Should I train to be a teacher or move for a £60K paid job?

(268 Posts)
Arthurlager Wed 27-Mar-13 13:48:37

I have a dilemma and would welcome opinions.

I am 39, have 3 DC, 11, 9, 6. I have a place on a teacher training course in September. It will mean no income for a year then a starting salary of £21K. And fab holidays of course. Things are already very tight financially. Just to keep my options open I have applied for, and got through to the last stage for, a job paying a starting salary of £60K, final salary pension, bonus scheme etc.

If I am offered the job, it would mean moving house to a part of the country I have always liked, moving schools etc, something I have never done before. But of course it is F/T so I would need a childminder or nanny as we have no family there.

So...what would you choose?

Arisbottle Tue 02-Apr-13 12:57:16

I did work in a big commercial environment . It doesn't piss me off. It may do, it may not

HesterShaw Tue 02-Apr-13 13:00:38

Actually after leaving teaching and setting up my own business, and dealing with other businesses, I was amazed at how "professional" I was in comparison, just in terms of sticking to promised deadlines, returning phonecalls and answering emails, and simple common courtesy and people skills. Teachers are brainwashed into thinking they are only good for teaching, but actually they are very employable.

WhatKindofFool Tue 02-Apr-13 13:13:52

Never seen more bizarre behaviour or politics in any business I have ever worked in.
Agreed. Also, I never saw so many egos.

BranchingOut Tue 02-Apr-13 13:36:18

One thought that comes to my mind is that individuals can have quite a different working experience/work-life balance/career progression within the overall career path of 'teaching'. For example:

Secondary English
Early Years
Secondary PE
Primary KS2
SEND

All teachers, but all very distinct paths! OP, my recommendation is that you pay very close attention to those teachers working in exactly the subject area and type of school that you would be considering. Knowing the workload and lifestyle of a secondary science teacher is not much use to you if you are considering secondary English.

For what it is worth, I have left teaching (ten years, KS1/EY, progressed to SLT level) and my life is immeasurably better. This is what I love about not teaching:

work that is less tiring - I now work at a desk, rather than standing, bending, turning and moving all day long.
better hours - 9.00 - 5.00 rather than 8.00 to 6.00, then as long as needed in my evenings and weekends, all the while feeling that I was not doing enough.
evenings - i can read, study or watch telly without guilt
weekends - i can read, study or watch telly without guilt
flexibility - if I am tired or have something going on, I can book a day off
privacy - I am no longer a person under scrutiny, albeit on a small scale
media - criticism of the education system is now nothing to do with me!
heath - as a teacher I felt constantly stressed, running like a wind-up toy and would often suffer from pains in my stomach during the working day.
family - most importantly, my job offers me pt, flexible hours so that I can be there for my own child, which the school system wholly failed to do.

Let us know what you decide to do,
best wishes.

HesterShaw Tue 02-Apr-13 13:36:55

"Don't sit in THAT chair! That's Marilyn's chair!"
"Don't use THAT mug!"

I used to ask the headteacher to do demo lessons so that I could see in practice the kind of things he wanted me to be doing, when he came in and endlessly criticised observed me. He refused. That, to me, said an awful lot.

Arisbottle Tue 02-Apr-13 13:49:27

I have quite a big ego, maybe that is why I fit in,

We have no set chairs though. Although drink out of my mug and you will die.

TwllBach Tue 02-Apr-13 18:10:41

I used to ask the headteacher to do demo lessons so that I could see in practice the kind of things he wanted me to be doing, when he came in and endlessly criticised observed me. He refused. That, to me, said an awful lot.

I have nearly fallen off my chair laughing at the idea of someone asking my head to do that grin

Although I would put everyone off if I could, I am still desperate to teach. It's a wonderful feeling OP, if you enjoy it. And I'm not a natural performer, I'm very shy, an introvert, but in the classroom I come alive. It's a truly beautiful thing...

dizzyhoneybee Tue 02-Apr-13 20:31:57

What really, really is sad about this thread is how hardly anybody (nobody?) has said that all the things that p you off with teaching can equally well p you off in a non-teaching job.

I have had nigh on 15 years in education and have had 3 days when I wondered what I was doing in the job and never clock watch. When I had a senior management job elsewhere the end of the day/my holiday couldn't come quick enough for me. Now I have a job that I love and enjoy going to work every day.

Seenitall Sun 07-Apr-13 00:29:02

Omg take the other job, I am currently in my Nqt year (well two years because I work part time) - nothing is ever good enough, my professional judgement is always in question, I spend every holiday ill and trying desperately trying to catch up, it's the hardest thing I've ever done, and I have 2 degrees & a MA, 60k I can't believe you are even wondering what to do, fuck the holidays you will have to use them to mark, plan, catchup anyway, by the way decided to throw in the towel and handed in my resignation last week - believe me it's not all its cracked up to be.

ravenAK Sun 07-Apr-13 01:10:36

blimey, grab the £60k, are you fully mad?!

(Secondary English teacher, specialising in Lit, consistently rated good or outstanding, love teaching, 13 years experience. Shattered & demoralised).

duchesse Sun 07-Apr-13 01:27:33

OP, go for the £60,000 job. (also former teacher)

The hours will be the same or better and you'll be paid 3x more. No brainer for me. Teaching is NOT a soft option. The only benefit is that you'd be around and compos mentis for the children for about a fortnight in the summer. Every other holiday will be spent recovering from a bug or playing catch-up with work and basic household chores. You will not get time to attend DC's pantos etc... or take them to anything much else. Go for the better paying job and get a really good nanny if you can afford it. Or if you really want to do the teacher training, get a job in a good boarding school afterwards where the children can be catered for all meals and see you a fair bit more than they would if you didn't work in the same school they are at, if that makes any sense.

duchesse Sun 07-Apr-13 10:22:21

Should add that in common with many others here I loved the actual teaching and buzz of being in school but loathed and feared the rest of the crap that goes with it. Unfortunately for me the fun of teaching couldn't outweigh the rest in the end.

superstarheartbreaker Mon 08-Apr-13 09:49:48

I trained as a teacher. I would take the 60K job. Without a doubt. I got pregnant at the end of the PGCE and was relieved to have time out tbh. I found the hardest thing was the bitchy staffroom politics but then mabe I'm just crap with people.

superstarheartbreaker Mon 08-Apr-13 09:52:55

BTW op; can you please tell me what job you are going for so that I can try and get into such a career!

Arthurlager Wed 17-Apr-13 16:58:47

Thank you all so much for all your advice. My heart is still in teaching, but all your comments have really made me think again.

They have offered me the job.

And I think I am going to take it.

And it is now £65K.

Childcare is going to be a major mind boggle but at least I will have some money to throw at it.

OMG.

WhatKindofFool Wed 17-Apr-13 19:48:11

Good luck. I bet you have made the right decision. Xx

Arthurlager Wed 17-Apr-13 21:49:28

Thanks for your reply. If I don't try then I will never know, will I?

TwllBach Wed 17-Apr-13 21:57:16

Well done OP grin

FWIW, teacher training will always be there - if you don't like this job you can go for it.

Good luck!

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