Does a prudish attitude towards sex reduce sex-crimes?

[Charlizee]

And does censorship help reduce sex crimes?

Discuss.

[chibi]

does posting an OP in such a high handed manner like this annoy?

discuss.

[AMumInScotland]

Given the amount of sex crime in Victorian times, I doubt it!

[Portofino]

Sex crimes, ie rape, tend not to about sex, but rather than power and control. How would be being prudish help? Do you mean women should go round in ankle length clothing or something?

[Portofino]

And censorship of what?

[Charlizee]

By censorship I mean banning things like topless beaches/breastfeeding/public nudity etc and requiring a black bar be used to hide female nipples if a topless woman is printed or shown on TV.

[Mitchy1nge]

OP are you obsessed with black bars over nipples or has someone else been repeating that phrase a lot lately?

[seeker]

No. But it would reduce the reporting of them, and increase the suffering of the "victims"

[FreyaSnow]

I'm mystified by this as I don't think rape of breasts is a common crime. If you google '4 types of rapists', you can get profiles and motivations of each type. That might help you understand what causes rape.

[Charlizee]

@mitchy I did post that in another thread but it wasn't really relevant to that thread so I made a new one.

[Charlizee]

Question-

If you were at a beach and a woman took her top off exposing her bare breasts and you had a young child with you what would you do? Make a fuss and cover your child's eyes or don't say anything at all?

Just curious.

[AMumInScotland]

No, I think that banning innocent nudity is more about a negative attitude to women than about "protecting" them.

And pictures of topless women are a symptom of an attitude to women that reduces them to commodities. Adding a black bar to their nipples would not improve this. Removing them completely from "ordinary" newspapers and magazines might help. And, again, I don't have any fundamental problem with nudity on TV etc where it is relevant and where men are similarly shown - have just been watching the box set of Rome, and we've seen a clearer view of James Purefoy than of any of the women.

[NicholasTeakozy]

That's exactly right. Pushing the blame for rape and other sexual offences onto women is spot on. Better that than blaming the actual rapists/sexual predators. Well fucking done.

And Porto is right. Rape is about power, fear and control.

[AMumInScotland]

I'd have had no problem with DS seeing a woman's breasts. I think it is healthy to see a range of normal bodies in normal situations, and not expect the world to be perfect and air-brushed.

[TheDoctrineOfSnatch]

Can you define a prudish attitude? Thanks.

If I could rephrase your question as, "Would a reduction in the perception and portrayal of women's bodies as a commodity in the media lead to a reduction in sex crime?" then I might be more inclined to answer "yes, it probably would, particularly in street harassment etc."

[Bluestocking]

Why don't you tell us what you think, OP?

[NicholasTeakozy]

If you were at a beach and a woman took her top off exposing her bare breasts and you had a young child with you what would you do? Make a fuss and cover your child's eyes or don't say anything at all?

I said nothing. By the time my and XWs kids went to a beach they already knew what breasts looked like as they'd been fed by them.

Are you usually this dense?

[seeker]

Question. Why would a topless woman be shown in the press or on TV anyway?

[Portofino]

I think that people should be able to walk round stark naked if that is what WANT without being in fear of being raped. Rape is not about what you are wearing or doing - it is having the misfortune to meet a rapist. Anything else is victim blaming.

[BelaLugosisShed]

Don't you know OP? There is no rape or sexual assault in Saudi Arabia, oh wait.....

[Portofino]

Obviously I realise that people naked in public might attract the attention of non-rapists and there are laws and stuff. But that has nothing to do with rape.

[BelaLugosisShed]

I've been topless on holiday without a second thought, DH was surrounded by topless women at one point, he managed not to stick his penis into any of them.

[Portofino]

Bela - that was SO good of him!

[SinisterSal]

I would hope there can be a view of sex and sexuality tht is neith prudish nor pornified. Sex crimes wouldn't make sense if sex was only about a meeting of minds as well as bodies.fun desire. By meeting of minds i don't mean twoo love neccessarily, but two people connecting on whatever level, not just two sets of genitals connecting.