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Use of the word cunt as an insult towards a male

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kukeslala Wed 24-Apr-13 19:48:30

Hi

Have posted this on another thread, but very interested to read some more replies, so have decided to give myself my own thread.

I have been reading this board for a few days, and have noticed the word cunt being used to insult males.

I just dont get it?

Why use a word that describes a females vagina to insult a male.

Its not that it is classed as a swear word, its that its used to describe a female body part and then its being used in a derogatory way to insult someone- IYSWIM?

Is it being used to reclaim the word? Or just used without thinking?

Thanks

Sunnywithshowers Thu 25-Apr-13 00:15:58

Hi kukesala I can't claim arsepart - it comes from 'citrus-titted arsepart' (something to do with lemon drizzle cake). grin

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_classics/1718384-To-pelt-my-cakes-at-this-mums-head-in-the-playground-this-afternoon-fume

kukeslala Thu 25-Apr-13 00:35:04

No No NO!!!!

I cant read the link, lemon drizzle cake is my fave.... but want to read the link...dont read the lilk--arrrghhh.

Sunnywithshowers Thu 25-Apr-13 00:37:00

It's okay. No lemon drizzle cake was harmed during the thread. But someone did punch some victoria sponges at the end smile

kukeslala Thu 25-Apr-13 00:54:10

Im on pg 9...
This is so funny, I cant wait to see if lemon drizzle murder pops up...

WrenNatsworthy Thu 25-Apr-13 09:42:21

Did anyone read my link? It says that the word cunt is actually complimentary and can be translated as 'queen who is good with letters and numbers'. I'd rather name my fanny after that than only have it be defined by what goes in it.

JustCallMeHerodina Thu 25-Apr-13 10:04:16

wren, are you sure the link is a real etymology?

I'm fairly sure 'cuneiform' comes from the Latin for 'wedge-shaped'. It's a fairly new word so far as I know (ie., a few centuries). People called early writing 'cuneiform' because of the shape of the letters.

WrenNatsworthy Thu 25-Apr-13 18:35:21

Dunno - Gloria Bertonis is an MEd So I'd hope so.

WrenNatsworthy Thu 25-Apr-13 18:37:11
Mitchy1nge Thu 25-Apr-13 18:38:51

male and female WHAT? Do you mean men and women OP?

JustCallMeHerodina Thu 25-Apr-13 18:42:04

Yes, I get the etymology of 'cunt' but I don't think the etymology of 'cuneiform' is related.

And, honestly, I would be monumentally surprised if anyone could stretch it to mean 'queen who is good with letters and numbers'.

I had always assumed this was meant to a deliberately fairy-tale etymology, a sort of 'what if ...' idea, not a serious one?

WrenNatsworthy Thu 25-Apr-13 18:43:43

<is now tittering at Wedgie>

WrenNatsworthy Thu 25-Apr-13 18:45:19

I am also liking the street in Oxford named 'Gropecuntlane'.

Anyway, I thinks it is an ACE word and is a much more fitting name for my woman parts. Vagina is so DULL.

JustCallMeHerodina Thu 25-Apr-13 18:46:13

grin

There are loads of 'gropecuntlane' streets. I think several of them got politely re-named 'Grape Street', so that always makes me smile too.

NiceTabard Thu 25-Apr-13 20:19:37

gropecuntlane?

Super grin

gropecocklane - are there any of those?

alexpolismum Thu 25-Apr-13 20:27:31

That "Origins of Cunt" link is complete twaddle.

"cuneiform" is from Latin "cuneous", meaning "wedge". It was coined in the 16th century.

Scholars disagree about the origin of "cunt". The ancient Sumerian word for female genitalia is not actually known to us precisely today.

Many etymologists (myself included) dispute the link to the word "queen".

The article cites no references at all for its assertions, no citations, no chains of evidence, nothing.

"whore" does not derive from "houri"

As for "all words beginning with qu derive from "kunta" - words fail me.

alexpolismum Thu 25-Apr-13 20:33:11

Actually, no they don't.

What on earth was the writer thinking, linking unrelated languages from different families???

Ancient Sumerian -probably Semitic
Latin (source of "cuneous") Indo-European
Turkic (actual source of "khan") Altaic

Just because words start in a similar way - quiet, queen, quill, for example, doesn't mean they all came from the same root. It is entirely possible to have a word in Language A that sounds the same as or similar to a word in Language B and for the two to be completely unrelated.

I give you "moroni" - it means carrots in Welsh. If I were to follow the etymology logic from that article, I would have to argue that carrots were seen as stupid by the Welsh or something along those lines.

kukeslala Thu 25-Apr-13 21:11:30

Mitchy1nge

Hi, why are you shouting at me?

JustCallMeHerodina Thu 25-Apr-13 21:49:00

grin

And breath, alex.

I'm glad you said that though.

ku, now I'm curious about words with qu (is 'ku' the same?!), I was wondering - does your name have a meaning?

kukeslala Thu 25-Apr-13 21:55:12

kukes is the village my husband was born in, being from a different small country (Albania) and a very small village, nobody has ever used it yet (except him), where you need to pick a user name.
So one day after 20 times (may be exaggerating, but felt like it) of getting "already taken, please chooses another user name", I adopted it.

Ohh, that's pretty cool. I like that.

I know what you mean about picking names! grin

kukeslala Thu 25-Apr-13 22:09:29

Its pronounced "cooks".

HullMum Fri 26-Apr-13 02:19:34

I'm also American and it's true it's rarely used except to abuse women and in a very hateful way, like calling a black person the n word, so much prefer how little power it really has in the UK.

alexpolismum Fri 26-Apr-13 14:34:45

blush Did I come across as a tiny bit ... erm... peeved?

First we had all the Easter false etymologies that got me annoyed, now it's this.

There are plenty of other things for feminists to use, without resorting to making it up. If you do, then sooner or later someone knowledgeable me will come along and point out where you are wrong and it just makes the whole thing look silly. And detracts from the whole message you are trying to put across.

And annoys us pernickety etymology types who may be a little bit obsessed

WrenNatsworthy Fri 26-Apr-13 15:51:19

Ah. Sorry for linking to that, I'm such a CUNT.

grin

We are all a fine bunch of cunts.

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