Relationships between school girls and teachers

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I was reading the National Enquirer. Yes, I know. I do read proper, enlightening, real news but I need something for the toilet too. There were two articles that struck me as weird and worth noting. One about Monica Lewinsky and one about Lauren Silverman, Simon Cowell's married GF.

Both mentioned that these women had been sexually abused relationships with married teachers at school. In both cases this was seen as evidence that the women were temptresses and morally bankrupt. 'Always been like this' was the message.

Now, I would think that even an idiot could see that a girl who was vulnerable and targeted by a male, older, married teacher might have some issues later on. I have no idea if they were under the age of consent when they were abused by these men. In both cases I know that the men were; older; married; in loco parentis; teachers FFS.

It's crap like this that makes me think that we have a huge mountain to climb. If I think that the women concerned may have problems with appropriate sexuality because of what happened to them and the NE is convinced that they were always to blame, even as children, how do we change that? Blaming child victims of sexual abuse? I have no idea.

TheDoctrineOfPositivityYes Tue 27-Aug-13 19:56:33

Hi arsenal

Is any grown man who goes PHWOARR to the Britney Spears "Hit Me Baby One More Time" a paedophile?

blueemerald Wed 28-Aug-13 10:37:52

When judges keep saying things like 'victim Morales (a 14 year school girl who was abused by her teacher and has since committed suicide) was "as much in control of the situation" as Rambold' (the abusive teacher) it's no wonder society's opinion isn't shifting any faster.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/27/stacy-rambold-raped-suicidal-student_n_3822640.html

arsenaltilidie Wed 28-Aug-13 18:39:53

theDoct err because Britney Spears is not a school pupil.

Bluee Funny how if you scroll down the list, most of the teachers who commit these crimes are women.

TheDoctrineOfPositivityYes Wed 28-Aug-13 19:18:55

Hi arsenal

Why do you think she is dressed as a school girl in that video, then?

She was 16 when the video was released.

BasilBabyEater Wed 28-Aug-13 21:27:39

Lots of 16 year olds still have to wear school uniforms.

And why is it OK to phwoar over an older woman dressed as a school girl? Why has a school uniform been a staple of porn and nudge nudge wink wink popular culture ever since girls started wearing them?

Funny how if you scroll down the list, most of the teachers who commit these crimes are women. Yeah, funny that. Do you think, considering the staggering, overwhelming likelihood that a sex offender will be a man, there might be some bias in the reporting there too? Or do you genuinely think that more sex offenders are women than men at which point I'm out because I don't argue with people without the mental capacity to reason?

arsenaltilidie Thu 29-Aug-13 18:10:26

The common sxhool fantasy doesn't interest me, Just like some women fantasy about rape etc. Fantasies are a whole thread.
A woman dressed in a school uniform is different to a child dressed in school uniform.
In real life, there is no situation I can think of where one can 'confuse' the two.

I was being ironic about how a link about male teacher abuser is actually full of female abusers who also ironically got a slep on the wrist.

I was being ironic.
It's not only men that are abusers.

AnyFucker Thu 29-Aug-13 18:17:46

It's not only men that are abusers.

House !

TheDoctrineOfPositivityYes Thu 29-Aug-13 18:26:10

Hi arsenal

You have stated that anyone who is 16 and under is a child.
You have stated that a grown man who goes Phwoar at school children is a paedophile.
Britney Spears was 16 in that video.
So are grown men who went Phwoar at it paedophiles?

arsenaltilidie Sun 01-Sep-13 07:37:10

In real life, there is no situation I can think of where one can 'confuse' two
I can't think of a real life situation other than some pop video.

BasilBabyEater Sun 01-Sep-13 10:04:54

So it's OK to go phwoar if it's a 16 year old in a pop video, but not if it's a 16 year old on her way to school?

<Incredulous> confused

curlew Sun 01-Sep-13 10:17:21

this makes interesting reading. Sorry if everyone's read it before.

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