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Crèche staff lost my DD!(54 Posts)
My DS3 and DD1 attended a crèche run by our local children's centre yesterday, while I was on a course.
At the end of the course I went into the crèche room to pick them up. DS was sat playing but I couldn't see DD anywhere. One of the ladies noticed me looking round and asked another member of staff where my DD was. She replied that DD was with third member of staff. I said she wasn't as I had just seen the third member of staff washing pots in the kitchen.
So the first two staff and I started looking for DD, she was found outside, on her own on the wooden play equipment. No one had known where she was, or had even noticed her absence. The three members of staff had only been caring for 7 children.
My DD was fine, I picked her up and gave her a cuddle, got my DS and went home.
But now it's all I can think about. I don't know how long she was outside on her own, definitely 5 mins minimum. A lot could have happened in 5 mins, it didn't though I know.
The play area she was found in is right next to the road. Whilst the centre is gated, the gates are not locked as it is a drop in centre.
WWYD? Should this be recorded as a 'near miss' type event? Should I take it further, or just be glad my DD is safe? I really can't stop thinking about DD on her own.
She's a one year old! Oh my goodness. I'm guessing that you won't be taking them back there? I hope that you have good alternatives. If not, I'd make my complaint in person to the manager and explain how deeply disturbing this is and has been for you, that you no longer have faith in their supervision, etc. Request some means of reassurance that this will not happen again (change in the way children are led from one area to another, which is assigned to whom , etc. can't believe so few children, too. 7:3
I think i wouldve fruit looped on the spot.well done for being calm.
I hope you do complain and get some urgent action. The way they run the place must be seriously flawed if this can happen - why weren't there checks in place to assign responsibility to one person for knowing where a one year old is? Why didn't them realising your child had been left unattended not set off some serious alarm bells? Really unsafe, and needs dealing with.
Talk to crèche and complain to ofsted.
chelsbells's nursery sounds like a fairly standard missing child protocol. There should definitely be a record and training identified for the staff member(s) responsible as a result.
Have you read the OFSTED report? Was safeguarding flagged up as an area of concern?
I'd also ask to see their relevant policies. If they don't have one which covers this eventuality then I would be worried what else they didn't have.
Thank you Chelsbells, that's exactly the information I was looking for.
Glad to hear she was found safe and sound!!
I work in a nursery and the protocol for an incident like this would be managers taking witness statements of all staff, who left the outside space in what order, when then counted the children, who had the register, who checked the garden on leaving etc and how and when and what they did when they realized she was missing. This would then be gone through with you and reported to the local safeguarding board and suitable action then taken against the staff!
Ask to see the incident report as you have a right - and please complain to ofsted!! It isn't right that so called childcare can do this to the children!
Also, I am concerned that the other 5 parents on the course will continue to use this crèche facility for the next 4 weeks, and they will probably never know what happened on Friday, it could so easily have been one of their children.
I am absolutely against scaremongering and gossip, but I feel awful that I can't warn them about this.
Thank you zzzzzz, I'm going to go into the centre tomorrow morning and speak to the manager. I am going to ask if an incident report has been completed and really just get a feel for how seriously this is being taken. I will then probably contact OFSTED and talk it through with them.
Initially as others have already said, write to or talk to the manager. They may not be aware that the incident happened and they may be able to put in measures, procedures to prevent it happening again.
If the garden/playarea has a gate that is unlocked, then that needs addressing. It needs to be secure when in use by children.
An incident form should ideally have been completed at the time by the member of staff in charge at the time. Such reports are then used by management to identify risks and take action to minimise risks.
If actions taken by the manager are not to your satisfaction you could put a complaint in to the regulator.
Have had a closer look and their help is focused on children with sn, which is a pity as they will advocate for you. I think a call to ofsted to talk through your concerns and how to best tackle this will make you feel more confident.
I think it's easier to be business like and brave on the phone.
Zzzzzzz - could you tell me what parent partnership is?
You must put in a formal complaint, and you mustn't leave your child with them.
Parent partnership might be able to help if you are feeling wobbly.
I work in a children's centre and actually don't know what the procedure would be in that situation as we have never lost a child
I would want an immediate face to face meeting with the manager now though and would be contacting Ofsted and the LA.
Could anyone help? Particularly childcare professionals?
After I left the children's centre on Friday, should the staff have filled in some kind of record of this event? An accident book type entry of a safeguarding issue?
I would like to query wether this happened if it would have been standard procedure. I am concerned that they may not have done to protect themselves from internal or external investigation given their already 'inadequate' OFSTED rating.
There should be a children's centre manager who is in charge of everything at the centre. I would write/speak to them but I would also be reporting this to ofsted immediately. This type of neglect would, in my experience, trigger a visit by an ofsted inspector. The setting will be expected to show they have procedures in place for children in their care & ofsted will then want to know why these policies were not adhered to.
Please please do not let this go, please report it.
I'm sorry that it seems as though you won't be able to complete your course but under the circumstances I wouldn't leave her there again.
Woefully inadequate care, and clearly getting a poor OFSTED report hasn't shaken them up sufficiently to pull their socks up, so it would be a definite No.
Report them to OFSTED, and cc OFSTED in to any communication you have with the manager.
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Message withdrawn at poster's request.
Unfortunately I have guests all day tomorrow and most of the day on Monday, so will have to draft something Monday evening. Putting some more time between the event and writing the letter may actually help me to be less emotional and more direct with my complaint.
Definitely get it in writing and complain, I'd go to OFSTED too, even if you aren't ever going to use them again they need to improve things for the safety of other children. At 1 I'd expect staff have a child in their sights at all times.
Absolutely not good enough. Complain to ofsted.
Or email, emails even better. Legally it holds the same weight as a written letter and you get a copy of what was written, when it was sent etc.
Yup that's me too! But honestly within this set of circs you are not wrong to complain! From the sound of it you really need to continue with the childcare and if you complain, well its the only way really to get their attention and ensure they are properly looking after your child. Have you got anyone that could help you with the letter?
Notanyanymore - exactly, I hate difficult conversations and can imagine by the end of it I would be the one apologising profusely!
I'd complain straight away to the manager and to ofsted regardless of wanting to complete the course. I understand that you'll need them to provide childcare for the remainder of the sessions but they should be able to deal with your complaint in a mature way
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