Despicable me 2

(53 Posts)
NoComet Tue 06-Aug-13 15:59:48

I'm I the only person who was disappointed that the women spy/love interest was so stupidly thin.

cheeseandchive Tue 06-Aug-13 21:25:45

If there were 10 female characters and they were all thin, I think I would understand. But why shouldn't she be thin? Tall and thin is a body shape that many, many women have. Why are you disappointed?

Pootles2010 Tue 06-Aug-13 21:27:25

I don't have problem with thin? If she was sexualised, yes. Thin is just...thin though? Can't see issue tbh.

DioneTheDiabolist Tue 06-Aug-13 21:28:45

I am tall and stupidlyhmm thin. I don't understand why you see this body type as problematic to feminism.confused

stylenadlife Wed 07-Aug-13 00:07:24

Would you be happy if she had a 60 inch waist like el macho?

I have no issue with it.

NoComet Wed 07-Aug-13 00:29:19

I guess it was just really stereo typed. Fat ugly bald guy gets beautiful thin girl because he is interesting.

Round women were just comic bit parts.

I know it's only a cartoon and I think the stereo typing was a deliberate joke for adults, but having two DDs it still made me faintly annoyed she didn't look a bit less like a thin bendy stick of blue chewing gum in ridiculous heels

stylenadlife Wed 07-Aug-13 00:35:57

Lucy became attracted to Gru in the first place because he stole the moon. Maybe she likes "bad boys"?

DioneTheDiabolist Wed 07-Aug-13 01:54:18

Thin and angular don't mean beautiful any more than fat and round or oval and weird. Or any other woman's look. OP, I think you're overthinking this.

DioneTheDiabolist Wed 07-Aug-13 01:55:16

Or you have a problem with tall, thin, angular womensmile

MasterOfTheYoniverse Wed 07-Aug-13 02:27:31

Am with stylenadlife. Feisty redheads likes bad boy types.

LeStewpot Wed 07-Aug-13 10:17:28

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

runningforthebusinheels Wed 07-Aug-13 10:43:40

I can see what you're saying op - she wasn't just thin - she made a barbie doll look natural and in proportion!

On the other hand I loved her - she was so cool, she had the best gizmos much better than James Bond and she was equally heroic as the bloke iirc.

I'm much more disturbed by my dd wanting to watch things like winx club, where young school age girls have impossibly tiny waists, are dolled up in ridiculous outfits and way too girly and silly imo.

It got my 3 year old interested in lipstick....
I had more of an issue with how disposable the minions were. He didn't care that they were purple and evil, he only went back when the heroine was in trouble. It's a class thing. grin

smokinaces Wed 07-Aug-13 12:03:54

My friend was delighted with her looking like she did. Because she looks exactly like her. Everyone has seen the film and then messaged her saying "Oh my god, Lucy is YOU!!" - and she loves that finally her figure and character and stuff has been made popular in a film.

Not all females are curvy and petite. Some are thin and tall and gangly and clumsy. And sometimes portraying that can make their day.

Splitheadgirl Wed 07-Aug-13 20:29:25

I haven't seen the film, but if the female character is thin then that's great. I have Marfan's and so am almost six feet tall and a size eight. I look skinny, gangly and very VERY thin, even after three children nothing changed....I have had so many comments over the years as if I am a complete weirdo that I think it is cool to have this shape represented in some small way.

NoComet Wed 07-Aug-13 20:36:20

Ok so perhaps I'm over thinking this, but there does seem to be a terrible tendency for thin to equal good, and 'bedable' for want of a better term and fat to equal funny or bad. The male villain makes Gru look thin.

NoComet Wed 07-Aug-13 20:38:25

And I want a minion, but I think it would be like having a two year old DD1 again and my nerves aren't up to that.

VeryDullNameChange Wed 07-Aug-13 20:44:25

She's not just Barbie doll shaped though - she's got a very exaggerated elongated pear shape. I rather like it - she looks like I would if you stretched me on a rack.

KaseyM Wed 07-Aug-13 20:48:59

I don't think you're overthinking it. If it were just one movie then yeah maybe it wouldn't matter - but it's most movies. Nothing wrong with tall thin women - but equally nothing wrong with short fat women but somehow they never seem to make the cut.

Fortunately for male characters no such criteria seems to be applied. So yeah, it sucks...

NumTumDeDum Wed 07-Aug-13 20:51:53

Gru - ugly and bald?! He's lovely!

My weird cartoon crush aside, I see what you're saying but I consider her actions and what they make her character do to be more important. She was very capable, and had an admirable character. I think it's more important to have strong positive female characters.

ashesgirl Wed 07-Aug-13 20:52:12

Definitely not overthinking it, OP. Those who say, well, some women are tall and thin so why shouldn't she be, are totally missing the point.

DioneTheDiabolist Wed 07-Aug-13 22:02:24

I think that feminism attributing the labels "good" or "bad" to female body types is spectacularly missing the point.

FannyFifer Wed 07-Aug-13 22:06:52

Dear god, seriously?

scallopsrgreat Wed 07-Aug-13 23:10:28

I don't think Star thinks that body types are good or bad, Dione. The opposite in fact. She is making the point that media images of women portray that. And she is right. I think feminists, on the whole (and at the risk of speaking for womankind hmm), would like to see an array of body shapes of women within films and media and if at all possible to actually stop focusing on what women look like in the first place.

Pretty much like men have it now.

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