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American presenter apologises to Chris Brown (who beat up Rhianna).....

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Matronalia · 20/08/2011 12:01



Grin

Fox News presenter apologises to Chris Brown and his fan base for a contentious tweet, but phrases his apology as an attack on Chris's behaviour towards women.
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vigglewiggle · 20/08/2011 12:06

Excellent!

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sakura · 20/08/2011 12:07

At first I thought it was brilliant, but as I continued to listen to them, I felt as though woman-beating was one big joke. Or as though he was casting himself in the Knight in Shining Armour role.

So, in two minds about that

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belgo · 20/08/2011 12:09

Very good.

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vigglewiggle · 20/08/2011 12:11

No, I think the strong use of language made it clear that the joke was on all of the people who have accepted CB back into the fold. I think it was very clear that he was condemning CB and his behaviour unequivocally. The fact that he was able to do it in a 'humorous' but not insincere way guarantees the biggest audience - which can only be a good thing!

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AliceWyrld · 20/08/2011 12:13

Yeh I had a little two mindness going on. I think it was the people in the studio giggling that did it for me. They were on standard giggle they'd use for anything. Men speaking out to other men about their abuse great though.

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belgo · 20/08/2011 12:44

I do wonder what Rihanna would make of it.

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sunshineandbooks · 20/08/2011 14:04

As a victim of DV, I liked it. The background giggling was irritating and out of place, but I didn't feel it detracted from what he was saying. I don't care if his motivation was more-than-a-little self-serving, his message was very clear. Good for him, I say! Smile

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posterofawolef · 20/08/2011 14:11

I think he made it pretty clear that he was laughing at Chris Brown and roundly condemning DV. Excellent stuff.

I think the giggling was about their discomfort at this media taboo subject being broached with humour. Which is annoying.

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Catslikehats · 20/08/2011 14:13

I thought it was very funny, I think Levy makes it quite clear that DV is deplorable and he is ridiculing both CB and those arms of he media that have chosen to ignore what he did.

BTW there is also a thread on this in AIBU Smile

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franke · 20/08/2011 15:01

I've watched this a couple of times to see if I get a different undercurrent, but no, imo Levy is genuinely condemning DV. In one of his final statements he becomes less sarcastic and more direct, describing the rehab of CB by the media as if nothing ever happened as "disgusting".

The laughing in the background is annoying and I think the piece would have had even more impact if they'd kept quiet.

Surprised it came from Fox News...

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skrumle · 20/08/2011 17:06

i actually did laugh at loud at his final "what is he really guilty of comment". i think it was a good piece overall.

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DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 20/08/2011 18:55

Studio laughing aside, I loved it. This isn't Levy making light of DV, it's Levy doing his damn best to point out that DV is unacceptable. He's also pointing out the media are guilty of excusing DV for the sake of a singer. I agree with him 100%

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Avinalarf · 20/08/2011 18:58

Very good.

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ThePosieParker · 20/08/2011 20:49

I feel awful but love his new song, with Bieber (I bleach my ears but I can hear it)....I won't buy it.

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ThePosieParker · 20/08/2011 20:54

I heard it not knowing it was him......but that apology was very very funny.

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ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 20/08/2011 20:57

I wanted to applaud Levy. A very smart, direct and definite condemnation of Brown and his actions.

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Meglet · 20/08/2011 21:00

I liked it. He was tearing into CB.

And WTF is Bieber doing with him Confused. Way to go for a great example to young girls there Sad.

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ThePosieParker · 20/08/2011 21:03

CB must have cracking management and Bieber piss poor.

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Indaba · 21/08/2011 20:34

The only time I have approved of anything on Fox News!

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sakura · 22/08/2011 02:53

yes, better to bring the subject up-as Levy did- than brush it under the carpet. Just wish it had been without all the background giggling and sort of making light of it all. Didn't like the "knight in shining armour connotations" either.

What what the hell. Beggars can't be choosers, and women have got to grab any crumbs that are thrown at them. I'd say Levy threw us a few crumbs this time, which is more than other men are willing to do, so yes: well done Levy!

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MrsPollifaxInnocentTourist · 22/08/2011 14:10

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Meglet · 22/08/2011 18:13

I didn't think the background giggling was making fun of it. To me it seemed to be more of a "ohymyfuckingGodIhopehetoldthelawyerhe'sdoingthis". You can just imagine CB finding grounds to sue them for it if he hadn't.

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HeifferunderConstruction · 22/08/2011 20:06

Thats great , I think the fact a man is saying it too you don't often see that you cn see like vieled rage on his face

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MrsPollifaxInnocentTourist · 22/08/2011 22:23

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PiousPrat · 24/08/2011 14:39

Meglet I don't think Bieber is known for his equality loving ways either tbh. I'm pretty sure I saw an article a while back where he, as a mature, worldy wise 14 year old, condemned abortion as a sin in all circumstances

My 10 year old DS hates Bieber with a passion. There was an interview with him on the tv a couple of weeks ago so I turned up the volume to annoy DS2 and it was Bieber saying he loved each and every one of his 'girlies' (female fans I assume) DS2 told me that is why he hates him, because he talks as if all his fans are stupid little girls who should be grateful for any scrap of attentyion he throws at them, while he gets rich from there money.

I was most proud, until he added "mind you, there are all stupid. Bieber's music is shit" Grin

WRT the apology, I think that was about the only way that Levy could get his point across. Fox was never going to let him actually say what he thought in serious terms because they might get sued, so he used humour to sneak it through. Of course I would rather he was able to just stand up and say 'Brown was wrong, I condemn his actions and those of the media who condone them by pretending they never happened. I will not apologise for calling a criminal a criminal' but if that isn't possible and it takes masking it in humour to get the point across, well I'll take that for now.

It all helps in the steps towards making speaking out against DV acceptable and society as a whole condemning those who carry it out and supporting the victims.

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