Russia abortions restricted by new laws

[Rollon2012]

news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16107864

I saw this and thought hmmm, especially at a time when the whole buisness of an overcrowded world has been in the news recently.

the video is very triggering so be warned I feel quite shaken still.

[theothersparticus]

I couldn't watch the video but that is a horrifying article.

You wonder how any rational country could try to force naive young women (and not so naive or young women) to continue a pregnancy they don't want and then cast both onto the streets?

Sadly, this is the same sort of model that Dorries et al want to enforce on this country. I hope that it never comes to that here or there.

[Rollon2012]

Oh I felt sick,

the video the woman was truly callous

she was asked if she was the first woman to have a 16 wk ab.

woman said 'no, you are not the first or will be the last, pull yourself together!'


and when she asked what are the possible risks are she said 'look honey, are you here to keep your baby or have an abortion?'

I was :O no emotional support at all.

[eminencegrise]

Most places are not as big on 'emotional support' as the UK, tbh.

[PamBeesly]

I can't believe the doctor only got two years for that womans death, is there no value on a womans life at all.

[eminencegrise]

Ever lived in Russia? There's little value to much of lives there, sadly.

[Rollon2012]

Nah have you eminencegrise???

It does appear on documentaries About eastern europe that its a much more 'deal with it' place.

[eminencegrise]

Yes. I lived there for two years in total. It is much get on with it. Many places are, though. It made dating Russian men interesting .

[eminencegrise]

My mother has a friend from Romania who is now 70, so of course before she defected she lived being the Iron Curtain. Birth control was difficult to get so abortion was often used to contraceptive, if you will. She had several abortions, as a married woman, with no anaesthetic, much less 'emotional support'.

[Rollon2012]

Thats horrific, as soon as I saw the instruments i had to turn it off, it odd I have such a viseral reaction as I've never had one.

[Rollon2012]

I was also shocked to read about no sex education.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to click the link as the comments have put me off.

But thanks for starting the thread, even if it is unwelcome news.

[sakura]

I've lived in Russia. It is the most violent country I've every been in. Porn is rife. Rape is rife. In the time I was there I was flashed at countless times.

They conscript men into the army for 2 years, send them to Chechnya, for them to return mentally scarred and brutal, having been taught to rape Chechen women... and you don't unlearn something like that.

Fuck being scared of promulgating stereotypes. Women there are second class citizens.

And yet it's such a beautiful country, rich in culture, history and soul. It will always have a special place in my heart.

But given the choice, men will always choose power over women's happiness and safety.

It needs to sort itself out with regard to women.

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

I suspect that is what happens when you have a religion that sanctions so much misogyny. Sorry, I'm normally the last person to be religion-bashing and I know lots of delightful Orthodox Christians who manage to also campaign for better access to abortion, or equal rights for homosexual couples, or whatever. But my image of the ROC as a whole is that it is just stunningly misogynistic, to the point where it is utterly ingrained that women are different from and ancillary to the greatness of men.

I think probably the same culture may have something to do with the porn too - which is utterly hypocritical, but when you repress sex so much it is not healthy.

But then I look at amazing women like my MIL and I have some hope, while feeling so angry on her behalf too. So many men died in Russia during WWII and after, it is often women who pulled their families through.

[PamBeesly]

Thats awful about the soliders in Chechyna. What a brutal rotten regime.

[sakura]

RUssia is a landlocked country and one of the only ports is in Chechnya ergo the Russian federation will not allow it to be an independent country, despite the cultural, religious, ethnic and linguistic differences

[bemybebe]

"RUssia is a landlocked country and one of the only ports is in Chechnya"

FFS sakura, have you seen Russia on the map
Unbelievable.
Russian oppression of Chechnya has nothing to do with it having a port.

[bemybebe]

actually, what I am talking about, it does not even have a port
ffs

[thisisyesterday]

since when is russia landlocked?