Come and join Sugar Free Club. First rule of Sugar Free Club is...er...we don't eat sugar.

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SomewhatSilly Sat 01-Feb-14 09:50:41

And that's the only rule, really.

Come one, come all and join us!

zestypears Sat 01-Feb-14 11:20:14

Yay! Love the title grin

So, my name's Zesty and I'm a sugar addict. I'm now on Day 3 of sugar free and it hasn't been easy but the more I read about the effects of sugar the more determined I am to give this a proper go!

I woke up with a hangover headache this morning but I think that's just part of the territory as my body is adapting to life without sugar.

I've stopped eating all processed foods/empty calories:

Cakes
Biscuits
Ice cream
Processed breads

As we discussed in the last thread, sometimes there'll be an SOS situation (social obligation sugar!) where it might be rather rude to decline the sugar (a birthday cake etc), but as long as we recognise these moments for what they are then you can overlook it as long as it truly is just the once!

Would be lovely to see some new and familiar faces as we enter a Sugar Free February!! smile

HearMyRoar Sat 01-Feb-14 12:29:48

Hiya all! Love the new thread somewhat. This fabulous grin

What your feeling sounds pretty familiar zesty I felt petty awful for the first 2 weeks. For anyone who is interested my withdrawals included the following:

Headaches
Tiredness
Bloating
Extreme thirst
Occasional nausea
Lower back ache and general achiness
Emotional madness (I burst into tears on the phone to me mum for no obvious reason blush )
Being basically horrid and miserable to be around

Basically it was grim, I thought on a number of occasions that I was being an idiot to even bother, but if you get through those first few weeks you do feel better. I promise smile

SomewhatSilly Sat 01-Feb-14 13:16:38

Some snack ideas:

Olives
Nuts (blanched almonds fried in olive oil and sprinkled in rock salt feel particularly decadent)
Full-fat Greek yoghurt with yummy toppings (I also stir in double cream for extra luxury)
Toasted seeds (I like a mixture of pumpkin and sesame)
Oat cakes with cream cheese, tapenade or hummus
Fruit - berries are best sugar wise
Halved avocado with balsamic vinegar and olive oil

Whenever I've had a sugar craving that was in real danger of leading down the slippery slope, I've had some dried figs or dates. At least that way I figure I'm getting some healthy micronutrients along with the sugar! I managed to pick up some baby figs the other day and had them in the bath with a lovely cup of tea, it felt just like eating sweeties.

What good snacks have I missed?

zestypears Sat 01-Feb-14 16:15:56

Ooh nice snack ideas, I need to do an internet shop! It is waaaay past my bedtime now but I'll be back tomorrow! smile

Lettucesnow Sat 01-Feb-14 16:33:40

As a type 2 diabetic I'm with you guys. I will have to go on meds if my bloodsugers numbers don't come down so I'm trying to do my best before my check up this month.

I'm having 0% greek yogurt with berries bananas and raw oats for breakfast and a few lunches, with lots of water or green tea to drink.

SomewhatSilly Sat 01-Feb-14 16:55:46

Hi Lettuce, welcome! Can I ask if there's a particular reason for the 0% Total? I would stick to the full fat stuff if possible.

SomewhatSilly Sat 01-Feb-14 17:00:19

Here's a good blog on the benefits of full fat dairy:

www.marksdailyapple.com/dairy-fat-healthy-paleo-primal/#axzz2pwtux6Yq

Lettucesnow Sat 01-Feb-14 18:36:24

A chef who lost a few stone and 'reversed' his diabetes used this recipe. I need to lose weight. some...

Dosey Sat 01-Feb-14 22:17:04

Hi there count me in and thank you for the new thread somewhat. No sugar for me today. But mil bought me a huge bar of dairy milk which I have hidden at the back of the cupboard. Am sure dds and dp will polish it off.

I started counting out sugar on 10th January, I found it hard after 10 days. I have slipped up a few times and had a major blow out but I think I am in control now.

My aim is to be able to occasionally enjoy my mums baking (have I mentioned how good it is) without it leading to a massive binge.

I have had quite a stressful day which hasn't lead me to the kids sweets. That is a first.

zestypears Sun 02-Feb-14 09:02:10

Well done on your good day Dosey! And welcome Lettuce! smile

Did anyone watch the Horizon documentary on fat vs sugar? Everyone seems to be making such a big deal of it but I rather agree with Dr Briffa's interesting take on the issue, saying that it had an anti-fat bias and was essentially a fluff piece.

Today's gone well for me, I'm surprised I haven't had any cravings as such, what I have been noticing though is how much I'd turn to (sugary) snacking as a mindless automatic reflex, e.g. While watching tv in the evening. Not doing that any more feels quite strange!

SomewhatSilly Sun 02-Feb-14 09:22:36

Zesty, I saw it and wasn't impressed at all. They promised to tell us which one was worse for us the answer is obviously sugar and bad fats.

Then they answered a different question confused. They answered the question, 'which one do we like best?'

And the answer? Well duh - we like them both, together! Which tells us precisely nothing about the relative health risks/benefits.

Dumb science.

JimmyCorkhill Sun 02-Feb-14 09:28:44

Count me in too smile

I'm on day 11 of no sugar or wheat. I am loving eating full fat.

I haven't had any major side effects, am I lucky or doing it wrong?! But I am feeling waaaay more anxious/over sensitive than usual.

Love the acronym SOS. This is what worries me. I know that sometimes there'll be no avoiding eating sugar/wheat to be 'polite' which I can accept but what will that mean for me cravings wise?

littlewhitebag Sun 02-Feb-14 10:04:59

I am trying to avoid processed foods and sugar in particular. I cannot find tasty snacks other than fruit which I don't want to eat too much of.

I keep looking at nuts but they are calorific and i want to keep my calories down. I do not want to go down the full fat/Atkins route. Been there, hated it.

Good health and weight loss are my goals.

Anyone got any good ideas for healthy but lowish calorie snacks?

SomewhatSilly Sun 02-Feb-14 10:35:15

How about basing your snack on protein lwb?

Boiled eggs
Biltong/jerky
Cottage cheese
Hummus and crudités?

littlewhitebag Sun 02-Feb-14 10:38:16

Yes that is a good idea. Protein would keep me full longer. I used to snack on cheddar cheese but swapping it for cottage cheese would work. I sometimes have mini tubs of Philly light with veg sticks. I also like boiled eggs and lean meat. Am off to supermarket later so I will stock up.

SomewhatSilly Sun 02-Feb-14 10:38:35

Or you could make your own trail mix? Maybe some chopped nuts, oats/other grain of choice, coconut flakes and a few chopped dates for a bit of sweetness, covered in melted coconut oil and baked on very low until crispy?

Coconut meat/flakes on their own are also tasty and quite satisfying.

HearMyRoar Sun 02-Feb-14 11:02:11

That trail mix sounds amazing. Must make some. Must add coconut oil to my shopping list. Also biltong, not sure why I hadn't thought of that as a good snack idea. smile

zestypears Sun 02-Feb-14 11:23:04

Somewhat silly, that trail mix is the way forward!!!

littlewhitebag Sun 02-Feb-14 11:30:04

The trail mix idea doesn't really do it for me. Too small and fiddly and it would get all stuck in my teeth. I am obsessed about things being stuck in my teeth!

Dosey Sun 02-Feb-14 19:36:15

Had a lovely Sunday dinner at my mums but after a trip to the park she presented me with a scone piled with jam and cream. Well I had to eat it under the SOS rules of course! However, this would have been the start of the slippery slope and an excuse to raid the kids sweets and chocolates for thr rest of the day. But it never happened. I ate it, enjoyed it but I have eaten of or wanted to eat another thing since. I feel so full. So I do feel very good for having achieved this. The bar of dairy milk is still untouched at the back of the cupboard. Never has chocolate lasted so long in the house.

JimmyCorkhill Sun 02-Feb-14 20:09:34

That's good to hear Dosey and well done! I am so scared that I will mess up after an SOS so it's great to know that you don't necessarily become like a wild thing seeking out crappy food and shoveling it in!!

I now know I must not buy packets of nuts to replace snacks. I just can't stop picking at them. It's really weird but since I have started eating in this way I don't know how to be 'not hungry'. I've realised that I am always snacking, drinking, planning what to eat... I don't know how to be full grin

karatekimmi Sun 02-Feb-14 20:09:42

Well February is about sorting out the diet, I have already given up sugar in my tea, and tried to give up biscuits at work --always available in the staff room, and I can't really, and don't want to, avoid the staff room as that's where you find everything out!!--I tend to eat homemade food, so I need to be more aware of any sugar in anything. I'm not sure if I am giving up potatoes, bread, pasta and rice, Im going to try to avoid bread, but I am not sure how realistic it will be!

PinkPeanuts Sun 02-Feb-14 20:25:56

Hello all, I'd love to join you, planning to go sugar free as of tomorrow. I've tried Atkins style low carby eating but it doesn't work for me long term. Sugar free however is something that sounds sustainable to me. Not looking to to withdrawal headaches tho!

Dosey Sun 02-Feb-14 21:24:43

jimmy I know what you mean about nuts. They are so moreish. I have found that if I do need to snack between meals, cheese and crackers or full fat Greek natural yoghurt does the trick. But snacking between meals is something else I am trying to give up. I am also doing 5:2 which seems to have reset my appetite.

Hi Pink so far I haven't suffered from headaches but there have been a few days where I have been an evil bitch from hell and I have had some bizarre dreams. At the moment I am feeling the benefits and feel really good, full of energy and my mood is sooo good. Dp has been at work all weekend so just me and dds. I have not once lost my rag with them, we have had such a fab weekend.

JimmyCorkhill Sun 02-Feb-14 22:40:16

Phew, glad someone else mentioned bizarre dreams. I have had some corkers grin

This evening I have had loads of energy. First time ever! I usually collapse on the sofa once the kids are in bed. I totally wasted it though by just saying 'I have loads of energy, I should do something" every ten minutes to DP but hopefully this isn't a one off and I can actually utilise it next time!

zestypears Sun 02-Feb-14 23:47:20

Well done Dosey!

PinkPeanuts: "Sugar free however is something that sounds sustainable to me." you have absolutely hit the nail on the head there, I think. Having tried every diet out there, I've learned that sustainability is the key. Saying NO to processed sugary crap with all the additives and preservatives is, I believe sustainable. The body doesn't need them and can live without them. For me, cutting out starches in a fell swoop won't be sustainable, and I think that's going to be the key to my success. No eating plan will suit you in the long term, in the long run, if it's just all about deprivation.

With regards to the rice/potatoes question, I just can't equate something that is a whole food, that's come straight out of the ground (a potato), as being demonised in the way a processed chocolate muffin (the ones that come in plastic wrappers!) can be. Yes, the potato is converted into sugar in the body but I just can't accept that it's so terrible that it belongs in the same category as processed junk. (I appreciate others may feel differently which is fine!)

So, I am eating potatoes, karate, I am also easting white rice and pasta in sensible (small) portions. If I could find brown rice then I would but I'm not in the UK, and rice and pasta only come in one variety in this country - white! I am however giving up the bread - as I mentioned in the last thread it was coming back from holiday and finding a 2 week old white loaf in exactly the same state as we left it that made me realise how much crap there is in processed food, and here I am today! Again, there's no option of wholemeal bread here, but if there were then I may have some occassionally as a treat.

Slight loss on the scales this morning! smile

SomewhatSilly Sun 02-Feb-14 23:52:23

Well done zesty. Where are you, if you don't mind me asking? My DH is japanese so I wouldn't be able to give up the white rice!

zestypears Sun 02-Feb-14 23:53:13

(-and if I could find the whole meal bread as proper fresh bread with no nasties.)

zestypears Sun 02-Feb-14 23:54:12

Ohayo gozaimasu! wink

SomewhatSilly Mon 03-Feb-14 10:19:05

Ohayo! grin

helloeverything Mon 03-Feb-14 15:01:38

I'm just joining in again from the January thread. I'm finally feeling more like myself, still on the thirsty side, and a bit of insomnia but its getting better. Total of 2kg weight loss which is encouraging. Trying to not eat so much bread now, but living in France does not make this easy...
I'm with you on the potatoes thing zesty, I've been making potato and celeriac dauphinoise with double cream and butter. I've been doing a lot of baking and then giving it away straight away, I've suddenly become a benelovent baker instead of a greedy hoarder.

Nettee Mon 03-Feb-14 17:13:34

Hello again, good to see a new thread for my new start after a bad week. Feel like I am back to square one but the only way is forwards.

I saw the horizon program, thanks for the link to dr Briffa. I do think that most of the sugar I eat is mixed with fat as they showed so I thought it was a helpful perspective.

Lettucesnow Mon 03-Feb-14 17:20:27

I bought sweets at the theatre this weekend and after eating just a couple I gave the rest away saying please take them, i dont NEED any more!

They would have ALL been eaten suruptitiously normally.

RhondaJean Mon 03-Feb-14 17:24:10

Hey I think this is what I am doing! Except I call it clean eating.

Everything from scratch, no added sugars and no processed foods.

Some of the foods I am eating, wholemeal and spelt breads and pittas, brown rice etc, will turn partially into sugars but thats ok is it?

I have PCOS and can get into nasty sugar tailspins where I crave more and more so every so often I just need to stop the cycle.

SomewhatSilly Mon 03-Feb-14 17:32:40

Hi Rhonda, yes that sounds like what most of us are doing - the only common rule is that we're all avoiding the obvious sugars, but there are then quite a few further variations. Some are avoiding all refined carbs some wheat, some all grains etc.

Dosey Mon 03-Feb-14 21:48:34

Just checking in. It was a fast day for me which makes it much easier to avoid sugar. For my tea I had omelette and a pear which was lovely. But another day without craving sugar and its feeling good.

Hope tomorrow is as easy. I have packed up my lunch of couscous with veg with melted cheese and fruit for pudding, but also i am taking a packet of hula hoops. I feel slightly guilty about them but I have read the label and they are very low in sugar.

littlewhitebag Tue 04-Feb-14 06:13:07

Hello folks. Just checking in. I am doing okay and still avoiding sugary processed junk on the whole. I have had a nasty cough so from time to time feel the need to suck a mint or cough sweet just so I don't throw up when having a coughing bout. However I know this will pass.

I have been trying some different snacks. The Tesco wasabi peas were a massive fail. The coating on them is truly disgusting and tastes like poison. I have another pack of mixed beans and peas which I will try today.

I am not planning on giving up bread but have switched to whole meal varieties. I do like a sandwich for lunch. I have given up crisps though which has been hard but I think I will survive.

It would be nice to tell you all how much better I feel but unfortunately I seem to have had one virus after another since the start of January and I am getting very frustrated. I have cut down alcohol and eating healthily and am being much more active. It is very annoying to still be feeling crap.

Must stop rambling and get on with my day. Hope you all have a good, suger free day!

SomewhatSilly Tue 04-Feb-14 08:17:52

Little, have you got a good vitamin d3 supplement?

littlewhitebag Tue 04-Feb-14 09:42:56

somewhatsilly I tend not to take vitamins. What would vitamin d3 do for me?

I tend to believe that if i eat a balanced diet i will get all the vitamins and minerals i need. I eat a huge variety of fruit, veg, protein, dairy, whole grains, pulses etc.

I think the ongoing virus saga is more to do with my job. I am in and out of schools, hospitals, stuffy offices and peoples (often manky) houses.

IAmNotDarling Tue 04-Feb-14 09:46:40

Oooooh I want to join in but I'm completely addicted. I don't know how to start without becoming a raging mad person.

chocoluvva Tue 04-Feb-14 09:52:45

littlewhitebag Almost everyone in Britain and countries at similar latitudes are deficient in Vit d3 in the winter. We don't get enough sunlight.

waterlego Tue 04-Feb-14 09:55:45

Me too IamnotDarling. I have been eating too much sugar for a very long time. I'm not overweight but I do have epic mood swings, esp pre-menstrual, and I suspect cutting down on/eliminating sugar would help.

So far, I have stopped having honey in my tea. grin

But the thought of giving up the rest of my sugary treats gives me The Fear.

SomewhatSilly Tue 04-Feb-14 10:04:14

What about a food-based supplement? I take this one:
http://www.red23.co.uk/Blue-Ice-Fermented-Cod-Liver-Oil-Capsules_p_542.html

It's a bit old-school grin

Choccoluvva, off-topic but I meant to ask on the other thread if you had any good links about preserved meats? And do you make your own sausages at all, or do you avoid all together?

SomewhatSilly Tue 04-Feb-14 10:04:24
milk Tue 04-Feb-14 13:39:23

Day 1 of not eating sweets/chocolate/biscuits/cake. I did this already at the beginning of January but slipped at the end of the month when I was down and a jar of Nutella got to me sad

I've had a banana for breakfast. For lunch I had a humus sandwich on brown bread with sliced pickles and cherry tomatoes.

For tea I shall either have a pear or a kiwi.

For dinner I am having fried eggs and chips grin Not the healthiest dinner but I need a boost after having no sugar all day!

karatekimmi Tue 04-Feb-14 19:13:09

Hi all,

So day four of February and I haven't had a biscuit at work, I refused all offers and justifications of cookies when with my Family at the weekend. I am feeling a bit headachey but not too bad yet! I am really pleased with how well I am doing so far, but it is early days! And the biscuits are so prolific!!

I am trying to look at labels and be more aware of sugar in anything I am eating, but there I really need to be more aware of the different guises that sugar takes - I know anything with -ose isn't good, but I cant figure out what would be sugar on my Hovis 50/50 bread.

What is wrong with seed oils? I have been looking at the David Gilespie site and I am a bit confused about how bad they are.

I hope everyone is doing well.

HearMyRoar Tue 04-Feb-14 19:38:23

kimmi, the book 'fat chance, the bitter truth about sugar' by Robert lustig has a good list of all the different things to look out for in ingredients lists. Its quite a big list!

I'm still going, also cutting down on potatoes now as they make me really bloated. We have had loads of cakes and things in the office and I do feel a had smug listening to everyone else justify their cake eating while I waltz past not even looking. It really is so much easy when its not even an option to have any. smile

I'm planning on an sos on Friday though as it is our first date anniversary (we were together for ages before we got married so this feels more like our anniversary then our marriage one), and dh has booked a rather nice restaurant. I have decided that I want to allow myself the option of having pudding if I want one. It feels rather exciting and daring grin

SomewhatSilly Tue 04-Feb-14 20:48:18

I'm having a bit of an SOS moment right now!

Friend has made an amazing 'sugar free' cake with almonds, cocoa, date paste. Oh yum.

HearMyRoar Tue 04-Feb-14 21:00:21

Recipe! grin

SomewhatSilly Tue 04-Feb-14 21:15:03
RhondaJean Tue 04-Feb-14 21:20:53

Ooh I have several sugar and flour free protein cake recipes which are really nice. I'm a bit worried that I am not eating enough calories at the moment because I have completely cut the sugar/processed food out, I do have a fair bit of weight to shift but I am averaging between 1100 and 1400 calories per day, with quite heavy weights based gym sessions three times a week currently, hoping to up it five in a couple of weeks.

I'm not specifically eating low fat, but my diet is a lot of chicken, fish, tuna, fruit and veg with some porridge, wholemeal pittas and brown rice for carbs so I suppose it is low fat too.

Any suggestions?

zestypears Tue 04-Feb-14 22:42:48

Evening all! Will take a look at that recipe later, sounds fantastic!

So, yesterday I gave in to an SOS moment and I felt annoyed with myself but actually I learned from it.

It was at work; I couldn't really refuse without seeming rude. Which would have been fine, but I THEN raided the biscuit tin and scoffed a ton of choc chip cookies blush

What was interesting though, I am following WW where you have 26 points a day plus approx 7 a day for treats. Without the choc chip cookies, I'd have only eaten 15 points for the entire day! (Those of you familiar with WW will now be able to understand how many cookies I had, oops blush ). I think this ties in exactly with what Rhonda is saying; that it's quite scary how much I was relying on processed sugar as a foodstuff and how once it's cut out, I'm not eating nearly enough.

Which brings me on to my lesson learned (finally, haha) - I need to eat more and I need to eat breakfast. I've always skipped breakfast but I don't think I can sustain that on this WOE. I truly believe if I hadn't been hungry I wouldn't have given in to the SOS situation. So, 2 boiled eggs for me weekdays and some nice hot porridge at the weekends!

Rhonda - good fats are satiating - make sure you have a good serving of one at each meal - whether it's mayo, avocado, cheese, yoghurt, butter. We're understanding now that low fat just means high sugar - they take the fat out but then add sugar and other rubbish to bring the taste back. So don't be afraid of full fat!

I have a feeling this will be essay length; sorry!! grin

Dosey Tue 04-Feb-14 22:43:43

SOS moment today. A colleague chucked at me a dark chocolate kit kit 70% coca. I soooo enjoyed it but didn't crave anything else and been very good since. Still feeling really good and clean inside !

rhonda can I suggest full fat yoghurt. Lidil do an amazing 1kg tub of Greek natural yoghurt for £1.50 and it's delicious.

Also almonds in porridge are very good too and will give you a calorie boost.

RhondaJean Tue 04-Feb-14 23:09:09

The problem is I'm not really hungry and I seem to be eating forever - a bowl of salad and one of fruit salad at lunch with s wholemeal pitta bread and some prawns comes in at under 400 calories but takes forever to et through.

I will add almonds in, I always have some on my desk for emergencies, Greek yoghurt is a great source of protein so as I up my weights and times a week I will add more of that too.

I honestly wouldn't thank you for a choc chip cookie ATM! 9 days in. But we are away for DHs birthday Sunday/ Monday so 3 meals out and some cocktails and wine, I wonder if next Tuesday it will feel like starting over again?

HearMyRoar Wed 05-Feb-14 12:57:07

By a wonderful coincidence once my online food order arrives this evening I will have all the ingredients to make that cake. Yay! Yummy sugar-free cake coming up grin

zesty I absolutely agree about the eating more to stop you gorging on the sugar stuff. Breakfast is essential. I also endorse aiming to eat about every 2 hours (quite a few of the blogs suggest this), even if its just a few nuts or something. If I don't then I end up crashing and any biscuits in the vicinity start shouting out to me in the most alluring fashion.

I have also learnt the lesson to always take loads of sugar free food with me where ever I go no matter what. I went to a conference a few weeks ago and didn't take much food as they promised lunch. Lunch turned out to be a ham and pickle sandwich on white bread, crisps and cake. Then got stuck on a delayed train all the way home starving. I was kicking myself for being such an idiot and now carry food with me at all times.

BerylsDailyKumquat Wed 05-Feb-14 14:35:19

I really want to join in with you all, but every day I seem to put it off. I start with a healthy breakfast, but then I'm out and about for hours and just grab a convenient sweet thing to keep me going!! I must try harder...I am getting better at actually making time for proper meals rather than just snacking though.

SomewhatSilly Wed 05-Feb-14 16:06:51

Argh, I'm finding it really tough right now. Had another stressful day and just want to cram my face with sugar!

Dosey Wed 05-Feb-14 16:32:47

somewhat don't do it it won't make your day any easier.

That said, I have just been to a funeral and the wake was cream tea, what can a girl do when faced daily with SOS. I had a cream scone and full fat coke blush. I am still proud to be home and not wanting to scoff every grain of sugar in the house.

Right tomorrow I will avoid all SOS situations!

RhondaJean Wed 05-Feb-14 17:09:58

WEll I have been on an all day training course which started with huge gooey chocolate cookies just baked and thn moved onto just baked huge empire biscuits and cocoa things with icing as well as bowl fills of sweets on the table and I didn't touch any.

I ate a banana instead <smug>

They actually smelled really sugary, it didn't appeal. I'm premenstrual as well so if I have managed 10 days now with no processed sugar I can do this forever if I want to!

SomewhatSilly Wed 05-Feb-14 20:37:57

Well done Rhonda! That is some willpower you have there.

I have eaten the last slice of sugar free cake and then polished off half a boursin with oat cakes, but I did not have the chocolate I was suddenly craving. It's so obviously psychological cravings I'm having, but they feel just as real as physiological ones, argh!

On a more exciting note, my new toy kitchen appliance arrived today, a nutribullet. I decided that I need to increase the green veg and good fats in my diet so it's perfect. Made a smoothie with kale, avocado, banana, pear, yogurt and coconut oil earlier and it was surprisingly tasty!

HearMyRoar Wed 05-Feb-14 21:17:57

Oh havens

HearMyRoar Wed 05-Feb-14 21:19:32

I seem to have posted rather early in a moment of ecstatic rapture. somewhat the cake is amazing, and was really easy to make. Even dh loved it! grin

SomewhatSilly Wed 05-Feb-14 21:31:23

I KNOW, it's amazing isn't it!

Loving, "Oh havens" as an exclamation of ecstasy. Sounds lovely and quaint grin.

HearMyRoar Thu 06-Feb-14 16:32:28

It was supposed to be 'heavens' but stupid autocorrect had other ideas hmm

Dosey Thu 06-Feb-14 18:08:46

Well despite locking my car keys and the dog in the car, waiting 45 minutes in the freezing cold for the recovery van. I have not touched a grain of sugar. I even had friends over coffee and opened a box of Christmas biscuits and never touched one!

Go me. Saying that having a big hole in my tooth makes avoiding sugar so much easier !

SomewhatSilly Thu 06-Feb-14 18:48:08

Well done Dosey!

SomewhatSilly Thu 06-Feb-14 21:07:56

Well, in the interest of science and piggishness I made some avocado choc mousse. It wasn't quite the same, but it definitely hit the spot.

karatekimmi Fri 07-Feb-14 06:57:05

One more day and I'll have been biscuit free for a week!! Do you all find it easier on week days or weekends? I eat better week days as I have to be organised, but we don't have crap in the house, so less temptations at the weekend.

RhondaJean Fri 07-Feb-14 20:12:54

I've just had one slice of DDs chocolate orange, feel a bit bad!

Still doing fine apart from that though.

I'm off out ŵith DH for his birthday at the weekend so will have Sunday/Monday off and then back on it Tuesday.

I don't find it difficult at all tbh, except for eating out or parties, at home or work or whatever it's fine just need to be a bit prepared about what to eat so there isn't the urge to grab something quick.

littlewhitebag Fri 07-Feb-14 20:35:06

I have been biscuit and chocolate free for 10 days. Yay me!

I have however been eating a slice of Soreen malt loaf each day. It is lower sugar but still not great.

Small steps. grin

SomewhatSilly Sat 08-Feb-14 09:52:19

Well done lwb.

I've noticed that as time passes, more "natural sugars" are creeping into my diet. And lo and behold, the weight loss is slowing...

HearMyRoar Sat 08-Feb-14 12:24:46

Well done everyone! grin

Went out for dinner last night and had what felt like a massive sugar binge. Lemon and honey monkfish followed by some of dh's ice cream and a little mint chocolate. It really felt like an outrageous amount of sugar, even though a couple of months ago I would have considered it pretty everyday. Its funny how perceptions of what is normal can change so quickly.

Reassuringly I don't now feel like going off on a massive sugar marathon. I really enjoyed it but feel pretty sugared out and happy to stop again. Its nice to know I can keep it for special occasions smile

BerylsDailyKumquat Sat 08-Feb-14 13:13:00

Right, I'm joining you all from Monday! Sugar free to start with, then hoping to move onto giving up wheat and processed food altogether, but that's too much all in one go. I'll be back after the weekend x

EddieReadersglasses Sat 08-Feb-14 15:01:36

I'm just popping in for a look! I've been trying to cut sugar down and eat less crappy food. Easy to get into a rut over Christmas when there is so much rubbish available.
So I've stopped having cereal at breakfast and am having full fat Greek yoghurt with fruit for breakfast. Either blueberries/grapes or sliced banana.
Lunch tends to be seeded brown bread sandwich with cheese and pickle / ham / tuna plus fruit eg clementine/ pear.
After school snack I've been making pancakes but Dcs keep asking for maple syrup/ golden syrup and I've been having a tiny bit too- not good I know!
Tea tends to be home made chilli/ stew/ stir fry etc. Only having pudding at weekends
Trying not to snack in evenings but sometimes having some kettle chips ( big bag over at least 3 nights)

So any suggestions? Subs for something to go with pancakes ( I'm not adding any sugar to batter btw)
Am I eating too much fruit or is that ok?
What are better fruits in terms of sugar - I'm not too worried re calories as not really trying to loose weight, just want to feel healthier and more energetic

EddieReadersglasses Sat 08-Feb-14 15:02:38

Ps doing an online shop tonight so looking for ideas!! grin

firefly78 Sat 08-Feb-14 20:08:32

Hi im on day three of sugar free. Have replaced sweetener in porridge with chopped apple and cinnamon. Its this time of night i find hard though, more cos having chocolate is a habit.

Dosey Sat 08-Feb-14 20:38:22

Hi there just checking I for yesterday and today. I went to a friends last night for wine and a chat. She knows my love of chocolate a bought me a bag a mini eggs. Not wanting to say no I ate about 10 and left the rest. I was very pleased. Today I had one if my mums homemade biscuits because they are so lovely. I must say my cravings for sugar have gone and when I do have some I can tell myself when to stop.

That said I do feel guilty for yesterday and today so I am determined to have a couple of sugar free days. I don't want it sneaking back into my daily diet.

firefly this time on a Saturday night is hard. I find cleaning my teeth and telling myself I have finished eating for the day helps.

karatekimmi Sat 08-Feb-14 21:49:21

I've been dying, and I mean dying to have a strawberry and lime kopper berg from the fridge, and I'm quite scared how strong the urge is!! I haven't succumbed and am in bed far too lazy to go back downstairs
I'm looking forward to weighing myself tomorrow as I'm feel my clothes are looser.

HearMyRoar Sun 09-Feb-14 12:51:38

firefly planning is the key I think. If you know there are times when you usually have chocolate or something (mine was Friday night) have a non-sugary treat in stock as a replacement. Make it something that still feels indulgent so you don't feel like you are denying yourself any fun and sit down and really enjoy it. Brie on ryvita, lightly salted crisps, and almonds got me through the first few Fridays. Now they don't bother me as much.

Dosey Sun 09-Feb-14 19:55:25

Yeah I have managed a no sugar day. Mil bought be a cream cake for pudding but I politely brought it home and its sitting in the fridge waiting for dp to come home from work.

Dds are staying at gps tonight. I spent the afternoon watching 3 men and a baby. I could hear the cram cake calling but I had full fat natural Greek yoghurt and grapes instead. It was still very yummy without the guilt trip

Dosey Mon 10-Feb-14 21:27:53

Is there anybody there??

Just a little to check in, managed another day without sugar or cravings.

JimmyCorkhill Tue 11-Feb-14 10:08:20

Snap - I watched 3 Men and a baby too. How bloody dated is that film? I remember going to the cinema to watch 3 Men and a Little Lady blush

Full fat Greek yog is my saviour, it's even nicer with some double cream poured in.

I've managed to stick to this for almost 3 weeks now but I haven't had many situations which have tested me SOS wise. That will be when I know if I can really do this or not.

Dosey Tue 11-Feb-14 12:44:13

I am Hoping that 3 men and a little lady is on this Sunday!

I bet after 3 weeks an SOS situation will be fine for you.

orangedog Tue 11-Feb-14 12:54:04

Hello
I've been sugar free since sept. am really happy with my weight loss. Fell off the wagon big style over Xmas though and since then haven't quite been as strict with myself and have had the odd thing but try not to as it just creates cravings.
Have been eating lots of pistachios, natural yogurt, fresh bread and soda bread etc wine intake as normal ! Have fancied more lager than usual as well ... Perhaps cos its not as sweet. Had a couple if squares of white choc last night but it was do sweet it was sickly.
Please ignore lack of punctuation...on my phone!

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orangedog Tue 11-Feb-14 14:46:18

I prefer peanut butter

SomewhatSilly Tue 11-Feb-14 17:07:02

I fell off the wagon big time yesterday and felt really awful for it sad. Good news is that I've been ok today.

I've decided to include some nakd bars and dark choc for a while and see if that helps. I have a tendency towards very black and white thinking which I think leads to big binges, so I'm trying to find some kind of happy medium.

orangedog Tue 11-Feb-14 17:26:37

Yes you need to find something you can eat to satisfy the craving.
Cocoa has no sugar in so hot milk with cocoa is fine. The green and blacks stuff is nice.

HearMyRoar Tue 11-Feb-14 19:03:41

Hello all. Still going here. Have just got a children's party invite for Saturday though so anticipating an sos situation there.

I live the way orange and cocoa Nakd bar. Dd also adores them.

HearMyRoar Tue 11-Feb-14 19:04:34

Ooooo...dome random words there courtesy of predictive text...

ProfessorDent Tue 11-Feb-14 21:46:47

Pret do 2 hard boiled eggs with spinach for about �1.50.

Also, try Zero Yoghurt from Sainsbury's or Tesco, with a �2 fruit tub of strawbs, grapes, blackburries from Tesco, topped with Pret's Naked Nuts for �1, made up of unsalted walnuts and other things. Okay, �4 in all but not bad, it really tastes good and beats the sugar rush.

procrastinatingagain Tue 11-Feb-14 22:07:22

Hi, can I join in? I don't think I can eat sugary food in a normal way, in fact I know I can't. I feel addicted, and I don't want to be any more. I'm going to stop eating sugar tomorrow and see how it goes. Hope it's ok if I post for support? It's really inspiring to read all your posts. Hope I can get to a point where I can refuse mini eggs too. At the moment I feel like I'm wasting my best years on sugar hmm

JimmyCorkhill Tue 11-Feb-14 22:16:49
Bornin1984 Tue 11-Feb-14 22:19:23

I'm type two diabetic and 28 weeks pregnant. My blood average is
Good. But I like
Naughty things
Too much

Dosey Tue 11-Feb-14 22:24:44

Welcome procrastinating. Feel free to post for help. It does get easier I promise.

No Sugar or cravings but not been presented with an SOS either. I think dp may have bought me chocolate for valentines day. I will share with dds if so. It will be hard though.

JimmyCorkhill Tue 11-Feb-14 22:26:19

Chocolate orange homemade Nakd bars

Bornin1984 you need new naughty things!

JimmyCorkhill Tue 11-Feb-14 22:27:24

That sounded weird! I meant new as in sugar free, like strawberries and cream blush

procrastinatingagain Tue 11-Feb-14 22:32:03

Thanks Dosey
I'm feeling optimistic, I think smile

Bornin1984 Tue 11-Feb-14 22:48:39

I have people watching me all the time watching what I eat!

SomewhatSilly Tue 11-Feb-14 23:36:56

Shit - she says the nakd bars have got a tablespoon of (natural) sugar in each one! Argh.

zestypears Wed 12-Feb-14 07:12:34

Hello, I'm still here lurking! RL has been a bit crazy this week but I'll try and post more later smile

HearMyRoar Wed 12-Feb-14 12:19:34

It depends what your defining sugar as in your giving up sugar pledge (or whatever). Nakd bars are basically just mushed up dried fruit and nuts. I try not to eat tons of dried fruit but I'm not giving them up so don't have a problem with sharing a bar with dd once in a while.

Dosey Wed 12-Feb-14 21:16:05

No sugar again. Feeling good and it's getting easier. Two months now with a few binges and a few SOS moments but its the best and longest I done this.

HearMyRoar Wed 12-Feb-14 21:25:19

Good job dosey.

I accidentally ordered a chai latte today when I didn't fancy a coffee. I just ordered without thinking that it had sugar in. I only managed half of it though as it tasted sickly sweet to me now I'm used to no sugar.

procrastinatingagain Thu 13-Feb-14 18:22:16

Hello everyone. I've done 2 days "sugar free" now. I haven't been too rigid, for example I've still been eating bread products (wholemeal), but haven't had any chocolate or yogurts with sugar in. I've felt fine actually, was thinking today that I feel more energetic. I also know I feel much better when I don't binge, and sugar is what I binge on. I'll probably be ok until my period is due, then I'll be craving sugar. I'm going to attempt to deal with this by eating sugar-free oatcake biscuits to keep my blood sugar stable.

HearMyRoar Sat 15-Feb-14 09:02:22

Oh dear, had a bad couple of days and accidently tripped over a cake shop. How are people doing on valentines?

SomewhatSilly Sat 15-Feb-14 13:58:52

I'm doing miserably badly and haven't had a sugar free day for nearly a week sad.

Dosey Sat 15-Feb-14 18:49:26

Glad it's not just me. I have fallen off the wagon big time.I have loads of valentines chocolates off dp and dd melted a huge bar of diary milk and made me chocolate hearts. I really didn't have the heart not to eat them! I have now scoffed the lot in two sittings! Just really to get them out of the way. I enjoyed them but now I am feeling horrid. And have terrible wind blush. My teeth feel manky too. i was at the dentist yeaterday and i need two fillings which i cant help thinking is a result of eating far too much sugar over the years. I am well and truly ready to start a fresh tomorrow.

Anybody else wants to get back on wagon with me.

HearMyRoar Sat 15-Feb-14 19:13:20

Oh, me! Me!

My mum had to go into hospital last week to have complicated things done to her lungs (they keep filling up with water on top of having cancer in multiple places), plus I had a really stressful week at work With the stupid weather and people being twats. I sort of figured it was a toss up between getting really drunk or eating cake for a day. As I haven't drunk alcohol for about 3 years I thought cake was the lesser of the two evils.

So cake shop by 9am and then kids birthday with loads more cake this afternoon. I now feel horrid. I am really bloated, feel sick and have a headache. Also clearly even more of emotional wreck due to sugar crash. I don't want to eat sugar any more, its just not really as fun as I remember confused

Dosey Sat 15-Feb-14 20:14:03

Hi roar, your week sounds horrendous, I hope your mum feels better soon. I think I would have done the same in your shoes. I hope what's left of your weekend is good. At least we have both recognised how sugar is making us feel. Keep us posted on your mum.

PinkPeanuts Sat 15-Feb-14 22:25:28

Another one that totally needs to get back on the wagon here, I've been so shit with this sad

The thing is, I'm so unbelievably unhappy with the way I look due to weight gain that it's utterly stupid to continue cramming my face with sugar, yet somehow I continue to do it sad

Dosey Sun 16-Feb-14 21:46:59

A much better day for me. Though I did have a slice of cheesecake after Sunday dinner. Dm bought it just for me. I counted this as an SOS situation. I never craved anymore sweets, chocolate or any other kind of sugar after it so I was pleased with that.

HearMyRoar Sun 16-Feb-14 21:48:21

Thanks dosey I'm feeling much better today and managed a sugar free day! Had a lovely morning out in the sunshine, I am so over the whole rain business. I just want some summer now.

pink it is hard. I find stopping the comfort eating cycle is the hardest bit. You comfort eat, then feel crap about yourself for comfort eating and then...guess what...go and bloody comfort eat some more. I don't really know what to suggest. I am trying to train myself to comfort eat other stuff rather then sugar. Not sure if this just replaces the problem with something else though confused

EnidB Sun 16-Feb-14 22:00:17

Oh I am so glad it isn't just me. I was sugar free until about 3 weeks ago - even through Christmas! But a rubbish work routine tipped me over the edge. New day tomorrow

Dosey Mon 17-Feb-14 22:23:31

Sugar free day today. Though I did get a craving and had some crisps I instead. Slightly defeats the object but it took the edge off and I was fine after them. Dd has a massive bag of tangtastic which has been sat winking at me all day. I haven't touched one. I would have scoffed the bag two months ago and then rummaged about for more.

HearMyRoar Tue 18-Feb-14 19:39:38

Gosh, I love tangtastics. Impressive restraint dosey!

I had a strepsil today as I have an awful sore throat but I figured it was allowed as medicinal. Not that it made a jot of difference so haven't had any more.

My colleague is pregnant and almost convinced me to buy a toasted tea cake as she currently adores them. I valiantly resisted the tea cake by not so valiantly buying a bacon roll instead. Oh well.

Dosey Tue 18-Feb-14 21:42:26

Hi there. We had a trip to the seaside and I had a donut. Anybody who can resist that smell just isn't human. I am sorry to let the side down but I really enjoyed it. I had a few sweets in the car too. Half term is very hard but I do feel good that my cravings have vanished I just had them because it was a seaside day. I will try harder tomorrow.

Well done hear and don't worry about the strepsil. Hope the buttie sorted the sore throat out.

HearMyRoar Wed 19-Feb-14 21:37:22

Umm.. Do you think everyone else is out scoffing chocolate dosey. I'm starting to think its just us....

SomewhatSilly Wed 19-Feb-14 22:47:07

I am sad

Fallen off the wagon and rolled under it.

Attempting to regroup, hope to be back soon.

Dosey Fri 21-Feb-14 18:44:46

Really bad week. I am going to try again tomorrow though we are eating out tomorrow and Sunday so puddings will be tempting. I ate some of the tangtastics and pulled a filling out. If that's not telling me something I don't know what is !

JimmyCorkhill Tue 25-Feb-14 09:03:31

Fallen off the wagon and rolled under it I am pulling you out grin

Are you all just cutting out sugar or are you replacing it with fat? I am, and I think that is what is making it easier for me. Strawberries and double cream is a delicious alternative to chocolate.

Dosey Tue 25-Feb-14 17:24:40

Hi there jimmy, I am replacing with full fat yes. I am back on the wagon half term just killed me going out for tea and lunches so many tempting puddings.

I am in the full fat yogurt now. Soooo yummy !

JimmyCorkhill Tue 25-Feb-14 19:45:54

Full fat Greek yog and cream is delicious. Well....anything and cream is pretty delicious to me really blush

HearMyRoar Tue 25-Feb-14 20:09:53

Just clinging onto the wagon by my fingernails.

I think you might be onto something with the fat. I think I am suddenly having problems because I have cut down my dairy intake, which was a lot of the fat i was eating. I hadn't eaten any dairy at all for well over a year because dd is intolerant and I was bf. Suddenly eating tons really was not agreeing with me so I have reduced it right back and do feel much better, except I am suddenly getting cake cravings.

Maybe I need a new source of fat. Any ideas?

JimmyCorkhill Wed 26-Feb-14 11:06:48

On the low carb bootcamp threads (I lurk grin) they say butter doesn't really count as dairy, less carbs I think, although don't quote me on that. So you could add butter to everything some of your food. I bought some Lurpak garlic butter and it is gorgeous on veg. I actually desired, yes, desired brussell sprouts the other day!

Fatty meat, bacon fried in butter! is delicious.

Avocadoes. Avocado chocolate mousse!

Nuts. Coconut milk/cream. Ghee (they sell this in Asda)

I am consuming loads of dairy and really need to try cutting it down to see if that makes any difference to my weightloss/psoriasis. So do as I say not as I do grin

HearMyRoar Thu 27-Feb-14 11:10:44

mmmm...they sounds like good suggestions Jimmy!

Well, I have had 2 people in the last 3 days comment that I have lost weight. Completely unprompted I might add. My scales are crap so can't say how much this is true but I have just measured myself and dropped about an inch from my waist in the last few weeks or so.

This has cheered my up immensely. smile

JimmyCorkhill Thu 27-Feb-14 15:09:08

That's great grin A good motivator too, I'm sure.

I've finally found our tape measure. Think it might help when the scales won't budge.

Runlikeareindeer Sun 02-Mar-14 21:25:45

I'm going to give up suagr for lent. I'm doing 5;2, but found myself really craving sugar and realised what a hold it has over me.

Apart from the obvious, like cakes, chocolate etc what else should I avoid? Bread?

JimmyCorkhill Sun 02-Mar-14 22:19:44

It's in everything. You will have to check all labels. Look for ingredients ending in 'ose' too.

I've been pretty shocked when I have found it on the ingredients list for ready made salads, pre cooked roast chicken and tinned sweetcorn for example.

If you allow yourself fat to compensate for the lack of sugar it is pretty bearable eg strawberries and cream.

I am surprised at how I haven't missed it though. Good luck smile

CorrieDale Mon 03-Mar-14 18:25:25

I'm also giving up sugar for lent. I can't say I'm looking forward to it much! I tried low carbing but I'm veggie and it is just too darned hard. I reckon going sugar free will be tough but is at least achievable! We eat mostly from scratch so it's things like puddings and sweet snacks i'll miss most. I work Friday mornings at a country market and buy a couple of puddings a week "for the children"! My plan for lent is to buy the ones that I don't like!

I generally find that during lent I replace whatever it is I've given up with something equally as nice tasting and bad for me! This year will be different!

Dosey Tue 04-Mar-14 21:50:33

Hi there I am jumping in board and giving up sugar for lent. I am looking forward to starting again. I also do 5:2 and understand the cravings. I was doing so well but the half term tested me and I failed! Well just getting rid of some smarties and away we go.

Dosey Wed 05-Mar-14 06:13:12

Day 1 here we go. I am determined to do this. I will report back later

Dosey Wed 05-Mar-14 21:36:50

First day done and dusted. I cleaned my teeth straight after tea just to put me off!

Snowdown Thu 06-Mar-14 07:53:21

Sugar free for lent - is it wrong that I have planned a box of luxurious chocolates?
I am finding sugary things have less and less flavour, standard bars of choc just taste of sugar...my beloved Tiffin from Costa no longer gives me joy....maybe my sugar free phases are finally causing my taste buds to change?

HoratiaDrelincourt Thu 06-Mar-14 10:18:43

I found sugar as an ingredient in shop-bought mayonnaise yesterday hmm which was my Day One.

Porridge with sultanas and banana for breakfast, pasta for lunch, fajitas for tea, snacking on fruit and cheese (together). The sugar cravings started in the afternoon and were incredibly strong. I chose to start during Lent to give me some additional motivation. Part of me absolutely hates that decision, but it does make the potential SOS easier.

Weight loss isn't my primary goal, but would be a very welcome effect!

HoratiaDrelincourt Thu 06-Mar-14 12:26:26

I've been looking forward all morning to having a bag of crisps with my lunch... only to discover that sugar is listed in the ingredients. Crisps ffs! Anyway after an internal struggle I have put them aside and am going to the corner shop to find a permitted brand.

Dosey Thu 06-Mar-14 22:11:03

Is hard to believe how much sugar is in savoury food. My aim is to stop binging on sweets, chocolates and sweets. Once I have just the slightest whiff of any, I am like a woman possessed, I just can't stop. So far so good on the second day. I did come up to my bed at 9pm to avoid the evening munchies.

Snowdown Fri 07-Mar-14 13:32:19

My new found religious fever has continued - sugar free lent is going well, 2nd day was harder but having committed to doing this till Easter Sunday, I will make it!

WholeNutt Fri 07-Mar-14 14:47:06

I'm missing something, what's an SOS? I'm attempting this but it's so hard whilst being away with work. However when I get home I will be trawling through this site.

http://www.iquitsugar.com/recipe/ hope the link works from iPad.

I have made the chocolate mousse with the avocado and it's really good!

Snowdown Fri 07-Mar-14 15:52:28

Experience has taught me not to substitute sugar with sweeteners, fake sweet foods, fruit, yoghurt, nuts or cheese because I just over eat on those instead. I'm trying to just eat my meals and forget about snacking, that's almost harder than giving up sugar.

CountessOfRule Fri 07-Mar-14 15:53:45

"social obligation sugar" - eg when someone has gone out of their way to bring a kind of cake they know you like. You have the SOS because avoiding it is too awkward or rude, but not other sugar that day (as opposed to writing off the whole meal/day/week).

A useful concept, so if you have to slip you don't feel you've given up entirely.

Snowdown Fri 07-Mar-14 15:55:06

Lent is a handy one to get you out of SOS, even though I'm not in the tiniest wee bit religious. wink

CountessOfRule Fri 07-Mar-14 15:56:30

So true! "I've given up sugar for Lent" is easy.

Especially in the light of the newspaper headlines over the last few days.

Snowdown Fri 07-Mar-14 16:00:44

Yeah, even my dmum will accept Lent as an excuse. We do have a v posh dinner coming up in a few weeks, it's a set menu so avoiding the sugar course is just not going to happen - I have swapped the traditional sugar fest of St Paddy's day for the posh pudding course....and it will be worth it! grin

CorrieDale Mon 10-Mar-14 07:49:32

It's been going ok! No sugar at all and no massive cravings yet. I suspect because this is sooo much easier than low carbing; my joy at being able to eat pasta overwhelms the longing for mayonnaise! But I have fallen into the substitutes trap - cheese oatcakes with extra cheese were particularly delicious and bloat causing.

So... A new week, a new resolve. Doing c25k with my friend after school drop off, bolstered by a breakfast of homemade soda bread, quorn ham and melon.

CountessOfRule Mon 10-Mar-14 07:54:41

It's easier than I thought - and already a doughnut/biscuit/Wispa looks less attractive.

But ... what I'm really missing is squash. I would normally drink 3-4 pints of high-juice squash a day. It's really hard to want to drink sufficient quantities of herbal tea, water and fresh juice instead.

Shimmyshimmy Mon 10-Mar-14 09:07:08

Had dominos at the weekend which I suspect contained some sugar....and I've eaten too many substitutes even though I have tried not to. Yes new week and new goal - no snacking, really no snacking!

Dosey Mon 10-Mar-14 17:57:25

Hi there, I am really letting the side down. I have been so naff. I did intend starting today but when I got to work there were loads of sweets about. My colleague planted a load on my desk and first I got the smell then I got the craving, I had a little taste and then came the binge.

I need to give my teeth a good clean, give myself a kick up the bum and start again as from now.

CorrieDale Mon 10-Mar-14 20:11:06

Tonight I will not snack.

And I don't have my fingers crossed either.

Shimmyshimmy Mon 10-Mar-14 21:13:47

Torture this evening. Ds made Argentinian biscuits with a dulce de leche filling for the dc's packed lunch - unfortunately I had to assist, it was tough....I'm glad I didn't give in, I'd probably have polished off half the batch. Bought Easter eggs for the dcs and they are safely put away in their rooms - they have more willpower than me. sad
No snacking this evening, having a cup of decaf tea and we'll watch an episode of Salamander before bed.

Dosey Tue 11-Mar-14 09:04:38

I am on a fast/no sugar day today and I am going to do this. I shall report back later !

Shimmyshimmy Wed 12-Mar-14 20:29:08

How'd it go Dosey? I'm not doing a great job at avoiding sugar in savoury food, I'm not sure I even want to go that far though, a dribble of BBQ sauce in my burger, a tsp of sugar in my brioche bun, shouldn't hurt too much.
So it's been over a week now, I've been tempted by the lovely biscuits the kids made but only when everyone else is eating them. I haven't craved sugar at all. Drinking loads of water and cups of tea!

Dosey Thu 13-Mar-14 06:28:36

Hi shimmy I am doing naff. I don't know why I am finding it so hard. I did really well before. Well today is another day and I will try again. I don't want to give up things like sauces just biscuits, sweets at first and take it from there. Sounds like you are doing just fine.

Shimmyshimmy Thu 13-Mar-14 07:07:39

Dosey I sugar free it quite a lot, problem for me is I can't get to grips with eating sugar moderately and I don't want to give up sugar forever, I'm planning the most luxurious box of chocs for Easter I can find and then I'll jump back on the wagon the following Tuesday. I used to just give up chocolate and that helped a bit and allowed me some treats. The first few days are the hard bit after that it's relatively easy.
Have you tried giving up before?

CorrieDale Thu 13-Mar-14 07:53:53

Still having substitution issues! Maybe I should have given up snacking for Lent!

Shimmyshimmy Thu 13-Mar-14 14:10:05

Snacking is much harder to give up!

JokersGiggle Mon 17-Mar-14 09:50:22

Has anyone else found that after Weeks without sugar eating chocolate makes you shake? I had a crunchy bar (just 1) and about 20mins later I started to shake! Lasted about half an hour followed by feeling ill, headache and being really grumpy.
Is that normal? I've been without sugar since September and that was my first bit of proper sugar that I've had.

CorrieDale Tue 18-Mar-14 18:27:23

Aargh! 2 weeks in and the cravings have hit! It's been a fairly stressful couple of days and I could really sink some sweets. Settling for homemade soda bread with raisins.

CountessOfRule Tue 18-Mar-14 18:41:50

Half a stone off in two weeks. That's helped with the motivation today!

Swapping sugar with fat goes against everything I ever "knew" about weight control.

JimmyCorkhill Tue 18-Mar-14 20:06:33

CountessOfRule I know how you feel. It goes against EVERYTHING we were ever told. Congratulations on your weight loss smile

I've swapped sugar for fat for 8 weeks now and I'm still losing weight but no longer feel any cravings for the sweet stuff. I'm gobsmacked as I have always, always been 'hungry'.

I'm not following any particular diet, I've just cut out all sugar and wheat. I'm actually eating loads of veg which is unheard of for me plus cooking meals from scratch. I'm still drinking lots of red wine.

It sounds wrong and also a chore but for the first time in my life I don't feel controlled by food.

Escape the Diet Trap by John Briffa explains the science behind it all. I won't go back to eating sugar and wheat. I don't miss it at all.

amouseinawindmill Tue 18-Mar-14 21:09:31

Hi, can I join in? I read the Sugar Poison diet book at the weekend and am now on Day 3 of no added sugar (so fruit is still on, except dried,but the rest has been banned).
Doing fine so far in beating cravings but today I feel tired, wooly-headed and generally under the weather. I have also had 2 nighta of crazy dreams: not too unusual for me as I am prone to sleepwalking etc but these have been really vivid.

A question about yoghurt if you don't mind. One of my old favourire breakfasts was yoghurt on Jordans museli. What can I have in place of the museli which will bulk out the yoghurt but is not fruit?

CountessOfRule Tue 18-Mar-14 21:35:13

Roast some nuts and oats? DIY muesli but without the sugar. Nuts would up the fat content too, for satiety.

JimmyCorkhill Wed 19-Mar-14 15:48:14

They talk about flaxseed on yogurt in the low carb bootcamp threads I don't even know what it is!

amouseinawindmill Wed 19-Mar-14 22:03:04

thanks; I used plain oats, fresh berriesand naturak yoghurt today. It was ok, I will grow to like it!

Nearly gave in at the petrol station today, queuing next to the chocolate. But managed to stop myself! I am eating nuts and cheese like anything though so I don't expect to be losing much weight at the moment! blush

amouseinawindmill Wed 19-Mar-14 22:05:32

PS: Jimmy you are not alone in not knowing what flaxseed is. Suspect I don't spend enough time in a shop more exotic than Morrisons....

CountessOfRule Wed 19-Mar-14 22:24:00

mouse I'm eating tons of cheese and lost half a stone in a fortnight.

I'm starting the day with a decent helping of porridge.

Shimmyshimmy Wed 19-Mar-14 22:34:44

Nearly caved today, while I helped dd make chocolate filling for Bourbon biscuits we made yesterday. Was really glad I didn't even try a tiny bit.

chinhealer Thu 20-Mar-14 01:37:43

Just finished my first 24-hour period without sugar. (Although I did have one medium pear, one small kiwi fruit and two strawberries - by my reckoning, that amounts to no more than 13g of fructose.)

I understand that it is best to try and limit daily fructose intake (even in the form of fruit) to 25g.

I bought The Sweet Poison Quit Plan yesterday and have nearly finished reading it today. Most of it sounds sensible and it has definitely convinced me that sugar is my enemy.

My food intake overall today was very modest indeed. Especially as it was an active day of work with a heavy (weights) gym session tacked on to the end!

Just wondering if there are any other vegetarians on here who have tried giving up sugar and their experiences in the medium-long term?

Shimmyshimmy Thu 20-Mar-14 06:25:06

We'll done chin first week is the hardest for cravings. I still struggle with family gatherings and all the general feasting that goes on, I cook a lot, dcs have more of a grip of their sugar intake than I have and shamefully they know it. I used to be veggie but gave up after 25 years blush

chinhealer Thu 20-Mar-14 12:40:04

Thanks Shimmyshimmy (can I call you Shimmy?!) At the moment, I'm feeling no kind of craving at all. (Which is surprising considering the industrial quantities of, for instance, Maltesers (and any and all other chocolates) and jam and honey and milkshakes etc I've put away in the past!) In fact, I'm feeling a quiet rage against sugar and the ridiculous hold it has had over me for all my life!

I bought a ready-made potato salad, pesto-pasta salad and mini cheese and onion pasties from the Coop today for my family. I later checked the labels - there was sugar in each one! I'm so disgusted by that! (I don't put sugar in any of those when I've home-made them in the past.)

The labels of flavoured/coated peanuts (which I've also eaten plenty of recently) reveal sugar, some of the Quorn products in our freezer contain sugar, so many condiments contain sugar... I've had it with the lot of them! If I see sugar (or any of its pseudonyms, or any sweeteners) mentioned on a label, I'm steering well clear.

Rather than seeing this as restriction, I'm seeing these attempts at force-feeding me sugar as a personal attack/invasion! And I refuse to be poisoned in this way!

I'm already feeling much, much better. I'm eating (almost exclusively) unprocessed, homemade food and am totally satisfied with it.

Yes, I think this anger/moral outrage against the sugar-peddlers will sustain me well!

chinhealer Thu 20-Mar-14 12:46:20

@Shimmy - I see you are watching Salamander. How does it compare to other European series? We've got it recorded, but weren't sure whether or not to delete it since our newfound adoration of Modern Family is taking up a huge amount of space in our planner!

CountessOfRule Thu 20-Mar-14 12:58:37

yy to channeling one's outrage.

And I'm guessing the sugar in potato salad was in the mayonnaise. I was absolutely appalled to find it there.

What I'm missing most now that I've got over missing squash ... are salt & vinegar crisps. Oh lovely crisps sad

chinhealer Thu 20-Mar-14 14:46:27

@CountessOfRule - heehee... I also bought Walkers Salt and Vinegar crisps this morning... again, not for me. But if they've got sugar in 'em, I'll:

a. Fume and never eat them again

and

b. Fume and never forgive Gary Linekar again.

Shimmyshimmy Thu 20-Mar-14 16:00:25

Salamander had me hooked from the second episode - there was too much metal cutting in the first, so I stubbornly MN'd the whole way through it. Ending was annoying but the journey was a good one, recommended! Modern family is fantastic - so funny, not surprised you're addicted.

chinhealer Fri 21-Mar-14 09:32:46

Ending was annoying but the journey was a good one

That sounds a lot like the latest Line of Duty series, which was the best and most compelling TV we'd seen in ages... until the final episode went and imploded and got tangled up in annoying partial-resolutions and improbabilities!

chinhealer Fri 21-Mar-14 09:35:21

More unexpected products with sugar in them... practically all the mainstream spice blends available in supermarkets! It's truly astonishing how much sugar will slip under our radar unless we're very vigilant indeed!

amouseinawindmill Fri 21-Mar-14 22:27:41

I am super-motivated today, having had a quick look on the scales as I am 5 days in to the no-added-sugar way of eating. It is amazing to be losing weight (mostly from my stomach!) whilst eating cheese and butter!

icepole Fri 21-Mar-14 23:29:08

Can I join? Am a couple of weeks in now with one minor deviation for a family meal last week when I had pudding.

I feel so, so much better. Bit disappointed not to have lost any weight though. I have given up all sweets etc, pasta, bread, rice and fruit. I am still eating carrots, sweet potato and parsnips and peanut butter (natural stuff) I am still craving chocolate at the end if the day, after tea.

chinhealer Fri 21-Mar-14 23:42:14

@amouse - brilliant! Your motivation gives me motivation too!

chinhealer Fri 21-Mar-14 23:46:43

@icepole - Great to hear of your progress! I think the feeling "so, so much better" bit is not to be sniffed-at. It's probably a sign that you are in a much healthier state than you were previously.

As for the weight; well, how much do you feel you need to lose? How about factors such as portion size, exercise and sleep?

CountessOfRule Sat 22-Mar-14 06:40:50

I just had a really vivid dream about eating a cream cake slathered in jam blush

Porridge, anyone? wink

icepole Sat 22-Mar-14 08:38:47

Not much to loose really, half a stone. In the past I kept my weight off with intense exercise but I have been sick with post viral fatigue and can't do it anymore. I do some yoga and walking at the moment when I can.

Yesterday I ate two scrambled eggs with veggies for breakfast, a tuna salad for lunch, some hummus and cucumber for snack, an avocado and tomato for a later snack. For tea I had stuffed peppers made with veggie mince and mixed with a bit of feta cheese and cottage cheese. I drink green tea or peppermint tea. I did have two spoons of peanut butter which was not part of the plan!

Jaynebxl Sat 22-Mar-14 08:44:47

I think I need to do this. Can someone point me in the direction of something I should read to summarise why and give me the push I need?

Shimmyshimmy Sun 23-Mar-14 09:18:47

I have sinned! sad Will start again tomorrow.

icepole Tue 25-Mar-14 14:17:16

Cravings seem to worse three weeks in, not better. And no weight lost at all. Feeling demotivated!

chinhealer Tue 25-Mar-14 14:30:19

@Jaynebxl - The Sweet Poison Quit Plan by David Gillespie got me started.

www.amazon.co.uk/The-Sweet-Poison-Quit-Plan/dp/0718179048/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395757764&sr=8-1&keywords=sweet+poison+quit+plan

And Robert Lustig's lecture Sugar: The Bitter Truth reinforced things for me.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

chinhealer Tue 25-Mar-14 14:58:29

@icepole - I have also developed a fondness for peanut butter. But it is the unadulterated, organic variety rather than the mass-market, added sugar variety. Not being judgemental at all. I've just decided to stay away from anything with sugar or fructose or any of their pseudonyms in. (Apart from two or three pieces of fruit per day.) But I'm allowing through anything that has low-moderate levels of glucose/dextrose/glucose syrup/lactose/maltose/maltodextrin/maltodextrose. But, y'know, the vast majority of what I'm eating now is non-processed and freshly made.
I think I'm too early in to notice any weight change. But after a week of (almost) no sugar, I'm feeling much, much better (and lighter), I'm feeling fantastic digestively, I'm feeling far less sluggish and full of energy and I'm feeling like I would be a fool to ever return to my old ways of eating!

I'm very sorry to hear of your demotivation. And I can't explain why things are as they are with you. Perhaps your post-viral fatigue has something to do with it? Is it worth talking to your doctor about? But if you're only three weeks in, perhaps you need to give it some more time? I understand that, for some people, the cold turkey phase is quite troublesome and can last for a month and more. Oh, and I can't see any bread or pasta or rice in your diet on Friday. Does this mean that you are avoiding those too? I'm still eating them daily. (Not all three daily and not all day, but they are part of my meals.) I have a feeling that if I tried to eliminate them too, I'd feel terrible. Gillespie doesn't have a problem with them, by the way. Nor does Lustig, who cites the Italian and Japanese examples of societies whose cuisines are very starchy- carb-based who, nevertheless, tend to live to ripe old ages.

I was a sugarholic until a week ago. But I can honestly say that I have not, even for a second, craved a chocolate or cake or honey or dried fruit since then - all staples of my pre-sugar-free diet. I am just so, totally satisfied with what I am eating that the poisons I used to love so much are actually quite repulsive to me now!

icepole Tue 25-Mar-14 18:17:20

Thanks for your reply. I do eat pure peanut butter, no crap in it. I have cut out pasta, bread, potato but still eating carrots and sweet potato. I do feel much better and won't go back to what I was eating. The two things I am missing are oatcakes and chocolate. I used to snack on oatcakes and peanut butter and always had a bit of chocolate after tea. I might just get some dark chocolate and have a bit, my only concern is it will tip me over the edge!

chinhealer Tue 25-Mar-14 22:56:54

@icepole - ummm... well, you know yourself best. Do you feel you might be like an alcoholic who really should resist having that one little drink? I do believe that sugar addiction is very real for many (possibly most) people.

Gillespie recommends having an avoidance strategy for each of the sugar addict behaviours/habits you might have. Before he went sugar-free, he used to eat a few pieces of chocolate in front of the TV each night. But when he went cold turkey, he decided that he would eat nuts instead of chocolates during his nightly TV snack time. Maybe that - or a similar avoidance strategy - would work for you?

icepole Wed 26-Mar-14 07:02:49

I think my worry is that if I allow myself a little bit of dark chocolate then it will be easier to break other rules. I don't really miss the other foods though.

chinhealer Wed 26-Mar-14 09:29:33

@icepole - then it's probably best if you see that bit of dark chocolate as poison and about as appetizing as arsenic! If I were to crave anything (which I'm not at the moment) it would be Maltesers! But instead of light, moreish balls of fluffy-crunchy delight, I now see them as seductive, repugnant killing machines!

amouseinawindmill Thu 27-Mar-14 16:18:45

In the interests of science wink I broke my sugar abstinence today (day 11) and ate a chocolate muffin in Costa.
It was disgusting! Something seriously must have changed in my tastebuds...

CountessOfRule Thu 27-Mar-14 17:15:30

That's good news, mouse! Thanks for taking one for the team wink

I'm planning a few squares of very dark chocolate on Sunday to celebrate the MD feast. I thought nothing too sweet.

CraftyBuddhist Fri 28-Mar-14 07:32:59

Hi there.

Would it be ok to join? I've been sugar free for jut over four weeks now. I think I might end up becoming sugar free bore in rl so can I join you all in this to chat and keep motivated?

I went cold turkey afte watching lustig's lecture. It totally resonate with me. I know that since the birth of my first child I used bf a a get out of free eat chocolate and cake card. And as a result I had not lost the 'tummy'. I also ignorantly used to drink juices and eat dried fruit.

Four weeks in I have lost a massive amount of fat around the middle. And a stone in weight. Yet I've been satisfied by the food I've eaten. I'm not hungry and can recognise true hunger for the first time in a long time. No sugar lows.

I did have the withdrawal from hell for a week or two. But now I can see a future way if eating which will be sustainable.

Good luck to all if you embarking in sugar free. I think it's such a different path to a diet. I just need to avoid evangelicising about it.

icepole Fri 28-Mar-14 08:12:48

Have to confess to having a couple of squares the other day of dark chocolate after tea, I don't think I could eat milk chocolate now actually.

I am not losing any weight which is kind if frustrating. But maybe I won't until I can get back to exercise, I am not in the overweight category, I just fancy being my pre pregnancy weight again which is half a stone lighter than I am now. It's not going anywhere though.

amouseinawindmill Fri 28-Mar-14 18:32:01

Crafty I know what you mean about the "tummy". I am in a pair of trousers a size smaller now, though the weight loss hasn't been too dramatic. I think my middle is definitely less prominent now.

Icepole take heart from all the benefits you are getting other than the weight thing.

I have got some serious temptation ahead of me in the form of social events this weekend but hopefully I will stay strong and avoid the cakes.

chinhealer Sat 29-Mar-14 00:26:23

Hi Crafty - heehee... I fully understand the urge to convert/bore people in RL. And I am enthused by your experience so far. My mindset has changed to something very similar to yours in a very short time. (I'm 1.5 weeks in, but my attitude to sugar changed literally overnight.)

I've had one Chinese meal (at a restaurant) with company last weekend, but was able to eat (pretty much) sugar-free without any kind of fuss. Skipping dessert while everyone else tucked in was no big deal.

But I can foresee many social functions/visits to friends houses that will be more problematic and which will involve more awkwardness - especially if the hosts have home-cooked the food which I will want to refuse!

But perhaps, by the time they come around, I will be so fixated in my new way of eating that even if I have to sample a little sugared food out of politeness, I will be able to easily adjust my intake for the rest of the day/week accordingly. Desserts are usually easy to refuse. It is sugar in savoury food which is much harder to.

luluforgetmenot Sat 29-Mar-14 08:39:44

Hi everyone,

Would I be ok to join? Totally addicted to sugar lol! I don't know what has sugar and what doesn't so is there anything online that I can check that worked for any of you? Like a list or something?
TIA.

JimmyCorkhill Sat 29-Mar-14 09:02:41
CountessOfRule Sun 30-Mar-14 19:29:06

I've had a Mothering Sunday blow-out.

Chocolate fudge brownie ice cream sundae. M&Ms and cookies on it, squirty cream, chocolate syrup, etc.

It was ... meh. To be honest, I only finished it because I wanted to be sure it wouldn't improve.

On the other hand, the drink I had (lime and lemonade) was utterly delicious. I'd been finding drinks more tricky than food so I shouldn't be surprised.

Back on tomorrow. Today actually helped! I can stop missing ice cream and chocolate.

RainbowDashMustDie Mon 31-Mar-14 13:21:33

I'm on day 2 and boy I am grumpy! Poor kids can't do anything right today sad Will it pass? Can't say I'm hungry at all though which is a bonus. Getting a headache but nothing too bad.

Anyone got any websites that have food lists on them? Is dried fruit a no go?

icepole Tue 01-Apr-14 16:42:08

I have put weight on and I feel awful today. Really didn't want to start counting calories but looks like the only way I can lose weight is by being hungry and counting everything, so depressing. I won't start eating pasta or bread again but I will have the odd bit of dark chocolate because it is just miserable without it and I am not seeing a result anyway. I have no idea how people cope on 1200 calories a day, I am dreading it.

RainbowDashMustDie Tue 01-Apr-14 17:32:05

Aww Ice sorry you've not had a loss, how long have you been sugar free?

I'm not going to weigh myself at all and just go off my clothes and how I feel. Day 3 and I feel like death but I'm hoping it improves!

icepole Tue 01-Apr-14 18:23:34

On week four. I do feel better so I am not going back to the way I ate before - lots of pasta etc but I will have the odd bit of dark chocolate and I am going to eat oatcakes again. I think I may have a bug actually which is why I feel so ill today.

RainbowDashMustDie Tue 01-Apr-14 19:10:44

Feel better soon thanks

Can I join? Have started going without sugar since first day of lent but am finding it still really hard. And I am eating so much more: nuts, bread, crisps, etc. it's awful.

JimmyCorkhill Tue 08-Apr-14 11:18:53

Hi, hope everyone is well and staying on the wagon grin

I have been sugar free (90%) for about 12 weeks now. Had an SOS yesterday but was quite shocked to find it tasted no different to before (slice of cake).

I was expecting my head to blow off from the sweetness and for me to gag and say "OMG that is disgusting, my taste buds are completely over sugar." But no, it tasted just as it did before confused

On the plus side I didn't feel the need to eat any more crap which is new for me!

Happymum1985 Sat 12-Apr-14 21:15:45

Hi all, REALLY happy to have found this thread!! During my pregnancy I developed a really sweet tooth. Started having 2 (generous) sugars in my tea and coffee, plenty of Starbucks frapaccinos, jam/ honey/ choc spread, and got hooked on cake/ chocolate/ sweets.. and of course tried to counteract this with low fat yoghurts/ skimmed milk/ light cheese etc.

About a month ago, I decided enough was enough and that I wanted to shift my remaining pregnancy weight (1 stone) so thought I would do this by cutting out all processed sugar and gluten, and replacing fat free dairy with full fat alternatives.

5 weeks on, I am absolutely loving my new diet. My appetite has reduced big time, I snack far less, my skin is better, and I can taste food properly again so no longer feel the need to drown all my meals in sauces! I have lost 10lbs so far, and this hasnt involved feeling hungry or denying myself anything that is sugar and gluten free. Anyone considering it, I really can't sell it enough. There have been times when I have nearly weakened- usually during a night in watching tv- but having full fat greek yoghurt with banana and a handful of gluten free oats usually stops this.

Was only planning to do this for a month, but now I dont want to give it up!!

CountessOfRule Sat 12-Apr-14 21:45:04

Still going here - a stone lost in five weeks. I feel like I'm eating loads, and I'm tempted only rarely.

I struggle with drinks as I previously drank a lot of squash, but fizzy water (18p for 2L in Morrison's grin ) is helping. I relax the rules a bit on Sundays, but rarely indulge. Cakes, puddings and sweets just aren't as appealing any more.

I survived DC2's birthday party this week - nearly mindlessly stuck my hand in a bowl of chocolate fingers and party rings, but realised just in time, and with that came the understanding that so much before was mindless eating rather than hunger.

DB has brought round a very treacley ginger cake today though. Hard to resist and it's interesting that I'm now more tempted by the less sweet sweets (liquorice, ginger, dark chocolate) than the pure sugar hit of eg Dairy Milk, Haribo, lemon drizzle cake.

RainbowDashMustDie Sun 13-Apr-14 19:01:17

A stone in 5 weeks is really impressive! I'm just over 2 weeks in and still enjoying it. I've found that I'm a lot less hungry than usual and my energy levels are slightly up. I'm not going to bother weighing myself as it's more about how I feel.

I've been having some really intense dreams, anyone else found this? Is anyone limiting fruit? I've had 4 portions of fruit today and I'm guessing that's too many.

RuthlessBaggage Sun 13-Apr-14 19:45:21

I don't restrict fruit except dried - half a portion a day on porridge.

Changing up to full fat milk has helped too.

JimmyCorkhill Mon 14-Apr-14 08:47:59

I second the full fat. If you're satisfied with fat you won't need the sugar. I haven't eaten any fruit for about 12 weeks now shock but I have eaten more veg than I ever have before (even when I was a vegetarian!)

I had the intense dreams. I was initially really anxious too but that's worn off thankfully.

RainbowDashMustDie Mon 14-Apr-14 22:28:14

Yeah I agree the fat is really satisfying. I've even had the odd coffee with cream grin I think I'm going to try for 2 portions of fruit a day this week and then down to 1 the following.

JimmyCorkhill Mon 14-Apr-14 23:00:14

I only stopped the fruit as I wanted to rid myself of all sweet tasting things to start with. I don't plan on cutting it out for good but I am very surprised that I don't actually feel like eating it (as I ate tons before I cut out sugar). I have replaced it with veg though (another surprise as I barely ate any when I was a vegetarian!). However, veg can be delicious when it is roasted in oil or smothered in garlic butter, I love fat!

purpleprincess Thu 17-Apr-14 22:20:00

Just wanted to say hi and that I'm going to join you. Have made a few half hearted attempts to go sugar free but given up quite easily. I have good excuse in that I've been suffering from thrush on and off for quite a while but kept thinking that it is too difficult.....I have made changes to my diet inc full fat Greek yoghurt instead of fruity but need I wean myself off adding honey etc. also healthy peanut butter etc but need to watch other hidden sugar as well as the obvious which I've not done recently....it's glad to see some sense on here as it is so easy to look up stuff on the interweb that scare the bejesus out of you. Also glad to see that you can still drink some wine on here although when I've done that I seem to crave chocolate more cake.

I've got some of those books on order from library so will see how I get on.

Trouble is it was my birthday on Monday and I was given one of those big slabs of hotel chocolat stuff so I've had to hide it.....

purpleprincess Sun 20-Apr-14 11:51:30

Bumping this. Perhaps there is another more current thread? Please can someone let me know and post link?

thanks. Happy easter tbusmile

JimmyCorkhill Sun 20-Apr-14 19:29:24

Did everyone survive Easter?!!

Hello purpleprincess. Hope you are doing okay and haven't been sabotaged by the birthday chocolate.

I've been making meals with 'easy garlic' and 'easy ginger', they come in a jar. They've got bloody sugar in them, gah! Why does garlic need sugar? That'll teach me to be lazy.

RuthlessBaggage Sun 20-Apr-14 20:05:07

Well, today I broke my fast (had given up for Lent) with a couple of things I thought I was missing, and some Easter Feast things.

Conclusions:

1. Squash doesn't taste of anything but sugar. Yawn. Not bothered.

2. Chocolate is just fat and sugar and doesn't taste of anything. I felt really very sick after really not very much.

3. Cheesecake is FIT. And surprisingly sweet compared with my memory.

I'm back to pre-baby weight (pre-DC3 that is) and have converted DH. He joins me tomorrow.

From now on I'm going to be strict during the week and a bit more lax at weekends - not bingeing, but not worrying about labels, eg lazy garlic as pp, or shop-bought mayonnaise, or salt and vinegar crisps.

If I get back to pre-DC2 weight (another 10lb ish) or pre-DC1 (yet another 10lb) I'll look at having more sugar on more occasions, ie not just SOS.

But it's good to have had as much as I wanted today, to learn that my palate has changed and sugar is a rubbish reward. Fruit is quite sweet and tasty enough, especially with some cheese. Yum.

purpleprincess Sun 20-Apr-14 20:27:26

Thanks jimmy corkhill. I have managed to avoid birthday chocolate so far but have cheesecake today and prosecco (well it is Easter) so could blame that on SOS sugar. DH went and bought some reduced hot cross buns and has Houston had one toasted which I'm trying to resist.....aargh.

purpleprincess Sun 20-Apr-14 20:28:16

Sorry Houston? Should be 'just' had one toasted. Whoops

purpleprincess Thu 24-Apr-14 19:53:31

Hi ladies any tips for sweet tasting stuff I can have of an evening. I often crave something sweet after a meal or just want something later in the evening with my brew and of course off the biscuits now. sad

Will probably have few strawberries and blueberries later which will be boring lovely (as have had my Greek yoghurt and banana for the day) but need few more dessert type ideas

TIA

JimmyCorkhill Thu 24-Apr-14 20:14:10

If you avoid any sweet tasting foods you actually lose the cravings for it. You could have nuts instead, they seem quite decadent and you don't eat them quickly. Or maybe pour some double cream over the berries to make them more satisfying.

CountessOfRule Thu 24-Apr-14 20:17:26

If I get nibbly in the evening I have apple and cheese - the salty cheese makes the apple taste even sweeter.

But yes, as your palate changes you won't care.

purpleprincess Thu 24-Apr-14 20:34:41

Ok maybe I didn't mean sweet so much as just something else.... I usually eat lots of almonds during the day esp at work so probably need to branch out a bit. Cheese is good idea but prob not Apple later in the evening.

Not big nut fan unless covered with salt/honey roasted! Perhaps will try pecans as quite like them.

Thanks

JimmyCorkhill Thu 24-Apr-14 23:16:43

I have salted pistachios as a treat. Plus taking the shells off makes the treat last longer.

Shatteredmamma1 Fri 25-Apr-14 20:40:35

Ladies I'd like to do this. Do I have to give up bread? And presumably dried fruit? <silly newbie question>. Presumably more fat is good???

CountessOfRule Fri 25-Apr-14 20:46:31

Hi and welcome shattered !

Bread you have to read the label - I think Best of Both and 50/50 are ok but standard sliced white or homemade aren't. If you're no-sugaring rather than low-carbing you can keep bread.

I keep dried fruit but I know others have cut it out. I cut out all refined/manufactured sugars but kept all naturally-occurring sugars.

Good luck! The first few days are the worst ... "what can I eeeeeeeeat" - and drinks are tricky and boring particularly when you go out. But once you work out your swaps it's easy, and gives you a real energy lift.

Shatteredmamma1 Sat 26-Apr-14 06:46:49

Thanks countess that's helpful smile here I go!!!

purpleprincess Sun 27-Apr-14 11:57:38

Just quick question ladies....has anyone given up sugar to get rid of persistent thrush? Is if so did it work and how long did it take?

Thanks

HearMyRoar Sun 27-Apr-14 13:53:21

Hello....<sneaks sheepishly back onto thread>. Haven't been on for ages as I completely feel of the wagon and was left a crushed and broken heap in its wake due to house buying and moving trauma. I feel crap though after eating loads of sugar stuff and really want to stop again. So here I am!

purple have you tried giving up dairy? I have realised that I get thrush whenever I start eating too much dairy. Stop the dairy and the thrush goes. I have no idea of this is a common connection... it might just be me...

I am now off to make loads of sugar free cake to get me through the withdrawals. grin

FatalCabbage Sun 27-Apr-14 14:03:45

Sugar free cake, you say? Do share good recipes!

Shatteredmamma1 Sun 27-Apr-14 14:27:03

Ladies is weetabix off limits? And what about fresh soup? Do I have to start making everything myself?! smile thanks

HearMyRoar Sun 27-Apr-14 20:14:48

This is the best cake recipe I know of. Someone linked to it on the original sugar free thread. It is amazing! Of course if you going hardcore and giving up dried fruit it's out, but if your just dropping added sugar and artificial sweetener it's ace. www.spoonfulofsugarfree.com/2013/07/15/flourless-chocolate-cake-made-with-almonds/

It is easier going sugar free if you cook from scratch but if you watch labels really carefully there are some surprising things you can eat (fishfingers! Yay!). Most pasta sauces have sugar but if you hunt the shelves I have found sugar free pasta sauce in the past. You have to be really careful of stuff like cooked meat. Even cooked chicken often contains sugar and it can be pretty tricky finding ham with no added sugar.

For breakfast you could try sugar free muesli. I generally go with Dorset cereals (though check as some have added sugar with the dried fruit) but I noticed aldi do one so might give that a go when I run out next. Or I tend to go for toast and sugar free peanut butter or marmite if I need something quick. I think shredded wheat is sugar free but as it's like eating stale hay I avoid that one. grin

JimmyCorkhill Mon 28-Apr-14 10:15:13

Weetabix have sugar - sorry sad

My favourite breakfast is full fat Greek yogurt. I add cream to it but DH has berries (we get the bags of frozen fruit).

ALittleFaith Sat 10-May-14 22:13:51

Hello! Is anyone around? I'm keen to do this. I have realised I am a sugar addict. I've been doing Paul McKenna but he says Eat what you want but I need to break the sugar addiction. Where do I start?! I eat a gluten free diet which I guess makes things more complicated in some ways. I'm guessing I need to get natural yoghurt in for breakfast!

FatalCabbage Sat 10-May-14 22:33:50

Can you do gluten-free oats? Porridge with a little fruit and made with whole milk is a good start to the day.

I imagine that if you're g-free you already avoid a lot of the worst sugar pitfalls already (cake, biscuits, etc) so what's your poison?

ALittleFaith Sun 11-May-14 08:28:32

Morning! Yes I can do GF porridge oats (although I need to go shopping for them).

Actually it's the GF equivalents of sugary junk that's my main poison. GF cookies in particular. They often add extra sugar to these things to improve the taste! Also fizzy drinks and Cadburys chocolate eclairs can scarf down a packet in one go

I meant to ask about milk. I've had skimmed for years but is it right there's extra sugar in that? I have a DD who is one and so on whole milk so I could switch to that.

FatalCabbage Sun 11-May-14 09:02:44

Low fat has been debunked in longitudinal studies. Fat is your friend here as it keeps you fuller for longer.

FatalCabbage Sun 11-May-14 09:11:33

Don't know why that posted on its own hmm

Anyway, I find full-fat milk porridge with a little fruit (banana, sultanas, etc) starts the day right. If I get nibbly cravings then ready salted crisps help - most other flavours have sugar in - or fruit, perhaps with full-fat Greek yogurt, does the job. Often I'd think hmm I fancy something ... Well if I can't have a Twix I'll not bother then.

I relax the rules on Sundays.

FatalCabbage Sun 11-May-14 09:11:47

Don't know why that posted on its own hmm

Anyway, I find full-fat milk porridge with a little fruit (banana, sultanas, etc) starts the day right. If I get nibbly cravings then ready salted crisps help - most other flavours have sugar in - or fruit, perhaps with full-fat Greek yogurt, does the job. Often I'd think hmm I fancy something ... Well if I can't have a Twix I'll not bother then.

I relax the rules on Sundays.

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