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"Dear Mrs John Smith...hows our customer service?"

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heidihole · 30/08/2013 09:53

Just a rant really as DH has just rolled his eyes and said "does it really matter"?

DH and I bought a house this week. Solicitors needed both our passports and utility bills. Our names are Mr John Smith and Miss Heidi Hole.

Today we received the deeds to the house in the post along with a letter to Mr and Mrs John Smith. "blah blah, pleased to confirm completion on the property, enclose deeds etc etc. Our firm is now featured on a website highlighting local business services. We'd be so grateful etc etc if you take some time to put some comments up about our services"

I'm so pissed off. I just gave them £2,000, they have my passport and utility bill so no danger they don't know my name and they have the CHEEK to get not only my surname wrong but also my first name (i'm not john)

Then to add insult to injury they ask me to write them a recommendation. I want to email them, in a friendly, non-irate way and point out how bloody pissed off they should take more care in future to avoid a brick through their window other customers being insulted in this way.

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slug · 30/08/2013 10:24

Try returning the letter with "No such person at this address" on it.

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pinkyredrose · 30/08/2013 11:12

Ask your DH if he'd like to be called Mr Heidi Hole.

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MissPlumBroughtALadder · 30/08/2013 11:17

I ALWAYS take companies to task over this. Nothing makes me angrier than the subsumation of a woman's identity. I've had some small successes. One online company I refused to buy from because their drop-down title menu only offered Mr/Miss/Mrs rewrote it to include Ms. (Despite my username I am very firmly a Ms!)

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FannyMcNally · 30/08/2013 11:22

This is a lazy mail shot and yes you should follow it up. Not good enough! It might be a joke to your DH but 'little' things matter.

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Woodhead · 30/08/2013 11:29

You should of course email them and politely pull them up on it. It may be sloppy computer coding but they should be able to manually sort that out, and the more people who complain the sooner these things will get fixed.

I've been having some problems with mailings from a charity recently, and the people I speak to are very helpful and apologetic, but they seem to have some dinosaur code that makes it difficult to get the automated system to behave itself. These things won't get corrected if noone complains though.

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UptoapointLordCopper · 30/08/2013 11:35

Pull them up on it. I had an incident like that yesterday too, but on the phone. From now on I'm practising three responses when I'm asked "Is that Miss or Mrs?":

"It's Dr" if I like them.

"How is that information relevant to the situation" if I don't like them but don't feel too upset.

And "actually it's fuck off" if I'm really cross. (Disclaimer: this option is suggested by DH ...)

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PoppyAmex · 30/08/2013 11:43

I'd send a snippy note correcting them and commenting that solicitors with that level of lack of attention to detail don't really inspire confidence.

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tribpot · 30/08/2013 11:52

So the solicitors have been obliged to perform an identity check in accordance with regulation - but then can't actually remember your name? I'd suggest that their due diligence and the accuracy of their record keeping requires attention - and is that really the message they'd like you to be giving to prospective customers?

Does it really matter? Yes it bloody well does.

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ApocalypseThen · 30/08/2013 13:56

I notice they got the name if the person to whom it's not a big deal right. I'd say it's not a big deal if they can treat you with due respect alright.

The electricty bill at ours is a DD from my personal account with my name and all that. Bills are still addressed to my husband.

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EduCated · 30/08/2013 14:03

I would phone them out of concern that they appear to have your details wrong, seeing as they've got your name wrong and you're ever so concerned they might have done their paperwork incorrectly.

Twits.

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Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme · 30/08/2013 14:10

Send them a cheque for payment from Mrs John Smith and then ignore all requests as they desperately try to cash it.

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heidihole · 30/08/2013 16:33

I will def email them. It isn't a computer generated thing I don't think as its mainly about our property that they just transferred for us.

Just so depressed that I gave them 2k and my passport and utility and they called me mrs John smith! I mean its not everyone that has a copy of your bloody passport in front of them when writing to you is it! And still they get it wrong. It's just so ingrained in society :(

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heidihole · 31/08/2013 16:35

I sent the email today. My DH thinks it was hugely over the top and I had "no call to write that". He doesn't see that there could be any link between a lack of attention to detail in knowing my name, and the potential that maybe they didn't do a complete boundary search (for example).. He just says IABU and the sale has gone through now so it doesn't matter. Of course his name was recorded correctly Hmm

Email copied below: (I've sent it now so too late to change!)

Dear Ms XXX,

I confirm receipt of your letter regarding the purchase of 'XXX', a transaction which ABC handled on behalf of my company, BBB Limited.

I would like to express my concern and disappointment that you have addressed your letter to me so utterly incorrectly. We received the letter addressed to "Mr and Mrs John Smith".

My name is Heidi Hole. ABC required a copy of my passport and bank statement in order to confirm identity. I was lead to believe that providing this proof of ID was vital.

Clearly your team has not read or recorded my ID anywhere. This leaves me hugely lacking in confidence about the attention to detail employed by ABC in the transaction which I paid roughly £2,000 for you to complete.

As an additional insult to injury, not only is my name, Heidi Hole, not on the letter, but I seem to have been reduced to a mere appendage of my husband. Mrs John Smith. I believe I will not be your only client under the age of 80 who would find this hugely offensive.

The irony is that your letter goes on to ask me to recommend your services on the XXX (local) website. If you are unable to correctly record your clients first and last name (whilst holding a copy of their passport) I certainly do not have enough confidence in the rest of your work to recommend you.

Kind regards

Ms Heidi Hole

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tribpot · 31/08/2013 17:10

An excellent letter. Shame your DH can't see what the problem is - let's hope the solicitor is able to figure it out.

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ShootMeNowPlease · 01/09/2013 19:42

Good letter. That ought to produce a grovelling response if the firm is serious about customer service...

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Rollermum · 02/09/2013 12:02

That's a great response and good on you for sending it. I let this sort of thing slide too often.

Hope you get a good reply soon.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 02/09/2013 12:21

Brilliant letter, good on you. Have you asked how your husband would have felt if it was addressed to Mr & Mrs Heidi Hole? Not so great I imagine.

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ChunkyPickle · 02/09/2013 14:15

The trouble in my experience is that DP doesn't mind if he's called by the wrong name - it would be funny to him because it doesn't ever happen and is clearly a mistake, and he'd get a grovelling apology.

In my case, it happens all the time so funnily enough I have less of a sense of humour over it.

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eurochick · 02/09/2013 14:21

Good letter. I would be ragey about this too.

Re: reversing the situation to ask how a man would feel - it is not a fair comparison as men don't have centuries of history regarding them as a mere chattel to contend with.

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Lio · 02/09/2013 16:17

Brava, Heidi. I look forward to hearing how they reply to you.

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bigkidsdidit · 02/09/2013 16:21

That's a great letter, well done.

I believe in the broken windows theory of feminism that it is only in pulling up little things like this repeatedly that big changes will be achieved.

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K8Middleton · 02/09/2013 16:26

I believe I will not be your only client under the age of 80 who would find this hugely offensive.

Snurk Grin

Yanbu. I would be furious with dh if he trivialised my identity and existence as a separate entity from him like yours has.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 02/09/2013 17:13

Ooh btw Heidi - I posted on MN ages ago about a friend named Heidi who came close to marrying a Mr Hole, and never even realised the joke.

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heidihole · 03/09/2013 09:56

Update: A grovelling reply. :)

Dear Ms Hole

I sincerely apologise for any offence my letter may have caused but am somewhat concerned that you are ?hugely lacking confidence? in our services.

My colleague XXX has carried out a very thorough investigation into title, reported in full and liaised with (DH) throughout this matter to bring the purchase by (your company) to completion. The error that has arisen is purely through my own fault having only liaised with (your DH) during my colleague, XXX's, absence on annual leave during a somewhat busy period, to include visiting your managing agent, to drop off keys, a service we do not normally offer.

Again my apologies, which was not intended to offend.

Regards

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I'm happy now, and hopefully if it's educated one person not to use Mr & Mrs John Smith it's worth it. Snail steps!

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heidihole · 03/09/2013 09:58

DH has now read this thread and has back peddled furiously. Claims never to have trivialised it, agrees wholeheartedly etc etc...funny that...faced with the unanimous support of all you posters, he suddenly agrees! :) He's a good guy, just struggles sometimes to fight off the brainwashing of society even though he knows deep down what is right and what isn't.

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