This Morning - men don't judge each other

(26 Posts)
kim147 Mon 08-Apr-13 20:31:13

Watching This Morning - discussing MN. Phillip Schofield was on there and another man. Talking about "women judging other women for their decisions" whilst "us men would never do that and would not judge other men".

Interesting - seeing as how when it comes to work for example, most men make the decision to work full time. I'm sure if a husband decided to be a SAHD and give up full time work, some men would have something to say about the decision and be judgemental.

Yes, men compete. But they judge each other's cars/jobs/houses/holidays etc. Maybe they are less interested in how fashion-conscious another man is or how trendy their haircut is.
I suppose it is more to do with power and status rather than appearances?

YoniMatopoeia Mon 22-Apr-13 12:52:18

I am pretty sure that some men judge each other ... They seem to judge quite harshly for not being man enough, for being under the thumb, for being too much like the 'other' that is female...

dopeysheep Mon 22-Apr-13 12:51:22

I think men compete. Judging by results, rather than opinion.

It is still judgement though. Everyone does it it's how we arrive at a common morality.

ALL of life and its social interactions between men can be explained as a pissing context IMO.
Ever listened to 'jokey', 'matey' banter?? Passive-agressiveness at its best.

And yy that women get judged more, by men and women.

Meglet Mon 22-Apr-13 12:47:28

I've known plenty of men bitch about each other. It's human nature, not just women.

samandi Mon 22-Apr-13 12:43:48

It's nonsense. Of course men judge other men, just as they also judge women.

CognitiveOverload Tue 16-Apr-13 21:22:50

From my experience women place more value on their judgements than men do. Perhaps it is the way we have evolved.

Sunnywithshowers Tue 09-Apr-13 14:31:13

Men are definitely as judgmental as women. However, women on the whole are more likely to be judged.

LeBFG Tue 09-Apr-13 13:51:47

Judginess stems from our need to bond socially. Great social pressure is brought to bear to make people in groups conform and non-conformists as viewed with great suspicion (they might be the next murder or thief). This is true of male groups just as it is of female groups. If you don't believe this then it's because men are judging each other on different criteria or expressing their judginess differently. I don't know why the myth perpetuates that women are more judgy.

YouMakeMeWannaLaLa Tue 09-Apr-13 13:35:00

The use of the word 'gay' as a term of abuse is most often used by men/boys against other men/boys if they are judged to not be macho enough/have the right clothes/act the right wat etc. It is very prevalent.

Why are people so invested in inventing/exaggerating differences between the sexes? Just decide on a position and fabricate anecdotes evidence to fit. What a narrow minded way to live. Must bring them comfort or summat confused

Because we are socialised to see men and women as different, and because judging one another and criticising one another's traits is a stereotypically female thing to do, men may disassociate themselves from it instinctively.

Same argument that's trotted out to blame women for the media's role in perpetuating body image issues. "Oh, it's all you silly women's fault for judging each other" they say.

Mumcentreplus Tue 09-Apr-13 12:44:43

Men definitely judge each other...subject matter might be different but they still form opinions about other men that they see as different from themselves or their circle of friends...can't understand why this fallacy about men not judging each other still exists hmm

...aka "banter"

WoTmania Tue 09-Apr-13 11:33:02

Men gossip, 'bitch' and judge....but those are terms applied to women's conversations. With men they will tell you they are 'just mucking around' or having a laugh/joke with each other.

I don't think women as a group are more judgemental. We're socially conditioned to perceive women as more judgemental; doesn't mean it is at all true.

NiceTabard Mon 08-Apr-13 23:54:07

Men and boys judge each other all the time.

I mean seriously? People think this doesn't happen? Football anyone? Music? Hairstyles? Trousers? Jobs? Pool skills? Computer skills? Games skills? Cars? Bicycles? Skateboards? Knowledge about whatever the group is interested in???? Just everything????

I mean come on males don't judge each other? <falls off chair again>

AnyFucker Mon 08-Apr-13 23:50:56

Philip Schofield, for example, is a twat

< prepares for another Jeremy Vine phone-in >

Hahahaha.

MN don't judge each other!

People judge each other. Far too often, generally.

ecclesvet Mon 08-Apr-13 23:48:12

In my experience, women as a group definitely seem more judgemental.

Or perhaps men and women are equally judgemental, but men don't vocalise it for whatever reason (fear of being labelled a 'gossip' - i.e. a womanly trait, social stigma against revealing feelings/thoughts, etc).

NiceTabard Mon 08-Apr-13 23:12:43

Men don't judge other men?

Are they taking the piss????

hahahahahahahahahahhahaa<falls over>

Oblomov Mon 08-Apr-13 21:42:46

My dh is very non judgemental. All his mates seem the same. If one gave up work to be a sahd, they wouldn't be jealous, bitter and critical. They would be envious but not in a nasty way.
I think men are very different to women.
I think men are MUCH better than women at this.

kim147 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:40:46

Schofield made it quite clear that mothers were free to make their own choices.

Then he did an article judging a mum who drugged her children on a flight [ironic emoticon]

Darkesteyes Mon 08-Apr-13 21:39:56

Dear dear me dont the producers of this show have short memories.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/1716811-This-Morning

Darkesteyes Mon 08-Apr-13 21:37:45

They judge women though. The way Schofield interviewed the women who were abused by Savile springs to mind.

DisorganisednotDysfunctional Mon 08-Apr-13 20:41:29

I don't think my DH got any flack for being a SAHD. He got a lot of envy, though. I think it was the idea of him all alone with all the women at the school gate. Poor misguided blokes. smile

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