So many evil men...can't stand it

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SplitHeadGirl Fri 01-Nov-13 20:21:37

First of all, I know fully well that men will get upset at what I think and am about to say, so I would like to clarify that I am talking about EVIL men, not the good, wonderful dads and granddads and husbands and nice single blokes out there....the ones who I KNOW (my brain, not my gut, tells me so) are in a majority, but who seem to be few (is it their deafening silence?)

But any fool can see that the sheer amount of men, who are prepared to do unspeakable things to women and girls (and boys as well as other men, not to mention the vulnerable and the elderly...wow, the list goes on) is just overwhelming. I read today about Anene Booysen, and I was absolutely heartbroken, but yet not shocked. For men to be so diabolical to women is not shocking anymore, and that is men's greatest tragedy.

I have two little daughters, and a little son, and I fear for them at the hands of men. Not women...just men.

I feel like I am thinking out loud with this post, so no worries if no one feels they can respond. I just wish I didn't feel so helpless at the tsunami of male violence.

Treen44444 Fri 01-Nov-13 20:40:08

Is it something that has personally happened to you? There is lots of support on here for you

SplitHeadGirl Fri 01-Nov-13 20:46:04

Well, my dad has been married to my mum for 51 years and is more devoted every single day, and has been a fantastic provider for mum and his six kids....my husband is the best husband and father anyone could wish for, my male friends are funny and cute and compassionate and active.....mmmnnnnn...just a guess but no i think I'm ok there!!

Maybe, just MAYBE, I am aware of how ROTTEN so many men can be without it being tied into some experience I am supposed to have had.hmm

Treen44444 Fri 01-Nov-13 20:50:05

You sound like you have been shown and are showing your daughters healthy male role models. I suspect and hope she will have a life like yours regarding men.

I understand your fear, but don't instill it. Instill respect, common sense and awareness

kim147 Fri 01-Nov-13 20:56:44

In York in the last 2 weeks, a woman was murdered in her apartment (probably by an aquaintance) and a 20 yr old woman was kidnapped and raped 3 times. In what is normally a peaceful city.

It's awful the violence towards women that is out there.

SplitHeadGirl Fri 01-Nov-13 21:05:51

Kim, exactly!!! It just seems to be everywhere. Women and girls are raped and killed at an unprecedented level and it feels like no one really (apart from some female voices) gives a shit. You get men going...'Where are the feminists..?' when a girl gets killed overseas. Well, what the HELL are MEN doing about their ow sex killing women and girls??

NOTHING as far as I can see!!! Men sit back and moan about WOMEN not doing enough to stop MEN from killing us.....the irony would be laughable if it wasn't so damn sick and tragic.

I'm sorry for sounding angry but by God I am angry!!!! That story about Anene in S Africa really affected me today.

SplitHeadGirl Fri 01-Nov-13 21:11:38

Treen...I'm sorry to be short with you!!! Just so sick of men getting away with murder....literally...every day!!!

NoComet Fri 01-Nov-13 21:12:50

Since the people who have caused me greatest misery, anger and sadness in my life are all Female, I can't agree OP.

The only person who made primary school bearable for DD1 was a boy, when all the girls just ignored her.

Female evil is often in a thousand small actions rather than one great wrong, but that doesn't make it any less evil.

Treen44444 Fri 01-Nov-13 21:16:04

Split, that's fine

kim147 Fri 01-Nov-13 21:17:06

There was a 13yr old girl in Pakistan who was raped repeatedly and then buried alive in a shallow grave. She managed to claw her way out.

So much hate towards women in the world.

NoComet Fri 01-Nov-13 21:21:53

And female evil also kills, it kills by centimetres, by destroying self-esteem, by forcing fellow women in to anorexia, by Internet bullying girls into suicide, by leaving women feeling so worthless they self harm, drink take drugs.

I'm not saying that men don't take advantage of vulnerable women, but why are those women vulnerable?

Why did I spend so much time alone with a teacher who I think would have slept with me.

Because the fucking girls who should have been my friends bullied me and left me looking for a bolt hole.

Why didn't I sleep with him, because my wonderful DDad and DM made home a haven and I didn't need to seek love elsewhere.

EarthMither Fri 01-Nov-13 21:35:29

SplitHeadGirl, you have every right to feel outrage in the face of a seemingly relentless tide of male violence against women and girls. It is appalling and heart-breaking, and I think you have it exactly right to describe it as a tragedy. And you don't have to have direct experience of MVAWG to feel sorrow and anger about this.

naicar Fri 01-Nov-13 21:37:00

www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SjV17hT_D0

Newsflash- people of BOTH genders do horrible things, such as the woman in the video above who was caught stealing money from the handbag of an elderly dementia sufferer while being employed to care from her.

She got a very light slap on the wrist- some community service plus pay back the money she stole.

naicar Fri 01-Nov-13 21:39:21

by forcing fellow women in to anorexia

Just by general observation, don't you think obesity is a more serious problem (for both genders) than anorexia today in the UK?

It's uncommon for me to see someone I would class as anorexic or even underweight, but everywhere I look I see fat men, fat women and fat children.

EarthMither Fri 01-Nov-13 21:40:47

Have you got any youtube links for women raping and/or beating and/or murdering men, naicar? Because that is what this thread is about, not petty theft.

naicar Fri 01-Nov-13 21:41:14

"Well, what the HELL are MEN doing about their ow sex killing women and girls??"

And why should men who aren't criminals take responsibility for the men who are? Criminals are responsible for their own actions.

EarthMither Fri 01-Nov-13 21:41:57

Most violent criminals are men, naicar.

naicar Fri 01-Nov-13 21:43:22

I wouldn't say my linked example was "petty". It was a serious breach of trust by a supposed care worker against one of the most vulnerable members of society.

naicar Fri 01-Nov-13 21:44:08

Most violent criminals are men, naicar.

Even if that is true, it doesn't mean most men are violent criminals.

RoxanneReidsChafingFishnets Fri 01-Nov-13 21:44:22

Its not just evil men or evil women.

Its just evil people. Their gender/sex shouldn't matter.

I've had bad experiences with men.

BasilBabyEater Fri 01-Nov-13 21:51:49

It's simply not possible to have an honest acknowledgement that men as a class have a massive problem with violence, without people desperately wanting to pretend that women are just as threatening and just as debilitating to society.

Boys also bully other boys and men also steal from vulnerable people. But women don't on the whole, rape and murder men because they get some kind of power kick from it.

People jsut don't want to hear this OP, good luck with fending off the "wotaboutthenarstywimminz" contingent. hmm

SplitHeadGirl Fri 01-Nov-13 21:55:48

Thanks Earth. I have to say that my DIRECT interaction with men has been pretty wonderful.....but I count myself THANKFUL in that. Can you believe that?? That I as a woman am THANKFUL that the men in my life have treated me well!!! That tells me strongly something is wrong here!!!

Naicar I asked my husband once if he felt ashamed or guilty or even embarrassed as a man, that SO MANY of his sex seemed to be on a massive rampage against women and girls...and he said no, that they were so far removed from him as a person that why should he??

Funny, then, that I feel ashamed or at least guilty by association, when a woman does something terrible. Maybe I know that men will condemn me that way, when ironically none of the damn men would EVER condemn themselves that way!!!! It all sickens me!!

SplitHeadGirl Fri 01-Nov-13 22:03:04

Thanks Basil....I included a disclaimer in the hope that apologists of male violence would be kept at bay...but no luck!!! it seems that NOTHING...not even a story like Anene's, can keep these people quiet!!!

I HATE stupid, dangerous apologists for men's violence!

RoxanneReidsChafingFishnets Fri 01-Nov-13 22:04:12

Its not all fucking men been violent though!

I wont tar them all with the same brush and if you want to start screaming apologist around then fucking go for it.

BringBackBod Fri 01-Nov-13 22:09:35

SplitHeadGirl Do you really feel guilty by association when a woman does something terrible? I don't, and I can't understand why you would.

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