Diane Abbott's portrait

(51 Posts)
ThisOneAndThatOne Mon 13-Jan-14 15:48:23

I think it is important to continue our historical record by having portraits made of politicians. So this is not a thread about the cost.

I am just really taken aback that the portrait of our most famous black female MP shows her without clothing (just head and shoulders).

What does everyone else think?

Will find a link and post in a sec.

ThisOneAndThatOne Mon 13-Jan-14 15:49:37
NigellasDealer Mon 13-Jan-14 15:51:37

i think that is weird and she should not have agreed to it, she had her portrait done becasue she is an MP not a swimmer or a porn star

Very odd that she should be without clothes confused

SirChenjin Mon 13-Jan-14 15:56:46

Shouldn't that be most infamous, rather than famous wink

I think it presents her in a very informal light, and probably not appropriate as someone who holds the level of power she does - but then, Diane Abbott is not known for her appropriateness.

Freyalright Mon 13-Jan-14 16:22:52

I can't stand Diane. Why not just have a photograph wearing her day to day clothes. Anyway, I hope they kept the receipt. Not a flattering portrait.

ThisOneAndThatOne Mon 13-Jan-14 16:40:14

I am not a fan of Diane either.

But if we want our female representatives to be remembered as seriously as our male ones. Then surely a more serious setting would be more appropriate.

It looks like she is just off for a bath rather than giving an important speech in the house!

Would any of our male politicians agree to such a portrait?

Sounds like a good feminist art project: to paint male MPs like this.

TiggyOBE Mon 13-Jan-14 19:56:57

I think the painting is crap. Her head goes onto her body, but the body doesn't look like it's got any shape to it, or even arms. And her face kind of looks unrealistic. Like somebody with lots of good quality prosthetics on to look like Dianne Abott.

I'm fine with paintings of MPs.

Mitchy1nge Mon 13-Jan-14 23:16:46

black women pretty much have to be naked don't they, do you remember the M&S ads where it was always the woman-of-colour dancing around in her pants or Lily Allen's recent video

it's some sort of law of the memory of colonialism or something

Back2Basics Mon 13-Jan-14 23:28:29

^ what mitchy said

MomsStiffler Mon 13-Jan-14 23:36:47

That's £11k well spent then.....

She could have got 4 passport photos for a fiver....

I don't think any of them should have a portrait that they're not prepared to pay for & donate....

MomsStiffler Mon 13-Jan-14 23:38:34

Sorry OP - just re-read & saw it's not about the cost.

To be fair - who decided the pose & clothing (or lack) - it may well have been her choice/suggestion. I'm fairly confident she wouldn't have done it if she didn't want to...

Casmama Mon 13-Jan-14 23:43:37

Weird and doesn't really look like her either!

SirChenjin Tue 14-Jan-14 07:58:14

Agree with Mom - can't imagine Diane not agreeing to this but being somehow forced to. Which again demonstrates her general lack of judgement.

MomsStiffler Tue 14-Jan-14 08:17:39

I don't use Twatter myself, but surely someone that does could just ask her?

Would potentially save a few MN blood-vessels from prematurely bursting ....

QueenThora Tue 14-Jan-14 08:25:31

Like somebody with lots of good quality prosthetics on to look like Dianne Abott.

That is such a great description! I was thinking the same (in not such perfect words) - her features look weird, fake and slightly exaggerated. It's awful and that's apart from the naked thing.

I don't have a problem with a clothes-free portrait if they all had the same treatment. When it's a woman, and a black woman, who is the only one that's naked it starts to look distinctly dodgy.

As an aside I LOVE the portrait of Tony Blair. I don't like him much, but I think the painting is amazing – sums up not just what he looks like but his slightly unsettling air. You look at it and you can't decide if that's an expression of moral fortitude or something more sinister. Brilliant.

QueenThora Tue 14-Jan-14 08:32:08

And the general effect is just as dodgy even if she did contribute to the decision. As a feminist I would not be going there if I knew all the men were going to be clothed – even if I fancied being naked – because of the message it sends.

woodrunner Tue 14-Jan-14 08:37:37

I've just had a look at that portrait and it looks to me as though she is wearing a neutral/flesh coloured round necked top. Take another look at the neck line. But it is ambiguous, and certainly doesn't give her much dignity.

Doingthestats Tue 14-Jan-14 08:50:53

I have been in the House of Commons and Portcullis house a few times and have seen plenty of these portraits. They are all formal, okay some are just head and shoulders but they are wearing clothes!

I think the actual quality of the work is not good but I agree the whole looks naked yet again detracts from women being taken seriously.

I am not white and whilst all women can and are objectified when you are a woman of colour or whatever the correct term is, sorry I can't always keep up with the correct terminology and I don't mind that. I can honestly say my skin colour has absolutely been bought in to sexual harassment over the years and the whole is your vagina the same as a white woman's crap.

Diane has done a huge disservice to all women regardless of skin colour or ethnicity but Mitchy is spot on with this further aspect of it all.

QueenThora Tue 14-Jan-14 08:50:53

I see what you mean but it's very vague and the colour of the top, if it's a top, varies a lot as skin would. So she's either naked or wearing a top that's designed to imitate nakedness, which is a bit weird.

OTOH maybe she was dressed but wearing a top like this

Still think the portrait looks dodgy in the context of the others, however.

QueenThora Tue 14-Jan-14 08:51:37

I like Betty Boothroyd's - glam, but formal clothes and a "don't you dare mess with me" demeanour grin

SabrinaMulhollandJjones Tue 14-Jan-14 10:08:19

I don't like it at all, it doesn't even look like her. Don't know why she has to appear naked. I really like the pic of her that Queenthora linked to, though.

I like Betty Boothroyd's, and Tony Blair's is v.v. flattering. wink I bet he was chuffed.

Beachcomber Tue 14-Jan-14 11:41:05

What Mitchy said (hi mitchy!).

Black woman portrayed in her natural animalistic state.

I wonder if they would have tried it with a white woman. I doubt it.

Mitchy1nge Tue 14-Jan-14 11:43:40

hi beach smile am waving excitedly and hoping you are well without in any way hijacking thread

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