A sugar free month - anyone else fancy giving it a go?

(243 Posts)
HearMyRoar Fri 27-Dec-13 18:46:58

I Have been thinking about giving up sugar for a long time now but haven't really felt ready. I have decided that now is the time and so am aiming for a sugar free month from the 6 january.

I figured starting with a month seemed less scary then giving it up forever and reasonably achievable... I hope grin

Still working out my rules but currently they are:

No sugar
No sugar substitutes
No processed food with any sort of sugar or sugar substitute in

So pretty simple so far. I am not giving up the carbs so still eating rice, bread, etc (I am nowhere near ready for boot camp). Also planning on still eating lots of fruit though probably not juice. All this is open to negotiations and suggestions.

Anyone fancy joining me? Go on....please... Anyone...

BerylsDailyKumquat Fri 27-Dec-13 19:43:11

Sounds interesting - I'm currently following the 7 step plan to giving up sugar, and don't want to rush into trying to give up too much too quickly, but with carbs still on the menu it might be doable...I'll give it some thought...

Womnaleplus Fri 27-Dec-13 19:44:58

What's the seven step plan, Beryls?

I'm interested!

BerylsDailyKumquat Fri 27-Dec-13 19:49:55

It's from a book called Potatoes Not Prozac, all about sugar sensitivity. It starts with eating breakfast with protein everyday, then moves onto having 3 regular meals with protein, and gradually moves onto cutting out sugars...it's a slow and steady approach. There's a website called Radiant Recovery which goes into the steps in more detail.

HearMyRoar Sat 28-Dec-13 08:31:32

Yay! I've got friends grin

I'll check out that book beryl. It sounds interesting.

Hello Wom!

I've been working on improving my diet for the past few years. I'm good with the 3 meals a day, could improve the protein intake though. Weirdly I think I am not too bad with hidden sugars as most of my food is cooked from scratch. My problem is that I have 3 lovely meals and then still scoff loads of biscuits, cake and chocolate.

I've tried cutting back in the past but it never lasts long so I think stopping the whole lot for a bit is the way to go for me. At least worth a try smile

BerylsDailyKumquat Sat 28-Dec-13 15:46:25

Yes, I sometimes think it's easier to cut it out totally rather than rationing what you have. I'm awful with skipping meals, I often don't feel hungry at meal times, and then leave it until I'm starving which is when I end up grabbing something quick and easy (& unhealthy!). I'm going to start doing more cooking, so that there's always healthy left-overs in the fridge to quickly heat up when I'm hungry.

WireCatGlitteryBaubles Sat 28-Dec-13 15:48:03

I will join.

Think I'm addicted to sugar.

It's not good.

6th of Jan sounds good. Kids back to school & gives me a chance to get rid of eat all of the Christmas chocolates.

Tinkertaylor1 Sat 28-Dec-13 15:50:05

Me!!!!! When you starting???

I'm a complete sugar addict and its getting out of control especially itch chocolate .

I feel disgusting inside.

Beryl's website sounds good! I'm going I cut wheat out too!

HearMyRoar Sat 28-Dec-13 18:14:14

I know just what you mean about feeling disgusting inside tinker. I just feel so yukky and full of crap. I want to feel clean and shiny and full of vim (whatever that is) grin

HearMyRoar Sat 28-Dec-13 18:16:37

I have quite a lot going on up until the 5th so thought the 6th seemed a good time. Going to Mil's for a few days the weekend after so might fail on rule 3 as we will be eating out but hoping to keep to the 1st 2 rules and avoid anything too obvious.

Womnaleplus Sat 28-Dec-13 18:32:37

Yes, I will do both wheat and sugar.

ToddleWaddle Sat 28-Dec-13 18:38:07

I would love to give up sugar too. Never really had a sweet tooth until I lost weight a few years ago.
Find it's all or nothing with me so will aim to cut out completely.
Am breastfeeding dd2 6 months old but need to change diet dramitacally and start exercising again to shift the calories!

nosleeptilever Sat 28-Dec-13 18:39:24

I'm in. I went sugar free for years when in my early twenties and lost tonnes of weight and had loads of energy. I'm back to being a complete sugar addict in my late thirties, a stone overweight, always ill and tired and I want to feel good again!

Womnaleplus Sat 28-Dec-13 18:42:27

Wow, nosleep, can you say more? Why did you cut it out, did you cut anything else out, how hard was it?

I'm sitting in the bath feeling disgusted with myself as I've put away so much crap these last few days. It's actually ruined my appetite for real food. I'm constantly after junk sad.

HearMyRoar Sun 29-Dec-13 10:47:35

nosleep did you reach a point where you didn't really want it anymore?

I have got to that stage with alcohol after not drinking more then a pint in the last couple of years. I was fully expecting to have a little tipple at Xmas but when it came to it the thought made me feel yuk and I didn't want any at all. I sort of hope I'll feel like that about sugary things one day.

BerylsDailyKumquat Sun 29-Dec-13 11:00:30

I overdosed on wine and chocolates last night so today I'm planning 3 good meals and no sugary snacks. Started with scrambled eggs & toast for breakfast, am going to have soup for lunch then I'm doing a roast dinner tonight. I expect I'll still indulge in my daily Pepsi Max, but I'm going to tackle the sugar first before giving that up too.

I haven't drank loads this Christmas, I'm planning a couple of drinks on NYE, but none until then this week now. From the New Year I've decided to only drink when out, to cut out the odd glasses of wine I have at home (friday & saturday, and sonetimes one midweek too). I find that when I eat less sugary stuff I don't fancy wine as much either.

Nettee Sun 29-Dec-13 21:11:50

Hello - can I join you? I have read sweet poison and the sweet poison quit plan and have gone for a sort of cold Turkey since 20th December although I have not been perfect for a few days over Christmas.

I have had headaches on and off but no cravings as such - hoping to make it a way of life but a month is a good start.

I think the social situations where there is birthday cake or similar are going to be the hardest to deal with. Hoping to develop my polite "no thank you" response.

I have been gradually gaining all the weight I lost with slimming world over the last year and hope that quitting sugar will stop all the obsessing with weigh ins and what I can eat next.

Good luck to you all - bring on 6th January!

Betrayedbutsurvived Sun 29-Dec-13 21:20:38

Hi we've been sugar free for two years, and it's the best thing we ever did. BUT, it's a lot harder than you think, for a start, you need to stop eating bread.
http://www.gnolls.org/905/mechanisms-of-sugar-addiction-or-why-youre-addicted-to-bread/

Read michel Pollan. Once you get into this stuff, it's life changing, but it's a damn site hard than you think to begin with.

Betrayedbutsurvived Sun 29-Dec-13 21:22:21
Nettee Sun 29-Dec-13 21:29:10

Thank you for that - I am going to aim to eat smaller portions of bread, potatoes, pasta and rice (in order to reduce the calories I am eating for weight loss) but am not going to cut them out altogether.

I can see what they are saying about glucose being released quickly from these things but I have been reading about avoiding fructose specifically because it bypasses our satiety signals more than glucose does.

MollyBerry Sun 29-Dec-13 21:39:34

I'm in! I'm goign to start tomorrow but I think I'm goign to need to do a bit of research on what things actually have sugar in them as I think I'm probably eating a lot of hidden stuff

thisismyYuleTimenickname Sun 29-Dec-13 21:49:20

I fancy giving it a go too!

HearMyRoar Sun 29-Dec-13 21:56:29

I'm just not ready to give up the bread yet. I know if I went all out for stopping sugar and bread, potatoes, etc all at once I would just fail miserably. Aiming for one step at a time to try and make it achievable for me. Maybe bread will be next on the list.

Nettee Mon 30-Dec-13 07:14:19

I agree with you hearmyroar. I don't think I could cut all carbs and not for the long term. Will aim for whole meal and sweet potatoes but not be fanatical about it. So much rubbish that I eat is full of sucrose so cutting all that out is bound to make a difference to my health whether the theories are right or not.

Nettee Mon 30-Dec-13 19:22:22

Woo hoo - small victory today! No ice cream at the pantomime interval. The world didn't come crashing down around me either smile

JedwardScissorhands Mon 30-Dec-13 19:30:31

Think I will give this a go. I am what is known on mumsnet as skinny fat, which I suspect is due to too much sugar. I don't even really have a sweet tooth. Think I need to focus on eating more mindfully, with an increase in protein. I only eat sugary crap as I am hungry, so need to fix this. Will look at the 7 step website, sounds good.

HearMyRoar Tue 31-Dec-13 06:55:33

No ice cream at the panto! <faints with shock> What have I started! grin

foofooyeah Tue 31-Dec-13 08:14:43

I'm planning this .... Marking my spot

KepekCrumbs Tue 31-Dec-13 08:20:59

This is such a good idea. May I join you? The only time I managed to lose weight which stayed off for a year was when I gave up sugar. Otherwise i have yoyoed wildly most of my adult life. Stupidly I let it creep back but like any addiction, you can't consider yourself cured, just in recovery.

Womnaleplus Tue 31-Dec-13 10:39:59

Netee, what does the quit plan look like?

My vague plan is:

Weeks 1 & 2: no sugar in coffee, no sweets or choc. Live yogurt for breakfast, eggs every day, up protein and fats. Fruit limited to berries, apples

Weeks 3 & 4: all the above plus no wheat. Concerted effort to increase veg intake, particularly leafy greens.

Then if I can pull that off (!), I'm considering doing a Whole30 in February....

It's going to be so, so tough. I am an absolute sugar addict. I basically run on sugar, and have done since recovering from a serious eating disorder in 2008/9 sad

Nettee Wed 01-Jan-14 06:59:46

I will try to summarise the main points but it is a reasonably long book that you can get on Kindle for £1.99 and it is pretty good.

Rule 1 is to have the right attitude, essentially feel positive about it rather than deprived.

The first suggestion is to make a list of those times when you snack on sugar as a habit and work out what you are going to do instead.

He suggests cold turkey but says that gradual cutting down can work as long as you keep a sugar diary and are really strict about it.

Essentially the rule is no frutose except that found in vegetables and two pieces of fresh fruit per day.

Look at labels - dairy products should have 4.7% sugar as that is the lactose which is ok, bread should have as little sugar as you can find - I have gone for hovis wholemeal granary at 2.4%. Avoid anything labelled as low fat as it is likely to have added sugar.

He suggests snacking on nuts (which I am doing whilst being nervous about the calorie content) - He does say that as the sugar addiction disappears the snacking will naturally reduce anyway.

He gives a bit of a mixed message about the occasional bit of sugar - first of all comparing everyone to alcoholics and saying even a little will set us off but also saying that party food is for parties and having a dessert someone has cooked at a dinner party once in a while is not the end of the world.

Drink only water and milk - low sugar alcohol allowed in moderation

withdrawal is worse for women and can last a good few weeks but hopefully with only be up to two weeks and will feel like a nagging hunger and head aches. After that there should be a moment of revelation when you realise that you no longer crave sweet food.

sweetners are fine in relation to sugar addiction but who knows if they are fine in the long term for health. Use them for a bit if you need to but you will find you don't need them forever.

Once withdrawal is over you can use glucose for baking cakes etc. - My thoughts on this is that the calorie content will be the same so I am not planning to do it all that much. The theory is that glucose will fill you up properly so you wouldn't over indulge this way but will maybe have less supper later on for example.

Anyway a bit of a long answer to your question and to be honest your plan sounds good to me and a lot simpler! What is the Whole30?

HearMyRoar Wed 01-Jan-14 09:05:40

Nice post nettee that's a fabulous summary.

I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on the great sugat alternatives debate? I was really inspired to give up sugar by this book he says a big no to sugar alternatives so I am planning on avoiding them. What do you guys think?

Nettee Wed 01-Jan-14 10:36:23

I looked into this when I was on slimming world eating lots of muller lights and decided a bit of synned sugar would be better. I thnk they did an experiment on rats and Gould the ones eating sweetener gained weight as it made them hungrier.

Also I have come round to the view that we should try to eat what our ancestors did as much as possible as we just have not evolved to eat new man made chemicals. Who knows if or how they are bad for us but we are being the guinea pigs.

HearMyRoar Thu 02-Jan-14 08:24:48

Interesting about the experiment. Better, I think I sort of agree with you on the food front.

Dh has said he will give the sugar free business a go if I can make an acceptable biscuit. Had my first go yesterday and he was pretty impressed with it. Needs some tweaks as it was a bit pastryish for my liking but not too bad really. Think this could turn into a bit of a project grin

HearMyRoar Thu 02-Jan-14 08:25:42

Hmm... My auto correct keeps turning nettee into better, very annoying

BerylsDailyKumquat Thu 02-Jan-14 10:25:21

Ooh my copy of The Sweet Poison Quit Plan arrived today, I ordered it weeks ago so am glad to finally have it! From Nettee's description it sounds really good.

<drumroll please> I went sugar free as of New Year's Day!!! This is quite major for me, and there are still lots of chocolates etc all over the house from Christmas, but so far it's going well. Anyone else started yet or are you all waiting til next week?

Womnaleplus Thu 02-Jan-14 10:25:44

Nettee thanks, that's a great explanation! I have come across the theory that fructose is actually the most damaging of the sugars before (something about its effect on the liver?)

Whole30 is proper paleo (the whole ancestral eating thing) and I probably would eat like it long term as it's no grains, sugar, dairy, legumes or alcohol, and excludes many fruits. It's a thirty day challenge and you can then reintroduce things one at a time to see if you tolerate them.

Womnaleplus Thu 02-Jan-14 10:26:24
HearMyRoar Thu 02-Jan-14 13:20:54

Gosh wom that looks seriously scary! No beans! I blooming love beans.

Congratulations beryl! I think you are the first. I am doubly impressed you are doing it with chocolate still about. I am aiming to finish all ours by Monday. I do feel like I am ready now though, I've eaten so much crap that I am rather looking forward to not having it any more.

BerylsDailyKumquat Thu 02-Jan-14 14:56:56

wom I attempted a Whole30 a while back, and only lasted a couple of days. I think you're very sensible to build up to it, for me it was too big a jump from my usual diet.

Feeling a bit headachey this afternoon, but that's quite possibly caffeine withdrawal from not having my usual Pepsi Max fix. Going to make myself a healthy snack to keep me going til tea. I think the trick is to not to get too hungry...

BerylsDailyKumquat Thu 02-Jan-14 15:00:40

HearMyRoar we've got ridiculous amounts of chocolate etc left, it would take weeks to eat it all. I'm going to put it away. I'll have to get used to resisting temptation anyway as DS and DH will both be eating sweet stuff on a reglar basis. I've already made DS jam on toast today!

Womnaleplus Thu 02-Jan-14 15:05:06

I've started, currently drinking a latte with no sugar in town shock.

I have four cans of diet coke in my fridge that I will allow myself to finish off before kicking that (disgusting stuff, but addictive) and sticking with the coffee.

Beryl that sounds like my own previous Whole30 experience grin. I got horrendous carb flu and caffeine withdrawal - horrible migraines and vomiting - so I gave up.

Nettee Thu 02-Jan-14 18:16:36

Yay - well done to everyone who has started. Whole30 sounds good but not sure I could do it. I tried quitting caffeine a few weeks ago and although the withdrawal was not all that bad I found the cultural aspect of drinking cups of tea too strong a draw. I suspect this will also be my biggest problem with quitting sugar - birthday cake anyone?

Great that your DH is on board Hearmyroar - I suspect that will make a lot of difference. Mine isn't but then it should be ok as he doesn't have much of a sweet tooth. We have liked things like sweet and sour sauce and ketchup though so will need a bit of tweaking there.

How did you make your biscuit? my bag of glucose powder came through the post today so wondering if I should get baking or as I said earlier if I should wait for a special occasion.

Womnaleplus Thu 02-Jan-14 21:09:22

I switched to redbush/rooibos a few years ago Nettee. Took a bit of getting used to but I now prefer it to 'normal' tea. You can take it with milk and sugar, no! Naughty and everything.

This sounds good. I have spent this evening gorging on toffee popcorn chocolates and shortbread and feel disgusting. I'm taking most of the tins of biscuits and chocolates into work tomorrow. Have allowed the children to choose one each (were obviously difficult to buy for as between the five of us we got over 20 boxes/tins of treats) and the rest will go.

I will then look at cutting out caffeine. Does anyone know if tassimo costa latte contains added sugars or just the sugars from uht milk? It's the only coffee I drink and don't think I could get through long work days on just water. I can't stand instant coffee and filter coffee has an adverse effect on my bowels blush

mulberrybag Thu 02-Jan-14 21:27:15

Im in too ! I kid myself every day that today will be a sugar free day and have done for the last year at least. My skin is awful and although I'm not over weight I have saggy flabby skin and from the mountains that I've read about nutrition, sugar is a major offender ...so I'm starting with you, if that's okay.

Womnaleplus Thu 02-Jan-14 21:44:08

Join us!

I'm on day two no sugar (apart from a cheeky banana I've been really good at sticking to my plan above).

Mulberry I've don't that for so long, too. Always promising myself to give up sugar forever and then giving up and binging on the stuff (in for a penny type thinking). I'm hopeful that a time-limited challenge will keep me on track!

TheOneAndOnlyAlpha Thu 02-Jan-14 21:50:20

I'll do it!

I also want to try and cut down on carbs, so no carbs at breakfast and lunch, then a limited amount at dinner. I can't really avoid then totally as DH loves his pasta/rice/spuds but I can certainly cut down.

I'll do no sugar month from the 6th grin

TheOneAndOnlyAlpha Thu 02-Jan-14 21:51:34

Oh Lordy does that mean no fruit too?

skaen Thu 02-Jan-14 22:24:57

Hello - I'm doing this with pretty much your rules, Op, by co incidence!

I've been struggling with recurrent thrush so I've decided to cut out sweets, chocolates, biscuits, crisps and alcohol for the month and limit normal carbs to brown ( I know it's not perfect, but I will be able to stick to it!)

Good luck!

Womnaleplus Thu 02-Jan-14 22:49:07

Alpha, I think we're all doing slightly different versions of the no sugar thing. I posted my plan earlier and it involves cutting back on super-sweet fruit like bananas, tropical fruits etc, and stick to lower sugar stuff like berries, apples and pears.

somedayillbesaturdaynite Thu 02-Jan-14 23:12:11

i am on day 4 of a restricted diet to reduce the fattiness of my liver before i have my gallbladder removed next week. i am dying for some bread! I think after the op though it would be a shame to waste 10 days of cold-turkey sugar-free (thank god i'll be allowed some cheese or meat to fill me up grin )

Nettee Fri 03-Jan-14 07:15:49

Good luck with your op someday. What are you allowed to eat now?

Nettee Fri 03-Jan-14 07:21:47

I have done a whole week now (or two if I count the dodgy Christmas week). The headaches seem to have gone and I definitely feel full more quickly at meals. Still grazing on nuts and crackers with cheese but I am 3.5lb down grin.

Trying not to obsess about the weight though because I know what will happen if I do that once I reach a weight I am happy with. It is good to be mainly sticking to sugar free.

karatekimmi Fri 03-Jan-14 08:35:22

Just had my first cup of sugar free tea, inspired by you guys!! I am going to cut out sugar in my tea, and make an effort to only eat home cooked food. The biggest challenge will be biscuits at work!! I will try to avoid bread, and other carbs, but I am not planning to cut them out completely.

Knit2togtbl Fri 03-Jan-14 08:51:51

sweetpoison.com.au/
great books!

somedayillbesaturdaynite Fri 03-Jan-14 11:25:45

consists basically of just stock to drink (oxo/bovril) and low fat low sugar yogurts, plus a multi-vit and 200ml fruit juice per day.

BerylsDailyKumquat Fri 03-Jan-14 15:11:20

I'm struggling with a constant low level headache & a lack of energy - day 3 of no sugar/caffeine and today has been the hardest. I just feel generally yuck...hopefully it'll start to improve by tomorrow.

Someday that sounds harsh!

BerylsDailyKumquat Fri 03-Jan-14 18:25:33

Eek, so this afternoon I caved and had a Pepsi Max. However, in my defence it was either that or crack open the chocolate, so it was the lesser of two evils AND in The Sweet Poison Quit Plan he advocates using diet drinks to get you through the withdrawal phase, and claims that once you're successfully off sugar, you'll no longer feel the need for them. So I'm not feeling too guilty. This is most definitely the longest I have gone without sugar for.

Womnaleplus Fri 03-Jan-14 19:46:58

I had to eat a sliver of brownie this morning to be polite (honestly!) but apart from that I've been very successful so far. Oh yes, and another banana.

I fear though it's because I'm still having lots of bread-type things, which are keeping my blood sugar levels up. I'm also having a lot of dairy, which I've read can cause insulin spikes - all very confusing. Still, the aim of the first two weeks is to try and get rid of my automatic reaching for the sweet stuff.

Today I've had:
Large bowl of homemade Easiyo yogurt with banana slices and added cream
3x milky coffees
Piece of brownie the size of my thumb
Homemade chicken and veg soup
More yogurt and blueberries
A couple of crackers
3x cups of rooibos with milk
Enormous roast chicken dinner with obscene amount of mash and yorkies

Just putting DC in bed before the most challenging part of the day for me. I'm especially bad at stuffing my face with an entire family sharing bag of chocolate in the evening.

HearMyRoar Sat 04-Jan-14 10:39:54

Wow! Good job everyone! grin

We finished up all the biscuits, chocolates and stuff last night so have decided to make a start today. Figured I then have 2 practice days before starting proper.

Bit worried about Monday as there are tons and tons of cakes in the office at the moment as everyone has brought in their Christmas excess. Going to have to take in loads of sugar free treats to get me through.

BerylsDailyKumquat Sat 04-Jan-14 13:41:57

I really want some chocolate!!!!!

ProfessorDent Sat 04-Jan-14 14:58:20

BerylsDK... I'm not sure Pepsi Max is the lesser of two evils, as being liquid sugar you are mainlining the drug, it goes into your bloodstream quicker and leads to a spike in sugar levels.

As for chocolate, all confectionary is bad, esp Whispa, Flake, Dairy Milk, Galaxy, Yorkie Bars, Giant Buttons, Milky Bar, Twix etc but some is more passable eg plain chocolate (that Green & Black's Orange flavoured stuff) and those 20p Freddie the Frog bars, imo.

I personally advise Wassen's Magnesium supplements to wean yourself off chocolate, plus Solgar's Chronium Piccilinonate (sp?) capsules to regulate blood sugar levels. Oh, and get your beauty sleep to avoid using the caffeine in chocolate as a pick me up.

BerylsDailyKumquat Sat 04-Jan-14 15:40:26

Pepsi Max doesn't contain sugar, although it does contain artificial sweetener, which Iknow probably isn't great. I just got to the bit in the Sweet Poison book where he says he used Pepsi Max whilst withdrawing from sugar, for about 2 weeks, then no longer felt the need for it. I don't think I'd get through the cravings for sugar without it to be honest!

Womnaleplus Sat 04-Jan-14 17:37:20

I hear you about the chocolate, Beryl, I hear you!

Am currently snacking on macadamia nuts to ward off some pretty horrible cravings. They actually taste almost sweet.

Womnaleplus Sat 04-Jan-14 17:38:20

Ooh, I have some magnesium supplements I was meant to start taking for my migraines. I'll crack them open.

invicta Sat 04-Jan-14 17:42:45

Marking my place to read through thread properly later.

A quick contribution is Jordans. Natural muesli. It's one of the only cereals I can find that doesn't contain sugar.

HearMyRoar Sat 04-Jan-14 19:09:45

Just one day sugar free and I hit the withdrawals at 6pm. God, I feel like i'm on a come down.

I'm going to have a nice hot drink of coco when dh has finished putting dd to bed, hoping that will make me feel a bit better.

BerylsDailyKumquat Sat 04-Jan-14 22:14:14

Oh dear HearMyRoar, if it's any consolation, I've been feeling loads better this afternoon/evening, yesterday (day 3) was the worst for me - although obviously I don't want to speak too soon, who knows what tomorrow will bring?

I've found thinking of it as a short-term challenge helpful, 'I'll just stick with it for a week' type thoughts helped me through today's cravings. I'm hoping that the cravings will go (as promised in The Sweet Poison Quit Plan) and then it'll be a lot easier. I've found the book really helpful in keeping me on track actually, I downloaded his first book today too, although I haven't started it yet.

Hope you survived the evening.

Womnaleplus Sun 05-Jan-14 08:15:52

Totally agree Beryl that I'm doing so much better this time by thinking if this as a time-limited challenge.

Also for me, not trying to cut out everything at once.

Nettee Sun 05-Jan-14 09:19:07

I had a lethargic day yesterday and my grazing habit has not yet abated. Not really feeling tempted to eat sugar though - I think having a firm rule is helping me - not good at moderation.

I was reading Sarah wilson's book - I quit sugar- which is ok, essentially the same as sweet poison but shorter and with more pictures. She suggests a two week run in followed by a month of cold turkey to include no fruit.

I have been going over my 2 pieces of fruit a day limit and have not yet been too strict about sauces and things. Probably time to get a bit stricter.

Good luck to anyone starting tomorrow or already in the worst of withdrawal.

HearMyRoar Sun 05-Jan-14 13:08:48

Hi all. I'm actually feeling much better today. The coco definitely helped, I would recomend it with a dash of vanilla essence in.

I have found I am drinking a lot of water and also grazing like mad. I figure I will just concentrate on eating anything that isn't sugar and worry about eating sensible amounts when I get through the crash.

BerylsDailyKumquat Sun 05-Jan-14 19:45:17

I've been wanting loads more water than usual too. I was hungrier for the 1st couple of days, but since yesterday I seem to have been eating less than normal. Made it through the weekend anyway smile

GermanGirlinLDN Sun 05-Jan-14 23:22:45

I would like to join too. I'm a sugar addict. When I am tired, I eat food full of sugar. When I am depressed, I eat even more sugar. It will be interesting to see the changes in a month without sugar.

Pumpkin567 Mon 06-Jan-14 07:18:42

I'm wanting to cut out sugar, maybe not 100% but certainly much , much less.
I'm going to do it in stages though, all obvious sugars ( sweets, wine, drinks, choc, cake) first then onto less obvious ones, bread will be the first challenge. I'm going to switch to homemade bread with less white flour.

So this weeks obvious sugar, next week bread.

ToddleWaddle Mon 06-Jan-14 10:20:08

Started this morning,home made muesli for breakfast. Even weighed myself(could probably have done with a drink aftersad()

Naebother Mon 06-Jan-14 10:51:05

Can I join?

Giving up sugar from yesterday. I know I'm an addict. It's gonna be hard but I am determined.

Really interesting article in the Sunday times magazine yesterday inspired me. Can't link as it's behind paywall but if you can get hold of it. Really good.

Had porridge with a quarter apple for breakfast. Thinking omelette for lunch. The fridge is still full of sweet treats. Kids get so much given to them and I feel like chucking it all out.

We are all doing it, so no honey on their cereal this morning. There were grumbles!

Womnaleplus Mon 06-Jan-14 11:15:48

Hi all, great to see some new faces! Germangirl, I hear you. I reach for sugar for just about any reason and no reason.

Pumpkin that sounds like my approach, and it's going much better this time than it ever has previously (cold turkey makes me so ill).

Toddlewaddle (love the nn!) I am on day 6 and I have lost over a kilo! Take heart, if you're a true sugar addict you should see results fairly rapidly.

Naebother I don't have a subscription (DM does, might see if I can pop over later and have a look). Could you summarise the main points of the article?

mulberrybag Mon 06-Jan-14 11:28:26

I'm starting today (..accidental sugar binge yesterday...but I'd planned to start today anyhow) can't wait to start feeling energised and hopefully have clearer skin! It's going to be tough isn't it .....

BerylsDailyKumquat Mon 06-Jan-14 13:54:27

Yes mulberrybag it is wink . Getting over the first couple of days was the worst, but I'm still resisting the urge to break open the christmas Toblerone! The more I readabout the damage sugar causes over the long term, the more determined I am not to succumb!

Womnaleplus Mon 06-Jan-14 13:57:57

It's terrifying, isn't it, Beryl!

choceyes Mon 06-Jan-14 14:13:29

I'd like to join in too.
Am I too late though? I've just had some chocolate though so that's the end of it I hope!
I've eaten far too many sugary type stuff. I'm also cutting out processed carbs. We don't eat much of it at home anyway, so it's not hard, but do have biscuits, homemade cake etc for treats so I need to cut that out.
Also for the children who's been spoilt over christmas with treats, so I'm doing it for them too.
I don't need to lose weight, just want to eat healthier.

Womnaleplus Mon 06-Jan-14 14:16:32

It's terrifying, isn't it, Beryl!

Naebother Mon 06-Jan-14 15:29:05

Summary to follow. Dh has taken it to work!

BerylsDailyKumquat Mon 06-Jan-14 16:54:45

I know womnaleplus I half wish I'd never found out so I could continue to enjoy all my sugary favourites. I'm hoping I will eventually stop missing it...

Can anyone please recommend any fizzy drinks which don't contain sugar or aspartame (or any other undesirables??) or is that a mission impossible??

Nettee Mon 06-Jan-14 17:43:57

Fizzy water?

David Gillespie mentions lucozade original as an option although it does contain glucose so is only ok if giving up fructose. Looking at the ingrediants list there is all sorts of flavourings and colours too to worry about.

Had a bagel binge this afternoon - sigh - oh well onwards and upwards.....

Knit2togtbl Mon 06-Jan-14 18:11:12

Has anyone been able to find a supplier of dextrose in decent quantities?
DG recommends it instead of sugar for baking.

Knit2togtbl Mon 06-Jan-14 18:12:58
Womnaleplus Mon 06-Jan-14 18:27:30

Beryl, I read that adding a bit of citric acid to fizzy water tastes ok - or how about a squeeze of lemon/lime/orange? Not exactly sugar free, but a darned sight better than coke or pepsi, surely?

invicta Mon 06-Jan-14 19:16:01

First day for me, also, although I don' t plan to do it as deeply as some people. Ie. i plan to give up cakes, biscuits, hot chocolate, alcohol etc, but am not bothered about bread. Also, I'll eat fruit and fruit juice.

GermanGirlinLDN Mon 06-Jan-14 21:52:56

First day without sugar. I was stressed, constantly tired and starting crying for no reason around dinner time. But I did it.

BerylsDailyKumquat Mon 06-Jan-14 22:04:30

Well done first dayers!

As I near the end of my 1st week I've decided that I am now ready to give up the Pepsi Max - I'm anticipating headaches for the next few days. Thanks womnaleplus, I might try your suggestion if I get really desperate, but to begin with I'm going to try to stick with either water or milk (I tried a glass earlier, it was surprisingly nice!).

gingangoolie1 Mon 06-Jan-14 22:52:34

Started today too (monday, kids back to school etc) Keep trying to cut out sugar in the past, but fail miserably by day 5 or week 2. So joining the post as I realise I need the support of others to keep momentum up.

Today - no bread, no sugar, no fruit - plenty protein & veg, hot water + lemon (surprisingly OK!), tea / coffee as normal.

My problem is I can't cut out a glass at wine-o'clock. Does that rule me out??

Womnaleplus Tue 07-Jan-14 05:52:16

Tbf ging I think we're all doing slightly different things so if you want to include wine, that's fine! I'm still having bread and fruit at the moment.

Nettee Tue 07-Jan-14 06:41:08

as long as it isn't sweet alcohol it is ok - although alcohol is also addictive and bad for us in similar ways to sugar it shouldn't be too relevant to the sugar addiction.

I had my first food fantasy yesterday - the cravings are obviously working their way into my conscious mind. Never mind, still resisting sugar so far. Just need to fill myself up at lunch more I think to avoid the need to snack excessively on other things in the afternoons.

Good luck to everyone on day 2!

ShimmeringInTheSun Tue 07-Jan-14 07:54:35

Good morning all, may I join you?

flowers for everyone here.

I first read this thread a week ago, and everything that was said resonated with me so much, as I had noticed that whenever I ate anything with sugar mainly chocolate lots of it every day I would have a severely upset stomach.
So, I decided there and then to go cold turkey, and the difference in me is amazing. I have more energy, no more upset stomachs, and as a bonus I've lost 4lb in weight.
If I get a craving now (which is rare) I either drink water, nibble some plain popcorn, or both!
The hardest test though is going to be today, as I am back to work. There is a cafe I have to walk by in the building, with heaps of chocolate bars that taunt you as you walk by.

Wish me luck - will be back later !

ProfessorDent Tue 07-Jan-14 12:55:24

I am a bit mystified by what is sugar and what isn't. Obv chocolate is really just sugar and has not much cocoa content, it is the sugar that reels you in each time.

But a banana is 50 per cent sugar? WTF?

I am trying Greek-style yoghurt with berries ie grapes, blueberries, a few strawbs from Tesco. It tastes great, really sumptuous, but is this another thing that will turn out to have sugar in it? At any rate it isn't as bad as choccie bars I guess.

Is all bread sugary, I mean surely some is okay? bTW, I have to say the Pret breakfast baguettes seem to have a lot of salt, esp the egg, which of course makes you want to have something sweet to compensate.

Womnaleplus Tue 07-Jan-14 13:19:05

Professor, it depends on what you're trying to achieve - if you want to stop eating sugary crap, you just need to do what you're doing and avoid the added stuff.

At the other end of the spectrum are those avoiding all sugars, including lactose (your Greek yogurt) and fructose (any fruit, also the basic component of the super evil high fructose corn syrup). Being super strict would mean skipping all refined carbohydrates as the body converts them into simple sugars as part of the digestion process. Your carbs would come from veg.

In the middle there are those who intend to avoid most carbs and alcohol, as well as high sugar fruits. Some fruits are much lower in fructose - including strawberries and most other berries! I am also continuing to eat live yogurt as it contains beneficial bacteria which I think are really helpful for us sugar addicts, as it's likely our gut flora are totally out of whack.

Sadly this doesn't include tesco Greek style yogurt as it's pasteurised! Try Total full fat instead, or invest in an Easiyo yogurt maker and make your own. I got one for Xmas and they're amazing! Fresh live yogurt every morning!

choceyes Tue 07-Jan-14 14:17:35

Yesterday I ate the last of the christmas chocolates, so I'm starting the no sugar thing today. So far...hmm..ok but I so want to have something sweet with my coffee. I didn't realise how much I craved something sweet after a meal too. I don't tend to eat bars of chocolate, it's just one biscuit, couple of pieces of choc or a sugary yoghurt type thing that I normally eat, and it's going to be tough to give that up totally.
I'm not giving up fruit(I'm not a big fruit eater anyway, prefer veg) or carbs, just processed carbs and added sugar. Added sugar is in so many things, it's quite a big thing in itself I feel!

choceyes Tue 07-Jan-14 14:19:11

That reminds me, I make lovely sugar free banana bread and flapjacks. Haven't done it for awhile, so will get baking this week.

ProfessorDent Tue 07-Jan-14 14:32:14

Thanks Womnaleplus (what does that name mean?), that's very helpful, shame I just went out and bought Tesco Low Fat and Tesco No Fat Greek yoghurt in my lunchbreak!

That said, would heartily advise choceyes to do the Greek yoghurt thing, it's very tasty and I do seem to have more energy today (though that may be from a good night's sleep too...) Has to be better than choc rubbish and helps to wean you off the whole sugar debacle.

To go cold turkey on sugar may just be too hard, though it's simple enough I suppose; just meat and veg all day, with some eggs.

Womnaleplus Tue 07-Jan-14 14:43:38

Heh, it's the name of a brand of Japanese hand cream - aka what I had in front of me when nc'ing most recently. Wasn't feeling hugely imaginative at the time!

Full fat all the way with yogurt btw, all the flavour and vitamins in the fat!

BerylsDailyKumquat Tue 07-Jan-14 14:54:39

I don't intend to give up all carbs - just food with added sugar, and also fruit juice. I'm limiting whole fruit, but I don't usually eat masses of it anyway.

Day one off the Pepsi Max has been fine so far...

bryte Tue 07-Jan-14 15:03:49

Can I join too? I will start from tomorrow. I feel I have become more and more addicted to sweet treats over the past few years. I'm always treating myself and can't leave a shop without buying some sweets/chocolate, often more than one item.

I'm a healthy eater in most other ways. No processed food, homemade bread, no fizzy drinks, homemade cakes and biscuits only. But it is the sweets. I even feel physically awful after binging on sweets. I'd like to break the habit.

ShimmeringInTheSun Tue 07-Jan-14 17:08:38

Well, got to work this morning and there were several big boxes of Christmas chocs being passed around........ and I didn't have one!

I've cut out anything with added sugar, so for me that's biscuits, cakes, choccy, etc, and I honestly don't miss it. I'm still eating fruit, though just 2-3 pieces a day....oh, and lots of veg.

Am looking forward to my lamb an apple hotpot that's simmering nicely at the moment!

Nettee Tue 07-Jan-14 18:23:43

Any Chris Evans breakfast show fans? He has quit sugar for 2014 and had Sarah Wilson on on Monday morning 1 hr 46 min into his show if you want to listen on I player.

mulberrybag Tue 07-Jan-14 18:44:12

Day 2 evening slump, feeling the sweet cravings kicking in. .....grrrrrrr, i will not give in! Could we have the recipe for sugar free banana cake choceyes ?

ToddleWaddle Tue 07-Jan-14 18:49:34

Day 2 has left me wanting a bar of chocolate and a glass of wine.
I will not cave in. DH mostly on board except for sugar in his coffee!

HearMyRoar Tue 07-Jan-14 19:35:48

Hello everyone! Terribly exciting to see so many on the thread.

Also think its great that people are all doing what works for them. I started this because all the other threads that included giving up sugar just seemed too scary, either because they went for all carbs or because it was giving it up for ever. I just wanted something that I thought I could actually achieve even if it wasn't the ultimate goal. So basically this thread is for choosing whatever you think you can do for a month. Whether that is giving up all sugars or just stopping the obvious ones. After the month you can then congratulate yourself on being a winner and either continue or move up a level. Whatever you choose we shall all succeed! Hurrah! grin

I am now on day 4 of no sugar or alternative sweeteners. I am eating loads of fruit though including really brown banana in some sugar free cake/biscuit sort of things. I was awfully proud of myself today as I say in a 2 hour meeting with chocolate biscuits being passed about and manfully declined to have one... Twice! I think I deserve some sort of gold star for that awesome level of restraint. grin

BerylsDailyKumquat Tue 07-Jan-14 20:19:08

Ooh thanks nettee I heard him mention that this morning on his show, I'm listening to the interview now. It would be nice to think I could last the year...although I'm still having cravings today!

gingangoolie1 Tue 07-Jan-14 22:16:03

inspired by everyone, and great self-restraint hearmyroar. Be proud, and take strength from it. I've had a sugar-free day - yippee - with the exception of my glass of red wine... boo. Made a vat of veggie soup, vegetable juice for breckie - am good for 90% of the day.

Thx for heads-up on Chris Evans - will listen tmw!

BerylsDailyKumquat Wed 08-Jan-14 13:33:34

I'm struggling again today - this is day 8 for me, I thought it would be getting easier by now! sad

Womnaleplus Wed 08-Jan-14 16:00:14

Hey Beryl, I hear you! I've been in to work today and had to say no to lots of tempting choc. You think you're not bothered and then bam! The craving hits you from nowhere.

Mixed day here - had a pack of salt and vinegar crisps earlier only to find out halfway through that they contained added sugar! Wtf. Ate a few more but then thought it was a damn shame to break my journey for something frankly not particularly appetising at all.

Been positively saintly with my snack just now - black olives, feta and cucumber with fizzy water.

Womnaleplus Wed 08-Jan-14 16:17:10

Hey Beryl, I hear you! I've been in to work today and had to say no to lots of tempting choc. You think you're not bothered and then bam! The craving hits you from nowhere.

Mixed day here - had a pack of salt and vinegar crisps earlier only to find out halfway through that they contained added sugar! Wtf. Ate a few more but then thought it was a damn shame to break my journey for something frankly not particularly appetising at all.

Been positively saintly with my snack just now - black olives, feta and cucumber with fizzy water.

Womnaleplus Wed 08-Jan-14 16:17:23

Oops

BerylsDailyKumquat Wed 08-Jan-14 16:30:33

I'm dangerously close to eating a bakewell tart, but I'll make some tea and see how I feel after that. I think it's partly down to me doing two high energy workouts over the past 2 days, think my body wants me to refuel...

That's annoying about the crisps Womnaleplus, just shows that you have to check the label on everything!

I saw an interesting YouTube clip of the author of the Sweet Poison books (is it David Gillespie?) being interviewed for a radio show yesterday.

invicta Wed 08-Jan-14 23:04:32

Well done everyone on your good work. So far, so good for me. The weekend will be tough for me as that's when I eat most cakes and alcohol.

Nettee Thu 09-Jan-14 10:07:28

It seems we are right on trend this year - good to have company!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10559671/Sugar-is-as-dangerous-as-alcohol-and-tobacco-warn-health-experts.html

The sweet poison facebook page has loads of links and is very actively updated - I have liked it and find it is helping keep up the motivation.

Hope you are all doing ok - I have had a good couple of days eating quite protein rich breakfasts and lunches which is helping I think.

Womnaleplus Thu 09-Jan-14 10:18:35

Thanks for that link Nettee, really interesting. I really hope this is not just a passing interest of the media, but signs of a real paradigm shift. Years of rising obesity, diabetes etc etc must surely be enough for us to collectively realise that sugar is definitely bad for us!

sixlive Thu 09-Jan-14 13:49:47

So I gave my sugar and alcohol on the 1st January. I have not lost any weight. I'm so disappointed. How can not drinking a glass or two of wine plus not eating a biscuit/cake/chocolate once or twice a day not lead to any weight loss. I'm mystified, maybe this is what happens when you are over 40. I'm a bit disillusioned to be honest. I'm only eating two pieces of fruit a day. I didn't drink fruit juice or much processed foods beforehand.

Same happened when I did low carb for 2 weeks I lost 2lbs which I didn't think was worth the pain involved! The only other diet I did was wieghtwatchers and I lost a stone in a month (only put half of it back on two years later), tried to do it again but got bored quickly with measuring points but I think I had better get back to it.

I've got at least half a stone, ideally a stone of weight to lose. I will give it another week, I'm only eating wholemeal stuff this week and see if that makes a difference. Otherwise its back to WW for me.

Nettee Thu 09-Jan-14 14:59:20

It is so hard not to get caught up with what the scales say and not to get disheartened. In the end you need to do what works for you.

I think the idea behind giving up sugar is that after 2 - 4 weeks your appetite should be better regulated so you naturally would be eating less of everything. Also it is supposed to have health benefits relating to diabetes, fatty liver disease, heart problems etc.

I am also trying to eat modest portions at meal times especially of the carbs and not go mad snacking on bagels, nuts and crisps - (I am sure you are not snacking like mad but just to share where I am being tempted!)

Also you don't have very much weight to lose and your diet was not that bad before so it would be a slower process. Good luck what ever you decide.

If you were bored with WW points slimming world is a bit more flexible as loads of foods are "free", also might be a bit of a change so less boring that way.

invicta Thu 09-Jan-14 15:39:20

You may have not lost weight, but have you lost inches?

Applefallingfromthetree2 Thu 09-Jan-14 15:49:55

Bread is a nightmare, very high carbs and much of it sugar, foods like pizza will raise blood sugar dramatically. There is sugar in so many foods including vegetables and fruit. Bananas are high in sugar which is quite fast acting, great for tennis players not so good if you are less active.

Best to concentrate on calorie control and avoiding simple fast acting sugar in sweets, cake, biscuits etc but for weight loss and reduced blood sugar watch the carbs too. It's not easy.

ProfessorDent Thu 09-Jan-14 17:54:44

Hey sixlive, a week isn't long enough imo and I think you are looking at it wrong, it sounds like you are pining for a time when you can return to sugar and it doesn't work like that. Your fat cells need to have time to recalibrate. You can kickstart weight loss with a 1km run before breakfast every other day. Of course, I don't know what else you are eating.

I have not lost any weight, for me this is about ditching the sugar craving for good and so some weight gain may even occur, tbh I am not sure that yoghurt - what I am eating a lot of with berries and nuts - is great as let's face it, it's dairy and some are allergic to that.

Applefallingfromthetree2 Thu 09-Jan-14 18:44:38

Professor -yogurt with berries contains a fair old shot of sugar, even if you have natural yogurt.

HearMyRoar Thu 09-Jan-14 19:25:15

six I agree with the others that giving up sugar is not a quick weight loss fix. A week is just not enough. I wouldn't be surprised if I have actually put on some weight this week as I have been snacking like mad and drinking tons of water, but that's fine as it takes time for the body to adjust and settle down from the withdrawal.

The reason I am doing a month is because I hope that will be long enough to start to see some benefits, anything less then that isn't going to achieve much in my view.

My understanding of low carb is that it is the same in that you tend to get very low levels of weight loss if any in the first couple of weeks but see benefits long term.

BerylsDailyKumquat Thu 09-Jan-14 19:33:28

Well I survived yesterday's crisis, and have remained sugar free...I'm just really trying to stick with it in the hope that I'll reach that magical state where sweet things just won't really appeal to me. I don't totally believe that this will actually happen, but I'm trying to give it my best shot. At the moment I'm still desperately missing it, but hopefully this will change.

Womnaleplus Thu 09-Jan-14 19:56:21

I'm fairly annoyed that I didn't check the ingredients of the curry mix DH used to make sugar this evening. Of course it had sugar in. Irritating!

I've been spending some time today reading labels and I was surprised and fairly horrified at what it's in. My mum had some posh passata (chair de tomate) and it's in that. Ditto some oatcakes. I mean, why?

Interesting to see stuff all over the media today about sugar being as bad as tobacco.

Womnaleplus Thu 09-Jan-14 19:57:05

Oops, I mean to make dinner, not make sugar. There's a good Freudian slip!

HearMyRoar Thu 09-Jan-14 20:44:00

I know what you mean wom its in everything! It took me ages today to find some ham that was sugar free as a change from cheese sandwiches. Really you wouldn't think it would be so hard to just find some meat to go in some bread that wasn't coated with sugarsugar, even the precooked chicken has it in hmm

Womnaleplus Thu 09-Jan-14 21:12:44

Sugar in chicken and ham? FFS. I need to check my labels much more carefully.

mulberrybag Thu 09-Jan-14 21:28:12

Well done Beryl, I was sugar free until yest eve when I got given a hot cross bun and ate it even though I didn't want to. So cross with myself but at least it wasnt chocolate I guess. It really is about an attitude change isnt it.... Need to stay strong! !

Nettee Thu 09-Jan-14 22:38:22

I was craving creme brûlée of all things this afternoon. I think it is the pure sugar that sits on the top and my body is getting desperate!

Fortunately there wasn't any in the fridge and I found some cheese and nuts to fill me up instead.

HearMyRoar Fri 10-Jan-14 08:11:06

Off to stay with mil for a couple days. This is going to be a challenge!

ProfessorDent Fri 10-Jan-14 16:03:00

Actually is a creme brulee (sod the accents Nettee) really that bad? Depends.

I get an itch around my bellybutton with yoghurt thing, it is just to wean me off sugar eg chocolate, I can't be doing it for the long haul. The Total yoghurt from Tesco doesn't seem to have much sugar, it's 4g per 100 and loads of protein it says.

Again, cheese is one of those things that technically is high protein and no sugar, but come off it. It still gonna be fattening, still you can use it to wean yourself off.

ProfPlumSpeaking Fri 10-Jan-14 16:10:42

This might spur you on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM&list=PL39F782316B425249&index=10

It's an american paediatrician explaining exactly how sugar, well fructose and sucrose, is so harmful (chronically it is as bad for your liver as is alcohol. Who knew?). And how a calorie of sugar makes you put on more weight than a calorie of something else.

Nettee Fri 10-Jan-14 17:52:06

The accents on brûlée just appear - I was quite pleased as I hadn't a clue where to put them. Less than 4.7 for dairy is fine as it will be lactose.

Good luck with your mother is law - hope she isn't a feeder!

Thanks for the link

ProfessorDent Fri 10-Jan-14 18:06:13

It is Hear My Roar /
Who has a Mother in Law

gingangoolie1 Fri 10-Jan-14 21:36:51

Stick with it all - after a while, the cravings do stop (so I've been told !!).

I've had huge cravings today - but stuck with it until now - munched on 3 slices rye bread (yuck!) - but a huge improvement on a packet of biscuits which I would have done by now.

Weight loss should come - surely ??

Womnaleplus Sat 11-Jan-14 12:16:09

Anyone still around?

I had an immensely challenging day yesterday, but managed to avoid the sweet stuff. Very pleased with myself smile.

karatekimmi Sat 11-Jan-14 12:21:26

I'm still lurking, and have given up bread in the week, and sugar in my tea so far!! when you start looking for sugar, its everwhere!! I'll have a think about what to give up next - im not sure where my next largest sugar intake comes from.

ToddleWaddle Sat 11-Jan-14 14:24:07

Caved in yesterday unfortunately but back on the wagon today.
Blaming non sleeping baby and a birthday party.
Did some more reading last night and now even more convinced sugar free is the only way to go.
Shocking how much sugar is about.

ProfPlumSpeaking Sat 11-Jan-14 14:47:11

Ok, I am joining you. I don't exactly need to lose weight (although 2kg would be fine) but I do want a healthy lifestyle and sugar isn't part of that. I avoided sugar before when I had (adult) dental braces as I didn't want to get decay in the parts I couldn't brush. Over a year, I lost a fair amount of weight and became a little too thin actually, partly because I also ate less generally as braces are quite restrictive, but it must have had something to do with the sugar too...I was trying to eat to put on weight by the end, but still failing.

Out to a dinner party tonight - will have to turn down pudding. I can do that.

Nettee Sat 11-Jan-14 15:01:06

First attempt at baking with dextrose today and the result is some rather bitter but passable brownies. I intend to try ketchup and ice cream over the next few weeks.

Good luck at the party.....

BerylsDailyKumquat Sat 11-Jan-14 18:49:48

I have sinned - in the form of a bag of mini party rings. They were delicious and I seriously don't think I can cope without sugar! blush

mulberrybag Sat 11-Jan-14 18:54:23

Im still here..... just! I really really under estimated exactly how much sugar I actually eat. I'm at most 2kgs over what I should be but have sugar I.e cakes biscuits etc at least once a day and at least one line of that bloody purple chocolate every evening without fail. I'm dreaming of sweet things, during the day my mind is switching to sweet day dreams all the time, its very very much harder than I expected. Aghhhh. My biggest worry is that I really love home made cakes and totally love the taste of Cadburys... i can't imagine them not in my life. How will I get over my true loves and not pine for them forever?

ProfPlumSpeaking Sun 12-Jan-14 10:32:10

Rats, failed yesterday (slice of birthday cake as pudding at birthday dinner party). I don't even like sweet things but feel social pressure to eat them.

A new day today :-)

BerylsDailyKumquat Sun 12-Jan-14 12:24:24

I know mulberry that's exactly how I feel! The thought of never having a sweet treat again is ridiculous, I'm going for the cutting down option, otherwise I just obsess about all the things I want and can't have all day.

BerylsDailyKumquat Sun 12-Jan-14 13:24:41

Sorry - didn't mean to sound discouraging then. I should have stuck with the gradual Potatoes not Prozac approach, but at least I've given cold turkey a good shot. The funny thing is, now that I've given myself 'permission' to eat sweet stuff, I haven't even had any today, but it's nice to know I can if I want to, and it's stopped me obsessing.

Good luck to those continuing smile

HearMyRoar Sun 12-Jan-14 13:36:56

Hi all, haven't had a chance to catch up on the thread so will do later. Managed the weekend with mil in not too bad shape. Had to have a slice of birthday cake but made it as small as possible and then felt horrid afterwards so really it has strengthened my resolve. Probably ate quite a bit of hidden sugars as well but all in all I am pretty pleased with myself.

HearMyRoar Sun 12-Jan-14 15:49:17

Beryl, I would feel the same if I was committing to no sugar ever, that's way too much, but a month I think I can do. After the month I'll see how I feel. I've tried cutting down but I just don't have the will power to just have little bit. I'm an all or nothing sort of person I think. No sugar is ok for me as it then isn't even an option so I can just sort of blank it out.

Nettee Sun 12-Jan-14 17:43:46

Good to read all your experiences. Pantomime no 2 today - I went with good intentions and even packed a half time snack. I said not for me thank you when Ice creams were suggested and back came an ice cream which I then ate.

On the plus side it did taste different, almost too sweet and I haven't thought oh well lets have a chocolate bar in that case as it is all ruined now so not the end of the world but just annoyed with myself (and a bit with fil who was after all trying to be nice....)

hanloumac Sun 12-Jan-14 18:06:47

I went sugar free for two years for health reasons, I started by going onto a yeast free/anti candida diet. I had a lot of other restrictions, reacting to various foods. It ended up being a blood cancer causing my thrush, as I've got better I've added foods back, but only just onto full sugar but have lost a lot of weight and don't like some things anymore. Seems to be the newest fad, it's very hard to stick to, I only managed because I was poorly and it made symptoms worse.

hanloumac Sun 12-Jan-14 18:09:40

For something sweetish I ate American pancakes (made with yoghurt. Co-op recipe) with creme fraiche and stewed desert apples. Quite calorific but no sugar.

gingangoolie1 Sun 12-Jan-14 20:36:03

Hi all - I'm still here. Struggling, but not as much as I'd thought. Like HearMyRoar I'm all-or-nothing.

But being nothing at the moment (no sugar and no wheat) - today alone I saved myself from Apple Pie, custard, marshmallows (the white ones from 2 big bags - using pink ones for fairy cakes for DC's birthday...), a good lick of the bowl, 2 crumpets, at least 2 choccie bars, and a heck of a lot more.

3lbs lost this week (I used to eat ALOT of sugary snacks). Feel REALLY good. Just need the momentum to keep it up. 2 stone to loose in total. Stepped up exercise too.

Crikey hanloumac - can't believe your blood cancer causing thrush. Quite worrying. Hope you are OK now.

I do believe sugar is addictive as nicotine, alcohol, other stuff. And we can't get away from it! No just need to try and wean DH & DC's off it a bit without them noticing ...

Keep it up everyone !!!

ProfPlumSpeaking Mon 13-Jan-14 11:45:38

Well done gingangoolie :-)

I slipped only once yesterday with a glass of champagne (not sugary, I guess, but I am trying not to drink alcohol either).

Womnaleplus Mon 13-Jan-14 13:27:40

Impressive gingang! I'm doing ok with the no sugar, apart from one biscuit yesterday, my only slip ups have been when I've eaten something savoury and realised subsequently it contained sugar. The stuff is everywhere!

I was originally planning to give up wheat too for the last two weeks of January, but I'm on hols this week so have put that back to next week.

HearMyRoar Tue 14-Jan-14 18:51:58

Hi all! I think I have now pretty much made it through the worst of the withdrawals and am starting to feel pretty good. Also I am snacking less which is good.

Still having the occasional craving but trying to just plow on through.

invicta Tue 14-Jan-14 20:51:03

I'm not being so strict on hidden sugars (eg. In pasta sauce), but haven't had any cakes, biscuits, alcohol etc, except for one slice of chocolate log which my son made.... Was tempted with alcohol yesterday. Not sure whether fruit juice is good or bad - I always thought it was good but recently it seems it's a hidden sugar.

gingangoolie1 Tue 14-Jan-14 21:02:39

Invicta - me neither on hidden sugar - life has to be lived. But I saw a programme the other day that even freshly squeezed fruit juice has as much sugar as cola etc. Frightening. I've managed to cut it out, including fruit. I've stepped-up the veggies, and making my own veg juice in the morning. If you go for it, perhaps dilute ?

good going Hear - I've got bad cravings this eve, but will draw on you to plough on through too ...

devilinside Tue 14-Jan-14 22:13:11

I'm in, have a few stone to lose and keep joining slimming clubs and failing miserably. I have realised that 90% of the time, I don't even enjoy chocolate(even though I eat it until I feel sick). I don't eat much bread anyway, I am planning to drink red wine in moderation, limited fruit, and cut out sugar, cakes, sweets and biscuits., Cheese, nuts, ryvita, greek yog for snacks and three proper meals

Womnaleplus Tue 14-Jan-14 23:15:37

Fruit juice is bad news - and a fairly easy one to cut out I think.

Womnaleplus Wed 15-Jan-14 11:31:40

Day 15 for me and I have successfully lasted two weeks without sugar! Well, apart from the stuff that crept uninvited into stuff it really shouldn't be in, and a couple of times I forgot what I was doing and had a mouthful - usually of something the kids were having.

Still planning on doing the rest of the month - anyone else?

Nettee Wed 15-Jan-14 12:55:23

Well done womnaleplus and good luck devilinside. I am still here too. Made guacamole today to have on toast for lunch. Yum. Nice to discover some sugar free things that were not so good on low fat diets I have been on.

gingangoolie1 Wed 15-Jan-14 15:17:08

Yes - still in for the month W & N. We CAN do it!

ProfPlumSpeaking Wed 15-Jan-14 15:47:42

Heinz baked beans are 5% sugar. Why??????

Womnaleplus Wed 15-Jan-14 15:59:32

Yum, homemade guacamole is great with scrambled eggs for breakfast.

HearMyRoar Thu 16-Jan-14 18:06:33

Sounds delicious. I am also guilty of accidental bites of dd's food only to realise it is a jam sandwich or something.

Worked in a different office to my usual today and I really don't like workinbng there. Ended up sitting there with huge sugar cravings all day. Was so hard!

Womnaleplus Thu 16-Jan-14 19:20:30

Tell me about it - we're on holiday at the moment and everyone had rather delicious looking icecreams today!

gladbags Fri 17-Jan-14 11:00:14

Just checking in. Am doing well and even losing the taste for sugar - just bit into a brioche and had to bin it as too sweet. Feel slightly better - more energy, less podgy, but skin still bad. (not getting any sleep thanks to the DC...).
Can you help me please:
Need more ideas for quick snacks.
Also, have cut out cake, biscuits, chocolate and bread (pretty much, there's been the odd slip, but one biscuit rather than one packet of biscuits!). What should I add to this list? Already avoid fruit juice. Was thinking crisps (not sugar, but make me fat) and baked beans.

gladbags Fri 17-Jan-14 11:00:50

oh yes, and alcohol is for weekends only. Maybe in Feb I'll limit that to Sat nights only...

ProfPlumSpeaking Fri 17-Jan-14 11:54:26

Why do you avoid bread gladbags? Have I missed something?

I slipped with a croissant and jam this morning by mistake. Otherwise, doing well and feeling good.

invicta Fri 17-Jan-14 18:45:16

Hot chocolate has sugar. Cocoa is okay.

Bread contains sugar to help the yeast. There is a discussion on it either higher up on this thread, or on another recent thread about sugar. Home made bread is better.

Some people are cutting out obvious sugared products ( including me) such as sakes biscuits etc. Some people are doing it more indepth and cutting out hidden sugar-contains products. Eg. Beans,

invicta Fri 17-Jan-14 18:46:08

Forgot to say, I had a hot chocolate at a friends, but apart from that, am doing well.

Womnaleplus Fri 17-Jan-14 20:43:06

Baked beans have a shocking amount of sugar in.

I've just eaten a large bowl of live Greek yoghurt, cream and chopped up strawberries, which really felt like dessert. Very indulgent.

As of Monday, I am also going to be dropping wheat. I've been really pleased with my efforts so far in terms of weight loss (will be doing another weigh in on Sunday but lost 3lbs after the first week), but losing less on the old belly than I'd like.

Really impressed with everyone's sticking power. For me, I think the fact that it's so simple has really helped me stay with it. Rather than a whole long list if dos and don'ts, the simple, "Does it have sugar in it? Yes? Then no thank you" has made it easier for me to make healthy choices.

HearMyRoar Sat 18-Jan-14 07:34:31

Vogel's bread has no added sugar and is super yum. Even dh says he doesnt like other bread now as it taste of nothing.

I eat a lot of nuts and dairy. Had brie on pumpkin seed ryvita last night instead of usual Friday night chocolate and it was lovely. Felt creamy and indulgent enough. Also found kettle chips lightly salted only have potato, salt and sunflower oil in so had some of them as a Friday treat.

I agree won, it is at least nice and simple in terms of rules. I also find that much easier.

Went to the dentist and didn't even need a clean, sure not eating any sugar for 2 weeks has to have helped there. Also my skin is really starting to look much better. Yay!

Womnaleplus Sun 19-Jan-14 09:07:42

Well, I have lost 5lbs since the beginning of January. Very pleased.

ProfPlumSpeaking Sun 19-Jan-14 09:26:29

Ah, I have checked the bread I eat and it has no sugar (sourdough) so I can carry on eating it with butter and fried tomatoes :-)

I haven't lost any weight but as my BMI is already 21 I am not trying to particularly - I just want to be healthy. Also, I have realised I hardly ate any sugar in the first place.

Keep going, us!

Nettee Sun 19-Jan-14 10:05:05

Well done Womnaleplus. Profplum - if my bmi settles at 21 I will be thrilled! Do you feel any different?

I think that white bread pushes the same addictive buttons for me as sugar. I am doing fine avoiding sugar on the whole but have lapses on white bread, crackers etc. I wonder if it is the glucose that is released so quickly and whether I should cut out refined carbohydrates while I am at it.

I am definitely benefitting from giving up sugar though - I am less hungry and still losing weight steadily. Those glucose sweetened brownies last week though did set me back on that front! Definitely small amounts for treats only - not a big batch when I am the only one likely to eat them.....

Womnaleplus Sun 19-Jan-14 15:16:05

Nettee, I'm having exactly the same problem - I've not had any withdrawal issues because I'm still having white bread etc,

ProfPlumSpeaking Sun 19-Jan-14 15:42:13

Yes, I think I do feel healthier (but that may be in contrast to December where there seemed to be alcoholic drinks almost every day.)

Well done Nettee on the weight loss :-)

saysa Sun 19-Jan-14 15:49:04

Can I join you all? Have had an awful weekend of 'studying' which means sitting on my arse for 2 days, pretending to do work, and every time I go into the kitchen (to get a glass of water, to adjust the heating, whatever) I come out with some kind of biscuit or chocolate in my hand sad

Have read some of you say 'skinny fat' and think this is what I am... look skinny (ish) from the outside but have visions of all my organs being caked in horrible gunk. Haven't read all of the links that have been posted yet but will do now, hope to scare myself into success.

I would love some snack suggestions, ideally for things that can be kept in the cupboard (don't go fresh food shopping very often). Find it particularly hard in winter as I naturally go for carby / comforting stuff.

Well done to all of you so far!

Nettee Sun 19-Jan-14 18:43:42

Nuts and cheese seem to be the snacks of choice (this is not a calorie counting diet!). Personally if I am just grazing out of habit and am not genuinely hungry I try to go for celery or cherry tomatoes.

If I am hungry then cheese is very good or natural yogurt with some berries or recently crackers but I can defiantly eat too many of those. Or avocado or cream cheese speead on low sugar toast.

HearMyRoar Sun 19-Jan-14 19:32:19

Welcome saysa, almonds are particularly yum for snacking I think, alsi I am rather liking the pumpkin and oat ryvita, which even dh thinks are nice. Carrot sticks and humous are always good. Carrots last for ages in the fridge so I usually buy a massive bag of them every now and again. For the first couple of weeks I ate a lot of bread but I'm trying to reduce that now I am past the worst.

gingangoolie1 Mon 20-Jan-14 14:21:27

Oh dear - off the wagon big time yesterday. DS's b'day party & I couldn't resist the cake. One slice lead to another. Enjoyed it v much at the time, but bizarrely tummy was very sore all last night, and "chocolate" hangover-type headache this morning.

After 2 weeks no sugar/wheat, can't believe how dreadful it has made me feel. Sugar cravings back today big time.

So really regret having the cake now ....

ProfessorDent Mon 20-Jan-14 15:28:34

Drink lots of warm water.

I found that the Greek-style yoghurt (Total is best it seems) with Pret's Naked Nuts (£1) and Tesco berries did wean me off the daily chocolate habit pretty much, so I recommend that.

saysa Mon 20-Jan-14 17:16:44

Thank you - read somewhere about brushing your teeth straight after a meal, as that's when I tend to reach for something sweet, and that worked yesterday. Might need to stock up on toothpaste though...

Nettee Mon 20-Jan-14 18:55:54

I tried some sourdough bread today which tasted ok but didn't push my sugar buttons like normal white bread does so I am leaning towards the sugar in the bread being the problem rather than the bread itself.

Gingangooglie - hope you got through today's cravings alright - quite a scary story how quickly they can come back.

I had fajitas yesterday before checking the label which listed sugar as the first ingrediant in the spice mix blush

gingangoolie1 Tue 21-Jan-14 11:31:51

Thanks Nettee for support. Got through yesterday - just. Actually no - had 5 chocolate fingers before I went to bed. Old habits coming back. Why oh why?

Can't believe so much sugar in fajita spice mix....

mulberrybag Wed 22-Jan-14 22:03:04

I'm still here and going strong ish. Lost the thread and couldn't find you all! Have had just over two weeks 98% sugar free and the heart racing panic attack like feelings I was having I think due to going cold turkey have slowly diminished. Skin not a massive amount of improvement but hoping that will come. Can't believe how much sugar there is hidden in literally everything, total eye opener. I am being viewed as a bit of a faddy nut case at work but they'll come around in sure! Well done everyone who's still going strong.

SomewhatSilly Wed 22-Jan-14 22:06:34

Mulberry, what are you eating/not eating, may I ask? Fruit, dairy, wheat? Only asking because those are all still on my menu and I'm finding the next step (which for me is giving up wheat) quite hard to take.

SomewhatSilly Wed 22-Jan-14 22:07:06

Oh, it's Wom here btw. Was time for a name change!

zestypears Thu 23-Jan-14 13:03:47

Hello all! Without realising, I had just started a similar-ish thread in Weight Loss Chat asking for success stories about giving up sugar so here I am! I truly have an addiction and I need to quit. It won't be easy but I am out of alternatives! I'm going to look at the Potatoes not Prozac book now and I am going to go cold turkey on processed sugar in the form of:

- chocolate
- sweets
- ice cream
- cake
- sugar in coffee (I don't have it in tea)

I don't eat bread or drink fruit juice and rarely have wine these days. I do eat an apple, banana or some tangerines each day and I'm going to carry on with that. If I have yoghurt or cheese I'll stick to full fat ones and avoid anything that says low fat (as it just means high in crap!!)

I am DESPERATE to lose some weight and get rid of this constant bloat. Nothing fits me any more and I refuse to buy larger clothes!!!

Nettee Thu 23-Jan-14 13:09:39

Good luck zesty pears. Expect some head aches and cravings for a week or so but then it is really not so bad.

Having said that I am feeling a bit frustrated today as the weight loss has slowed right down and I am eating too much bread and too many nuts. I was hoping to break my snacking habits as a by product of giving up sugar but perhaps it is still early days?

Also I know I am going to be offered pudding at a lunch party next week and I don't think I can turn down something that someone has made for me. As a one off it should be alright shouldn't it? as long as I don't have seconds?

Dilidali Thu 23-Jan-14 13:37:50

I'm joining you.
It works, I stopped biscuits..... Then I had one with a coffee and it tasted VILE.
I'll read back to see how you all do it.

MrsFrankTurner Thu 23-Jan-14 14:17:32

I'm in too after being on Zestys thread:-)

I'm 23 days in -no processed carbs, sugars or booze; I use xylitol & agave in baking and have gone cold turkey on sugar in tea etc.......hardest thing was giving up the diet cokes (no aspartame for me either)

The no sugar is a long term goal for me so not just January as I'm trying to set a good example to DS's but I won't be a food nazi either so if they want the occasional chocolate bar etc they can have it!

However-the booze amnesty is only until I've done the spring marathon grin

DH bakes all his own bread so uses Wholemeal flour or rice flour and agave to activate the yeast-so far so good and I made some stealth sugar free brownies & truffles for DS1's birthday tea with the family on Sunday and they got through unnoticed (mind you -they were also provided with scones, ginger cake and lemon shortbread so were probably all on a sugar high!!)

Glad to read through the thread and see people are doing what works for them smile

SomewhatSilly Thu 23-Jan-14 14:38:00

Nettee, hate to say it but wheat is a pretty potent appetite stimulant <says she after a cheese toastie>

mulberrybag Thu 23-Jan-14 17:43:46

SomewhatSilly, hi
Im pretty much no dairy anyway ( until faced with cheese and crackers), have had the occasional slice of wholemeal toast and absolutely no processed carbs. I thought i would feel amazing but last few days have had an impressive outbreak of spots last few days and feel quite disheartened as I was pretty convinced that sugar was behind my teenage like skin trouble. Spent 6 months on a nasty acne treatment with grim side effects and no diagnosis apart from Oh well it just affects some women, and had beautiful skin but wanted to find a cause and a non awful treatment. Thought I'd nailed it with giving up sugar but perhaps it's hormonal and I'll just have to get over the fact I never going to be make up free and glowing

mulberrybag Thu 23-Jan-14 17:47:27

Btw no fruit, no juice and one glass of wine. Avocado smoothy with rice milk for breakfast. ...I should look dewy flawless and plmp skinned....shouldn't I?

SomewhatSilly Thu 23-Jan-14 18:03:30

Hmm. Have you thought about wheat?

You are impressively disciplined!

SomewhatSilly Thu 23-Jan-14 18:06:58
mulberrybag Thu 23-Jan-14 18:28:29

Im very close to opening the vodka hiding in the freezer and killing myself slowly with an overdose of chocolate!

HearMyRoar Thu 23-Jan-14 19:51:49

Hi to all the new people and welcome to the thread! grin

mulberry I found my skin started improving around the 2 week mark but I only had a few spots, it's just I never wear makeup so even a few is horrid, plus I looked to pale and ergh (technical term for you there). Definitely have a better colour now.

Though, the best thing I have found is that over the last few days I have been so much more focused. I've got loads done at work and feel sort of rejuvenated. This is despite dd suddenly having an attack of nightmares so sod all sleep for the past week.

I'm also coming to the conclusion that I am mildly lactose intolerant and that potatoes are not my friend. Noticed that I feel much less bloated apart from when I have lots of diary or potatoes, then I get stomach cramps and terrible bubbly belly (another technical term). I'm trying out lactose free milk which does seem to be better but I think I really need to consider giving up potatoes. Oh dear.

zestypears Thu 23-Jan-14 23:40:53

Well, today is my first day (I'm not in the uk). Usually I will skip breakfast but I have had a boiled egg with a sugar free coffee. The coffee tastes fine, I have no idea why I've been putting sugar in it!

Chicken salad and some fruit for lunch today, as I said though I'm fine in the daytime but plonk me in front of the tv in the evening and by default I reach for sugar. So we will have to see what happens tonight as that is when the real test starts!

I've downloaded tons of samples of kindle books about stopping eating sugar so I'll have a read through this morning.

Must say I am surprised by those who say they haven't lost weight, or their skin is worse, or they don't feel any different. I'm hoping for miracles here haha!

Nettee Fri 24-Jan-14 07:26:58

Right I am going to have to quit white flour as well to include white bread and white pasta. See if it makes a difference. I need a time line for that one I think - I can do a week for a start!

I thought my skin had improved but currently it is not very good again.

MrsFrankTurner Fri 24-Jan-14 08:35:16

Nettee: I quit all the white stuff too -I run so need the carbs but go for slow release stuff like Wholemeal pasta etcsmile

Facing first big test today as have a horrid heavy cold hmm I am a feed a cold/starve a fever kinda lass so would usually be curled up on the sofa mainlining hot chocolate & hot, white buttered toast.......not sure sugarless tea and cashew nuts are going to quite hit the spot grin

invicta Fri 24-Jan-14 21:47:27

I've joust fallen of the wagon, so to speak, due to sickness. Somehow, lettuce ned tomatoes didn't cut the mustard such as biscuits and lucozde. I'll try again tomorrow.

SomewhatSilly Sun 26-Jan-14 08:29:03

I am very pleased to report that I am now under 11st for the first time in years! by about half a pound

How's everyone else getting on? Shall we continue this thread into feb or would we like a shiny new one?

HearMyRoar Sun 26-Jan-14 08:49:30

Yay! Well done somewhat grin

I'm happy to continue this thread unless we want to be month specific. It sort of feels wasteful to finish a thread with 791 posts unused. Though obviously this is completely irrational of me.

MrsFrankTurner Sun 26-Jan-14 09:18:48

Yay well done somewhat that's awesomesmile

I am finding the physical detox wearing -2nd cold of the year in the space of 3 weeks but I'm hoping it's all a good sign that my body is working to get rid of toxins-it also shows how much shit unhealthy food & drink I was shovelling in before!

grin At "wasteful":-) maybe we should start a thread about the harmful effects of wasteful threads on the well being of mumsnet chat wink

SomewhatSilly Mon 27-Jan-14 07:40:05

Think we need to attract some new recruits - it's blooming difficult, this no sugar thing!

gingangoolie1 Mon 27-Jan-14 11:19:25

Am back with you after a very bad week. Boo. Felt so good before when I was 16 days no sugar / wheat, so lets see if I can find the internal motivation / will power to stick with it this time. The 4lbs I lost is now back on, plus an extra 1lb for good measure.

Somewhatsilly - well done you. Under 11 stone is my goal (12 st 12 at the moment - SHOCK HORROR). Can't believe I have let myself go.

MrsFT - hope you are feeling better ...

saysa Mon 27-Jan-14 12:31:32

This isn't easy is it, and I'm only trying to conquer the obviously sweet stuff so far. Trying to drink water everytime I want something sweet, so I'm drinking more which is a plus...

Somewhatsilly well done you, that's great!

SomewhatSilly Mon 27-Jan-14 12:39:05

Hey gingang, welcome back on the wagon! Do you think you would have a better time just focusing on the sugar first?

HearMyRoar Mon 27-Jan-14 19:22:44

I got complemented today on my amazingly healthy lunch. Felt very smug. I think they thought I was mad though when I said it was healrhy because I had stopped eating anything with sugar in and that only really left healthy stuff. grin

Glad to see you back gingang. It is hard but focus on how good it feels when you are sugar free.

I discovered how to make sugar free custard in the microwave last night so had a big bowl of custard with sultanas and bananas to get me through a huge pudding craving. It was yum! grin

MrsFrankTurner Mon 27-Jan-14 19:42:17

Sugar free custard? Oh please share -I love love love bananas & custard (pmt plus a cold = grumpy & hungry MrsFT!)

HearMyRoar Mon 27-Jan-14 20:30:28

I used this recipe for babies but with an extra egg yolk and a good splash of vanilla essence as I don't have any paste. I put the saltanas and sliced banana in after I'd cooked it a little bit but not completly so they had a blast in thr microwave too and were nice and warm.

SomewhatSilly Mon 27-Jan-14 22:55:40

Ooh, that looks tasty.

Anyone else finding their sensitivity to sweet tastes is increasing? I keep thinking someone's slipped sugar into my coffee because I can now taste the natural sweetness of the milk.

zestypears Tue 28-Jan-14 03:50:39

Hello again!

Well, I am not too sure if I'm doing well or not so well - I haven't actually been out and bought anything with sugar in, and I've told DH that we are in fact never ever buying the disgusting concoction they call bread here ever again... BUT I have been eating sugary things (essentially chocolate that we already had), because I am loathe to throw out out or to give it all to DH and watch him stuff his face! I reckon that all the supplies will be depleted in the next few days blush so I can start 'properly' then. Anyway that's the only reason that I've been a little quiet the last few days, because I thought I'd get told off for refusing to bin the choc!! grin

Someone mentioned about starting a new thread for Feb and someone else mentioned that it'd be good to add to our ranks - may I suggest that we do start a new thread on the 1st? I think new people are more likely to join a new thread than feel comfortable wading in to a long existing one, perhaps?

I'm actually going to get a little deep now, apologies in advance...

As well as the cutting out on sugar, I want to do some serious self-improvement this year as there are things which I feel I'm lazy about and want to improve. (99% of which come under the 'taking care of and pride in myself' umbrella). So, I've just written out a list of things that "the person I'd like to be" would do (if that makes sense?!), and ordered a new 2014 diary and I'm going to write out this list at the front of it. I'm hoping that by acting the way I want to be, I will soon be the way I act (horribly misquoting someone there, I know!). I am sure that improving my mood, appetite and energy levels through lowering my sugar consumption will be key to this!

Gosh, this is long isn't it. Sorry blush

Dilidali Tue 28-Jan-14 06:49:40

zesty, that makes absolute sense, you go!!!

I had a sugar free fast day yesterday, god I'm addicted!!!! I couldn't waste precious calories on sugar, as you do, but I craved it constantly. Hmmmmm.

Toowittoowoo Tue 28-Jan-14 13:46:55

Can I join? Coming to the sugar free party rather late but it has taken me a while to pluck up the courage!

Before I start - what is the general consensus about the odd treat? You see it is my birthday in Feb and DH and DD have been planning my cake for a while so don't feel I can decline. I will however request that it is a small cake so it doesn't hang around looking tempting.

On a similar note has any found any sugar free bakes? I've tried to read the whole thread so sorry if I missed them but someone was mentioning banana bread earlier in the thread and a recipe for that would be great. I don't really buy much sweet stuff but I do bake once a week so if I could find tasty sugar free bakes then I would be sorted.

Also what are the sugar free snacks of choice? I am personally very fond of a hard boiled egg! Nuts give me the fear as we have been trained for years that they are so calorific. Are other people over coming that fear? Dh loves those spicy flavoured seeds and nuts (seed doctor?) But as they are so expensive I have bought some ordinary nuts and seeds from aldi and have challenged hime to come up with his own spice mix. Might work!

HearMyRoar Tue 28-Jan-14 19:39:29

Well, you've convinced me zesty new thread it is! <bangs gavel>

I definitely think you can make the decision to be a happier or 'better' person to a degree. I like your idea of writing it down so you have it in black and white. I did a sort of self assessment a couple of years ago and did a similar sort of thing. Some things were deciding to do something (or not do something), so I decided I would eat better and also that I would just stop being angry about things that I couldn't change. It was very liberating to stop being stressed when I accidentally broke something or things were crap at work.

I also realised that there were some things about me that I just couldn't change. I would love to be a super sociable person who could make small talk and have loads of friends but I have accepted that I just am not that person and that actually that's OK. Trying to be something I am not and failing was just making me feel shit about myself, I am much happier now I have found peace with myself a bit on that one.

Mmm.. Anyway, back to the sugar business grin

I will have no telling off on this thread, that is the 1st rule of Sugar Free Club. So no feeling bad if you have a moment and scoff loads of chocolate or whatever. Feeling crappy about it will only make it harder and it is difficult enough.

And I think we are all agreed that there are certain situations when saying no to sugar is just not on. This counts as a social obligation rather then a treat in my book. Treats are not good because you can get into the habit of having them at any excuse, just because its Friday or you are feeling a bit rubbish. A social obligation is limited to situations when it would be really rather rude to not have some or it would result in some else being upset. Birthday cake is definitely at the top of the list. Special puddings made by grannies also falls in that category.

mulberrybag Tue 28-Jan-14 20:02:41

I love it " sugar few club" how cool smile
I'm still going, struggled last few days but definitely getting my head around being sugar free as a life choice instead of it just being a one off month. Well done everyone, keep on in there.

mulberrybag Tue 28-Jan-14 20:03:36

Oops..... bloody auto correct...*sugar Free club!

helloeverything Tue 28-Jan-14 20:37:17

Hello, i'd like to join you. I've been sugar free for at least two weeks but im still finding it hard. Im now realising the extent of my addiction. I have to say no to some form of sugar at least six times a day, so i must have been eating it six times a day.
I've been feeling hypo glycaemic, swooning, excessive thirst, and worst of all no weight loss!
I'm figuring i'll have to do something else to lose weight but for now i'm just trying to kick the habit.

HearMyRoar Tue 28-Jan-14 20:42:12

Hi hello I wouldn't worry about losing weight for at least the first few weeks. Just get through the withdrawals and then you will find your appetite settling down. Also I had a lot of water retention in the first couple weeks, it was a bit horrifying but if you just get through this bit it does get better.

zestypears Tue 28-Jan-14 23:57:05

<Waves at helloeverything and toowittoowoo> Welcome to the Sugar Free Club!

HearMyRoar I think you have it absolutely spot on with "social obligation sugar" - SOS for short! I think the reason I have tried and failed with diets and ways of eating before is because they are so absolute - no room for flexibility. But we all live in the real world and there will be occasions like birthdays and Great Aunty Mabel's home baking, where it'd be rude and/or difficult to avoid a piece of cake or whatever. But I think we need to make sure these SOS situations are acknowledged for what they are and that we don't make excuses to have them every day, as you say.

As for me... well last night (it's Wednesday morning here now!) I polished off ALL my remaining chocolate and ice-cream. It was so tough wink but I did it for you lot grin

I also went to the shop with DH, he is such a sugar addict too (but exercises like mad so he can get away with it) - he piled the basket high with sugar and I stuck to salad, fish and fruit! grin I was so proud of myself! Another small win yesterday was I completely avoided the biscuit box at work - and today it's a little easier because I think, I did it yesterday so I can do it today too!

Can't wait to get home to my new diary smile

marzipananimal Wed 29-Jan-14 07:34:19

I am interested in joining you, but a bit scared as I've tried to give up sugar before and failed miserably. I ended up fantasising about sweet things all the time and feeling like I had no pleasure left in life! I've found olives are a good snack when I have the munchies. Any more suggestions?

helloeverything Wed 29-Jan-14 17:22:50

Hmmm, maybe need to eat crisps or other bad sugar-free treats until the cravings die down. I'm planning on cutting down refined carbs but NOT YET!
I'm very bloated still, hoping this will subside. Have lost 1.5 kilos though, and feeling slightly less ratty. Apart from the withdrawal, this fits in with your life well, because you can eat out or at a friends without stressing, unlike most other diets.
.
Maybe a way to deal with birthday cakes and other SOS is to say you'll have some in a minute and then forget about it. Its easier than declining.

HearMyRoar Wed 29-Jan-14 17:54:15

I think it helps if you work out the times when you habitually eat sugar and then make sure you plan in advance what you will have instead. If its usually a big sugar fest time (for me this was Friday nights which were film and chocolate night) make sure your sugar free alternative is something a bit decadent like some really good cheese, sugar free custard and fruit, nuts, or some plain salted crisps. That way you don't feel so deprived.

BerylsDailyKumquat Wed 29-Jan-14 18:19:47

Hello ladies, well done your month is almost up - I'm very very impressed with you all. I seriously need to have another try at going sugar free so am glad to see you're planning on starting a new Feb thread. I will definitely be back in and I will try my very hardest to last longer than 11 days this time blush. Please tell me it gets easier...it was a constant up hill battle last time and I just couldn't face life without sweet treats, but this has made me realise the extent of my addiction and I really need to try and crack it!

helloeverything Wed 29-Jan-14 19:38:21

I have to say that for me the worse the withdrawal, the more i realise what a terrible addiction i have. Its helping me want to kick it!

Dosey Wed 29-Jan-14 21:41:49

Hi there I am delurking as I need some motivation. I gave sugar up on 10th january and found when I got to the 10th day it got so hard. I tried again from Monday. And so far doing ok. Though I bought a tub of full fat mango and passion fruit yoghurt which I had for tea tonight. It wasn't until I had eaten a big bowl full that I read how much sugar was in it. I just thought since it wasn't low fat in wouldn't be full of sugar.

I guess I have a lot to learn.

I am following the rules of the thread whereby if its rude to say no then I shall eat it. I also love fruit and don't want to give that up. What I do want to be able to do is to have something sweet without following it up with a massive binge session.

I am also drinking lots of hot water and lemon and can't help wondering if this somehow cheating.

I have felt a right moody mare today, is this part of the process ?

How long do you think it takes for it to feel normal and to get this addiction out of my system.

Sorry for the long post, but this is hard!

One hurdle I got over today was somebody at work brought in rocky road and I didn't have any. It's too early days to trust myself. I know I would have had a piece, got a taste of chocolate then gone to the corner shop and binged on a load of cheap goodies. I want to be able to have a slice a rocky road and stop there.

Goodness me I have got a load of my chest tonight. My name is Dosey and I am a complete sugar addict.

zestypears Thu 30-Jan-14 03:35:53

Well, yesterday was my first proper sugar-free day - lots of eggs and veg! And then this morning I weighed myself and I have put ON 2lbs since Saturday, say what?! shock I'm not expecting miracles but I'd hope that the sugar bloat would go down, my tummy resembles a big doughy mess right now so if sugar-free doesn't improve matters then I won't be happy!!! sad

Fairyloo Thu 30-Jan-14 06:10:50

Hi everyone! Just seen this thread. I have also given up sugar as a lifestyle choice.

I am nearly three weeks, no sugar, no white carbs, no processed food.

The reality is i don't feel that much better, I thought I would be brimming with health and full of energy but I just feel the same. Also no bloody weight loss.

All seems a bit pointless confusedconfused anyone else

SomewhatSilly Thu 30-Jan-14 07:21:17

To those experiencing bloating/lack of weightless - have you considered there might be something else in your diet causing this?

Eg I've lost a decent amount of weight but my awful belly looks exactly the same. However, when I've cut out wheat in the past, the belly has been the first thing to go. So wheat is a big one for me, in any form (and so, so hard to give up!).

Another common issue is dairy - if you look on the low carb threads, some people lose weight very successfully whilst still eating some dairy, whereas others need to cut it right out. Dairy produces an insulin response in the body, which I believe is the cause.

Now I'm not suggesting we all dash out and give up everything immediately - certainly my plan is (at the moment!) continue with the sugar free thing on its own until I'm no longer seeing any weight loss, and then have a go excluding wheat. But for those not seeing any results, you might want to experiment for a few days?

And welcome back Beryl! Tis womnale, was time for a nc to something that actually made sense grin

SomewhatSilly Thu 30-Jan-14 07:30:17

Dosey, tbh I'm not sure how long it takes for the cravings to disappear. I think the physical cravings go quite quickly, but the psychological ones last!

zestypears Thu 30-Jan-14 10:14:57

I know what you mean about it might be because of something else, Silly. But I'm the same as Dosey, "a complete sugar addict". Every day, I will have biscuits at work. I'll come home and have a pot of ice cream, some cookies, and a bar of chocolate after work. (Or similar!). Every day. Now I'm stopping those biscuits, cakes, chocolates. That is a huge drop in my calories, sugar, all sorts. I don't see how it can be possible that I won't lose weight, lose my bloaty belly, or not feel better thanks to fewer insulin spikes and crashes. I mean surely!!

Dosey Thu 30-Jan-14 20:25:05

Hi there, well I feel much better today. No sugar today except in the form of an apple and a banana. I gave the kids rice pudding after their tea and was surprised how much sugar there is in there. I had natural Greek yoghurt which did the job. I have had a day at home surrounded but biscuits and chocolates and have been tempted all. Maybe it has finally clicked. I have been in a much better mood too.

It could be a different story tomorrow, I am going to my mums and she's told me she's done a load of baking today and her baking is lush!

If I can get by with just having her treats and not coming home to binge, I will be very happy

HearMyRoar Thu 30-Jan-14 20:32:11

I found the worst of the craving, water retention and bloating went by about 3 weeks. I do now feel loads better except when I eat potatoes, then I feel all bloated and horrid within minutes. So maybe as somewhat says it is something else that is disagreeing with you. Also I was eating quite a bit of sugar but if you were eating loads it may take longer to get it out your system and for your body to get over the shock of going cold turkey.

I'm sorry to say but I don't think giving up sugar is a weightloss miracle in itself, but I do believe you will find it easier to lose weight if you do not have sugar in your diet. If that makes sense. My appetite has settled down so much, I no longer feel the need to binge and if I do eat lots in one go I am then feeling full for longer rather then just wanting to eat loads again soon after.

I've been pretty much eating what I like in the first month, loads of nuts, dairy and bread, so I dont really expect to have lost much weight. Next month, now I feel more stable, I will reduce these things pretty easily I think so will expect a bit more weight loss then.

SomewhatSilly Fri 31-Jan-14 08:49:59

Just checking in to log my one month weight loss - 9lbs!

I did remember that I forgot to mention I am breastfeeding, which obviously helps. But I'm v pleased. Roll on sugar free feb! I'm trying to get my DSis on board too - sugar dependence is strong in our genes...

Had mega mega cravings last night. Partly because I've almost finished my original target, but also because yesterday was fairly stressful. I had half a pack of figs. Let's be honest, that's quite a lot of sugar! Just masquerading as a healthy treat. Goal for next month has to be to stop relying on sweet comfort foods.

zestypears Sat 01-Feb-14 06:02:40

Happy February! Are we having a nice shiny new thread?!

I woke up today feeling like I had a terrible hangover and yet I hadn't been drinking! Wonder if that's due to the lack of sugar? Or maybe I'm not drinking enough water etc? One to ponder!

SomewhatSilly Sat 01-Feb-14 09:51:40

Shiny new thread here

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