poster campaign aimed at men cuts rape rate by 10%

[chibi]

in canada

i wish we did this here rather than the terrified woman as prey animal graphic with doomy text about how the onus is on you to prevent your own rape

ps canada i love you

[ecclesvet]

The UK has had a few campaigns with a similar approach actually.

I like that it takes a 'you-need-consent' approach, rather than a 'prevention' approach.
I like that it uses more relatable scenarios to make the point - i.e. 'drunk on a sofa' rather than 'walking down dark alley'.
I like that it doesn't fall into the trap of some 'tell-men-not-to' campaigns of warning the rapist of the possible consequences/punishments, as if subjecting someone to a rape wasn't reason enough not to do it.

I don't like that it completely disregards and minimises male and female victims of female rapists (the implication that your rapist must be 'that guy').
I don't like that it merely replaces the 'don't tell me how not to be a victim' complaints with 'don't tell me how not to be a criminal' complaints.

[Abirdinthehand]

I like that it challenges the miscommunication theory of sexual consent. It's good.

[ValarMorghulis]

I think it is a very good approach.

It is probably the very first poster i gave seen that isn't "don't get raped"

All teh other campaigns i have ever seen have been aimed at women, "advising" us how not to be raped. Like we have a choice in the matter.

[Dworkin]

Well I always thought that sex without consent = rape (not sexual assault) because as we all know sex = penetration.

I'm ambivalent about the knock out drunk, lone woman on the couch, and it makes me angry to think that men have to be educated about this when it's OBVIOUSLY common sense

[Abirdinthehand]

To be honest, since rape and sexual assault are both awful, and illegal, and often linked, it does not matter to me that they have used the term assault. In a way I think it might be good because perhaps men who would draw the line at rape might be tempted to assault someone because they see it as 'not rape' iykwim.

[Abirdinthehand]

And yes, awful that this has to happen - but good it has been done. Being angry that something is necessary does not make it less necessary.

[SardineQueen]

I think that ad is a trillion times better than anything I have seen over here.

People always say that there's no point aiming ads at men because they won't work - if they're a rapist then they're a rapist and an ad won't change that. But those figures (rather surprisingly and really brilliantly) show a different picture.

[BasilRathbone]

Yes, it shows what a load of crap it is, that rapists are some kind of different species from other men.

It's not perfect but it's a hell of a lot better than those fucking awful unlicensed cab ads that you get here.

[AyeRobot]

I am massively in favour of "Don't Rape" campaigns, as opposed to "Don't Get Raped" ones. Keeping the focus on the rapists is the way to lower the incidence of rape. I suspect largely through more rapists being in jail, or in fear of being in jail, rather than because they saw a poster and went "Oh, yeah. That's not a nice thing to do".

These posters contribute to smashing down rape myths, which is much needed for increasing the effectiveness of the way the police investigate, the way the CPS make their decisions and the juries that make decisions in cases.

That article says "The reversal in the trend related to sexual assaults reflected the impact of the new education program, better training for police officers and more effective investigation and enforcement". Kudos.

[DilysPrice]

There's been posters up on the Tube round our way for the past 2 years with variations on the theme "Real Men Know The Difference"
Getting It On/Get Off Me
Fun/Harrassment
I rather like them, though I have no idea what effect if any they have on their target audience. At the bottom it always talks about the seriousness of the criminal offence, which is slightly depressing, because it would obviously be nice if not being an evil bastard were motivation enough, but realistically it probably helps.

[SardineQueen]

They sound good as well dilys.

I don't get out much these days due to small people, but when I worked in town the ad of the day was the unlicenced cab ones. At one station I waited at every day it was a huge one on the wall opposite the platform - waiting for the tube with a woman's screaming face in front of you every day doesn't do much to make you feel safe and confident IYKWIM.

[DilysPrice]

The new unlicensed cab posters just have a cab with an open door and the words "If your cab's not booked it's just a stranger's car". No pictures of a victim of either sex.
I don't have a problem with that - people do get into random blokes' cars when drunk, and it's rarely a good idea.

[Jux]

I think it's good. OK, it doesn't address female rapists, but I suspect that the majority of rapists are male and you have to start somewhere, don't you?

[SardineQueen]

That sounds much better dilys.

i always felt that the old ones were just money spinning idea for TFL

Plus when those posters were up you were prob most at risk in a black cab anyway

[LeBOF]

Jux?

[HandDivedScallopsrgreat]

Well in the UK rape requires a penis so if this poster were to be directed at rapists here then it would be all men, Jux.

[HandDivedScallopsrgreat]

Sorry just reread that and what I meant is that in the UK it is only men that can be rapists. So "Don't Rape" campaigns would be targetted just at men.

[ecclesvet]

The poster mentions sexual assaults so needn't be directed solely at men, Scallops.

[ecclesvet]

Ah, x-posts.

[HandDivedScallopsrgreat]

Yes I am aware of that eccles. That's why I said a campaign directed at rapists as Jux said.

[HandDivedScallopsrgreat]

Sorry x-post . Slow typer!

[AnyFucker]

Good God, it takes a large stretch to conjure up a tiny little complaint about these ads such as "it doesn't address the female rapists"

Jux...what happened there, mate ?

[AyeRobot]

I totally see the need for a series of "Women: Dont be that woman who helps or forces a man to penetrate a non-consenting person" posters.

[AnyFucker]

"Women....don't grow a penis"

That could work

[SardineQueen]

I imagine Jux was picking up on an earlier post that everyone else was carefully ignoring