Three cheers for Glamour magazine!

(20 Posts)
Sausageeggbacon Sat 10-Aug-13 11:15:38

Well done for the figures Glamour now can you drop the provocative covers and the messages you send women about sex?

Darkesteyes Fri 09-Aug-13 23:52:06

In this months issue there are a couple of responses to this article on the letters page.
A young woman who wrote in to them got victim blamed by her own mum.

HullMum Wed 12-Jun-13 17:50:24

"tampering with evidence "

I'm not sure if that's more offensive to the woman wanting an abortion or the child eventually born of of it angry

surely DNA testing can be done on the fetus after an abortion anyway or am I misunderstanding?

Darkesteyes Wed 12-Jun-13 17:05:38

Somalia... In 2008 a 13 year old girl was stoned to death for being an "adulteress" Shed been raped by three men.

Pakistan... Reports estimate three quarters of women in Pakistans jails are rape victims.

Mexico...A new bill designates post rape abortion "tampering with the evidence" .
angry angry sad sad

CherylTrole Wed 12-Jun-13 08:41:14

Also included in the article is Rape:A World View. Very eye opening and very sad.
Eg -Morocco- Rapists of underage girls here can avoid conviction by marrying their victim.

NiceTabard Tue 11-Jun-13 23:20:49

Good plan grin

Darkesteyes Tue 11-Jun-13 23:11:51

ooh didnt think of that Nice. Will drop my copy of at the doctors surgery on Thursday.

NiceTabard Tue 11-Jun-13 23:09:23

darkeyes hopefully it will wend it's way to lots of waiting areas all over the land and lots and lots of people will read it smile

Darkesteyes Tue 11-Jun-13 22:57:05

Then you had better address that to Keir Starmer because they are his figures.

So whats with the "we"

caroldecker Tue 11-Jun-13 22:49:16

darkesteyes - I think we have to be careful with these figures - 5,651 prosecutions does not mean 5,651 convictions or guilty men. Just because a woman is not prosecuted for false accusations does not mean they weren't false.
The CPS will not bring a prosecution unless they are fairly sure of a conviction (one reason so many cases do not reach court as there is unfortunately too little evidence of rape rather than sex)
A claim of rape does not necessarily mean rape, although most statistics assume there is.
Around 60% of rape prosecutions succeed, in line with other violent crimes here

Darkesteyes Tue 11-Jun-13 22:21:04

I dont normally read Glamour Nice. At 40 im way too old for it. But i got it for said article and it was worth it.

Darkesteyes Tue 11-Jun-13 22:19:48

Here are the figures from said article. Over a period when there were 5,651 prosecutions for rape there were 35 prosecutions for making false accusations of rape.
In other words leaving aside all the rapes that are never reported an estimated 89% of them,even leaving aside the rapes for which there is insufficient proof the number of convicted rapists absolutely dwarfs the number of women making untrue claims. For every one woman who "cries rape" 161 men have been convicted of rape in a court of law and a further 1,302 men have committed a rape for which they will never be punished.
This is from the Glamour article but the figures are from Keir Starmer the DPP

NiceTabard Tue 11-Jun-13 22:04:28

Well good for them smile

Always pleased when there is a sensible piece about this type of topic in the press esp areas where you might not expect it. Having said that I don't read Glamour, maybe it often has good stuff smile

Oh, I missed the request - that's interesting, will have a look at the comments!

I haven't read the rest of the mag yet, but shock angry at twuntface Morgan.

TheDoctrineOfAllan Tue 11-Jun-13 07:05:56

God. Did she reply, "you are too much of an enormous dickhead."?

Darkesteyes Tue 11-Jun-13 01:23:19
Darkesteyes Tue 11-Jun-13 01:20:39

Yes ive read it. Brilliant article.
Another great ironic touch is in the same issue. If you read the interview with Myleene Klass she talks about when Piers Morgan came up to her at last years Glamour awards and said "You are too thin" then walked off. So also a great example of the mysogyny and "ownership" of womens bodies that permeates society that seems to make it ok for mysogynists like Morgan to make personal comments. The same kind of mysogyny that leads to rape myths.
I also think the examples included in the article on rape were wide ranging and covered everything really well. The figures are staggering.

Well done Zoe Williams Bloody good job.

TheDoctrineOfAllan Tue 11-Jun-13 00:33:19

Will look out for it, ta.

Anyone read their article on rape in the latest issue? I just read it and thought it was brilliant personally - it included a lot of the facts and figures, quotes and campaigns I've seen mentioned around here (including the anti-rape tips for men), and did some great challenging of rape myths. Not surprisingly, a lot of it was quite depressing, but needs to be talked about. Ironic that a magazine called "Glamour" is giving better coverage of a serious topic than many newspapers and supposedly more "heavyweight" magazines seem to!

I don't think the article's on their website, but I would encourage you to get hold of a copy (plus it comes with free fancy makeup this month wink). I have told DH he should read it, though not sure he actually will...

I don't work for them, by the way - honest!

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