terrible misogynistic views and made him feel entitled to women, and angry when that didn't work out.

Articles like this don't even have to actively blame the woman for being at fault for this (which she was not), they just have to exist, the implication is enough and it's damaging and reinforcing a negative narrative on women.

/rant over.

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Nancy66 · 26/05/2014 17:23

you honestly think the DM were the only news organisation to contact her?

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Nancy66 · 26/05/2014 17:24

His manifesto felt exactly like reading Brett Easton Ellis' Less Than Zero

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SuburbanRhonda · 26/05/2014 17:25

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passmethewineplease · 26/05/2014 17:27

Its wrong to single that poor girl out.

He is at fault, nobody made him kill those innocent people.

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