A TED Talk That Might Turn Every Man Who Watches It Into A Feminist?

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BuffytheAppleBobber Fri 18-Oct-13 13:27:00

I thought this was quite good.

garlicvampire Sun 27-Oct-13 18:47:04

Or should that be misandristic? Misandric? confused
Nice deletions, anyway.

garlicvampire Sun 27-Oct-13 18:42:40

In that case, I'm rather impressed by the misandrogenistic speed with which his/her posts were deleted smile

Grennie Sun 27-Oct-13 17:12:23

And he probably thinks it is misandry that we are not all agreeing with him.

Grennie Sun 27-Oct-13 17:11:56

He means he doesn't care about women at all. He just came on to lecture as about the poor menz.

kim147 Sun 27-Oct-13 17:02:12

You mean you are not responsible for men's violence.

But do you, as a man, want to see a world where there is less male violence - both towards women and towards men?

You don't have to pick physical fights. But campaigning, talking, etc - wouldn't that help make a better world?

Of course you can seem powerless when it's all around you. You think what can I do - it's out of my control. I'm only one person.

But if we thought like that, nothing would change and nothing ever would change.

Male violence exists. It's harmful to society.

WMittens Sun 27-Oct-13 17:02:02

mediarek

is not my responsibility

As I said before, 'responsibility for violence committed' is your strawman and not the message of the video.

WMittens Sun 27-Oct-13 16:59:38

mediarek

"Educate" them? I'm not a school teacher.

You have a very limited understanding of the word 'educate'.

And what if my friends aren't violent?

Great! Convince them to spread the word too. Six degrees of separation etc. etc. they are going to know someone who knows someone who knows someone who is violent. That is how a cultural change happens.

mediarek Sun 27-Oct-13 16:57:33

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kim147 Sun 27-Oct-13 16:49:58

Do you ask a new dad if he will be altering his work for childcare? Discuss money in a relationship? Housework? Contraception?

BuffytheAnyAppleFucker Sun 27-Oct-13 16:48:15

We get it. You do not give a shit about male violence.

Um, not sure how you expect us to respond to this?

mediarek Sun 27-Oct-13 16:42:58

"Educate" them? I'm not a school teacher. And what if my friends aren't violent?

Grennie Sun 27-Oct-13 16:41:24

No. You just need to talk to the men you are friends with and educate them. Not so difficult if you care about these issues.

mediarek Sun 27-Oct-13 16:40:04

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Grennie Sun 27-Oct-13 16:39:41

So you leave women to deal with it and to educate men?

mediarek Sun 27-Oct-13 16:39:05

Debating and challenging them with words.

And why is it the responsibility of non-violent men to get involved with violent-men again?

Challenge the wrong person and that would basically be asking for trouble.

Grennie Sun 27-Oct-13 16:38:27

I will book my ticket immediately to visit Sharom and tell her how wrong she is.

mediarek Sun 27-Oct-13 16:37:20

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kim147 Sun 27-Oct-13 16:35:42

Picking fights and vigilante groups?

Male violence again. You have heard about speaking to your friends. Debating and challenging them with words.

You don't need to use violence to solve problems.

Grennie Sun 27-Oct-13 16:30:19

So what are you doing medi to challenged the oppression of women by men as a class?

Oh I know! Coming on a thread about feminism and lecturing us about misandry. Nice one.

WMittens Sun 27-Oct-13 16:28:18

*effect, not affect

WMittens Sun 27-Oct-13 16:27:41

mediarek

all men should take responsibility

That's not how I understood it at all; I'm not taking responsibility for someone else committing an act of violence. It's about men taking action to affect a positive change.

Grennie Sun 27-Oct-13 16:26:26

Medi - I don't know feminists who agree with circumcision.

Grennie Sun 27-Oct-13 16:25:52

medi - Let's not deal in what ifs. Let's just accept that the whole anti misandrist movement has come out of men who are unhappy with even a basic level of feminism. Oh no, we have to pay child support - even though many still don't. Oh no, if we are violent to our kids we will only get supervised access, how unfair.

They are the disgraceful roots of the anti misandrist movement.

mediarek Sun 27-Oct-13 16:24:29

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