Can you look at what I ate today?

(57 Posts)
mytwoblackandwhitecats Sat 28-Jun-14 21:40:22

I'm trying really hard to eat "normally" smile I am a bit overweight but not hugely significantly (would like to lose a stone.)

Breakfast - cup of tea with semi skimmed milk

Lunch - one banana (was out and got stuck in traffic, I would normally have something a bit more substantial.)

Evening meal - one rainbow trout fillet. Half a yellow pepper, half an orange pepper. Salad (just leaves!) the peppers and trout were cooked with a small amount of butter - just a scraping. I also had a tiny blob of reduced fat mayonnaise with salad.

One tub blush of strawberries with one tablespoon of clotted cream.

Harley's orange jelly - one of those individual pots.

I've just had water and a can of diet coke to drink.

Am I on the right lines ... My fitness pal says I am on 850 calories but I think it's underestimated the strawberries.

That is not eating normally, that is starving yourself.
Where was your breakfast, snack and lunch??

MaloryArcher Sat 28-Jun-14 21:43:04

That is basically starving your body.

Why are you eating such a stupidly small amount of food?

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sat 28-Jun-14 21:43:53

Do you really think so? I thought I'd eaten well!

Normally I would have had something a bit more substantial for lunch, but I was out from 10-1, and then got stuck in traffic. We stopped at a garage but other than chocolate and crisps there were just a few tired looking apples and bananas on offer so I had a banana. Then when we got in it was half 3, and I decided to hang on until 6 smile

I had a LOT of strawberries!

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sat 28-Jun-14 21:44:55

Okay Malory - no need to be rude hmm

I don't think it's that small an amount, I really don't? I'm surprised both of you do.

God Lord. Eating well does not mean eating nothing.

You will not lose weight because you are starving. You need 3 meals and 2 snacks every single day, protein at every meal and good fats.

Branleuse Sat 28-Jun-14 21:46:47

its too little.

MaloryArcher Sat 28-Jun-14 21:48:01

But it is stupid.

Nothing for breakfast. Nothing but a banana for the rest of the day until a paltry evening meal. Diet jelly that is full of crap. Strawberries that are mostly sugar.

Eating like that is doing your body no favours.

Cluelessat30 Sat 28-Jun-14 21:48:23

Try some yoghurt and spoon of granola at breakfast if you need something quick, and yes to proper lunch too. You're on the right track with dinner.

NorksEnormous Sat 28-Jun-14 21:50:02

I ate like this for ages when dieting and couldn't lose weight- would lose 1lb one week then put on 2lb the next week! Joined slimming world and eat 3 meals a day now and an evening snack and have lost 1 and a half stone in 8 weeks- speaks for itself really!!

Glitterkitten24 Sat 28-Jun-14 21:52:15

Hmmm, a bit light on food I'd say, you must be starving - I doubt you'd be able to maintain eating that little over a week/ month.

Have you considered low carbing? There is a whole board on here about it, but I find it a really easy way to controls diet without feeling deprived or hungry. Just a thought!

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sat 28-Jun-14 21:52:41

Malory - okay hmm

I never eat breakfast and it's pointless pretending I will, I have to be up very early and I just cannot face food at 5:45 in the morning.

I've explained about the lunch.

I don't think one pot of jelly and some strawberries are that terrible.

It's really hard for me not to binge eat/starve. Yes, some of you claim I've "starved" today but I clearly haven't. I might not have eaten what some deem enough but I certainly haven't starved.

I'm just working on some healthy-ish meals - if this is something you always do then I suppose today wouldn't seem much of a big deal to you but to me it is, so hmm

Anyway, I'll hide the thread as I know it's very silly but I am actually quite upset with how "blunt" the comments are.

callamia Sat 28-Jun-14 21:52:43

You've eaten virtually no protein, or much that's useful.
A cup of tea isn't a breakfast is it? What vitamins and energy are you getting from that? It sounds like you're running on sugar; strawberries, banana and jelly.

Where are your carbs? Your fibre and protein? I don't think today's eating is 'normal', I just don't think it's enough to sustain you in any decent way.

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sat 28-Jun-14 21:53:33

Norks eating very little does help me lose weight; strange that wink

Yes, I like the idea of low carbing smile

PunchHouse Sat 28-Jun-14 21:53:53

Tea is not breakfast. A banana is not a meal.

You stand a far better chance of losing weight for the long term if you start eating three proper, healthy meals a day, and nothing else.

Eat a decent meal, give your body the time to digest and use that energy. Wait until the next mealtime. Then eat another meal.

A meal = protein + carbs + fruit/veg.

Watch your portion sizes. And don't snack.

callamia Sat 28-Jun-14 22:06:16

Eating very little will help you to lose weight. As a former anorexic, I can testify it's definitely effective. But it's not sustainable... Or healthy, or enjoyable.

It's worth thinking about what you want out of food, and how to achieve 'good' meals. I'm currently weaning my baby, and I'm really having to think about whether our meals provide enough iron, vitamins, energy etc. it's having a surprisingly positive effect on my diet! I might market this ;)

allisgood1 Sat 28-Jun-14 22:09:27

You can't skip meals. You won't lose weight this way. Your body will hold the calories you don't eat and also you are probably overeating all evening.

alleypalley Sun 29-Jun-14 01:37:31

You don't need 3 meals a day, and you shouldn't snack. Some harsh comments on here.

mytwo if you happy eating that way then maybe you should check out the 5:2 threads.

lettertoherms Sun 29-Jun-14 02:12:03

OP, I'm also the type that it's very hard for me to hit the right number. If I'm not careful, I will binge, but if I am watching, I struggle to eat more than 900 calories.

You do have to make yourself. It's ok to eat this little as a one-off, but if you sustain it, your metabolism adjusts to only need that amount of calories, and you hold or gain weight. And it's not underestimating the strawberries - berries have very few calories, even though it seems like more, since they're so sweet and substantial.

Your dinner sounds like a great meal, and I would try to repeat something like that for lunch. It's best if you can manage breakfast, even if it's just a banana or slice of whole grain toast, but if you just can't eat breakfast, do try to eat those calories elsewhere. If I find myself at 900 calories, I might eat a small amount of nuts and some cheese, or even a granola bar. Something that's manageable to eat, but can pack in that 300+ necessary calories quickly. Under 1,200 for women is medically starving. Depending on your frame you probably need more than that, especially as you don't have much to lose.

Finally - the diet coke and orange jelly are things I would avoid as a regular, and only have as a treat. The artificial sweeteners and flavorings simply aren't good for you, and have been linked to weight gain, as well as other health issues.

SavoyCabbage Sun 29-Jun-14 02:12:52

There is nowhere near enough protein. Or much of anything other than sugar. You must have been starving by the time you had the fish.

You need to eat more normally and regularly. I think it's a bit of a trap to hardly have anything all day then allow yourself to 'make up for it' in the evenings.

goodasitgets Sun 29-Jun-14 02:21:25

Can you cope with drinking something in the morning? Even a protein shake with almond milk is better than nothing
Try to have protein at every meal. Strawberries fine but to balance the sugar hit I would add some full fat Greek yoghurt. Don't be scared of eating fat
Fish and salad good but I would add more salad to that, and use full fat mayo, maybe sweet potato too if you like it or brown rice?

This is a typical day food for me low carb (and my PT still said I wasn't eating enough) shock

Breakfast - 3 eggs, usually scrambled with butter, bacon or ham or feta cheese
Lunch - huge salad with tuna/feta/protein, full fat mayo
Tea - chicken (with skin), veg, sweet potato
Protein shake after gym, snacks of cold meat/berries and cream/veg/handful nuts/pork belly rind

goodasitgets Sun 29-Jun-14 02:22:35

Oh and try and keep something in car/bag when stuck in traffic - seeds/nuts anything like that
I would have eaten something at 3 and then again at 6 or maybe 7

tobysmum77 Sun 29-Jun-14 06:44:29

can't you see that starving yourself is one of the causes of bingeing because you are starving and can hold out no longer?

Personally I think you would be better joining ww or sw because they will educate you to actually eat properly and enough. Food is not the enemy your body needs it to be healthy.

tobysmum77 Sun 29-Jun-14 06:47:15

the problem with asking online is people have different ideas, for example full fat mayo is awful in terms of calories and unnecessary as long as you are eating healthy, filling food imo.

allisgood1 Sun 29-Jun-14 09:58:51

I personally find it much easier to do a diet where I don't have to count calories! Whenever I have counted calories I have lost very little. The second I changed to a paleo lifestyle and ignored calories I lost 2 stone.

McBear Sun 29-Jun-14 10:06:10

Breakfast is a funny one for me. Generally, if I don't eat it I'm not hungry til later in the day. It's like eating awakens my hunger.

I've started eating 2 slices of peanut butter on toast and a banana for breakfast. This really sets me up for hours.

Lunch is a chicken breast with flavouring on (sachets available in herbs and spices aisle) and mixed veg

Tea is chicken (with a different flavour so I don't get bored) or gammon and salad.

It's doing well for me and I go to the gym three or four times a week. Those strawberries will have been estimated too low. They're full of sugar and quite calorific. Sometimes it's just better to have a chocolate bar.

goodasitgets Sun 29-Jun-14 11:26:38

I said full fat mayo because OP expressed an interest in low carb
It's oil, eggs, vinegar. Nothing bad for you, and OP isn't eating enough calories anyway

sanfairyanne Sun 29-Jun-14 11:30:52

you sound an ideal candidate for 5:2

eat like that 2 days a week then normally the other 5

AnyoneForTennis Sun 29-Jun-14 11:36:30

So much sugar

And why are you so afraid of 'fat'?

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sun 29-Jun-14 12:26:07

Is there any chance we could leave it now, please? I think we've established my eating is terrible and that I should stuff my face with chocolate instead. I'm sorry - I do want to eat better but I really am quite upset, not by what's been said but by the tone of these messages. We bured my dad a month ago today, I'm trying to keep on top of things as best I can and while I know I'm not perfect I honestly thought yesterday was good because:

* I didn't eat rubbish when we were stuck but had a banana
* lots of fresh food - fish, salad, veg, strawberries.

I'm not afraid of fat: I cooked the fish in butter, had a (small) amount of Mayo and a small amount of clotted cream. I actually thought I'd be pulled up on that, not the amount which seemed okay to me.

So anyway, please leave it, it was yesterday, I won't ask again don't worry!

ShellyW40 Sun 29-Jun-14 12:31:02

Starving yourself like that is not healthy and long-term you are heading for a future of yo-yoing in weight.

Let me ask you: What exercise did you do today?

If the answer is "None", you need to re-evaluate things. Your diet is only half of the equation when it comes to be healthy and slim.

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sun 29-Jun-14 12:38:39

I did plenty of exercise thank you.

Please could we leave it now? smile

No one said you should stuff your face with chocolate.

I'm really so sorry about your dad thanks. When you are grieving just be kind to yourself and don't worry about your weight (easier said than done I know).

When you are able, you could see a nutritionist and get a really good healthy eating plan written up. It could help you break the binge & starve cycle.

Now I will leave you alone...look after yourself (())

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sun 29-Jun-14 13:18:54

Thanks, taking smile I don't think I need to see a nutritionist, I just need to try to eat a bit more regularly and normally. The last 6 weeks have been awful, and I have been veering between starvation (not intentionally, but initially I really couldn't face food) and snacking on chocolate and cake-y things.

By contrast, fresh fish,veg, salad, fruit is good. Yes, I accept there wasn't enough yesterday: I've just had an identical lunch, using the other half of the yellow and orange pepper, another trout fillet and salad, and it was delicious if I say so myself. Now I've got another tub of strawberries (they were/ are all on offer at sainsburys!) but for later I've got a banana, a chicken salad sandwich and a chocolate mousse (I am at work so a packed lunch.)

I suppose I was feeling quite proud of myself! sad

AggressiveBunting Sun 29-Jun-14 14:20:32

Re breakfast- could you eat a bit later? I also get up at 5.45 as I go to the gym, then come home and go school run before work so I have breakfast when I get in to work just before 9. i do a desk job so that works ok but I guess if you do a 'real time' job it's not so easy. Then I have lunch at 2 and dinner at 8. Works for me. And don't worry about the strawberries. No-one ever got fat by eating too many strawberries.

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sun 29-Jun-14 14:25:55

I can't really - hopefully I'll be able to go back to my old job soonish, but at the moment it's pretty full on!

I USED to eat breakfast when I didn't have to get up in the middle of the night <yawn>

It wasn't very inspired though. I usually had two Weetabix with semi skimmed milk and a cup of tea! I had the same problem as the poster above though in that breakfast made me hungry!

allisgood1 Sun 29-Jun-14 14:27:26

Even for today, take a look at the amount of sugar you are consuming. Try replacing high sugar foods with little/no sugar foods.

I also can't face breakfast in the morning so I make a huge batch of muffins (using almond flour--loads of recipes on Pinterest or follow "just eat real food" on fb)...these last me a week so I take two and hit the road and eat later (10ish) when I get hungry.

mytwoblackandwhitecats Sun 29-Jun-14 14:29:25

What sugar? I genuinely don't understand where all this sugar is I'm consuming? In the fruit? Both WW and SW (a previous poster advised both these) have you eat as much fruit as you want.

I don't have sugar in my tea and I don't add it to anything at all. One tiny chocolate mousse, a banana and strawberries?

allisgood1 Sun 29-Jun-14 14:29:30

Meant to add: the wheat that we consume is more likely to make us hungrier. That's why I use almond flour when making muffins, bread, etc as it's already wheat free and high in protein so will fill you up rather than make you hungry!

allisgood1 Sun 29-Jun-14 14:36:20

The fruit is generally not a bad thing. Bananas are high in sugar, strawberries are medium. That doesn't mean don't consume them that just means don't consume vast quantities. Low sugar fruits that you can eat more of include raspberries and blackberries. Also a handful of almonds is a good snack (be careful again not to eat these by the ton).

I would stay away from things like jelly and mousse, even the "sugar free" ones as they are worse.

Cakeismymaster Tue 01-Jul-14 18:57:18

cats I think it looked like a fine amount to eat and certainly didn't look like a load of junk.
Just wanted to say that smile

georgedawes Tue 01-Jul-14 19:05:33

I'd do 5:2 too if I were you, sounds like you'll find it easy to do

idontlikealdi Wed 02-Jul-14 12:42:47

Just wanted to say that this:

"You need 3 meals and 2 snacks every single day"

is not right, no one needs 2 snacks a day.

The reason for the 3 meals and 2 snacks is to prevent you going more than 3 hours between eating.

gelati3 Wed 02-Jul-14 13:15:32

Have a look at Jon Gabriel's site (Gabriel Method). He gives lots of ideas of healthy eating and also looks at the psychology of why some people are overweight.

PrincessTheresaofLiechtenstein Wed 02-Jul-14 13:25:26

Poor you, OP, I do think some comments have been a bit harsh. I have been there with the "all or nothing" approach and do understand. I am struggling myself, so have no magic answers, but two things spring to mind - a bit more protein and veg overall would be good, and also don't look at one day in isolation, look at a whole week and see how things balance out - one 850 calories day, if you are satisfied, isn't going to put you in starvation mode or any such nonsense if it is followed by a couple of 1800 days or whatever. But if you are actually hungry on that 850 day, that's not good, as you might feel deprived and feel the need to binge later in the week.

I get fed up when people bang on about breakfast - no point eating when not hungry. Also get fed up when people demonise fruit - at least you are eating the sugar in the fruit alongside all its fibre and nutrients. I also think it's good to balance fruit with a few nuts as well - protein again!

ouryve Wed 02-Jul-14 13:35:07

Dinner fine, but you need to replicate that at lunchtime, as you will soon start to feel it if you don't have more protein and less sugary fruit in your diet. Maybe organise yourself to make up a tub of salad the night before, when you prepare your evening meal. Don't miss breakfast if you're not used to missing breakfast.

If it was a 250g tub of strawberries, then that's about 3 portions.

scarlettsmummy2 Wed 02-Jul-14 13:39:34

Going to go against the mould and say that it sounds fine to me! I regularly eat similar amounts, don't feel hungry and am a size 8-10.

BubaMarra Wed 02-Jul-14 13:55:20

I understand the breakfast thing, I don't eat it, I can't bring myself to eat it and eventually stopped beating myself about it.
But you need more protein in your diet. Maybe for lunch have something similar to your dinner. And don't worry about strawberries, they are one of the least calorific fruits - only about 30kcal per 100g comapred to apple around 50kcal or cherries 80 kcal. So a tub would hardly make 100kcal in total. What is meant by too much sugar is that while fruit is full of good stuff like vitamins and minerals and fiber, they come at a little bit higher 'cost' in terms of calories. In other words, you can have all that good things if you eat vegetable without going overboard in terms of calories and sugar consumption. It's actually quite easy to go over board with fruit, especially those denser and starchier like bananas.

BubaMarra Wed 02-Jul-14 13:59:57

Oh and sorry about your dad thanks.
I also think that your diet is not horrible, especially if you tend to have a proper lunch as you said you usually do. Just make it protein rich and full of vegetables.
Well done for resisting junk food and chosing banana instead. Banana might not be ideal food, but it is better than mars bar for sure.

elastamum Wed 02-Jul-14 14:08:43

OP, I think posters are giving you a rather hard time. There is no problem not eating breakfast if you are not hungry and eating 850 calories in a day is more than a fast day on 5:2.

Would suggest you work out what works for you and what you can stick to and feel comfortable. for me it has been cereal, protein and salads and cutting out snacks and sugary carbs. No one needs 3 meals a day and snacks between, it is just how our culture developed. When I was a kid, (am old) we never routinely got offered snacks between meals.

And guess what? nothing happens if you go more than 3 hours without eating. It is worth doing because we eat so much in our culture, that we have forgotten what hunger feels like.

fatlazymummy Sun 06-Jul-14 11:37:19

It looks OK to me too, though a little low in calories. You're not supposed to go under 1200 calories a day (averaged out)
The only other problem I see is your lunch. If you're generally busy at this time of day then it might be better to pack a lunch and take it with you.
And don't worry if you don't fancy breakfast. Some people do better on 2 meals a day,for you this could be lunch and dinner. And it's fine to go 6 hours between meals.
There are lots of different theories concerning weight management around at the moment but they are just theories. You will know what works for you if you a) lose weight and b) feel and look well and energetic while you're doing it.

ThePowerOfMe Mon 07-Jul-14 09:24:36

Op ignore the negative comments.
Don't eat breakfast if you don't want. There's no law that says you have to. I don't eat breakfast anymore. I find it kick starts my appetite and I think of food all day. I'm better off without it.
There's nothing wrong with what you ate. The only problem is if you eat that little every day. It's hard to sustain and too little but for most people, it evens out.
You can eat what you're eating 4/5 days a week and then eat a bit more over the weekend and you'll be fine.
Eat in a way that suits you, and as long as it's not disordered eating, ignore what people say.

And have a look at the fasting diet section. It may suit you or it may not. Good luck.

MillyDots Mon 07-Jul-14 13:56:07

There are some good positive posts for you on the last page of your thread. Your on the right track just make sure you eat when you are hungry and stop as soon as you are satisfied. Nothing wrong with fruit at all. The only thing I would stay away from is processed food and diet food. Not good for your body.

Deux Mon 07-Jul-14 14:19:50

There are few post on here suggesting such low calorie consumption will lead to the body retaining calories?

Isn't that one if those Diet Myths that's been busted. It's utter nonsense and applies to the extreme long term only.

OP, I don't see a problem with what you ate. I just don't understand this you must eat 3 meals and 2 snacks thing. SW might work but you have to eat like that forever!

If it works for you OP, do it. You'll soon be able to tell.

McBear Mon 07-Jul-14 17:11:36

Bananas are a fantastic good! There's an internet article circling at the minute saying how good they are!

McBear Mon 07-Jul-14 17:11:53

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