uni club event/party - office hoes and CEOs

(41 Posts)
beansmum Tue 05-Mar-13 20:29:30

Am I right to be bothered by this? (Yes, I am - you should see the posters). But is it worth complaining, and who would I complain to? And how would I word my complaint - I've never complained about anything in my life, but this has really annoyed me for some reason.

PromQueenWithin Fri 08-Mar-13 13:09:12

OK, thanks for clarifying.

WilsonFrickett Fri 08-Mar-13 13:17:08

I don't know about unis in NZ but if there isn't a women's officer or a gender/equality officer, could that be something you could put in motion? It would be of long-term benefit if your uni is prone to pulling stunts like this.

BobbiFleckmann Fri 08-Mar-13 13:19:59

you see my immediate response to this was a party with a load of girls dressed like Alexis Carrington. Why have all of you assumed that it's the men being the CEOs?

namechangeguy Fri 08-Mar-13 13:20:18

It might seem a bit odd, to attend something you disagree with, but it also might give a better idea of what these events are actually about, and why they are so popular. There are theories abound on here, but I wonder what the reality is, i.e. what the perceptions and reasoning of the women actually are?

namechangeguy Fri 08-Mar-13 13:21:57

I did suggest something similar Bobbi, although substitute Karren Brady or Mary Portas for Alexis - you are showing your age grin

BobbiFleckmann Fri 08-Mar-13 13:23:59

au contraire, I'm on a hipster 80s revival ironic tip! (yes i'm old...).

PromQueenWithin Fri 08-Mar-13 13:24:26

"There are theories abound on here, but I wonder what the reality is, i.e. what the perceptions and reasoning of the women actually are?"

NCG I can only give you my own perception and experience. As a young student, I would have joined in with gusto, gone tarty and enjoyed the attention! As a 35 year old feminist with more life experience and confidence, I see the unfortunate undercurrents and would challenge this robustly were it to appear at my place of work (which actually happens to be a university, and I've never seen such a thing).

WilsonFrickett Fri 08-Mar-13 14:09:15

And as a young student I would probably have been picketing outside grin Ah, the days of a full student grant and its associated time to actually engage in things outwith one's lecture programmes and work...

Thing is, the people who attended the event aren't posting on here. The person who was opposed to it is so if it's OK with you ncg I'll direct my energy to responding to her post.

namechangeguy Fri 08-Mar-13 14:11:22

As did I, Wilson. Which is why I suggested she engaged with them.

FastidiaBlueberry Fri 08-Mar-13 16:54:25

"And the point about 'other women go along with it, so feminists are wrong' is a moot point. The women going along with it are human being with reasons of their own. The men are irrelevant. If anyone has a problem with this stuff, the women are the ones you should be concentrating on. "

Er no.

The men are the ones for whose benefit this whole thing is being done.

It's a compliment to them. Women decorating themselves for their assessment and enjoyment.

And the concept of office hoes being promoted to ensure that men think of women as being othered. And that women junior to them in their offices in the future, can be fitted into that stereotype.

Mugofteaforme Mon 11-Mar-13 16:03:59

"The men are the ones for whose benefit this whole thing is being done"

Oh come on! are you really saying that women don't get some pleasure out of such an evening?

Some will laugh at each other in their attempts to dress as hoes.
Some will be empowered, both from the attention of their peers and others.
Some will laugh at the ill fitting cloths the CEOs wear or their choice of tie.

Women will dress as high powered CEOs and Men as Hoes..They'll laugh at themselves, each other and just about everything inbetween smile

Many of the women will achieve things that we can only dream of- One night with a short skirt and extra long eyelashes won't change that.

and for whats it's worth many of these "ents" are organised by both the men and the women.

In short it's silly, it's fun and can't be extended to the world outside the student bar.

slug Mon 11-Mar-13 16:25:02

And yet the term "Hoes" is being used.

What are Hoes exactly? Whores perhaps? i.e. women who are there solely for the sexual gratification of men. Ironic or otherwise it's still deeply offensive to half the population.

PromQueenWithin Mon 11-Mar-13 16:28:48

Unless of course people are being expected to dress either as high flying executives or gardening implements?

beansmum Mon 11-Mar-13 20:00:42

I don't think the issue is how people dressed at the event (all men in suits, women in a range of things from actual workwear to 'sexy secretary' short skirts, stockings and bras out, judging by the photos on facebook), or whether they enjoyed themselves. Most of them probably had a great time. It is also completely irrelevant that the president of the club that organised the event is a women.

The name of the event is still offensive and inappropriate. Haven't had a reply to my complaint yet...

beansmum Mon 11-Mar-13 20:01:27

a woman - obviously

FastidiaBlueberry Mon 11-Mar-13 20:09:32

"Oh come on! are you really saying that women don't get some pleasure out of such an evening?"

No, of course women will get pleasure from the evening. We must take our pleasure where we can.

I think we need to ask ourselves what sort of empowerment it is, to have the attention of your peers.

Because it sounds remarkably needy to me - the very opposite of power.

I note that men aren't expected to be satisfied with empowerment - they get the real thing, power.

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