This is fucking disgraceful (Daily Mail)

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rootypig Mon 26-May-14 16:09:50

Daily Mail is framing a teenage girl as being at the root of the Santa Barbara shootings, because she 'teased' the perpetrator (according to his 'manifesto'). They have posted pictures of her (with her face pixelated, some concession), in varying states of undress, of course (bikinis, short shorts, things that best fit the narrative).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2639555/Meet-model-named-Santa-Barbara-killer-reason-saw-women-mean-cruel-heartless-creatures.html

I loathe them already, but this has shocked me. The poor girl. How can they get away with this?

Linskibinski Mon 26-May-14 16:13:45

I saw that, felt exactly the same. It's a shocking thing to do to a young girl. I hope she sues their asses.sad

TereseaGreen Mon 26-May-14 16:20:04

That's beyond disgusting. Victim blaming at its finest. Most of us are rejected at some point, we get over it and move on.

quietbatperson Mon 26-May-14 16:25:04

Just be glad she is in the USA and the DM is in the UK. How likely is it that she will see the story?

KoalaFace Mon 26-May-14 16:28:51

sad the DM properly hates women doesn't it?

I mean I know it hates everyone except for rich, white, males but it's still depressing.

SarahAndFuck Mon 26-May-14 16:28:56

Perhaps very likely as it will be all over the internet.

SnapeAndLily Mon 26-May-14 16:31:10

The DM online has a massive American readership - to the point that afaik, it uses American English than British (could be wrong about this bit though).

Awful stuff. Poor girl sad

Nancy66 Mon 26-May-14 16:50:36

She was named in his manifesto which is available all over the internet.

SpittinFevvers Mon 26-May-14 16:53:42

Some girls CAN be absolutely bitches, you know!

FloraFox Mon 26-May-14 16:55:52

^^ what is the fucking point of this post?

everlong Mon 26-May-14 17:06:35

Wtf is that meant to mean spittingfevvers?
' some girls CAN be absolute bitches, you know! '

PetiteRaleuse Mon 26-May-14 17:08:56

Disgusting but unsurprising.

nancy you surely can't justify the mail's article? She may have been named in the manifesto but look at how they have slanted the article and pictures.

rootypig Mon 26-May-14 17:10:49

Re naming her - the DM isn't just naming her though, in fact it doesn't name her, which is very interesting on a couple of levels. In part it's driven by the legal requirements no doubt. But it also enables the dehumanising of her, she is every slut, for want of a better phrase. It is identifying her in other, much more damaging ways, showing pictures of her body, highlighting aspects of her lifestyle, insidiously shaming her and juxtaposing it with the murderer's blame for her. And I think just because something is on the internet, doesn't mean it should be in our national papers. People will find anything if they go looking for it on the internet. Journalism surely is informed by some kind of ethical standards?

Spittin, would you like to elaborate?

Itsfab Mon 26-May-14 17:11:47

No one in their right mind will blame this woman for the fact that 7 people are dead.

SpittinFevvers Mon 26-May-14 17:13:11

I had a girl in our road torment, belittle, jeer at, and be a total bitch to my son for nearly 2 years. She nearly gave my son a nervous breakdown. THAT'S what I meant, that SOME girls can drive other people to breakdowns.

mrsruffallo Mon 26-May-14 17:15:38

You do know you are bumping up their viewing figures linking to that?

SuburbanRhonda Mon 26-May-14 17:19:18

Perhaps you should have helped your DS build up some resilience, Spittin, rather than come on here and make comments that seem to support men shooting women who upset them.

shock

Itsfab Mon 26-May-14 17:20:24

Hardly the same, Spittin. No one is dead in your story.

Nancy66 Mon 26-May-14 17:22:20

I don't think it's that bad, no.

EddieStobbart Mon 26-May-14 17:22:20

Oh, she won't be missing the article even though it is in a UK based publication - they've been in touch with her for a comment! Oddly enough, she's yet to reply.

Fuckers.

SpittinFevvers Mon 26-May-14 17:23:03

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BethDaze Mon 26-May-14 17:23:04

The amount of people (mostly men) who are trying to pin this on women and now specific women/girls.

It's not us, it's the problem of a twisted young man who thought that he deserved an attractive blonde girlfriend and the attention of women because he was a 'nice guy' (if they have to say it, they probably aren't) and a 'superior gentlemen'. It's also a problem of the fringe communities that helped him foster his terrible misogynistic views and made him feel entitled to women, and angry when that didn't work out.

Articles like this don't even have to actively blame the woman for being at fault for this (which she was not), they just have to exist, the implication is enough and it's damaging and reinforcing a negative narrative on women.

/rant over.

Nancy66 Mon 26-May-14 17:23:32

you honestly think the DM were the only news organisation to contact her?

Nancy66 Mon 26-May-14 17:24:32

His manifesto felt exactly like reading Brett Easton Ellis' Less Than Zero

SuburbanRhonda Mon 26-May-14 17:25:27

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