Has there been a thread on the women in Tommy Sheridan case?

[wildstrawberryplace]

Article here

I found it particularly interesting where the women were saying that their primary motivation was to try to stop sexism getting entrenched so early on in Scotland's new political history.

[HerBeX]

Well they'll have a job.

Lefty parties are just as sexist as right wing ones.

Interesting article and moronic comments underneath.

[aliceliddell]

HerBeX - your appealing bitterness should not sway your politics. Socialism isn't synonymous with socialists. The former (theory and organisations thereof) should be by definition anti-sexist. Don't hold your breath for the latter. The leftyboys we have known and loved so well will contaminate the organisations with sexism because they don't have the political analysis or the personal will to do otherwise. On a related issue; it is interesting that Sheridan, Assange, Sky footie men etc all start off accused of blatant sexism which is immediately recast as "fearless fight against The State/Murdoch empire/repression or anything else so long as it's nothing to do with their sexism". This is becoming monotonous. They are sexist gits. Job done.

[ElephantsAndMiasmas]

I don't understand that alice. What are you saying about socialism?

[HerBeX]

I think she's saying that socialism itself is non-sexist, but socialist men are sexist.

Is that right AL?

[aliceliddell]

yes HerBex. The obsessive hero worship of Eg Assange/Sheridan/etc is disturbing in the ease with which it takes men who sign up to a tireless fight against women's oppression and turns them into rabid right-wing misogynists. Price you pay for infiltrating their territory and making it our territory too. Now play nicely boys, and share.....

[ssd]

alice could you say that in english?

[ssd]

actually, don't bother

[ElephantsAndMiasmas]

Politics is a man's game, to quote Virginia W it was "made by men out of their own needs for their own uses". It only takes a glimpse of the inside of "the mother [haha] of parliaments" and you can see the continuum which stretches from prep schools to public schools to Oxbridge to Inns of Court to Parliament. All designed to educate wealthy men and catapult them into positions of authority.

It's going to take more than a 20%ish stake in Westminster and 84 years of equal suffrage to change the centuries of ingrained ceremony, debating style and power structure.

So good on those women. Men really need to do everyone a favour and speak out against sexism and harrassment where they see it as well.

[HerBeX]

See I don't think these men do sign up to a tireless fight against women's oppression. I think women are a total and complete afterthought to them.

They really are only thinking of half the human race when they say they want to end oppression. They don't notice the oppression faced by women, they think we're exaggerating, because "working class men are oppressed too".