Is the term 'Angry Fucking' potentially offensive to some women?

[Ohsiena]

Ok I said I wouldn't start this, but I've been challenged to do so enough times, so I'm giving in.

It's about this thread - To think you should stay out of other people's bedrooms (378 Posts) 1This thread.

A very few of us understood why the term angry fucking was offensive to MrsC originally.

Most thought she had no sense of humour and just didn't get the joke.

Discussion was widened as a poster thught it was worse as used by a man. This has been attacked as sexist.

I stated on there that I'd like to see what some of the more feminist minded posters would make of this discussion.

I didn't want to start this, I've felt like a bit of a lone voice on there at times and need to do some RL stuff, but I've been called again and again to do so, so I have.


You'll see the phrase pearl clutching a lot....

[Ohsiena]

Thread referred to is here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1599843-To-think-you-should-stay-out-of-other-peoples-bedrooms?msgid=35102207#35102207

[InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream]

I do not find it offensive but if I did it wouldnt matter whether the poster was male or female.

I have stated that throughout the thread. I have also mentioned pearl clutching as that's what I believe the thread started to descend into.

[SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood]

I don't think its apleasant term and ther are definitely hints of violence. Whether said by man ir woman.

[ISeeDeadFairies]

I think this should have been in aibu. I think your sexist and unreasonable

[PickledFanjoCat]

This is out of context and In my opinion a goading thread.

[SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood]

Fuck alone is a fairly aggressive term. Add the word angry and that is enhanced

[MrsCantSayAnything]

I think the thread has been started here as a way of inviting people who have more knowledge of what I was getting at than A: I do and B: most of the people on the original thread.

It's not goading. It's a place to talk about the discussion that went on with people who are possibly more able to understand the issues and more able than I was able to articulate what it was that made me uncomfortable.

[MrsCantSayAnything]

Just to add...it was me who originally pulled the person up for using the term. And me who got a lot of flack from others on the thread...but a couple of posters agreed with me and I was grateful.

[ISeeDeadFairies]

For those of you that don't want to trawl through the original thread and in the interests of keeping this one fair (as the title is very biased), this originally started because a poster made reference to the incredible hulk and green strap ons. It was pointe out that the term was used to reflect that the hulk can only act angrily when in hulk form. In no way was the post inflammatory or suggestive that angry fucking was acceptable etc. it was a joke that has been twisted many times.

This was then made to be about the fact that he poster was male and shouldn't be on mn in the first place.

The poster has apologised several times however people have continued to goad and bitch and even made reference to him being like jimmy saville although they did try to back track out of this.

It wa suggested a new thread was started in order to stop hijacking the op's thread. Not to create a completely biased man bashing forum.

[InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream]

people who are possibly more able to understand the issues

What makes someone more able to understand?

[Bluegrass]

Devoid of any context it doesn't provoke a response in me at all. Could mean all sorts of things. As one poster said, some people don't like the phrase fuck as they think it sounds too aggressive. They presumably prefer "making babies" or something equally vomit inducing.

[ISeeDeadFairies]

rips I think an incredible hulk strap on would be green and probably reserved for angry fucking.


This is the original comment which sparked this debate.

[SHRIIIEEEKPoolingBearBlood]

fuck sounds aggressive to me. I don't prefer twee terms and think that's a bit patronising tbh

[TinyDancingHoofer]

It's all about context. I don't find it offensive in the previous thread.

[ISeeDeadFairies]

Note this was in response to a comment made by a female poster

[PickledFanjoCat]

Hi mrs c,

I thought a new thread would move it on from the incredible hulk, and stop it being personal to particular posters.

The way this has been worded is a sheer goad.

[Vege]

I've lived in the UK nearly 43 years and have never heard of such a phrase. Has it been washed in with the huge immigration population growth in the past few years?

[YouSeveredHead]

How the hell does a thread go from I laws going in someone's room to this ?

[TinyDancingHoofer]

Also there is a big difference between angry and violent. I like angry fucking. I don't like violent fucking.

[MrsCantSayAnything]

Fairies you have not clearly put it in context at all. One poster (not me) commented on the man's sex. I did not...and it was me who raised the issue.

All I said was that the term angry fucking was not nice and made me uncomfortable as it came out of nowhere on an innocuous thread. Ok someone DID mention the Hulks strap on...and the poster in question then said it ould be used for angry fucking.

I don't like that term...I don't think it is funny and has rape connotations so I flagged it. FWIW I never saw the poster apologise once. He continued to make sniggery jokes in fact.

[MrsCantSayAnything]

DeadFairies no...it was a male who said "angry fucking". And a female who said about the strap on in the first place.

Fanjo I don't think the title is wrong. It's just a question.

[Chubfuddler]

The op of this thread completely divorces the term from the context in which it was used on that thread. It was a comment about the incredible hulk's penis. It was a silly, mildly amusing comment in the context in which it was written.

[MrsCantSayAnything]

Tiny no there is not. Anger is a precuser to violence. Sex and anger have no place together.

[PickledFanjoCat]

He did apologise mrs c, you must missed it. In the interest of fairness he made other jokes then - but you had said you got what it meant already and you didn't seem overall offended just to say it wasn't to your tastes.

To be honest it was another female poster that argued with you more about it.

[InSPsFanjoNoOneHearsYouScream]

It does not have rape connotations!

It's about a strap on that would be reserved for "angry fucking" seen as its a hulk one!

I don't see the issue tbh. I don't see where rape or sexual violence comes into it, I really don't.