whilst talking to my SIL about why the bible is anti-women she came out with this gem

[thefinerthingsinlife]

This is is reference to a husband protecting his wife

"His job is to support, protect and fund his household something is which by nature makes logical sense as hes physically stronger and better equipt to deal with that role whereas the woman bears the children and naturally nurtures and cares for the children in the safety of the home, thats not sexism that nature! Also a woman is more emotionally in tune to deal with a family whereas man is different is that department."


I have pointed her in the direction of Cordelia Fine's book.

[nethunsreject]

Sadly, lots of people belive this shite.

[Quodlibet]

Oh god.

Have you managed to point her in the direction of any other 'knowledge' which has been updated in the past 2000 years?

[thefinerthingsinlife]

The problem is she doesn't believe in science Quodilbet so it is fighting a losing battle with her

[ullainga]

how many jobs exactly require physical strenght these days? I spendspends most of hmy time tapping on the keyboard and the heaviest thing I have lifted today is my phone. How is a man "by nature" better than me to do this due to him being physically stronger?

There is significantly more heavy lifting involved when doing housework and taking care of kids. So as men are stronger, they should stay at home. It's nature and makes total logical sense.

[Quodlibet]

I think if she doesn't believe in science, she's not going to be a great follower of logic either so agree you're pretty much on a non-starter, unfortunately. The only strategy can be damage limitation and trying not to let her spout guff in the presence of anyone impressionable...

[blackcurrants]

ullainga that is very true, you know. I regularly remind DH that I need a big strong man to push the hoover around or heft the big lummock DS to and from the park. My ladybits make me weak, I need to lie on the sofa scoffing cake contemplating my inadequacies.


She sounds like a nightmare, thefinerthingsinlife. My SIL tried the "husband should be head of the household, says so in the bible" line of me, and answered "that makes sense if you believe in god and believe god wrote the bible. But if you think there's no sky fairy and the bible was written by a bunch of random men then heavily edited over hundreds of years, it makes just as much sense taking your life lessons from the phone book."

She's stopped trying it, since.

[blackcurrants]

argh, that should read "she tried the line on me and I answered..."
Basically my point is, I respect her right to her beliefs, she needs to respect my right to mine. Doesn't have to agree with me (though she should!) but if I'm not trying to convert her to atheism, she shouldn't be bothering with converting me to Christianity!

I'm probably not making sense - it's been a long old day - time for a

[Himalaya]

Yup. Sounds like the argument is not so much about nature vs nurture but about whether the bible is a book written by some people a few thousand years ago, or whether it has deep universal significance.