Healthy Revolutionaries!

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BloodiedGhouloshes Wed 16-Oct-13 09:42:30

Oh Okay, hardly original. smile

But describes us all. smile

Me today,

B- apple, yogurt, cashew nuts and honey
L- salmon and salad
D- honey sesame chicken legs with a greek salad.


MillyMillyMe Wed 16-Oct-13 10:11:04's changed..
carot ginger and butternut squash soup
lots of M & S Belgium Biscuits ( special offer two boxes for £7.00
small portion homemade curry and popadom
couple of glasses Celebration Shloer and salty mixed nutssmile

BloodiedGhouloshes Wed 16-Oct-13 10:32:17

Hello Milly!

BloodiedGhouloshes Wed 16-Oct-13 10:32:24

Great new name!

MillyMillyMe Wed 16-Oct-13 10:37:56

well thankyou. grin

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Wed 16-Oct-13 13:45:04

<twirl> <not wanting to feel left out>
Thanks Ghouloshes
Great new name Milly and yummy food for you yesterday.

Yesterday I had shreddies for breakfast, instant pad Thai a d a yogurt ad piece of rubbishy asda birthday cake for lunch and chocolate coated raisins and a yogurt for dinner. Snacks: 1 glass wine, 1 bag of walkers whole grain crisp things, a spoonful (almost) of chocolate brownie mix blush

Today I am fasting and have had black coffee and white coffee. I. Plan to have soup for supper. I thought I was going to given and eat earlier but ok now, just kept busy.
Off to make another cake. (honestly, there is no end to this)
Onwards and downwards FRs.

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 16-Oct-13 17:22:30

<checks in, looks at title, runs back out>

BloodiedGhouloshes Wed 16-Oct-13 18:26:26

Come BACK Hazel

[stamps foot]

[waggles finger].

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Wed 16-Oct-13 21:09:31

Having a good time hazel?

Fasting day for me.
Black coffee, white coffee, can of spicy tomato and rice soup, options hot choc x2, tea with s milk.

LegoCaltrops Wed 16-Oct-13 23:09:08

I can't think of a scary name for Halloween! <plaintive> What is scary, however, is how much I've spent on 2 pairs of boots in the last couple of days. Erm. A lot. one pair black leather knee boots (last year's style, from Clarkes, so a bit reduced.) lovely but fairly plain. One pair of wine-red suede Diesel ankle boots from TK Maxx. They are so beautiful they don't belong on the ground! I can't afford any more shoes until hell freezes over... new year next month at least.

Failed at my fasting day yesterday. DD simply would not eat an unfamiliar thing, (chicken salad sandwich from Greggs) in an unfamiliar place, when she could see I wasn't eating as well. So I had to 'encourage her' by having a couple of mouthfuls. But, I have discovered she will eat lettuce if it's got mayonnaise on! And I fasted today so it wasn't a big problem actually.

I really want to get below 9 stone. <determined> grr.


MillyMillyMe Wed 16-Oct-13 23:41:16

You can do it Lego
I want to lose a stone but its not happening. I can maintain which im glad about and don't gain but would like to see the scales go downward. Im going to have to listen to my PM Cd and re read the rules and do them more mindfully.
piece of toast with salty butter and Bon M Jam
homebaked ham in maple and coke with leaves, grapes, cheese and mayo
braised beef in wine with veg and Tesco finest horseradish (love that stuff)
3 M&S biscuits
3 mini Cadbury chocolate bars

BloodiedGhouloshes Thu 17-Oct-13 02:25:16

Morning all. Can't sleep. The boots both sound really lovely, Lego. I can never find boots to fit me. I have fairly slim thighs, but large calves and the zips never go up!

In the end I could not be bothered to cook dinner for myself so made the Dcs theirs and ate tinned spaghetti on hot buttery toast. Mmmm.

Must be a better revolutionary today!!!!

Onwards and Downwards Fellow Revolutionaries!

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Thu 17-Oct-13 06:47:39

Morning FRs

Legowell done on your fast. And your boots. They sound fab. I really really want a pair of plain, flat knee night boots so will be twisting DH's arm for that purchase. You will drop the weight. You're doing so well.

LeGhostCalles-Trappes??? It's tenuous, it's clumsy, but after turning Lego into LeGhost I felt I needed to use the French for caltrops. Ok, it's early and I've been up through the night with a teething, feeding baby.

Milly I am craving beef and horseradish now grin

Nothing wrong with spaghetti on toast Ghouloshes <hungry now>

Hazelbrowneyes Thu 17-Oct-13 08:16:26

Yesterday I had:
B - croissant AND pain au chocolat
L - Brie & bread
D - 1/2 pizza
S - half a bar of Lindt sea salt & a bottle of wine

Drank half a bottle of the wine whilst the speedboat was anchored near the beach & the other half sat on the yacht watching the sun go down. I do not want to go home. It's beautiful here.

Other food I've scoffed since Saturday:
Meringue (for breakfast)
Lots of pain au chocolat
Lots of croissants
Lots of chocolate
Lots of cheese
Lots of bread
Reasonable amount of pizza
Ham & mozzarella salad
1.5 of the sharing bags of crisps

Off to Antibes today to talk to the captain of a yacht. DHs ex girlfriend lives in Antibes and seeing as I've already bumped into her once this year, I'm taking no chances so need to look fabulous...I'd better get cracking!

MillyMillyMe Thu 17-Oct-13 22:27:05

Oooooooo Hazel your are very brave going to see DH ex!!!


scrambled egg in salty butter
coffee and Green and Blacks Butterscotch chocolate
Homemade Chicken kiev with garlic herb and parsley butter
chopped potatoes in skins baked in olive oil, garlic, herbs, red pepper and onions
small piece of Black Forrest Gateaux
Vintage cheddar, grapes and one digestive and glass of Celebration Shloer

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 18-Oct-13 10:44:08

Ah Milly, not that brave! Didn't purposefully go to meet her, she just works & lives here (lucky cow) and as we work in the same industry, there is always a chance we'll bump into her. Luckily we didn't!

Yesterday's food:
B - pain au chocolat (just one!)
L - cheese, meats, bread
D - spinach & ricotta tortellini
S - shocking number of biscuits, loads of olives & a reasonable amount of wine.

Last full day down here today. Feeling a bit blue to be honest, it's lovely here, the weather has been fab & I need another week. Although I've been the Mosquitos favourite evening snack so I won't miss that grin

MillyMillyMe Fri 18-Oct-13 20:56:09

Quiet thread


2 eggs scrambled in salty butter
I piece toast with salty butter

some mixed nuts
coffee with vanilla and 2 lines of Green and Black Sea Salt Chocolate
small piece homemade chicken white wine cream and mushroom pie

cups of tea

BloodiedGhouloshes Sat 19-Oct-13 07:12:53

had a bad day yesterday- out for Chinese with friends and ate ALOT, then toast and lots of butter for dinner.

MillyMillyMe Sun 20-Oct-13 22:34:19

Somerset brie and Mixed olives in flavoured herb oil

Out with DH to favourite Cantonese
Had Duck with Pancakes
Prawns in honey lemon sauce
Chicken in Black Bean sauce
fried noodles
egg fried rice

3 Fox Thick Chocolate busciuts

LegoCaltrops Mon 21-Oct-13 09:11:10

I have a cold, caught it from DD. Feel dreadful. Have spent the last day eating biscuits as I CBA to cook. We had chicken tikka last night, made by DH. Was lovely but I didn't eat much as couldn't taste it really. On the plus side, I usually lose weight when I'm not well as I lose my appetite. Every cloud!

DD has recently started talking. She has just learnt the word 'no'. 'tis a bad day when your child learns they can defy you... grin

MillyMillyMe Mon 21-Oct-13 11:48:06

Haha. Lego poor you....what a word to say first eh!!

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Mon 21-Oct-13 12:12:05

I am snacking like a fat toddler at a birthday party.
Should have fasted today. Feel miserable now.
Be back when I can speak with more smugness.

LegoCaltrops Mon 21-Oct-13 13:12:23

It's ok Amanda. In the last 2 days I've eaten: Chicken Tikka & salad (homemade by DH), sandwich made with the leftovers (healthy but on white bread which will play havoc with my IBS later), Nesquik chocolate milk, & at least a pack of chocolate Hobnobs quite a few chocolate biscuits. And a yoghurt.

Not gone to work as a) I feel crap, & b) DH hernia playing up, also due to his cold, so he can't look after DD this afternoon. He is getting it fixed next week though, cross fingers the hospital don't cancel the operation again. Was supposed to be last week. He is getting worse, I'll be furious if they do cancel it again.

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Mon 21-Oct-13 13:19:22

Poor lego I wish you lived closer then you leave dd here in the "crèche" and you could get all better.

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Mon 21-Oct-13 13:21:34

Right. I need to move. Live in s London. Where to?
Nice, quieter than here, good to bring up DCs.
Please choose.

MillyMillyMe Mon 21-Oct-13 13:30:04

Porthmadog grin grin grin

MillyMillyMe Mon 21-Oct-13 13:31:52

Five mins from Beach, Low low crime, community, children can play out and it has that old fashioned quaintness to

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 21-Oct-13 15:23:57

South Coast of course! Plenty of airports to choose from (Gatwick, Heathrow, Southampton, Bournemouth), good rail links to London (and other places of course), lovely countryside and equally lovely seaside.

I have to live here for work but I love it here and I can't see myself ever moving. There is something really quite wonderful about just getting up and going to the beach, even on a wintry day. It's lovely to go for a walk, breathe in the sea air and then sometimes even go to the arcade thlblush. DH and I had a great evening in there playing on the 2p machines thlgrin

Lots to do on your doorstep - the New Forest, Paultons Park, villages to go and explore, the seaside (have I mentioned that?!), ferries to France and beyond, I could go on. I will infact, if you PM me :-P

One of the main things I love about living here is (and this sounds daft) you're never that far from a motorway. I live in a reasonably quiet village and the motorway is 5-7 minutes drive. That's it. I'm then connected to two major cities and obviously, further afield. Most people I know down here live a maximum of 10-15 minutes away from a motorway.

In all seriousness, it's important that you choose somewhere that suits you. For me, having family close by is important. I need the support network, even if my mother is a fruitloop. I like living in a village because it is easy to make friends (DH and I are not good at making friends yet we seem to have made loads of them in 4 years of living here!). The only thing that puts me off living here at the moment is whilst the primary schools are good, the feeder senior isn't. BUT I don't even have children yet & that could all change so I'm not too worried about that at the moment.

Happy to chat more about the joys of South Coast living, you know where I am thlsmile x

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 21-Oct-13 15:32:45

Oh, yes, food. Err. Do I have to?

Ok, I put on 2lbs whilst away which is not horrific considering the amount of cheese I consumed.

B – pain au chocolat
L – snacks so mainly chocolate and crisps
D – OMG. Right. Here goes.
Amuse Bouche: Liver and onion mousse (hate liver, loved this)
Starter: pike mousse in a butternut squash “soup” (really just a thick paste)
Main: rabbit
Dessert: deconstructed mojito with an after eight “cigar”
Gorgeous. All of it.

B – ham & cheese, pain au chocolat
L – 2 dairylea dipper pots
D – hamburger and fries courtesy of McDonalds
S – Indian curry crisps (amaze), bueno bar

B – none
L – tuna pasta
D – likely to be fish fingers and chips or egg, chips and beans
S – 1 packet of low fat crisps, 1 packet of mini cheddars, 1 wispa. Could soon be 2 packs of low fat crisps as I’m hungry.

Need to start again. Feeling crappy (especially after my DH said something that made me want to hit him with a shovel and bury him in the garden) about how I look so I need to start making an effort again. I feel revitalised after the holiday so I’m determined to get to a point where I’m happy again. Firstly, I need to get rid of the SEVENTEEN mosquito bites that currently adorn my body (and face, weep) and I need to do a food shop so we actually have food in the house.

I have made a doctors appointment as I keep getting reflux and it’s making my life bloody miserable. I’m 99% sure it’s stress related so I’m working on sorting that out. I’m seeing my life coach tomorrow as well so I can have a good chat with him about everything.

That’s enough long posts from me today. Big hugs to those who need them (and those who don’t because you can never have enough hugs, right?) xx

MillyRules Mon 21-Oct-13 15:45:13

Hazel what did DH say to you about the way you look that has made you feel bad about yourself? Not necessarily a bad thing though if it spurs you on to make the changes YOU want to....maybe....! Hazel...with regards to reflux, carby food can cause it and I find a lowish carb diet does get rid of it.

Where I live as you know is on the side of a mountain looking at the sea. Iydillic!...NO motor ways, no airports, nearest shops 10 minutes. Get snowed in every time it it. Very very very rural. Its like stepping back in time. Where Hazel lives sounds lovely too. We moved here from London about 15 years ago cause this is where DH comes from. He is Welsh speaking as is the area I live in. So probably not the best for someone to move too unless you want your children to become fluent Welsh speakers. I speak Welsh and my kids are fluent too. All the schools are Welsh and little if any English is spoken until Secondary school.

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 21-Oct-13 16:17:29

Milly He said I wasn't fanciable now I'd gone back to my natural hair colour and had to wear glasses angry He was drunk when he said it and after a day of ignoring him he said he didn't mean it like that but couldn't explain what he did mean hmm. I do see what he is saying to be honest - my glasses looked better with blonde hair but my hair was getting wrecked from the bleach. Removing the glasses is not an option as it's nice to be able to see. So I'm a bit buggered really. I need to experiment with make up a bit more as I know I look washed out with my hair darker.

The reflux is worse when I drink alcohol and eat heavy or rich meals. Really annoying.

Milly where you live sounds absolutely perfect. Sigh. Am jealous.

MillyRules Mon 21-Oct-13 16:27:46

Hazel trouble is they sort of do mean if when they are drunk don't they. The censor chip is off so to speak.
I have very warm blond hair and im naturally (20 years ago) dark brown. Hairs good condition and I colour it myself.
My husband prefers me blond too.

I live in North Wales near Caernarfon.

Re Reflux, Doctor cant really do anything other than give you strong tablets or something whereas you have just answered your own question. If you stopped alcohol, heavy and rich meals, you might find it a lot better????Maybe!!!!!

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 21-Oct-13 16:37:25

I know milly which is what made me quite upset. I know he meant it.

I don't want to cut out all the nice things in life though thlwink I've done a fair few of the self-care things mentioned on the NHS website and it's not making a massive difference at all. I'll get some antacids today if I ever get away from my desk and to the chemist before it closes!

MillyRules Mon 21-Oct-13 16:52:40

Do you think you would be happier being blond as well Hazel. I know I feel so much more attractive and "sexier" as a blond than I did as a brunette. I do think brunettes look sexy and attractive though, don't get me wrong, just that I always wanted to be a blond and it works for me.

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Mon 21-Oct-13 17:37:09

<hands Hazel a shovel> thlwink

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Mon 21-Oct-13 17:38:31

Go to the GP and get that checked btw. If it's an ulcer it will need treating with antibiotics.

BloodiedGhouloshes Mon 21-Oct-13 17:43:32

I am wondering about ulcers too. You have been under alot of stress lately Hazel and have had palpitations, sleepless nights etc. Might not hurt to go to the GP anyway.

MillyRules Mon 21-Oct-13 18:40:13

Not peri menopausal are you by any chance Hazel. That's one of the things you can get along with the palpitations, sleeplessnights, headaches, hot flushes, brain fog etc etc etc.

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 22-Oct-13 15:04:21

Ooh I hadn’t considered it could be an ulcer. Hmm. Will definitely get it checked.

Thanks for the shovel Amanda, not sure if I should dig a hole for him or hit him round the head with it thlwink

Milly I doubt I’m perimenopausal to be honest – I’m 27 thlsmile I know it can happen young but I’m fairly sure it’s just down to the stress – I can’t go into details as to what’s going on but it is all very stressful thlsmile

I’ve seen my lifecoach today and I feel better already. We went through a strange little task which is apparently meant to help me reprogram my brain to cope with what has happened over the last 6 months, am hoping it’ll work.

Just got to get back into the groove of eating well again. Oh and exercising.

Yesterday I had another bag of crisps (OMG!) and dinner was egg, chips, beans AND a fish finger. 3 glasses of wine too. Gulp.

B – boiled egg and toast
L – vegetable soup and a roll
D – will be takeaway, either Indian or fish & chips
S – 2 bags of low fat crisps (weep), 1 chocolate bar.

MillyRules Tue 22-Oct-13 17:22:00

O noooo 27 is wayyy to young. Too much ibuprofen can cause damage to the lining of the esophagus.

MillyRules Tue 22-Oct-13 17:22:45

Sorry Hazel that was for yourself. smile

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Tue 22-Oct-13 19:52:38

This week's food chez clarke
Crap, more crap, roast beef etc. crap, cake, biscuits, chocolate.
Sleep: none
Fasts so far: none blush
Weight: 47 stone thlgrin

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Tue 22-Oct-13 20:05:08

Oh Hazel I've been thinking about your reflux. Has it been worse since you've been on the Brie in st tropez?
Stress, high fat diet and alcohol consumption are all high risk factors for g.o reflux. Be prepared for your GP to advise you to lay off the sauce for a bit <sorry>.

MillyRules Tue 22-Oct-13 20:23:42

Yep I said the same Amanda......but Hazel doesn't want to lay off the sauce and rich food lol!!! smile

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Tue 22-Oct-13 20:56:18

Well I can understand that tbh.

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 22-Oct-13 21:16:30

Amanda, no not really worse since all the Brie. (Mmm, Brie)

I'm prepared for the doc to say lay off the booze & I'm happy to (well, as happy as one can be as the festive season approaches!) wink

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Tue 22-Oct-13 21:20:11


MillyRules Tue 22-Oct-13 22:16:27

ha ha!!

BloodiedGhouloshes Wed 23-Oct-13 13:38:09

Hello all.

Me today -

B- grapes, apple and two mini chicken kiev bites
L- pumpkin soup and an egg and cress sandwich
D- mushroom pie mashed sweet potato and green beans.

Mmm.... Brie. You have triggered a craving... [must resist must resist]

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Wed 23-Oct-13 18:24:33

Maybe it will help to record my food.
Here goes
B: muesli with s s milk. Coffee
L: too many cream crackers with cheese, cucumber, malted milk biscuit, chocolate digestive. Coffee
D: 1 sausage, small amt of mash, few spoons of beans. Lemon yogurt. Chocolate digestive
Snacks: few pistachios. Coffees and teas.
I am not eating "mindfully" and I haven't fasted this week. I am ridiculously tired. Just want some sleep really. Hey HO.
Must try harder grin
O&D FRs.

BloodiedGhouloshes Thu 24-Oct-13 07:03:35


Plan for today:

B- fruit and yoghurt
L- soup and a salad sandwich
D- spaghetti Bolognese with garlic bread made using half beef mince and half red lentils plus lots of other veg so the DCs are tricked into eating veg! And two glasses of red wine... one for dinner, one after they go to bed. Sigh. I feel tired already!

BloodiedGhouloshes Thu 24-Oct-13 14:26:45

Hi FRs. smile

I am conducting a self-imposed MN ban. I have managed to waste my whole morning on one of the AF threads when I really ought to be working. Will have to catch up over the weekend now. sad. So, I am banning myself until Monday. I need to engage with RL for a bit!

Hope everyone is fine and well. See you all soon.

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Thu 24-Oct-13 15:49:13

I know ghouloshes I have been punctuating my whole day with Anyfucker business.
Will miss you esteemed leader.
Catch up soon

MillyRules Thu 24-Oct-13 19:08:25

ha ha!!! Ladies, I am the same. On here far too often. Its just soooo compulsive though isn't it??? or is that just me blush

MillyRules Thu 24-Oct-13 19:10:03

Me today
lots of cups of tea
one homebaked maple and honey roast ham sandwich
5 squares of Green and Blacks Butterscotch chocolate (yum)

that's it for today. No appetite really.

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Thu 24-Oct-13 19:51:40

milly that's a teeny amount. I do need to cut down on sheer volume of food.
Me today (scoffing really. It is utterly comfort eating)
B: coffee and a cinnamon bagel with flora buttery.
L: cheese on tast with sweet chilli sauce shock, s&v crisps blush and a lemon yogurt
D: spaghetti with pesto, half an avocado, mini magnum.
S/D: one glass Fleurie, 1 chocolate digesive, 1 buttered breadstick, 2 sauté potatoes, teas and coffees
Must try harder.

MillyRules Thu 24-Oct-13 23:23:33

Your food sounds lovely Amanda.
I stopped drinking alcohol this year as a had enough of the really bad headaches that followed within the hour. I used to have to take 2 paracetamol and codeine plus 2 ibuprofen just to deal with it. I thought it would be hard but I don't even think about it now. The pain for me was just not worth it. Ooooo.....I tell a lie.....I did think about it when I saw the new Belgium Baileys and realised I would not be having any but then just as quickly I thought about the headaches and moved on.
I just wasn't that hungry today but will probably eat more tomorrow .

BloodiedGhouloshes Mon 28-Oct-13 10:18:33

Morning FRs. smile Hope everyone has survived the storm and there is not too much/any damage where you are.

Well, I did quite well with not being on MN.... granted I could not resist, but got myself down to about 30 mins a day.... I need to keep that up.

Food me -

B- nothing
L- carrot soup with home made cornbread
D- roast chicken with pots and green beans and gravy. I am craving bread sauce... but not enough to go out and buy an onion.

Childminder is closed today. Anyone have any ideas what to do with bored DCs? I am thinking of dressing up, doing some finger painting and C-Bleeding Beebies. That will last until lunchtime then. hmm

Hope everyone is fine.

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Mon 28-Oct-13 14:50:23

Impressive activities Ghouloshes
Quick update: Fasting. Tired.
Back soon

BloodiedGhouloshes Mon 28-Oct-13 15:18:14

Not really... have just been doing CBeebies to be honest.


TheGhostofAmandaClarke Mon 28-Oct-13 19:26:52

Poor ghouloshes. They are wearing aren't they.
I can't keep up with the little blighters tbh. And omg. The mess thlgrin
So. Fasting ok. I planned to just have tea/ coffes, soup for supper.
I actually had half a slice of French toast with a drizzle of maple syrup (really bad I know but that's what I was making the DCs for lunch.)
Then I had my tomato and lentil soup for supper and half a banana. 3 cups tea with milk, 1 coffee with milk.
That's got to be fewer than 500 calories, surely.
Really would like some sleep
O&D FRs.

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 29-Oct-13 09:21:11

Hi All,

What a weekend! Lots of drinking happened but it happened with lovely, lovely friends.

Sunday was amazing. Had 11 friends over with 3 babies. The noise levels were unbelievable. DH cooked a fab chilli (and was thoughtful enough to do mild & hot versions), we served it with nachos (made by moi), potato wedges and loads of bread rolls. Had lots of crisps, olives and nibbles out. My famous G&T granita for dessert which was hailed a success by everyone and lots of alcohol - everyone got slightly tipsy (or rather drunk). Babies were amazing. DH is not great with children but coped amazingly well, he wasn’t bothered by the noise and even got involved (from a distance, admittedly) with playtime. The highlight of the day for me was when one of them refused to say bye to DH, yet happily said “ba-bye” to the fruit bowl thlgrin

Let’s not talk about food. It’s not been good. I’ve put weight on again but I’m trying not to let it take over my life at the moment. I need to get my health sorted (doctors appointment is today) and I need to get my working day back on track rather than staring into space.

BloodiedGhouloshes Tue 29-Oct-13 11:11:05

That sounds like a GREAT weekend Hazel!

I laughed at the saying goodbye to the fruit bowl. grin

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Tue 29-Oct-13 19:36:41

Hi FRs.
Hazel your Sunday sounds great. I'm glad you had a good time. Good luck with the GP.
NFD today: DH cokoked/ chose food.
B: coffee (lots, no sleep recently) croissant, apple.
L: large ham roll, toffee apple (DH bought this for ds but he declined)
D: Chinese chicken dish, fried rice, ice cream.
Drinks/ snacks: tea, coffee, carrot cake blush
Exercise: 3 miles with pram.
Not sure whether to fast tomorrow... Hmmm.

MillyRules Tue 29-Oct-13 23:27:14

Hi internet is down since last weeks storm so using my phone which is not brilliant.
Hazel......what a lovely weekend.
one slice toast with salty welsh butter and Bon Maman Blueberry jam
small portion homemade fresh curry and two poppadoms and glass of celebration Shloer
vanilla real icecream.

Have inserted the Paul McKenna Hypno Band....ooooooo......!!!!!

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Wed 30-Oct-13 07:20:23

milly I hope you get your connection back soon.
Your breaker sounds delicious. grin at "insertion" of hypnoband.

I will be happy if I manage to eat "mindfully" today as I am too tired to consider anything close to a fast, maybe tomorrow.
B: muesli and coffee with gingerbread syrup. (already had)

L: small cheese roll and fruit
D: cheese and ham omlette. Probably with Actifry chips.
Hopefully no snacks apart from fruit.

BloodiedGhouloshes Wed 30-Oct-13 12:30:27

Good morning!

Hope your connection is back soon Milly. How did everyone weather the storm? we had strong gusts here but thankfully no damage.

Me today:

B- 1 orange and a cup of carrot soup
L- baked salmon with a HUGE salad
D- chicken goujons with a HUGE salad.

Am going mad over raw veg at the moment. That ought to be good! (Will not discuss the Caesar dressing....)

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 30-Oct-13 18:03:23

On sofa, pjs on, dressing gown on, snuggled in to duvet & I'm still shivering.

I've got a cold, reflux & gastro (for the second time in a week)

I've eaten
1 mini bag of Haribo for some sugar
1 small bowl plain boiled rice

Will have the same tonight, if I can stomach it. Am missing out on dinner with lovely friends so I'm feeling v.sorry for myself sad

MillyRules Wed 30-Oct-13 19:05:35

Poor you gastro doing the rounds or something.....a few people seem to have it....on the plus will lose some weight lol grin grin

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 30-Oct-13 19:45:10

It's doing the rounds here, definitely. Ha, Milly can you believe after last weeks bout I put ON 3lbs?! So unfair! grin

MillyRules Wed 30-Oct-13 20:05:21

O how bloody unfair Hazel.

BloodiedGhouloshes Wed 30-Oct-13 23:04:50

Gastro is doing the rounds here too. Am hoping ti will hit us in time to allow us to avoid a family function this weekend.

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Thu 31-Oct-13 06:16:05

Hazel twice? brew

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Thu 31-Oct-13 06:38:11

thanks for Hazel
Fasting today. DH will make spag Bol for the rest of them thlenvy

Hazelbrowneyes Thu 31-Oct-13 09:06:05

Thanks Amanda have dragged myself into work but I'm snapping at DH and staff as I'm feeling so poorly.

Am left with a stinking cold and sore throat. I really didn't want to come in today but it's the end of the month & lots to do.

Last night I had a mini bag of haribo & half a slice of toast with some beans. Was all I could manage. Haven't eaten yet today. I have sandwiches with me but I doubt I'll eat them. I can't stomach the thought of food still.

DH said he knew I was properly ill when I turned down the offer of Chinese takeaway.

Ghouloshes I'll breathe in your direction, hopefully it'll strike in time grin

Oh! saw my hot GP. He's not worried about it being an ulcer, he's sure it's just a nasty bout of reflux and has prescribed me some gaviscon advance stuff. If that doesn't work then he'll prescribe something harsher. He noted down the stress I'm going through and he's advised me to cut down alcohol (although he wasn't at all bothered by the amount I do drink), cut out spicy foods (was pretty shocked when I told him how often I eat spicy food blush) and avoid tea & coffee.

Of course, I felt so crap yesterday that I couldn't make it down to the chemist but my lovely friend offered to grab some for me - he could only get normal gaviscon (felt a bit rude to ask him to come up, get my prescription, walk down, wait for it, then walk back up) but that helped a lot yesterday.

BloodiedGhouloshes Thu 31-Oct-13 11:36:00

Hey Hazel hope you feel very much better soon. I am so glad you saw your DR and have had some reassurance.

I feel lousy today. DC3 is going through a really bad screaming phase where he just screams. He is not crying or anything, but he just starts screaming. He did it for two hours last night, literally he started before 4 pm and was still going when I was trying to cook dinner at 6 and I finally completely lost it and screamed back. It was awful. Then we both calmed down and I gave him cuddles and he went to bed at 7, but I feel horrendous today. Have ordered a bunch of child development books off amazon as I am baffled by him sometimes. After the DCs went to bed I had three large gin and tonics.

So today I feel like crap and the worst mummy in the world.

Thankfully my childminder has them today until 2 pm then we have a Halloween party to go to and then I think we can all go to bed at 7. DH is away until the weekend.

Too tired to think of food. have just eaten some bbq chicken. Just trying to get through today really.

BloodiedGhouloshes Thu 31-Oct-13 13:15:36

Well..... I have just made a MAJOR step. I have just called and made an appointment with a counsellor who specialises in food addiction and bingeing. I am so tired of trying to deal with my emotions through food.

Appointment is in 2 weeks..... nervous!!!! But I think I HAVE to do something!

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Thu 31-Oct-13 13:26:07

I think it's time to get those Pom poms out again Ghouloshes
<Shakes pumpkin Pom poms for esteemed leader>

MillyRules Thu 31-Oct-13 21:30:49

Ghoul what way are you eating now smile. ?

MillyRules Thu 31-Oct-13 21:35:06

Today I did a spring clean on my bedroom....grin Got BT man coming to sort out internet and phone and the main point is in the bedroom ha ha.

one rice crispie square
one egg fried in salty butter with a vine ripened tomato, two slices of mixed grain bread with said salty butter
treat size pack of crisps and real coke
3 slices Terrys chocolate orange
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Fri 01-Nov-13 08:30:47

milly is that all you ate? Sounds delicious too. And well done on the clear up. That always feel good.
I find it so hard not to graze when I am tired and stressed (which I always am lately). So I fasted yesterday. It was good. I had soup for supper and a yogurt and cups of tea during the day.
NFD today. Toast with marmalade, a large mouthful (is there any other sort?) of porridge as I was making it for DD and a large coffe with gingerbread syrup.
L: pumpkin soup.
D: spag Bol (as I batch cooked four meals' worth yesterday <smug domestic goddess>

BloodiedGhouloshes Fri 01-Nov-13 08:47:36

No real method Milly. I eat a lot of vegetables, a lot of soups and stews. But I get low and then binge on fatty foods...... a little while ago I cooked and ate an entire roast chicken over the course of about 2 hours! I want to stop that sort of behaviour.

But, today can report a 2 pound weightloss. This week I have just been wanting fresh raw veg so have had protein of some sort with a salad every day for lunch and dinner- salmon mainly. Tonight I will have grilled lamb chops with salad.

Hope you get your internet back soon!

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 01-Nov-13 08:49:40

Ghouloshes that sounds like a really positive step, well done. Please let us know how you get on xx

Rules envy I love terry’s chocolate orange

Amanda Well done on the fasting yesterday. Today’s menu looks good.

I’m feeling a bit better today. Still bunged up but not so achey. Am starving though.

Weighed myself this morning: 8st 13lbs so a 4lb loss since Monday.

B – none
L – 1 chicken mayo sandwich
D – half a pot of oriental style chicken & a little bit of rice (Chinese takeaway blush)
S – mini bag of haribo, packet of crisps, aero.

So I actually consumed a fair amount yesterday! Whoops.

B – none
L – no idea, whatever I can get from the van.
D – chicken curry with either rice or poppadums
S – mini bag of haribo, packet of crisps

No alcohol for 2 days and I’m probably going to continue that tonight.

Anyone have anything nice planned for the weekend? We’ve got to pop into work tomorrow but then I plan on doing some Christmas shopping (online, natch) whilst DH fits a new, bigger loft hatch. Tomorrow night we’ll probably see friends for a few drinks. Sunday I need to visit DM and DMIL as we haven’t seen them for a while, then a food shop so a lot to fit in before 1pm because I then plan to collapse on the sofa to watch F1. DH plans to put the loft boards in place so I might take charge of cooking dinner and batch cooking some soups. So nothing exciting but I’m quite looking forward to it.

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 01-Nov-13 08:53:04

Ooh well done on the weight loss! grin

Oh forgot to mention, I've left my "Taking control of my life" slip recently so a new start today: 30 days of November - 30 days of exercise. Even if it's just 10 minutes and only a few sit ups. I'm setting that little rule because I'm in Amsterdam later this month and due to my arrival time & departure time the next day I'm not going to get a lot of down time. I will be walking for a good few hours though so that counts I guess!

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Fri 01-Nov-13 08:55:45

Hazel I love batch cooking. Enjoy. Glad you're feeling better.

I am in trouble with this bowl of leftover Halloween candy. I need a haribo cope grin

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Fri 01-Nov-13 08:56:52

Cope??? Recipe.
Comfort eating is my downfall too Ghouloshes sad

BloodiedGhouloshes Fri 01-Nov-13 08:57:18

Glad you are feeling a bit better Hazel if you are eating again. smile

I am having a major domestic moment, so last night spent some time planning my Christmas decorations. blush never mind it is two months away!!!!! I am going for dark green, white and silver. I confess blush (again) that I have recently found myself poring over gorgeous lifestyle blogs and dreaming of turning this chaotic messy household into something chic and elegant. So I plan to do a lot of thinking about that this weekend.

I am craving some quiet time with my family. I really want to have a lovely relxed Sunday roast/dvds/walk in the forest. DH wants to go out. angry

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

BloodiedGhouloshes Fri 01-Nov-13 08:59:31

waves to Amanda. smile Yes, I kind of thing I need to address my problems with comfort eating and also expressing self hatred through forcing food down. Apparently this counsellor specialises in this. It's expensive, but I am desperate. I cannot continue to live my life like this. This thread has helped me a lot---- I doubt I would ever have taken the step were it not for talking to you all. thanks

MillyRules Fri 01-Nov-13 15:26:52

Ghoulish I was on a thread two weeks ago about binge eating....was very interesting. I used to have a problem with it but managed to stop. It's a vicious circle ....once I stopped dieting and started eating all the delicious foods i wanted I stopped the cycle and the weight came

MillyRules Fri 01-Nov-13 15:27:40

Ghoulosh bloody phone shock

TheGhostofAmandaClarke Fri 01-Nov-13 19:17:28

<Finds leftover Halloween candy>
<hands in "HR" membership card> blush

LegoCaltrops Fri 01-Nov-13 20:29:16

<Waddles back onto thread>

Hi FRs

It's been a crap challenging week. DH had his hernia Op on Tuesday. I could only get 2 days off work & he isn't allowed to do any lifting for at least another week so I've been doing everything. Shattered. Also, much naughty food has been eaten. I've gained 3lb. sad But he's improving now & doesn't need my help to move around. So I'm starting back on healthy eating as of tomorrow.

LegoCaltrops Fri 01-Nov-13 20:41:04

Sorry, stupid phone wouldn't let me scroll down. Have decided I really need a notepad or Ipad or something. Our PC is antiquated & inaccessible, & my phone is tiny & crap (must read reviews before choosing next phone!) So I'm saving for that. Went to have a look at latest Ipad today, nearly fainted at the price.

I am going to try & get back down to 9st by the end of November. Not ridiculous. Am annoyed with myself for going for easy options, food wise, instead of simple healthy food.

Must start listening to PM again as well. Starting tonight.


MillyRules Fri 01-Nov-13 21:41:25

Lego....Paul says there is no naughty food or good or bad food, just food. grin

MillyRules Fri 01-Nov-13 21:45:28

Me today.....

two poached eggs with one slice salty buttered toast
two inch piece French stick with vintage cheddar, plum chutney and leaves
one wrap with chilli chicken, leaves, vintage cheddar and Greek yoghurt.
one Galaxy cake bar
lots of cups of tea
one milky way smile

MillyRules Sat 02-Nov-13 01:52:14

Oooo and some Somerset Brie with the sweetest red grapes. smile

MillyRules Sat 02-Nov-13 01:53:41

Glad your husband is on the mend Legosmile

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 02-Nov-13 06:21:24

Sorry you've had a crap week Lego
But I'm pleased your DH is getting better. That weight will go. It's an ongoing project isn't it. No WOE is foolproof. We get enthused about a "diet" it goes well, we have a blip, we get back on the wagon. It's all ok.

SlightlyDampWellies Sat 02-Nov-13 07:45:13

Morning all.

Bloodied here taking my post Halloween nn for a whirl.

Hope your DH is better very soon Lego.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

LegoCaltrops Sat 02-Nov-13 08:01:02

Thanks all for the well-wishing. DH says thanks too!

I'm going to follow Millys example & have poached egg for breakfast I think, with rye bread.
L - probably won't bother.
D - chicken salad.

Must go, DD was late to bed last night & is just waking up. She is a very noisy child! grin

LegoCaltrops Sun 03-Nov-13 10:08:07

OMG. Worst. Night. Ever. DD would not settle. She's not usually this bad. She came in with me in the end, & DH slept on the sofa as his stitches are still vulnerable (less than 5 days post-op, bless him he's a star). I finally managed to transfer her to bed at 4 this morning. Have left DH in bed.

Shattered. But have managed (moderately) healthy breakfast, 1 slice wholemeal toast & poached egg, a bit of hollandaise but have chucked the rest of the jar so I'm not tempted again.

Not a clue about lunch, may just go makeup shopping instead with all my Boots points! grin Dinner will be a nice carton of skinny chicken soup.


TheRealAmandaClarke Sun 03-Nov-13 13:21:59

Poor Lego

MillyRules Sun 03-Nov-13 14:06:02

Morning Ladies.....Sounds like a bad night Lego.....bit of retail therapy sounds like a " plan"!!!

SlightlyDampWellies Sun 03-Nov-13 14:36:50

Hello FRs! Lego I hope your day is a lot better and your sleep tonight too.

Having leftover roast pork with gravy and veg tonight. Am tired. And need to clean the house as a friend is coming round for mulled wine at 5 and it looks like a bomb has hit it... which it did last time she came around too!

SlightlyDampWellies Sun 03-Nov-13 15:30:22

I have just snapped at a neighbour who lives a few doors down blush.

She thinks it is funny to shove her dog right up to the gate of our garden and to send our dogs into a barking frenzy. She can hear us telling the dogs off, and our neighbours on the immediate side have complained to us. I know when she walks her dog usually and try and have ours locked up, but just now the dogs were barking and I went out and caught her. I snapped 'standing there does not help. STOP WINDING THEM UP' at a roar.

Thing is, the woman is not ignorant surely. She is a retired headmistress. But she thinks it is funny for the dogs to 'talk to each other'.


[head explodes]

[no longer invited to the annual street Xmas party].

MillyRules Sun 03-Nov-13 16:26:34

Sounds like she deserved it Wellies....don't worry about it. You have told her now exactly what she needed to hear. She should stop unless she is a total cow.

LegoCaltrops Sun 03-Nov-13 17:47:01

Thanks everyone. We're trying to keep her up so she is tired for bed tonight (she often doesn't nap during the day anyway) <need slacker mum/defensive emoticon>

Your neighbour sounds a real charmer, Wellies. Maybe you can go and wind her dogs up at six in the morning

I've bought some mini Magnums. Just call me TheRealAmandaClarke grin

I have painted my nails. For the first time since I was in labour, I am wearing nail polish. WooHoo!


MillyRules Mon 04-Nov-13 00:09:30

Hope you sleep better tonight Lego .

Brie and sweet red grapes
homemade curry, yoghurt and poppadoms
vintage cheese omlette
handfull of cashews
Green and Black Ginger Chocolate
lots of tea grin

MillyRules Mon 04-Nov-13 00:19:24

Hazel.....a lot of people get rid of reflux by completely cutting out wheat. I notice when I eat too much I get reflux and IBS.

LegoCaltrops Mon 04-Nov-13 07:22:23

Well - that seems to have worked. She's just woken up. Feel much better, Yay! Hope DH doesn't let her have too long a nap today while I'm at work, have given him strict instructions...

Off to have porridge for breakfast.
L nothing
D lazy yummy filled pasta.
S fruit


MillyRules Mon 04-Nov-13 22:18:59

Glad she slept well Lego . Sleep makes such a difference to our mood doesn't

MillyRules Mon 04-Nov-13 23:26:09

Me today...
two oatcakes and brie
bacon and pepper omlette
coffee and revels ( date night at Cineworld). Watched Thor.....that actor is " corrrrrr" lol.
Chicken with garlic and herb butter, salad and sweet potato.
Seeds and nuts
How's everyone doing?
When are you seeing your food lady TheReal

MillyRules Mon 04-Nov-13 23:29:01

Sorry that was meant to be Ghouloshes

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 06-Nov-13 07:20:39

Hey FRs.
Sorry I haven't posted for a while. Been really rubbish.
I managed 2 fasts last week. I was going to fast today but my craving for breakfast is strong and once I've started eating I know I'll end up snacking.
I've become trapped in my world of tiredness (DD waking three or so times at night) and the relentless stress of 24/7 family life. So I am comfort eating. I think if I actually had the time, energy or head space to plan and look forward to sitting down and eating a meal I would eat better, and less, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.
I feel shit really. My DCs are the best. And I'm wasting this precious maternity leave being exhausted and grumpy and tearful. S ungrateful.
I might lay low for a bit. Car needs an mot which will use up any available brain power. (none left)
Sorry for the grumpy post.

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 06-Nov-13 09:59:09

Hi All,

Sorry I’ve been quiet for a while, been really poorly for the last week and haven’t had enough energy to even hold the iPad.

Amanda I really want to give you a big hug, you sound so down. Message me, if you want, always here to listen. Might not be able to give any advice but happy to just offer support, as you know xxx

Milly I don’t eat a lot of wheat as it is because I have bad IBS. I’m using some techniques to relax which is helping with the stress and I’ve not really drank a lot of alcohol or eaten much food which has helped. How depressing – don’t eat and you don’t get reflux. grin

Wellies I’ll come to yours for mulled wine, promise I won’t care about any mess (and I’m sure it’s not as messy as you think!)

Lego hope things are still improving on the sleep front. You’ve just reminded me that I need to paint my nails. Will do so tonight, it makes such a difference to my mood.

I’ve finally got some energy back, just in time for my flu jab later which always renders me useless for 24hours. Went out for dinner with DH last night (we had a voucher grin) as I really needed to make the effort for him. He’s been utterly fantastic this last week. He’s usually terrible when I’m ill and has a habit of making me feel guilty for being ill. He can’t dish out sympathy either. Totally different this time to the point I’m wondering if my husband has been replaced by an alien. He boarded out the loft on Saturday, fitted a big hatch and a proper loft ladder without expecting any help from me (I didn’t even move off the sofa) and he spent the entire weekend making sure I was ok. All I’ve done is cry, cough, sneeze and sleep.

I did manage to make leek and potato soup and he’s raved about it which is most unlike him. Usually the most I get is “It’s ok”. He likes it so much; we’re having it for lunch again today. 3 days running. Getting slightly dull now.

Someone asked me if I was pregnant the other day so once again I’m feeling low about the fact I’ve never had a flat stomach. I told her I wasn’t and she proceeded to grill me as to whether or not we were TTC and struggling. Surely you just don’t do that?! Thankfully we’re not, but what if I was? She’d have made me feel horrendous. She annoyed me so much, I got out my pill packet and shoved it in her face to show her I was very much still taking the pill. Probably not the most mature thing to do but she’s not even someone I’d call a friend. What the hell is going to happen when we do start TTC? I’m dreading it as it’s going to be obvious when I cut down/cut out alcohol. I do 30 days off the booze every January so that’d be a good time to start I guess, then I can just say that I’m enjoying my new sober lifestyle so much I’m going to continue it. So much to think about. As it is, I’m just going to concentrate on trying to flatten my stomach a bit!!

Sorry for the long post x

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 06-Nov-13 10:23:24

Ppl are probablyasking you if you're pregnant because they are waiting to hear that IYSWIM. And if you're not drinking it makes ppl wonder. Glad you're feeling better.

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 06-Nov-13 10:31:22

Quite possibly, Amanda but this woman works in the same business park as me and has spoken approximately 50 words to me in the past year. grin She wouldn't know if I was drinking or not as I don't see her in a social context at all. I really don't mind friends and family asking/talking about it and I'll be completely honest with them, infact, it's nice to have someone to talk to & I can ask questions, etc. I draw the line at acquaintances/strangers being bloody nosey though grin

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 06-Nov-13 10:38:16

Rude. Just rude.
Will plan revenge for you wink


MillyRules Wed 06-Nov-13 13:56:21

Some women are just evil bitches who like to make others feel bad cause then they feel superior .

MillyRules Wed 06-Nov-13 14:02:27

Amanda....don't worry about feeling low. Your kids don't care. They just take each day ad it comes and I'm sure they have a happy life. Please don't be hard on yourself. You can't help how your feeling. Make sure to treat yourself....a new chick lit book, scented candle and bubble bath, magazine, scarf or maybe plan a lovely little dinner for DH and you when the kids are in bed. Try to get out by yourself as well even if it's just to do the weekly shop. Time out from family life, even just an hour, is so refreshing. smile

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 06-Nov-13 15:35:03

Thank you milly for your kind words.

Feeling a Bit tearful today.
But i got 20 minutes in the gym and just had half hour sit down with a brew while dd had a nap. So that's great. She's feeding now. She's so beautiful. I go to pick scrummy ds up in a minute. Wednesday's are quite easy because he is with cm. I need to think of something nice o do with them tomorrow.
B: bagel, coffee.
L: pad Thai, apple, few grapes.
D: ? Something small, I hope.
I'm quite chuffed to have stayed off the biscuits. grin

MillyRules Wed 06-Nov-13 16:47:55

You sound hormonal Amanda???? Just wondering if you suffer with PMS? Anyway just take each day as it comes, stop worrying about being supermum and just enjoy the good moments. It gets easier I promise smile

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 06-Nov-13 17:51:40

I think it is pmt blush

MillyRules Wed 06-Nov-13 19:23:32

awww!!! there you go. smile

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 06-Nov-13 19:52:41

I am back!!!

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 06-Nov-13 19:53:27

Have had problems posting- apparently a problem with internet explore. Another poster CiderWithBuda directed me to sitestuff and now I am back here in my spiritual home. [sigh]

I was missing you all!

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 06-Nov-13 19:55:35

[hugs] to Amanda who sounds so blue.

[Hugs] to hazel. People asking me if I am pg is a conastant bugbear and bane. TBH, she sound either bitchy or just outrageously inappropriate. You are very slim as it is. WHY would anyone ask such a question of any woman? [shakes head]

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 06-Nov-13 19:56:40

Amanda you say you need to do something nice with the Dcs tomorrow... and choose something nice for yourself too. thanks. It sounds like you really need a bit of comforting.

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 06-Nov-13 20:02:04

thanks to everyone. WE all sound a bit depleted.

I have been fine, except for the computer not working. I felt like a ghost yelling in everyone's ears as I tried to post without success. Today has been a day though.... Ds 3 had a fit out of nowhere. He was running around at softplay, then went over backwards like he had been felled and fitted. He has never fitted. I went to OOH and they think it was a one off because he was hot. I am about to ring my mother abroad to see if we have epilepsy in the family. The Dr is convinced it is a one-off. it was pretty bloody terrifying though.

Now have a glass of wine in hand. All Dcs are in bed. Planning to watch 'Ambassadors' and then bed.

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 06-Nov-13 20:33:21

Hi wellies good to have you back.
Poor thing that must have been scary to see your DS have a seizure. Poor sausage. Fitting with a fever is not uncommon though in small children. I hope everything turns out well and it was just from being hot. Oh they are a worry, little monkeys.

MillyRules Thu 07-Nov-13 01:35:03

Sorry to hear about your little one Wellies but it does happen a lot with high temperatures.
Me today
one oat bar
egg tomato and mushroom fried in salty butter
handful of cashew nuts
4 squares of Green and Blacks Salty chocolate
Brie,walnut and sweet red grape salad with leaves and honey olive oil and balsalmic dressing
greek yoghurt with pecans and honey
lots of cups of tea
bloody headache today.....not mega bad but has lasted all day despite medicating.....grrrrr!!!

MillyRules Thu 07-Nov-13 01:36:00

Im trying to cut out wheat at the moment as it causes me bloating and discomfort and not good for my ibs. Also, reading the book Wheat Belly.......anyone read it??

MillyRules Sat 09-Nov-13 01:00:34 we all doing? wink

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 09-Nov-13 04:09:14

I plan to fast today.
Been comfort eating a bit his week.
DD up four or five times a night. Poor DCs having a tired grumpy mummy.
Fingers crossed for a good fast. It usually makes me feel good.

MillyRules Sat 09-Nov-13 22:54:58

How did the fast go Amanda.
Me today:
2 chocolate hob nobs and cup of tea in bed (DH does this every morning)
1 glass milk
2 Falafels
Home made Chicken filled with garlic and parsley butter, creamy buttery mashed potatoes, peas, carrots and broccoli.
one baby Crunchy
lots of cups of tea.

SlightlyDampWellies Sun 10-Nov-13 15:13:09

Hello everyone.

I am still about, just not in a healthy frame f mind!

I am seeing my diet counsellor tomorrow. So have given myself a few days 'off' thinking about dieting or food. smile

Hope everyone is okay. thanks

MillyRules Sun 10-Nov-13 17:27:18

wellies hope tomorrow goes well. I have to say that I dont diet or restrict food at all and I dont gain weight. I stopped dieting years ago and its lovely most of the time to feel in control rather than bein controlled. I hope you can sort out your food issues. smile

TheRealAmandaClarke Sun 10-Nov-13 21:16:36

Hey FRs.
The fast became a "mini fast" * I like the feeling of being pretty darn hungry at dinner time.
I think I will do more of them and I'm toying with the idea of that for 5 days a week. So basically that would mean that as a rule, during the week I would skip breakfast and lunch and avoid all food until a normal evening meal. We shall see.
Still very tired. Also a bt miffed with dh tbh. I have resolved to ago I'd all confrontation (easier said than done). But I'm feeling the pressure of life sad
Wellies good luck for tomorrow.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sun 10-Nov-13 21:17:46

avoid all confrontation

MillyRules Sun 10-Nov-13 23:32:52

Want to say why your miffed Amanda. Can we help in any way?

MillyRules Sun 10-Nov-13 23:47:04

Amanda I too like the feeling of being properly hungry and stopping as soon as im full but sometimes it is hard to tune into my body. This week Im going to seriously get back on the mindful eating as although I have been maintaining I still want to lose a stone.

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 11-Nov-13 07:53:10

Ah thanks Milly it's ok, just what I imagine is normal stuff wanting to cleave his skull open with an axe for couples with little DCs/ lack of sleep grin
Luckily the DCs are especially adorable.
Yes, I too think it is hard to keep tuned -in to real hunger. It works well for a while and then other things take over. It's hard for me to eat mindfully when tired/ stressed/ busy. I need a little headspace for it and I don't really have any right now.
When I got up this morning (6ish) I could have devoured any toasted bread product tbh. But I've had a black coffee, I'm giving the DCs their bagels and banana and now I feel ok. The craving passes and I'm hoping to be food- free until dinner time. That's where fasting helps me, because I just have to wait until dinner and cope with mild hunger rather than keep thinking "am I really hungry?" etc. IYSWIM.
O&D FRs.

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 11-Nov-13 10:01:02

Hi all,

Good luck today wellies can’t wait to hear how it goes.

Amanda sad I want to give you a massive hug. I also avoid confrontation at all costs, but not with DH. Sometimes I need to confront him mainly to stop myself from wanting to hurl something hard and heavy at his head to clear the air. We don’t have children so I obviously don’t know how hard it is but I really can imagine. You sound like you really need some time out to be honest. Any chance you could call on some relatives to help? Visit for a day or two, they can take charge of your DCs and you can get some rest? If you rest at home, you’ll think “oh I need to clean, tidy, whatever” but if you’re away from home, you have to do nothing. Just an idea & I hope you don't think I'm speaking out of turn. I know it’s probably easier said than done but I know I’d be more than happy to help out a tired relative for a few days. Big hugs xxx

As for me, I’ve eaten too much food and drank too much alcohol recently and I’m cross with myself. Yesterday I had goats cheese al forno in Prezzo (delish) and followed it with a massive amount of cheese when I got home. Such a fool. I did walk a good few miles though as we went Christmas shopping (why does it just seem so stressful this year?) and I was shattered by the time I got home so just shovelled food in. Idiot.

So today I start again. It’s not long until my birthday and I have a new dress I’d like to squeeze into for a meal out. One of a bloody ridiculous amount of meals out, quite frankly. How on earth did we end up with a social life? We’re both bloody miserable human beings! I left the open packet of jaffa cakes at home (kicking myself for this now) and lunch is homemade tortilla (DHs speciality). DH has brought in some sausage rolls but I’m going to try to avoid those. I have dark chocolate should I need a snack but I’m hoping to avoid it. Drinks: 3 cups of tea max and water only. Tonight we have beef stir fry and I’m going to make a soup for tomorrow. I’m probably going to stay in tonight to sort out my wardrobe so I will stay off the alcohol.

I’m determined to feel better about myself by the time December gets here. It’s so pointless being so unhappy all the time.

MillyRules Mon 11-Nov-13 12:14:23

Hazel im determined to drop this bloody stone too. Im eating really mindfully (hopefully) and will not eat until im really hungry, that feeling that you just have to eat or you will die feeling, ha ha!.
Amanda hope today works for you too.
Wellies let us know who the session goes?
Everyone you all doing?

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 11-Nov-13 14:27:46

Hazel you're very sweet. Thanks. I'll be ok.
I do need some rest though. Maybe one day grin
I haven't really thought about Christmas shopping tbh. DS I writing to FC right now. But I'm not sure what about as he's only 3 grin

Milly good luck with your mindful eating.

Wellies hope you had a good session (as it were) today.

Lego Baking Twinkle shoes thinking of you all.

Fasting is going ok today. It's tough as a meal approaches but I feed the DCs and have a white coffee while they eat and then the hunger fades. Looking forward to some fish curry soup for dinner. I hope to do mini fasts tues- fri after this.

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 12-Nov-13 08:26:39

Morning all.

[hugs] to Amanda and yes, the reason I did not write yesterday is because DH and I had a riproaring fight and I too want to cleave his skull with an axe. And also about little DCs, lack of patience, lack of sleep etc.

Mindful eating is my ultimate aim too, Milly.

Hazel hope you are okay. It really resonated what you said about it being pointless being so unhappy all the time.

Thanks for asking about my session. It went really well I thought and the counsellor was really engaging and engaged as well and I felt good with her. We talked a lot about my food history so to speak.... weight gains and losses, how I feel about food, how I feel about myself, how my mother was with her food issues etc. She said basically I need to reprogramme, as I have developed these habits that are not working anymore, and I have screwed my relationship up with food so badly that it is like starting again. I am paraphrasing obviously, but that is what I got out of it. So for this week all I have to do is eat breakfast. No food diaries. No plans. No targets. Just eat breakfast every day and then stop thinking about it all. That feels kind of restful.

I will write more later, but DC 3 has started screaming (He is going through another phase) and I need to deal with it because it does DH's head in and I can forsee another row!

Hope everyone has a good day- O&D FRs!

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 12-Nov-13 08:55:33

Thanks Wellies for sharing about your session. I'm glad it's started well.
Suffice to say than men a very annoying and they'd better e wearing armoured underpants come the fucking revolution!

I managed a mini fast yesterday and am planning the same for today.
Had breadcrumbed fish and actifry chips with peas and then some canned fruit last night. Nothing to eat before that.
I actually can't think for long enough to plan tonight's dinner.
The mini fast thing is interesting (IMHO grin) because this morning I have made porridge, toast/ bagels, sliced up apples, peeled satsumas and made drinks for everyone. I have had a white coffee (treat, should have been black really). At the time of making this food I felt ravenous. I love toast etc. now it's all eaten (apart from DD's who is on hunger strike ) I feel ok. I think I must have some real rigidity in my personality (definitely from DF's genes) because I find it much easier to abide by a set rule of eating nothing than having a moderate healthy breakfast and lunch.
Anyway. Et's hope it works. I want to stay this size or slimmer, not keep creeping up.
O&D FRs brew

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 12-Nov-13 08:57:43

(((*hazel*))) you are right. It is pointless and exhausting to not feel good about yourself. brew thanks

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 12-Nov-13 09:59:46

That sounds positive wellies I need to sort out the reasons why I constantly think about food. I think a lot of it is boredom to be honest. I have a desk job so I sit and snack pretty much constantly.

Amanda Well done on the mini fast. I hope your DD comes off hunger strike soon!

I’m ok. I feel good actually. I’m determined to be more cheery. I’m getting on reasonably well with DH which is helping – he’s a grumpy sod but seems to be making a real effort. I’m really trying to kick the drinking into touch for both our benefit and last night he really helped. We even went to the pub and both had soft drinks.

So, my food diary because I’m unable to let this go just yet grin

B – none
L – tortilla, 1 snack sausage roll
D – beef & veg stirfry, no noodles
S – packet of crisps (doh), 2 jaffa cakes (doh), 6 squares of chocolate (doh)

Not great but not the worst it’s been either (see, I’m looking for positives)

Weighed myself this morning but didn’t take measurements as I’ve lost the tape measure. I want to lose 7lbs by Christmas but I’ll be happy with 5lbs off.

B – none
L – homemade veg soup – swede, potatoes, carrots, parsnip with a shit load of paprika and curry powder as it was too sweet for me. I will probably have a bread roll with this.
D – sausages and something. Either sausages with potato and carrot mash or sausage casserole. I’m not a massive fan of sausages to be honest so I need to see how I feel tonight as to how I fancy eating them!
S – left over tortilla, chocolate. No crisps.

So, tiny steps. Today I’m focussing on not having crisps.

Last night I started sorting my wardrobe which kept me on my feet for a little bit and tonight I do intend to exercise. I’m also planning on properly snuggling up with DH on the sofa to watch some TV as we generally sit opposite ends and play with the ipads all night. I want to get out of that habit. I’ve not painted my nails in a while either so I might do that tonight as well. This is part of my problem though, I want to do so much in such a short space of time that I start to panic and end up getting nothing done. This is very much the case at work too.

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 12-Nov-13 18:34:28

I really understand what you mean Hazel when you say that you panic and get nothing done. The whole looks overwhelming. I have started a thread in Good Housekeeping for exactly that reason- my house is - frankly- a goddam disaster and I get worn down by the daily stuff. The housekeeping thread is about small changes every day- and that is working really well, and I am proud of what I have achieved so far.

Today- I went and bought breakfast stuff. Deluxe cereal, deluxe greek yoghurt, nice honey and my fave nuts. If I have to eat breakfast then I plan to make it a luxury- a time of self nurturing. See... already I am reverting to making targets!!!!! But, hopefully I ca start to change my mindset. smile

Hope everyone is well and fine. thanks

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 12-Nov-13 19:28:34

Very quick

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 12-Nov-13 19:31:08

My point made exactly with that last post...bloody phone.

As I was saying, a very quick post as I'm on my phone but a few friends of mine are doing a 30 bag in 30 days challenge. Basically, you chuck out 30 bags of crap. Can be tiny bags, can be bin liners but you do one bag a day. I plan on starting that this weekend smile

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 12-Nov-13 20:42:28

I love chucking stuff out.
Will start as soon as I can leave the house again to get to the charity shop.
(poorly DS not up to a trip to oxfam sad)

MillyRules Tue 12-Nov-13 21:14:44

Wellies glad your session went well.
Are we still writing down our food?
me today
bacon, egg, tomatoes and mushrooms fried in welsh salty butter
home baked maple ham with salad
Oven roasted potatoes with peppers and onions, cod in sweet wine sauce, broccoli with cheese sauce and peas and carrots .
Rachels Dairy Vanilla Yoghurt with chopped banana
couple of squares of Green and Blacks Anglesey sea salt chocolate

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 13-Nov-13 07:44:13

aaaagh! Lost post!

I was just saying that a 30 bag for 30 day challenge sounds great!

I will not write daily food meals for a bit I think, but please do not let that stop anyone else!!! I might slip though as that really is a bit of a habit. I have already in y head planned lunch and dinner!

Amanda hope your little boy is better soon.

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 13-Nov-13 07:47:50

also [soppy emoticon] thanks all of you for your support. I have told no-one in RL what I am doing with this counsellor. I really appreciate you all being there and being interested. thanks

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 13-Nov-13 08:02:30

Good luck with your goals everyone.

Hazel I tend to plan a fast day for when dinner is something I'm not too keen on grin. Well done on soft drinks in the pub.

Wellies you're going to have such a fabulous breakfast. envy I love Greek yogurt etc.

Milly just yum. Your food sounds delicious.

I am on day 3 of my mini fast week. (only day 3???,!) mat times it's so tough. But I know I am looking forward to a lovely meal every day.
and I'm hoping that it is all for the good, health and weight wise.
I had chilli last night with some nachos on the side, and a v small glass of merlot and a small bowl of chocolate ice cream.
I then ate a bowl of shred dies with a banana as I was clearing up after the DCs were in bed. blush. I should have just had a cup of tea.

Tonight we're having macaroni cheese, which I love.
I think I might change things around next week and either do 5:2 or 18:6.


TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 13-Nov-13 08:04:31

Thanks wellies he is charging around "rescuing" everyone in sight. A recovery much like that depicted on the Calpol advert grin

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 13-Nov-13 08:05:38

wellies with or without your food diary it will be great to hear your thoughts for the day tbh.

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 13-Nov-13 08:58:12


Glad to hear your DS seems to have recovered today [Amanda] Chilli & nachos envy I love that.

Wellies Your breakfast stuff sounds fab. I really struggle to eat first thing. Maybe I need to try some different breakfast ideas out. Ah, soppy wellies grin I’m really interested. I have counselling myself and whilst we’ve touched on my relationship with food, we’ve not delved into it. I think that might be one for the new year.

Milly the cod in sweet wine sauce sounds yum! As does broccoli in cheese sauce envy

I didn’t exercise last night (naughty) but we did sort out our memory box together which was nice. Some of it made me cry (since when did we go from lovely birthday cards with lots of lovely messages to “Hazel, Happy Birthday, DH x”??) but mostly we laughed & reminisced, so hopefully it might reignite some romance. I also did my first bag of 30 last night – I couldn’t wait until Saturday! DH doesn’t quite know what I’m doing as he’s a bit of a hoarder so I’m attempting to sneak stuff I know we don’t need to keep into a bag each day. The stuff from last night was all paperwork – so I have a big pile to shred today. Tonight I’m going to bag up some clothes for the charity bin I think, as well as continue to sort my wardrobe out.

Didn’t paint my nails but did cuddle up with DH. So a reasonably successful evening in terms of my goals. You’ve got me thinking actually wellies maybe I need to focus on goals less. I’m going to look at your thread in Good Housekeeping too.

So, food.

B – none
L – spicy veg soup with roll
D – sausage casserole with green beans
S – left over tortilla, chocolate, hot chocolate. No alcohol.

I’m already feeling better just because I’m eating better. My stomach feels flatter and I definitely feel more energetic.

B – none
L – spicy veg soup with roll
D – I think it’s spag bol so I’ll have a small portion of spaghetti but will treat myself to a little bit of parmesan
S – I only have a few squares of chocolate with me today so hopefully, just that.

I said to DH that we could have a glass of red each with dinner tonight but he said he doesn’t want to drink until tomorrow smile

My focus today is on work. I’m sure I’ve cocked something up with my accounting system at work so I need to sort that. I also want to get some filing done and do some of the boring stuff that needs doing but keeps getting put off.

Un-mumsnetty but I do love our little group (although it’s missing some vital members at the moment) – it’s so nice we can chat about stuff other than weight loss. I think a healthy mind is just as important as a healthy body & you’re all helping me achieve both smile

MillyRules Wed 13-Nov-13 11:10:28

GoodMorning Ladies, hope your all having a lovely day. Im in bed with a cup of tea on my laptop. Very very lazy but I will make up for it later. Im making soup today. Butternut squash and ginger........and Parsnip and cumin. mmmmmm!!!!!
Amanda you seem to be doing well with your fasts.
Hazel.....its lovely to hear you and DH are making time for one and other. It can be sad to look back and see how in love you once were and then to realise that now your so busy with life that romance has taken a back seat. DH and I were like that until about 9 years ago. We split up, seriously split up, but then things turned around and we fell in love all over again. Now nine years on we are still like a new couple in love and our cards are romantic and mushy etc. We go on date nights a lot and cherish each other so much more. It took something serious as splitting up to make us realise all this.
Wellies Counselling is amazing and really helps you to look at yourself differently to how you normally do. I had it years ago and it was a turning point for me.
I know I havnt been on this thread for long but I too think its lovely and very glad to have found it. smile

MillyRules Wed 13-Nov-13 23:57:04

Me today.....
Once slice bacon, 1 sausage
Frothy coffee with maple and vanilla and Green and Blacks Orange Chocolate shavings on top
One banana
small portion homemade chicken curry, 2 poppadoms , chutney,
glass of coke
one ginger oat bar
lots of cups of tea

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 14-Nov-13 05:57:41

Milly your menu looks good. Delicious food but small portions.

Hazel really well done with your eating and with getting time for you and DH.

I am becoming increasingly aware of my food problems. I think fasting makes me focus on what I really want/ am hungry for and my reasons for eating IYSWIM.
So I know that unless I have a rule such as fasting, or no snacking then I will easily Hoover up calories without noticing I'm eating; a bite of cheese or bread while I'm making DS lunch or a handful of cereal here and there etc. it all adds up.
Also, comfort eating through stress and tiredness. I am unbelievably tired ATM. And feeling quite low and I find it hard not to comfort myself with biscuit/ cake etc with my tea.
So I need to "diet" because the tiredness ain't going away. I am not suddenly going to get a bunch of helpful ppl around to help with DCs so I have to just get on with it.
And I like the feeling that fasting gives me. It's like "comfort not eating"
2 more days of mini fasts and then a weekend of (hopefully) mindful and enjoyable eating. Next week I will have a different fasting arrangement.
Cheating a bit today as I've been up since 4am. I've had a white tea and I'm having a white Coffee with a dash of gingerbread syrup. Yummy.

MillyRules Thu 14-Nov-13 23:07:30

Hi All,
honey baked ham omelette
chicken stuffed with garlic and herbs cooked in white wine with carots and broccoli
Apple and big wodge of Very soft Somerset Brie
Terrys chocolate orange .....ooooo about 7 segments.
lots of tea.

SlightlyDampWellies Fri 15-Nov-13 07:34:59

Morning everyone!

Nothing to report really. Am managing to have my breakfast each day and it does seem to make a difference to my eating later on.... I am possibly eating less overall, as am not getting starving hungry and then bingeing.

Portion size is definitely an issue for me!

TheRealAmandaClarke Fri 15-Nov-13 08:24:20

Milly scrum. I love Brie. I love eating British cheeses. Total yum.

Wellies thanks for the update.
Definitely agree about bingeing when super hungry. Although I often find that breakfast makes me more hungry (but that's probably be use I like a carb based brekkers) I have noticed this week that I can't maintain mini fasts without snacking after dinner.

Keeping distracted and having a nice meal to look forward to are helpful in avoiding anytime eating for me. There we definitely certain as that are tougher than others.
Yesterday I had a major fasting fail. I had no sleep on Wednesday night and was up at 4 after a tough night with dd. at 2pm I just had to eat so I made a large ham baguette. It was nice smile. Then Greek lamb stew with Cous Cous for dinner. Yogurt for pud. But then I ate a slice of raisin bread. blush
I can totally see why women pile on the pounds when they become mothers. I gained a lot of weight in pregnancy blue I ate a lot. Now that weight has gone, I'm a slim 10, and I'm ok with that. But I can see how it would be easy for me to be overweight. It's not what I would call "baby weight" but just that the tiredness, and the unique combinations of stress that come with having young DCs would so so easily have me comfort eating all day. When I am having fun with them, out with them, it's different, but when it's a day of just crawling through the sleep deprivation and trying to do my best (and failing) I could snack my way to a size 22, no problem.
Mindful eating was great for me at certain times. When DH and I first got together I could go days without thinking about food. That's what the excitement and optimism of a new relationship does. I used to work long hours of unpaid overtime without thinking about food, when i feel happy that is so simple. Comfort eating is, without a shadow of a doubt, my issue.
I'm not really sure how to resolve that tbh, so for now I will try to be a better person, enjoy my beautiful DCs, for whom i am enormously grateful, try to find my postal perfect intermittent fasting regime and lay of the biscuits grin

TheRealAmandaClarke Fri 15-Nov-13 08:27:28

Oh, today
B: coffe with gingerbread syrup, 1 slice raisin toast, 1 apple, handful of Cheerios (asda own, as I am a nestle avoider) 5 giant chocolate buttons blush
D: cheese and ham omlette with "actifry" chips.

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 15-Nov-13 09:07:27

Morning all,

Was terribly unmotivated yesterday so couldn’t be bothered to post blush. Feeling better this morning though!

Diary first:

B – none
L – spicy veg soup with roll
D – spag bol (fusilli bol really)
S – chocolate, 1 dry cracker

Unfortunately I cocked up a bit by having a very small glass of wine with dinner and then a 175ml glass of wine when I popped out to see a friend (DH didn’t drink at home and had 2 beers out). Came home and we decided to share the remainder of a bottle of red – a few sips each before we tipped away both glasses, it had gone vinegary grin

B – none
L – spicy veg soup with roll
D – chickpea and chorizo stew
S – Ugh. Twix bar and a grab bag of quavers. Oh and a cappuccino and two biscuits. AND a glass of wine.

Such a fool. Still, I’ve lost 1lb since Monday and I’ve maintained that so I’m not going to beat myself up too much.

B – none
L – pasta with cheese, tomato and cucumber
D – no idea. Fishfingers and veg if I get my way grin
S – I have 2 biscuits with me and a pack of jaffa cakes. I’m going to aim to not eat the entire pack of jaffa cakes. If I go out tonight I will either have 2 gin and slimline tonics or 1 glass of wine.

Milly soup sounds lovely. My favourite ever is curried parsnip (ooh and broccoli and stilton)

Wellies well done on having breakfast – I really need to do that.

Amanda Maybe try something other than fasting and mini-fasts for a while? You’re so tired, it’s no wonder you’re hungry and you need food to keep going. Xxx

I wonder why us women have such a different relationship with food to men? My DH is super slim and generally eats very well but it doesn’t worry him to eat sausage rolls, crisps, etc. He’s lost his six pack and I don’t look at him and think “ugh” but I feel he looks at me and thinks “ugh” because I’m no longer a size 6 (as I was when we met). Of course, he doesn’t but I wonder if this is the pressure of the media telling us we should all want to be like Cheryl Cole, etc? It does concern me, especially as I know I look at these women in magazines and I feel sad that I’m pale, not at all toned, lumps and bumps, etc. It’s really battered my confidence and I think that comes across in how I am with people now. In my teens, I was super confident and felt beautiful, I’d get a lot of attention from the opposite sex and I felt great. Now I honestly feel ugly, I look in the mirror and I’m disappointed. I’m absolutely sure my DH doesn’t feel like that when he looks in the mirror. I envy men for this.

I’m also aware that I am shallow. I had to admit to DH last night that I’m scared to come off the pill. My skin is amazing now and beforehand it was terrible. I’m scared of weight gain. I’ve never been happy with my body and I doubt very much I’ll be happy with it after pregnancy. Does every woman feel like this or am I just not really ready to TTC?

Goodness, very deep thoughts from me today! So. Anyone have any nice plans for the weekend?


TheRealAmandaClarke Fri 15-Nov-13 11:39:08

I can't speak for every woman Hazel but I feel/ felt like that.
Women are judged by the way they (we) look. It's a true feminist issue and an integral part of our patriarchal culture that objectifies females.

It is possible, IMHO, that you are panicking prior to ttc. Pregnancy will change your body. But everyone is different in this regard. The younger you have DCs, the better chance you have of springing back IYSWIM.
I am as slim now as before I had my DCs and I had my first when I was 39 shock.
I am more confident than I was in my 20s tbh, even though i am more lined etc.
Ageing will change your looks and your figure anyway. We all just have to learn to live with it. And maybe try to break free from the pressure to look a certain way. I feel a responsibility to be less "shallow" now as the mother of a dd.
Imvvvho, fear of sagging/ stretch marks is not a reason to not have children. There are many reasons not to, but not this. Time will do its own thing anyway.

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 15-Nov-13 13:44:42

You speak much sense Amanda
I think I am panicking a bit. I think I’m panicking about the whole lot. Pregnancy, childbirth, baby(!), poo, vomit, crying, illness, school, teenagers – it’s not just having a cute baby – I’m setting myself up for a life of proper responsibility. Seems impossible given the fact that in my head I’m still 18. I’m very worried about how it’s going to change my relationship with my friends who have chosen not to have children/have grown up children. They’ve already made it clear they won’t want to be so involved in my life (which leads me to question what sort of friends they are to be honest) when I do have a child. Then I have to think that I have lovely friends who do have young babies and who I’m enjoying spending more and more time with. I know I want children, I know now is actually a good time to get on with TTC, it’s just venturing into the unknown which petrifies me grin

Goodness, completely off topic! Sorry! xx

TheRealAmandaClarke Fri 15-Nov-13 17:46:09

Oops! there you go. Answering your own question wink
It is scary.
But if I can do it (and enjoy it) at my age with no outside help then you will be fine (tired and terrified, but fine)
You'll always have us grin

MillyRules Fri 15-Nov-13 22:50:39

Hazel The pill mimics being pregnant in a way so pregnancy might also give you amazing skin.
I felt scared stiff to begin getting pregnant and quite scared when I actually got pregnant immediately BUT when I got used to the idea I completely changed. I loved being pregnant and the only thing that mattered was having my baby. Once the baby came the last thing I really worried about was me or my weight. Babies just seem to change you and your world. I had my first when I was 29 and my second when I was 30. Never thought about being a Mum until we actually decided to go for it and having been through the whole thing now I loved every single minute of being a Mum. Surprised myself really.

MillyRules Fri 15-Nov-13 22:59:08

Was my Wedding Anniversary today. My husband bought me a beautiful bunch of flowers, large box of chocolates, more chocolates, a very large box of Chanel Number 5. He took me to the pictures and then we went to our favourite little restaurant for dinner. Lovely day.

Me today:

Chocs and cup of tea
half a banana
Gammon, pineapple and salad
Crème Brulee

Ha ha!!

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 16-Nov-13 00:55:41

Happy Anniversary Milly
Lovely celebrations thanks

SlightlyDampWellies Sat 16-Nov-13 10:15:13

Happy Anniversay Milly!!

What a lovely way to spend your day. thanks

Hazel I have started a post several times trying to respond to your fears and worries and how I felt also, but find I cannot quite articulate properly what I mean. I am mulling on it and will reply properly soon, I promise. But, the upshot is that what you worry about and fear could have been written by me also. I was terrified of being pg, and what it would do to me and my body which I loathed, and was worried about my body image etc. But somehow, the reality of having a baby is just so wonderful- despite all the very real difficulties and changes it makes to everything that it makes it worthwhile. I know you will have heard that before, but it really is very true on a visceral level. What Milly wrote is also my experience.

It is also true that some friendships drift or scale down when you have children because the pressures on your time is different. If people are saying they will not be bothered with you if you cannot go out and do the same things- well, they are toxic people that you may find you are better off without howver painful it may be at first. Real people understand how life changes, and will accommodate that somehow. I have a friend who is a real party animal, dedicated single girl etc (we are all in our 40s) and a career girl and so on. I see her rarely now, but when I do, it is because she has come to stay for a weekend and she chills down to our level. She gets that I cannot go out on the lash for a weekend in Amsterdam. So she comes to us.

My thoughts are a bit all over the place, but yes what you fear is exactly what I feared. I will try and get something coherent together and post again when I have. smile

MillyRules Sat 16-Nov-13 11:50:43

Thank you smile There was lots of lovely food on the menu by the way but I hadn't had gammon for so long that my mouth watered at the thought of it smile

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 16-Nov-13 15:32:31

Have some very....untidy? thoughts about ttc and having my DCs.
I was scared. Of all the things that everyone has said.
And sometimes I am still scared. grin
But in a way, having my DCs has put some of that, well, all of it really, in perspective.
Obviously I am aware that I was very fortunate to conceive and if I hadn't been, that would have put a few things in perspective too.
When I am 80 (should I make it so far) I doubt anyone will be able to tell whether my tits are as pert as they would have been had I chosen not to have kids grin
Anyway, that's all just me talking rubbish.(2 hours sleep lt night. I kid you not)
Just to say: folic acid supplements. Important.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 16-Nov-13 15:33:29

milly mouth watering at the prospect is the way to choose a meal.

MillyRules Sat 16-Nov-13 18:31:56

Went to do the shop today but went to Boots first. Bought a gorgeous red nailpolish in the Boots range called Salsa. Its a lovely warm deep bronzy red, a highlighting conceler and a free rosy pink nailpolish. (Buy 3 get one free).....and also got a free present which was a deep pink full size lipstick, full size lipgloss and lip pencil. Yay!!!!! Good day.

food today.

Applewood Smoked Cheddar with red grapes

homemade chicken curry, popadoms and chutney with fresh coriander leaves and yoghurt

Real vanilla icecream.

a few of my chocolates.

SlightlyDampWellies Mon 18-Nov-13 09:48:01

Hello everyone! Hope you are all having good days.

Another visit to the counsellor today. I have managed to have breakfast every day, even if yesterday was just a cereal bar. I have also put on two pounds GRRRR........ but we had friends over last night and it was a huge meal of roast lamb with trimmings so probably not fair to weigh in this morning! Am planning on making a veg soup today, as feel the need for a few veg days.

Hope everyone is fine and well. smile

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 18-Nov-13 11:31:51

Morning all,

Thank you all so much. I feel much better now I know my fears are normal. I actually had a huge chat with DH on Friday night as I admitted I was scared. He’s scared too. We discussed putting it off for another month or so but I don’t think we’re going to. I take my last pill next Tuesday (I think, was a bit bleary eyed this morning so didn’t look properly) and that’s that. I have a prescription for another 6 months worth but I’ve not put it in and I don’t think I’m going to. EEEEEK! I’ve told my wonderful DSIL but that’s it. Oh, DH knows of course grin I’m excited. Really excited. I must be giving off “I want a baby” vibes as yesterday my friend told me to try out her pushchair around the village (with her baby in it, of course) so I could see how nice it was grin I have friends and family with small babies/children so I will still have a reasonable number of people to see and talk to even if the other friends distance themselves.

Amanda I take a multi-vitamin at the moment but will buy some folic acid today. Do I need any other supplements? What about pregnacare stuff? Is that worth (the frankly extortionate) price tag? I am completely clueless about this. I’ve just had a look at the foods I need to avoid – OMG! shock

Happy Anniversary for Friday Milly sounds like you had a lovely time!

Wellies Well done on having breakfast every day, that’s brilliant. I hope today goes well with the counsellor. X

I hope you managed to get a bit more sleep over the weekend Amanda

So, I managed to lose 2lbs last week – hurrah! ANNNNNNND then I stepped on the scales this morning. 3lbs on. angry It’s not really a surprise but I’m cross with myself.


B – none
L – pasta with cheese, tomato and cucumber
D – scampi, chips and baked beans
S – 2 biscuits, 2 175ml glasses of white wine, 1 shot amaretto

(My bloody post from Friday has just reminded me I have a pack of jaffa cakes in my drawer. Doh.)

B – cheese omelette
L – sausage roll
D – Takeaway curry (chicken tikka chilli massala) with rice, poppadum and naan.
S – 2 175ml glasses of white wine, 1 200ml bottle of prosecco, 1 proper bottle of cava.

Sunday: One very large hangover
B – bacon and egg
L – sausage roll
D – lamb shank with mash & veg
S – cheese, ham and mustard on toast, full fat coke, green & blacks sea salt choc, 2 glasses of low % wine, 1 200ml prosecco, 1 175ml glass of white wine, 1 large glass red wine.


B – boiled egg with soldiers which would have been lovely had the egg actually cooked. So I binned it.
L – ham, cheese, tomato, pasta with Dijon mustard
D – chicken stirfry with veg, no noodles
S – bag of quavers. Now avoiding the jaffa cakes.

No alcohol today. This week is going to be shocking on food (and drink) – I’m in Amsterdam for work on Wednesday and Thursday, then out for Thai and ice cream on Saturday.

I’ve got my pedometer on today and I’ve only done 1794 steps. I did 1k of these before work. I really do just sit on my arse all day blush

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 18-Nov-13 12:53:06

Vitamin c, vitamin d, folic acid.

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 18-Nov-13 13:01:28

Thanks Amanda smile

MillyRules Mon 18-Nov-13 17:01:19

I didn't really take anything for conceiving. We just decided to start trying and expected it to take awhile. Then "boom" pregnant straight away. I just ate what I could in the beginning as I nauseous a lot but found ginger nuts as soon as I woke up helped. After that just ate lots of meat fruit and veg as usual and listended to my body....I was growing a baby after all so I guessed my body knew better than me what it needed smile.
Exciting times Hazel...........!!!

SlightlyDampWellies Mon 18-Nov-13 18:02:39

How exciting Hazel!!!!!

It is scary, very true, but exciting also. Gosh. I am delighted for you. smile

I took pregnacare, but generally my diet was pretty good. I just wanted some insurance really. The list of forbidden foods, well, they freaked me right out and from one pg to the next they changed, and also my family are all abroad and what was forbidden there was different to here. So, I just avoided the obvious things (fish more than a couple of times a week; soft cheeses; liver etc) and then listened to my body for the rest of the time. The only thing that worried me is that for the first time ever, with DC3 I craved peanut butter and ate it, and he is the only one with a peanut allergy. Our allergy specialists said there is no concrete connection, but I feel like I caused that really.

My cravings tended to revolve around vitamin c and dairy.... cheese toasties and oranges were my everyday lunch.

Gosh, how exciting!!!!!!! Keep us posted!!!!!

SlightlyDampWellies Mon 18-Nov-13 18:05:40

Oh, saying I 'caused that', that came across in a scary way- the specialists we see say no way, just happenstance, but guilt is the first port of call for a mother!

MillyRules Tue 19-Nov-13 11:51:27

one poached egg on toast
one slice pizza, little salad and blob Mayo
Sticky chicken with rice almonds and brocolli and peppers.

3 slices Terrys chocolate orange
lots of tea

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 19-Nov-13 16:55:25


The second meeting with the counsellor was quite good, and this time she has asked me to keep a food diary- but more about what I am thinking when I eat, as I eat mindlessly.

Today has been a busy day with meetings and various bits and bobs but I ate breakfast, then had 3 cups of coffee, then took our bookkeeper out for a sandwich and had a chicken mayo toasted sandwich.

Have a few pieces of fish hanging around so plan to just crumb them. No veg so will do a pasta salad. Not interesting, but too much going on today!

MillyRules Tue 19-Nov-13 18:59:36

Glad it was a successful second meeting Slightly.

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 20-Nov-13 20:04:25


Hmmmm... me today;

Weetabix, milk, nuts and honey. Was not hungry but felt I needed to eat
Veg soup- I was cold and bored and I was procrastinating.
5 oven cooked chicken drumsticks- they were there
Dinner was ham, cheese, a slice of toast, chopped raw veg. My Dcs all have a cooked lunch at school/pre-school on Wednesdays so I did asnacky dinner.

No other news. I was supposed to be very active and doing lots of home stuff today, but got distracted by MN (again)!

How is everyone else?

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 21-Nov-13 08:33:18

Good going wellies and milly

I hate food right now.

I feel utterly overwhelmed by planning nutritious, timely, economic food for the family. It's astonishing how the act of arranging three meals a day for DCs and a DH can obliterate any actual enjoyment from food.
So I am eating all the time in a failed attempt to stave off tiredness.
In no time at all I am certain I will be back to being fat.
The next time I go to a toddler group and hear about helpful grandparents and consequent afternoons napping/ in the gym I think I will need admitting to hospital.

Today: raisin toast, porridge with honey, coffee.
L: soup
D: chicken Kiev.

SlightlyDampWellies Thu 21-Nov-13 10:53:30

Oh Amanda sorry, but you did make me laugh. The tone of utter utter fed-upness. thanks you need flowers.


Does your DH cook? Can he take over any of the meals?

Can you take all decision-making for breakfast and lunch away for a bit.... just have the same things every day for a while. So you do not HAVE to think of anything for two meals of the day and everyone still gets fed.

Dinners..... Make a pot of spag bol. That is today. Leftovers tomorrow can be turned into chilli and jackets. Leftover the third day can have a sheet of puff plonked on the top and that is a tomato-ey meat pie. One meal three ways. (I am crap at doing this myself I have to admit). Although for me today I was planning on making a creamy chicken casserole and turning that into a pie tomorrow also.

Your exhaustion...... you have been so so tired for so long you poor thing. I also do not have any family near by, and very few RL friends so I totally get that frustration. (I have a friend whose parents take her kids every afternoon..... I get weak at the knees with jealousy!). I cannot think of anything helpful about that at all.... but snacking to stave off exhaustion is normal and a few weeks of that is not going to hurt in the long run. Make a big bowl of popcorn? Hardly any calories depending on how you make it.

I wish I could just reach through the screen and make it better. <<<<hugs>>>>>>.

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 21-Nov-13 13:52:46

grin wellies
Thanks. Sorry to moan.

Yes DH does cook but he's slipped a bit lately. I have taken charge of meal planning as i'm on maternity leave and we were spending a fortune on food. DH tends to decide what he wants for dinner and shop for it all at about 4pm. That way worked well for us when I worked ft before DCs.
It's easy to eat mindfully that way, but it's not conducive to life with small DCs.
I'm ok. It's just the tiredness really. Hey HO.
Thanks for letting me ramble on.
Right. Off to the park. Again wink

MillyRules Thu 21-Nov-13 15:52:53

Amanda cooking for a family every day really does put you off the meals you cook doesn't it? I cook but really would prefer not to eat what I cook. IYKWIM!!!
It's easier to grab what you really want when you want it.

LegoCaltrops Fri 22-Nov-13 13:10:55

Hi everyone. Sorry I've been absent for a while. Various problems (bad internet connection, MIL & DM both being a pain, DD not well, DH nearly gave up his course, etc) plus I am utterly fed up of food.

Amanda I know what you mean about getting fed up of food. You can spend loads of time planning a healthy menu for the week, shopping & cooking it, & by the time you come to eat it, your appetite is totally ruined & you just want something else.

DD is ill today, has been 'off' for several days. She was massively sick the other day, living room now not the most pleasantly fragrant place I've ever been. We may have to chuck the rug. sad can't afford to replace it. She's asleep now but I can't put her down, very miserable (she's usually a really cheerful little thing).

Ho hum.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 23-Nov-13 06:29:08

Hi Lego good to see you. Sorry to hear about poorly DD. I hope she's feeling better. It's so miserable when they're not well.
DD has been grizzly for a few days. Usually mealtimes and through the night. I'm pretty sure it's her teeth.
It sounds like you've had a stressful time (((hugs)))

Yesterday I decided I would just try to eat mindfully.
I skipped breakfast as I wasn't hungry for it.
L: Soup and walnut bread (with butter blush)
D: 1 sausage, spoonful of beans, jacket potato (yes, with effing butter), 2 mini magnums.
S: 2 glasses of Rioja, 3 chocolate biscuits.
I am struggling to avoid snacking. Snacking is not good.

LegoCaltrops Sat 23-Nov-13 10:20:47

Amanda walnut bread - yum!
How old is your DD now, does she have teeth already or would these be the first? We found that DD was generally fine all day, grumpy at night when teething. Dose her up with Calpol etc before bed. (we do, she now calms down at the sight of the bottle. Bath, cuddle & story, teeth, Calpol, sleeping bag, milk. Tis part of the routine when teeth are coming!)

Thanks, DD appears to be on the mend now. (I've caught it now, I get better fast though so I'll just have a slob day today, & lots of vitamin c & I'll be ok tomorrow.)

On the plus side, I've got below 9st - just! Will weigh when I'm better.


LegoCaltrops Sat 23-Nov-13 10:23:45

Meant to say, Amanda don't stress too much about the butter. I'm coming to the belief that margarine is nasty & I mostly just use butter now. Just enjoy it as a treat & don't spread it too thick!

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 23-Nov-13 15:36:19

DD is 9 mo. she already has 7 teeth.
She's napping now after 2 nap fails earlier today. I need to wake her befo 4 pm. It's mainly after 1 am that she wakes very frequently. Hey HO. She'll grow out of it. I've started to give her nurofen or carpool at bedtime now and I think that helps her a bit at the front end. I might try call pol at bedtime, then some nurofen when she wakes around 1 to give her a better chance. But obviously I don't want to be doing that long term. The other week my friend's mother told me about the popularity of adding brandy to babies' bottles when we were kids grin fear not. I won't be doing that but I can see the appeal grin
I might try a small glass of red with my dinner though wink

I had a pancake with blueberry syrup for bakfast, some walnut bread, with butter and some Welsh cheese (just for you Milly), cucumber, bag of low fat crisps, 1 cookie for lunch. Oh and 3 chocolate buttons. Oops.
Spaghetti bolognaise for dinner.

LegoCaltrops Sat 23-Nov-13 18:17:41

Haha yes I've heard about the 'brandy in the bottle' thing as well. I can see the appeal, but Calpol & dentinox are definitely better. Save the booze for yourself!

SlightlyDampWellies Sat 23-Nov-13 20:15:40

Hey Lego so lovely to have you here again. smile

I agree about the butter issue. We have just moved to full fat milk because we think we want less of the good stuff rather than more of the icky stuff IYSWIM.

I was once so desperate with teething that when my DM dipped her finger in brandy for DC1 to suck I did not raise a whimper..... DC did though!

Amanda you sound knackered. I think a glass of something lovely is deffo what you need.

I am still stuck at 10 stone 7. envy at your under 9 stone Lego. Today, for a treat we took the Dcs to McDonalds. That is very rare indeed... the two youngest have never been. I managed to eat my Big Mac, finish off 2 lots of Happy Meals and eat 6 chicken nuggets. Clearly the counselling sessions are working. hmm. grin. No, I was just chomping, and kind of observing myself from the outside at the same time thinking 'how interesting...'

LegoCaltrops Sun 24-Nov-13 17:39:10

Wellies try not to stress about it. Do you remember what you were thinking about at the time - were you stressed, bored, absent-minded etc? I'm a boredom eater, so over the years I've realised I need alternate activities, knitting is my favourite at home.

Amanda hope you're feeling more energetic today. I vividly remember the feeling of total exhaustion during pregnancy & while DD was still small, caused by lack of sleep etc, it's so easy to reach for biscuits (they were my major downfall that caused epic gain during pregnancy). Have you spoken to a doctor about the tiredness, any chance you could be anemic or something?

I do feel rather odd today, had awful earache last night & took some paracetamol & tramadol, so I slept ok-ish. Woke this morning & it wasn't any better, spent an hour on bathroom floor before finally being sick which woke DH up. Ears still horribly painful, can barely swallow. Am going to doctor tomorrow if not better. I was going to make the Christmas cake today, can't face it (too dizzy & not sure about germs).

Hope everyone is having a better weekend than me!

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 25-Nov-13 15:18:21

Hi All,

Sorry for absence over last week – it’s been manic. Can’t remember all my food but it’s not been good. I’m weighing every day and it’s depressing me. I cannot shift this last half a stone. Nothing fits properly and I either look like I’m wearing a sack or I have a lovely spare tyre around my waist.

Healthy eating starts again today – ok, I will probably eat cheese this week as I have a soft, stinky one open and it is so yummy grin. Rather than saying “no alcohol” I have a goal to stay within the recommended daily amounts. I’m hoping I’ll naturally come off the alcohol. Meeting a friend for coffee tomorrow – must avoid all the high calorie yummy Christmas themed coffees and stick to something low cal.

B – pain au chocolat
L – homemade butternut squash soup with a slice of bread
D – no idea but DH will do something healthy I’d imagine
S – packet of crisps so far, 3 cups of tea.

Lego It’s lovely to have you back. How are you feeling today?

Wellies I can’t resist eating when I go to McDonalds. I could honestly just eat and eat and eat. I love it.

Amanda how are you today?

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 25-Nov-13 18:23:11

Quickly before bathing DCs.
I have eaten homemade cake and cookies today. Vicar was round. Honestly. grin
No meals. I have had a small amount of welsh cheddar and a quarter of an apple and a mouthful of spaghetti puttanesca which I made for DS.
Went to costa. My tip is to have tea, which I find bolstering, and avoids the delicious but deadly caramel latte type offerings.

Ok thanks. wink

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 25-Nov-13 18:24:24

lego are you feeling any better?

LegoCaltrops Tue 26-Nov-13 00:39:29

Hello! I agree, tea is very good for a warming low cal drink, no temptation to add any calories.

My cold has gone. However I've got horrendous earache, both ears. Plus a sore throat, can't swallow. Always a silver lining Having to take Tramadol & paracetamol just to get to sleep at night. (not kicked in yet) At least I've got this week booked off work, I wouldn't be able to go in (partly deaf ATM) & it's phone work.

I suspect Christmas is not going to help my diet. The Christmas cake has now been made & smells yummy!


SlightlyDampWellies Tue 26-Nov-13 07:41:31

Lego you poor thing, are you any better? I hope you get a decent week off, not a week where you are ill.

Hazel my healthy eating starts this week too. smile I wrote a food diary for the counsellor this week and realised that I snack more than I realise, and that I was low on fresh veg. I have been kicked into gear!

Hope everyone is fine and well. Hope you are getting some sleep Amanda.

LegoCaltrops Tue 26-Nov-13 09:38:32

Hi Wellies. Am feeling a bit better, thanks. However, this has been negated by this morning's weigh-in. Am back up to 9st. grr. Not fair. <stamps foot> I can't swallow without it hurting & I've put on weight. Nothing to do with scoffing Wispa bars while laid on the sofa the other day, too dizzy to stand up, oh no

Am going out for a walk today, to burn off the Wispa bum tis bloody cold here. Following Amanda's example in the hope it will give me some energy - please say it works Amanda! Hope you are feeling better today BTW.

I may keep a food diary. Just on paper, I suspect I snack more than I think. You've given me food for thought there, Wellies. (pun wasn't intended!)

Pie & Peas for dinner. No gravy though. that would be weird.


TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 26-Nov-13 10:41:20

Hi lego a walk in the cold sunshine is a great idea. It's all I have grin
No sleep. Tbh I am starting to worry about my mental health. Also, half a day on a p&cparking thread didn't help.
I don't know why i do it confused.
But why do people say such horrible things about parents. There's so much anger. I really hate reading stuff that talks about "precious mummies" and being "entitled" "just because yoou're pushed out a couple of sprogs" it's such ugly terminology. Maybe I'm over sensitive but it seems so aggressive and sneery. It gets me down.

In other news: I need a fasting day.

Well done with your diary wellies

LegoCaltrops Wed 27-Nov-13 10:46:27

I've just done a little plait on the top of DD's head for the first time ever, she looks so cute! (Much better than hair all over her snotty nose as well!) Am trying to teach her not to pull it out... I sense this is going to be a long, slow process! grin

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 27-Nov-13 10:50:41


Amanda how do you feel today? I hope you got some sleep.

Me- nothing to report- have loads of tasks and chores today, and no time it seems.

Food wise- planning to make roast chicken with cheesy potatoes and carrots.

LegoCaltrops Wed 27-Nov-13 10:59:25

Wellies Hope you're managing more fresh veg. How about vegetable pizza, or Ratatouille, or do they have to be raw?

Amanda If you're concerned about your lack of sleep, have you spoken to your doctor? Can you get someone to help sometimes so you can rest, even just a couple of times a week? I suspect fasting while you're so exhausted may be counterproductive as well. You've sounded so tired for so long now.

Try to ignore silly people who blather on about P&C parking. Until they've had a child or looked after one, they aren't really in a position to comment. They should keep their noses out. (I speak as a non car owner BTW, so I'm not defending 'my' right to park.)

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 27-Nov-13 11:05:24

Hi Lego, yes, it was a wakeup call! Yesterday I made veg soup and have just had a bowl. I also have some fresh spinach that needs eating so thought I would put it in the cheesy pots as well. It is funny, I would always have said I eat loads of veg, yet last week I was very very low on.

I agree with lego also, Amanda about maybe just dropping by the GP and telling them how you have been so exhausted. You have sounded really tired and low for ages. thanks

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 27-Nov-13 12:10:13


Amanda I just want to give you a big hug. I can’t really give any advice as I have no idea what it’s like to be so constantly tired but I’m here if you want to chat xx

Wellies Well done on upping the veg intake! Sometimes I go through periods where I sit back and think “Jeez, I’ve hardly eaten any veg this week!” and that gives me the kick up the bum to start eating it again.

Food diary:

B – pain au chocolat
L – homemade butternut squash soup with a slice of bread
D – Sausage and mash with carrots. I had 2 sausages but gave ½ of one to DH.
S – packet of crisps, 3 cups of tea, 3 crackers with cheese blush, 1 glass of red wine

B – pain au chocolat
L – homemade butternut squash soup, no bread
D – chicken fajitas
S – packet of crisps, toffeenut latte (with cream blush) in starbucks. No alcohol.

Weighed in this morning, no loss but no gain. Ideally I’d like to lose 2lbs by 5th, then another 2lbs by 12th. I’m not sure if this is going to happen but I’m going to try. I seem to have hit a plateau though. I’m due on this Saturday so that won’t exactly help my motivation.

Felt really energised last night (probably still on a sugar rush) so I finally sorted my wardrobe and drawers out, did a load of washing, made lunch and painted my nails. I feel pretty good today to be honest.

SlightlyDampWellies Fri 29-Nov-13 08:37:40

Hi everyone, sorry for the long silence. Have had a hard few days. Our cat has gone missing and we have been door knocking and leaflet dropping and I have not been on the net at all.

How is everyone?

TheRealAmandaClarke Fri 29-Nov-13 16:46:11

Sorry to hear about your cat. I hope he's home soon.

Thanks for everyone's kind words.
I am staying with my DSisIL for a while as the decorators are in at home.
I have therefore relinquished a good deal of responsibility for meals. grin
But I am still very tired. I would love a few nights of decent sleep. Hey HO.
O&D FRs.

LegoCaltrops Sat 30-Nov-13 08:31:04

Hi all.

Hazel am envy at the pastries & latte. yum. And the painted nails. Mine have not been painted for 3 weeks. Am lazy! grin

Wellies Hope your cat turns up alive & well soon.

Amanda You're going to have a lovely newly decorated house for Christmas (or at least, partly decorated). How lovely!

We're repainting the living room ATM, bit by bit, tis taking a very long time though. DH is doing some today. (Hope he doesn't do what I did, & drop a glass vase in the pot of paint, splashing it all over the laminate floor of our rented house!) Cue mad panic of me, alone in the house, trying to wipe it up before it dried & lost me my £750 bond. Thankfully, I managed it. The TV came off worst as I didn't bother wiping that until the floor was sorted (it's ours so no-one is going to fine me for that!) grin

Sore throat & earache still here, I think they are very slowly getting better. I'm glad I stashed some Tramadol after an op I had last year though, paracetamol isn't enough.

I'm going to try to buy a fleece jacket today to wear under my smart work coat. The walk up to work is bloody cold & if previous years are anything to go by, I'm going to need another layer.

Hope everyone has a good weekend.


MillyRules Sun 01-Dec-13 18:28:29

Hi Ladies, sorry I fell off the thread......
Wellies any news on the cat? Mine went missing a month ago. I was so upset. Searched high and low. He was missing 48 hours. Finally took the car out and went to the main road about half a mile away and there he was, sitting on the side of the road, totally lost. My son saw him as I didn't. Put him in the car and took him home. He has had so much fuss and food ever since. Silly Tom!!!

Lego hows the weight loss. A couple of questions for you:
how often do you listen to your PM cd and do you practice mindful eating always? Just wondered as you have done so well this year. smile

Amanda hows things with you. Have you always been a tired type of person or is this just a result of having kids. You sound so bad. Is there nothing you can do to get more sleep. Could your DH do the night wakes for a few days so you could get some quality sleep maybe?

SlightlyDampWellies Mon 02-Dec-13 13:32:48

Hello! Sorry, I have been awol too. Yes, thankfully we found our cat, under the floorboards of a neightbour's house. She has been badly spooked by something... she is quiet, and sleeping a lot but seems fine.

I have just eaten prawn toasts, spare ribs and chicken with cashew nuts at a Chinese place while out shopping. sad Grrrr.

hope everyone is well, R

MillyRules Mon 02-Dec-13 13:39:01

I'm so glad you found her Welliesgrin

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 02-Dec-13 20:19:39

Hurrah. I'm so pleased you found your cat Wellies

Ok here.
B: toast and marmalade, 1 American pancake (small), apple
L: roast tomato soup with bread
D: chicken pie, veg, yogurt
Snacks: lots of tea, m&s chocolate marzipan, chocolate seashells. blush

MillyRules Mon 02-Dec-13 20:33:30


Red pepper omelette with grated cheese

2 small slices pizza

4 pieces of Terrys chocolate orange

plenty of cups of tea.

LegoCaltrops Tue 03-Dec-13 08:50:02

Hi everyone!

Wellies I'm so glad you found your cat.

Milly I used to listen to the PM track every night, but less often now, probably once or twice a week. And yes, mindful eating all the time. But TBH, it's not so much about stopping eating before I feel full, just paying attention to when I start to feel full IYSWIM. My appetite has reduced so much since doing the PM that I can't physically accommodate the same volume of food I used to be able to eat. I used to be able to eat a full adult pub meal & pudding, now I would be happy with a decent starter, or a light salad with protein, & a glass of fizzy water. I still love my dark chocolate though! grin

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 03-Dec-13 11:32:06

Morning everyone.

Me today:

bk - muesli and banana. full fat milk
L- steak and ale pie
D- sweet chicken, apple and raison curry with rice and raita.

Thanks everyone for the good wishes about our cat. smile We are so relieved. Now however she is telling me she wants to go outside again. Not yet I think. I can't cope with the stress!

MillyRules Tue 03-Dec-13 13:18:16

Lego that's the same for me. I just cant eat much anymore. After a couple of mouthfuls I check in and find that I am satisfied and not hungry anymore so I stop. Am slowly losing the weight without having to deprive myself of anything. All Good.

LegoCaltrops Thu 05-Dec-13 18:50:32

Have had a difficult day. Stormy here (northern England). Had agreed to meet DH in between his classes today to go to supermarket, couldn't get there. Was windy in town, sideways rain, cover coming off buggy. Carried on (I know, aren't I stupid). Left main town area, came out from behind a tall building onto a long straight road, the wind nearly took DD in pushchair straight into the road. A lovely older couple saved us, I couldn't keep it upright & facing the right way, I was holding the handlebar & the wind was just dragging us closer to the road, full of cars. The older couple helped me get her back into the last shop on the corner & I burst into tears. Lovely shop lady called DH on my mobile to let him know I wasn't coming. Horrible experience. DD was screaming, & I don't think I've ever been so frightened in my life.

Hope the rest of you have had better days than I have!

SlightlyDampWellies Fri 06-Dec-13 10:03:25

Oh Lego how terrifying. I am so glad you are okay, but how terribly terribly frightening. thanks

I hope today is a much better day. I know how you keep replaying that sort of thing too- my DS is a bolter and he slipped from my grasp in the B&Q car park a few months ago, and ran in front of a car, which thankfully stopped in time. I was hysterical, and have had nightmares ever since.

Hugs to you. xxx

MillyChristmas Fri 06-Dec-13 12:18:15

God * Lego* .....nightmare or what.!!!! Glad the lovely people helped you. fsmile

LegoCaltrops Fri 06-Dec-13 15:42:43

Thanks. I'm glad those people were there too! I don't feel as stupid today, apparently lots of people got caught in it, & there are a number of very large trees down in the last couple of days. DD is fine, but the pushchair is wonky, it may be damaged. I'm just glad she's ok though.

Noideawheretotakethedcs Sat 07-Dec-13 08:46:46

Oh Lego you poor thing. I read your post and just cried. Thank goodness for a happy ending. I would have been so frightened.

Not weighing myself, but bought a size 8-10 onside which is nice and loose and my skinny jeans are loose, so I guess that will have to do.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 07-Dec-13 08:50:37

Oops fblush
Cover blown

SlightlyDampWellies Sat 07-Dec-13 10:33:47



I am about to do a seasonal namechange. Amanda you were great at the Halloween one- any ideas?

Amanda are you okay? Have you been sleeping? You were so deeply stressed and low, am wondering how you are.

lego how are you feeling today?

I am a bit low today. DH and I shared two bottles of wine last night and I feel rotten. Having a chippie lunch and an alcohol-free day.

MillyChristmas Sat 07-Dec-13 12:23:00


WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Sat 07-Dec-13 20:43:05



WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Sat 07-Dec-13 20:43:53

Thanks Milly

LegoCaltrops Sat 07-Dec-13 21:27:50

Hi all. Am still feeling low with this blasted sore throat & earache, it's been more than a fortnight now. House awash with empty paracetamol boxes. Doctor useless. sad Tip: never Google your symptoms. It doesn't help!

Our new Aldi opened recently. I love it! Although it's quite a walk from our house, should help our fitness levels <eyes own belly & that of DH>.

I'm nearly there! I've only got a about 3lb left of my baby weight and TBH it's all on my mid section, due to my swelling up like a balloon in the last trimester. Does the skin ever fully shrink back?


TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 07-Dec-13 21:32:01

Brilliant Milly. I love that name for wellies
wellies hope you enjoyed the chips.

I am thinking of a Christmas name.

MillyChristmas Sat 07-Dec-13 22:51:51

Oooo Glad you liked it.

WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 08:44:17

Hi everyone, hope you are all fine this morning.

I am fine..... have been eating like crazy though, Saw my counsellor again yesterday and she thinks that because I feel out of control in my regular life (being able to stand up for myself regarding guests coming to stay for 24 weeks of the year for example) I practice control by being obsessive in my eating. Mind you, I do not feel that in control of my eating!!!

Feeling a little low today. I rang a friend for her 40th birthday and she told me she had started counselling. After talking about that for a while I mentioned I was also seeing a counsellor as have been not on top of things lately. She snapped 'what the fuck have you got to be depressed about? You have children and a husband. I work at fucking B&Q' and slammed the phone down. I ought to call back, but do not have the stomach for it as I know she will expect an apology from me, and although I know how lucky I am, I still have my own issues which are valid too. I need to think about what to do. I am jst giving myself a day or two to think about what to say to her.

Anyway, plan for today:

B- cheerios and milk
L- tuna mayo and salad sangwich
D- chicken and veg soup.

WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 08:45:15

sorry for whiny post. blush

WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 11:08:37

sigh. I sent an e-mail saying I was sorry if what I said made her upset, but that even if things look perfect on the outside life has a habit of being difficult sometimes. And that I hoped she is okay and had a lovely birthday dinner with her parents.

Ojh well. I am just going to leave it for a bit. We have always had a bit of a troubled on/off friendship.

Tomorrow is one of the few nights that DH and I will be able to eat dinner together for days and days so I am planning on roast duck, sour cherry sauce and all the trimmings. MMmmm.....

MillyChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 11:56:49

Wellies She was very much the one out of order here and she should be apologising to you. I'm sorry she made you feel so bad. No one has the right to do that. We all have our own paths to walk and we are all different. You needing counselling for you is just as valid as it is for her. You did a very altruistic act by sending her that email rather than telling her where to go so well done you. I wouldn't have blamed you if you had told her where to go though cause she deserved it.

MillyChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 11:58:42

Is she a genuine close friend Wellies . Does she ever support you.? Or does she just phone you to unload upon you. She seems very selfish and self centered.

MillyChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 12:11:59

Wellies Your counselor has hit upon something here with the comment that you don't stand up for yourself. Would I be right in thinking that the on off relationship you have with this friend is all about her offs and ons and that you just apologise to her when she is annoyed with you.....yet you don't actually do anything that needs apologising for !!! shock

WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 12:47:51

Thanks a lot MIlly. I think what you say makes a lot of sense. My thoughts are a bit all over the place right now. I tried to respond to what you said properly, but they came out jumbled. smile

She does phone mainly to unload it is true. And everything is always someone else's fault which I find tiring. I think counselling is a great move for her. (And me!!!!).

I am going to reflect and post later.


MillyChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 14:42:42

Wellies your Counselor could help you with your self esteem and how to stop attracting negative people into your life and how to say "No" to people. Your food issues are manifestations of what is going on in your life. You need to work on your past before you can sort out your eating. Once you can do that your eating will normalise itself. Food issues are generally a "coping" device.

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 10-Dec-13 17:37:44

wellies try not to take what your friend said to heart. I think she was just lashing out and she will probably apologise. It sounds as though she's really struggling and might just have been wrong footed by the pace of the conversation. I know that'sno excuse to hurt you though. You're doing so well to be tackling these issues and You've been a real inspiration to me personally.
Counselling wouldbe ideal for me right now. A few days at my mother's and I'm ready for an inpatient assessment and some serious medication.
Bla bla bla frs.grin

WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 19:50:27

Milly your post above is almost word for word what my counsellor said as well! She asked me this week to stop and think before I do anything and ask myself 'who am I doing this for? Who am I trying to please?'.

Thanks Amanda. thanks Yes, I know she was lashing out also. I know she desperately wants a husband and a family more than anything. Usually I think I am sensitive to that, but clearly hit a nerve last night!

WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 19:56:25

Anyway, on another note.... I taste tested the DCs mac and cheese to the extent that I could not eat any actual dinner. grin.

Am currently enjoying a glass of wine- a rare weekday treat.

O&D FRs!!

MillyChristmas Tue 10-Dec-13 22:07:03

Me today...
couple of spoons of mince and onion ( whilst making lasagna)
4 squares galaxy choc
Home made lasagna slow cooked for 8 hours with vintage welsh cheddar white sauce in.( yum!!!) chips and salad.

cups of tea

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 11-Dec-13 06:46:24

Back home today. These last few days have been very stressful so I'm looking forward to entering the relative calm of an upside down, just decorated, "tidied" by dh home. fgrin

LegoCaltrops Wed 11-Dec-13 07:26:01

Hi all.

Wellies I'm sorry your friend was so impatient about that. Sometimes I think that people feel that their own problems are so big they can't see past them & realise that other people might have problems to deal with too. Hopefully she will thaw/apologise. If not, it doesn't sound like she's actually that helpful a person to have in your life.

Amanda Glad you're home to 'peace & quiet'! grin

Milly your food sounds delicious, as always.

DD appears to be teething again - her back molars this time. Not fair, she's only 19m & we can't explain to her why her mouth hurts. At least after this, there will be no more. Is it normal for their mouth to bleed when you brush their teeth when they are teething like this? It clearly hurts. Poor baby. sad


TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 11-Dec-13 19:11:29

<holds lego's hand teething is yucky.

Hazelbrowneyes Thu 12-Dec-13 15:07:57

Have been a rubbish revolutionary recently sad

Busy day here so can't type too much but promise to be back tomorrow!

Hope you're all ok x

WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Fri 13-Dec-13 06:47:19

Good morning everyone. Lego teething is awful. Poor DD and poor you.

[waves] Hazel. I have been rubbish too. Last night ate gammon, roast potatoes, carrots and peas. I am determined to have something vegtarian today!

DH and I are trying to be alcohol-free entirely during the week- the success has been patchy but he brought home Lambrusco. Only 4 units per bottle, so we polished that off. Yum! It felt like we were drinking something with our meal, but almost guilt free! It is sweet though, so not sure it is going to be much better for the waistline!

Me today:

B- cheerios and ss milk. (have developed a cheerio habit).
L- aiming for a simple cup of soup and a chicken and tomato sandwich, but a stressful day ahead an I do comfort eat.

D- not sure.... I need something heavy on the vegetables, but also toddler friendly. Might just do broccoli pasta with extra veg on the side.... hmmmm. [muses]

Have great days everyone!!

TheRealAmandaClarke Fri 13-Dec-13 07:26:01

Hi fellow revolutionaries.
This is definitely a tricky time of year for "being good" around food.
I am going to try to substitute comfort eating for comfort drinking. But tea, or a low ish calorie coffee drink, rather than alcohol of course.
I'll let you know how it goes. grin
Broccoli pasta sounds good wellies I have discovered that ds seems to like a pasta bake.

MillyChristmas Fri 13-Dec-13 12:44:51

Hi Ladies
Amanda that's the good thing about doing PM. I just eat whatever I want. Christmas is no different. It used to be hard when I dieted as I was always on or off a diet and beating myself up all the time and felt so bad.

MillyChristmas Fri 13-Dec-13 12:50:18

me yesterday

nut granola with honey and fresh mango slices

Roast chicken, carots,peas and broccoli with port and cranberry gravy

3 Foxs chocolatey biscuits

lots of cups of tea


half a thick cut bacon sandwich with Heinz ketchup
half a sausage sandwich with said ketchup

3 squares of Cadbury fruit and nut chocolate.


Homemade curry, oven baked potatoes ,popadoms, chutney.


probably chocolate but not sure yet.

LegoCaltrops Sun 15-Dec-13 08:23:59

Hi FRs

I've not been very good recently - still not feeling fab, so am comfort eating a bit, plus we've got a new Aldi in town, so we've been trying out all the lovely things they sell. excuses, excuses On the plus side, it's a couple of miles walk, which is decent exercise when we have to lug the shopping back in backpacks & fully laden heavy pushchair. So I'm consoling myself with that!

Sorry, can't say much, mobile site is misbehaving. O&D FRs

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 16-Dec-13 09:43:57

Hi FRs
milly your food sounds great as usual.

((*lego*)) poor thing. Comfort eating is a problem for me too (fo all of us at times I think, hence the usefulness of this thread). fenvy about your new aldi. Have a Lidl thought nd I love walking there to pick up bargains and delicious Christmassy treats.
Lasagne tonight.
Just had a couple of spoons of muesli.
Trying to eat mindfully. Although I would love to get one fast in before Christmas.

MillyChristmas Wed 18-Dec-13 20:33:42

Hi Ladies

Hows all your Christmas shopping going? I still have another day but went out yesterday to do some. Will do the food shop in the early hours of the morning when the supermarket is empty. Lol!!!

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 19-Dec-13 06:18:51

Good idea Milly.
Nearly done. No food yet though (apart from my secret stash of turkish delight.)
I fasted on Tuesday. It was good. I'd forgotten ow much I like it tbh.
But last night I had a couple of glasses of wine to smooth the wrapping of gifts and then I gave into a bread and crisp craving fblush

LegoCaltrops Thu 19-Dec-13 07:04:14

Hi FRs. Nothing much to report, just checking in. it's absolutely pelting it down outside, has been for days. I've nearly wrapped all the presents. We may have gone a bit overboard on what to buy DD. grin Still, hopefully more good toys = less TV watching time. (Her TV time is the main area I feel we fall down as parents.)

I almost forgot, DH has got an offer from his first choice university. Now he needs to work hard & get the good marks they have asked for. All cross your fingers!


TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 19-Dec-13 09:02:25

Great news lego. Well done to your DH and good luck for those grades. <crosses fingers and toes>

LegoCaltrops Thu 19-Dec-13 13:01:02

Thanks Amanda. He's upstairs working on one right now. I am scoffing cheese on toast with DD!

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 19-Dec-13 13:16:26

fenvy. I love cheese on toast.
Blueberry muffin (homemade) for breakfast. Coffe. Half a banana
Eating falafel and salad in pita for lunch. (made me think of twinkle. I really hope everything's going well), a few crisps, tea.
Will have risotto for dinner.

I have resisted a couple of greedy snack temptations today (includingnot tearing a lump off a block of marzipan and cramming it into my piehole) so
I feel quite good about that fgrin

MillyChristmas Thu 19-Dec-13 21:09:34

Me today

M & S YumYum and a cup of tea
one slice of bread with salty butter and a banana sliced up on it
homemade chicken curry, 3 popadoms
one Bendicks mint
one M & S mince pie and cup of tea


Hazelbrowneyes Fri 20-Dec-13 08:49:42

Morning! Sorry for absence. Back up to 9st 3lbs which I'm annoyed about but I'm drinking most nights, eating a lot of cheese and chocolates so I can't blame anyone but myself really!

I came off the pill at the end of last month and OMG the difference. After a week of headaches and 4 separate occasions of feeling like my left ovary was going to burst, I feel so much better. Stuff that would normally keep me awake with worry hasn't bothered me, I've stopped obsessing over my weight (buying a bigger dress for NYE may have helped with this fgrin and I'm happy. I'm 8-10lbs heavier than I'd planned to be at this time but it doesn't matter. It really, really doesn't. Admittedly it would be nice if my jeans fitted but they don't so I'll wear dresses and skirts instead fgrin

B - pain au chocolat
L - mugshot
D - sausage, mash and peas
S - low fat crisps, caramel shortcake & 5 chocolates. Oh and wine.

B - pain au chocolat
L/D - spiced camembert parcels, venison, chocolate & hazelnut mousse
S - loads of wine and possibly cheese & biscuits tonight if I'm peckish

Oh yes, today is my last day at work and christmas party time. WOOHOO! We finish at 12, lunch at 1. So excited!

January is my time to start properly with the healthy eating again. I'm going to try to be reasonably sensible over Christmas because I don't really want to put on a huge amount of weight over Christmas but equally I'm not going to deprive myself. In January we start TTC so I'll be ditching the lovely gooey cheese and of course, the alcohol will go. I'm going to start exercising again too as I've really missed that. I'm completely in the mindset for it I think.

Anyone have any nice plans over the festive period?

Tomorrow is a tidy day, I think. We've just had a new boiler fitted so the house is in a bit of a state. Sunday I'm seeing my Dad, Monday out with friends. Christmas Eve we'll see friends for drinks and I'm going to the church service with other friends before back to the pub. Christmas Day at my mums and the PIL, Boxing day with friends and then it's CHILL. I will go to work over Christmas to do a stock check but apart from that I have no plans.

Sorry for being a rubbish revolutionary recently, will try harder fgrin (also sorry for the lonnnnnng post!)


TheRealAmandaClarke Fri 20-Dec-13 19:22:16

Great post Hazel. I'm so pleased for you to be feeling so good. And I really want some cheese and wine now.
I wish you all the best with ttc too.

milly good menu, of course.

Feeling sorry for myself as I have mastitis. So painful with flu-y symptoms. This has seriously interrupted my housework/ Christmas baking schedule fangry
But it's had the knock on effects of bashing my appetite. Every cloud.....
B: 1 crumpet, coffee. Oh, btw. Aibu to have dropped half aforementioned jammy crumpet on the bedroom carpet because dh had secretly cut it in two? Who cuts a crumpet in half?
L: cheese and cucumber sandwich, yogurt, pear, apple.
D: nothing.
Snacks: conker- sized lump of marzipan fblush, few cups of tea. If dd settles well I might ave a glass of wine while I wrap some presents.

MillyChristmas Fri 20-Dec-13 22:36:15

Thanks Amanda ...I love food I do grin .

MillyChristmas Sat 21-Dec-13 13:02:59

Amanda sorry about the mastitis sad

MillyChristmas Sat 21-Dec-13 13:08:23

Wellies how's the counselling going?
Lego how's you?

MillyChristmas Sat 21-Dec-13 13:10:42

Hazel glad your feeling better after coming off the pill. Those things seriously can mess with your body as they mimic the affects of pregnancy hormones I'm told. smile

MillyChristmas Sat 21-Dec-13 13:12:22

Lego Good Luck to your DH for his grades.grin

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 21-Dec-13 20:33:09

Oh dear.
I have fallen down the stairs and have a big fat ankle. So no walking for me tomorrow fangry
And someone has sent us a large tub of celebrations.
Which I have opened.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sat 21-Dec-13 20:33:49

Thanks milly

WeWishYouAWelliesChristmas Sun 22-Dec-13 08:15:36

Hi all- sorry for absence, things are manic. Amanda hope your ankle is better soon.
will read back and write later- Dcs are up and I need to get them their milk.

thanks all. Will be a better revolutionary,.... just feeling overwhelmed right now.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sun 22-Dec-13 20:40:46

Hi Wellies. I hope all is well with you. I'm sorry you're so burdened ATM.
Ankle is black and fat but I can walk on it so I reckon no fractures fgrin

I'd love to have a reasonably tidy house before Christmas day. But I think I have more chance of laurence fox declaring his undying love to me and leaving billy piper grin

Snacking fblush as I made mince pies and gingerbread men today.
Hey HO.

MillyChristmas Tue 24-Dec-13 16:42:11

Hi Everyone....have a peaceful Christmas and lots of fun. Hope Father Christmas brings you what you want wink grin x

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 24-Dec-13 19:25:36

Hello FRs.
Thanks milly and to you.

Mince pies (homemade), chocolate cake, apple, celebrations, McDonald's veg deluxe with a diet coke, ginger glazed ham with baked potatoes and broccoli, 1 glass Chablis, ......

Can ou imagine what tomorrow's food will look like? fshock

Happy Christmas fellow revolutionaries.

LegoCaltrops Tue 24-Dec-13 19:31:38

Hi everyone. Sorry for absence, am not feeling fab still & feels like I never escape from work except to do the housework.

Hope your ankle gets better soon Amanda.
Wellies hope you're feeling less stressed.

Happy Christmas to everyone, have a fun/peaceful day (delete as appropriate!) And here's hoping we don't overindulge (too out much) & undo all our hard work! grin Says the one who had Christmas cake for breakfast

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 24-Dec-13 19:43:27

Housework sucks.

MillyChristmas Tue 24-Dec-13 20:33:09

Christmas cake for breakfast.....but of course followed by lots of chocolate. grin

LegoCaltrops Wed 25-Dec-13 07:01:36

Haha Milly I'm not denying that we opened the big box of biscuits last night. I accidentally ate four.

MillyChristmas Wed 25-Dec-13 09:14:43

LOL wink Tis the season to eat and be
merry grin

MillyChristmas Thu 26-Dec-13 02:22:59 Christmas Day...
5 chocolates
small handful pistachios
small turkey dinner
small piece Christmas cake
glass Shloergrin

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 26-Dec-13 07:53:36

Oh dear.
I have been practicing mindless troughing eating fblush
Happy Christmas FRs.

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 30-Dec-13 21:03:41

Eating a curlywurly.
And it's not my first.
And the only green thing I've eaten today was the jalapeños on my nachos.


SlightlyDampWellies Wed 01-Jan-14 08:33:04


I am sorry for absence- manic Xmas with IL's staying for a week, and then we all promptly got a D and V bug and have been bedbound for 3 days.

I am however feeling smug this morning being hungover free. Much better today- just ate a bowl of cheerios and feel a little woozy but am determined that I am getting back to normal.

I have made some fairly radical and savage New Year Resolutions;

1. Go vegetarian - I have been tinkering around the edges for years. I want to be veg for the entire year.

2. Go teetotal except for the very very rare glass - I find it is too easy to share a bottle of wine at night due to boredom and 'relaxing' after the DCs go to bed.

3. Actually take care of my appearance.... I always feel I 'do not deserve' to look good, have my hair cut, buy nice clothes etc 'until I have lost weight'. No more.

This is going to be my year of self confidence and health.

How are you all, my dear FR's??

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 01-Jan-14 09:41:51

Happy new year!

wellies you are inspirational as always.

SlightlyDampWellies Wed 01-Jan-14 12:21:12


well, we will see. I have a tendency to get despondent. smile


B- cherries and soy milk, half an apple, 3 cups of white coffee
L- nothing.
D- DH is making red lentil dhal with spinach and rice.

Drinks- herbal teas, and diet tonic water mixed with pomegranate syrup- nice and bitter and feels like a 'real drink'.

How was everyone's Chrismtas New Year? How are you Lego?

Our Christmas was pretty intense, and filled with way too much food and alcohol. The DCs were bored out of their boxes and a lot of time was spent sitting and chatting to family. That is nice, but I was itching to do something physical each day.

LegoCaltrops Wed 01-Jan-14 22:30:52

Hi everyone. Happy New Year!

Good idea, Wellies. Self Confidence & Health. I've pretty much got to my pre-pregnancy weight now, which is fine (ignoring slight Christmas podge) but I still feel very flabby, inevitable consequence of massive weight gain during pregnancy. So this is going to be the year of getting fit & healthy, for me. So I am going to try to:

Exercise more often, as well as regularly walking to work (& stop getting the shuttle bus)

Stop eating so much rubbish. Especially a problem when I'm overtired.

Make actual appointments to get my hair cut, in advance, so I will not go so long in between cuts & look like a crazy scruff. (That's for the confidence!)


TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 02-Jan-14 08:56:38

HNY Lego. Totally hear you about eating rubbish when tired. I think it's my main eating fault tbh.

Lovely christmas here thanks wellies. But I'm definitely ready to take down the tree and stop snacking on Christmas goodies fblush
I go back to work next week, which is pretty terrifying. dS starts nursery (logistical nightmare) the week after. Feeling a bit out of my depth. fgrin

Trying a fast today. We shall see fwink
Thinking of you all.

SlightlyDampWellies Thu 02-Jan-14 16:04:08

Good luck back at work Amanda. Bet you will settle in quickly.

I am going to be awol again for a few days. I just got called in for an urgent assignment for my previous employer. It will require some serious working to meet a deadline for Monday, and the money will be worth it [love desperate former bosses grin ]

I am a bit all or nothing and if I don't put my foot down hard and ban MNetting I will just lose the opportunity. So, hope everyone has a great weekend. [hugs]

TheRealAmandaClarke Mon 06-Jan-14 21:32:51

Hello FRs

I fasted today. It was great. So pleased.
Black coffee to sart the day. A weak options hot chocolate, a couple of white decaff coffees and for dinner I had salad leaves and a 2 egg omlette.
Also had a walk of a couple of miles ish.

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 07-Jan-14 07:09:04

Dizzy with tiredness, up most of the night sad

B: (yes, we've been up that long shock) toast with marmite. 2 teas, few pecans and dates. I have avoided the Christmas cake and shortbread calling my name <smug>

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 07-Jan-14 09:20:57

Hi All,

Happy New Year!

I weighed in yesterday…9st 6lbs. I spent 10 months last year getting from 9st 6lbs to 8st 12lbs and 6 weeks to put it all back on. I am not impressed. I am putting some of it down to coming off the pill. The rest is pure gluttony.

So we start again.

B – pain au chocolat
L – pea and ham soup with homemade bread roll
D – lamb madras with a small portion of rice
S – packet of low fat crisps, 3 cups of tea, 2 small crackers with stilton, 187ml bottle of white wine

Not great but a hell of a lot better than a week ago!

B – pain au chocolat
L – cheese and cucumber sandwiches
D – fish and veg
S – packet of low fat crisps, 3 cups of tea, no alcohol

Oh! Yesterday I exercised. Ok, you can all pick yourselves up off the floor now! wink 20mins on X-trainer, squats, weights and lots of abdominal crunches followed by a walk around the village. Felt great! Will do that again tonight.

Tomorrow things are going to go downhill again – a last minute trip to Belgium sees me up at 4am then a stressful day ahead, night in a hotel (which I still haven’t booked), home on an early afternoon train. Really not looking forward to it, but I don’t want DH to have to go on his own.

I’ve cut down my alcohol intake a lot since Boxing Day. I was even sensible on NYE. DH very impressed – I’ve more than halved my intake and it feels good. I’m enjoying not having a hangover.

TTC starts this month after AF arrived after 31 days – didn’t think this was too bad for the first month off the pill. Of course, I have no idea what the length of this cycle will be! I’ve worked out when I ovulate by the crippling pains that leave me unable to stand.

Ugh, this weather. I hope none of you are seriously affected by it? Our village is flooded. Two of the roads into/out of the village are closed, the river is still dangerously high, as is the canal and we’re onto yet another day of flood warnings. My friend lives in the centre of the village and was flooded yesterday. It was up to his knees outside his front door but luckily only affected his front room which is floorboards so as long as they don’t warp, he’s had a lucky escape! I live on a hill so we’re not really affected, although the chickens were a bit surprised by the overnight addition of a swimming pool to their coop. The village has suffered with the wind as well – a massive tree in the churchyard fell over Christmas and has damaged a lot of graves. We also had a lot of damage to houses and cars by falling roof tiles.

Very dark, wet and windy here again today. Fed up of this now – I like cold, crisp days, not wet and wild.

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 07-Jan-14 09:54:26

Buy an ovulation test.
Don't tell DH

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 07-Jan-14 10:19:21

Haha! I am tempted Amanda! I might pop out at lunch on Friday just to do a bit of shopping! wink

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 07-Jan-14 11:19:06

Hazel you are doing brilliantly!!! Oooh... TTC!!!!! I am so envious, wish I was.

Weather- have had power outages but that is it really. I worked myself into a derangement this past weekend. and need to do more, but am faffing by eating soup and cleaning and MN.

Amanda <<<hugs>> working and exhaustion, your poor thing. thanks

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 07-Jan-14 11:21:38

Thanks wellies

Well done hazel. Defo go shopping.

Just eaten assorted biscuits, cup of tea, yogurt for "lunch"

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 07-Jan-14 11:22:54

Oh and hazel check out the "aibu to want Sherlock to kiss me like that?" thread to get you in the mood grin

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 07-Jan-14 17:59:58

D: spag Bol, garlic bread. Small glass of wine. Petits filous?

Tomorrow I PLAN to fast.

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 07-Jan-14 19:20:27

I really never 'got' Benedict Cumberbatch.... but I saw that kiss too. mmmm.

Me today:

B- 3 white coffees
L- 1 can asparagus soup, 2 slices toast
D- rice, kidney bean stew and salad. (meh)

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 07-Jan-14 19:31:00

Ooh Wellies good menu. Ver healthy looking.

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 07-Jan-14 19:42:51

Thanks. smile I forgot to mention that my teetotal aim is going to pot, but I have deffo cut down, so that is good. Small victories and all that. smile

How was the return to work Amanda? Thinking of you! it is scary!!

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 07-Jan-14 20:05:57

Cutting down is good.

Not been in yet, what with one thing and another.
But thank you. I go back tomorrow shock

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 07-Jan-14 20:08:56

You will knock em dead. smile

TheRealAmandaClarke Tue 07-Jan-14 20:13:31

Oh bless you. grin

jenniferjain Wed 08-Jan-14 12:35:13

Everyday - Start a Healthy day

1 Cup Plain Greek Yogurt (I am biased to Chobani, but whatever you prefer)
1/2 banana, chipped
½ cup berries
1 Tbsp Chia Seeds
1 tbsp Ground Flax Seeds

Good Luck!

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 09-Jan-14 04:37:10

Ooh, yogurt. Nice.

I fasted yesterday.

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 09-Jan-14 08:36:08

B: prune activia yogurt, 1 piece shortbread, slice of Christmas cake, blush coffee.

Today I aim to avoid snacking.
I will also not have wine.

SlightlyDampWellies Thu 09-Jan-14 08:41:44

How was your first day back Amanda?

Me yesterday:

B- grapes and a clementine
L- cheese and tomato omelette
D- curried vegetables over rice

TheRealAmandaClarke Thu 09-Jan-14 20:02:26

It was ok thanks wellies. Although I appear to be less slick than before grin
Good menu btw.

I'm not sure I can near to record all of my food for today.
L: pizza and salad at pizza hut buffet blush
D: risotto. Strawberry ice cream. A chunk of DS's chocolate reindeer <guilt>. A biscuit blush.
Oh, and some garlic bread. Because one needs additional carbs with risotto hmm

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 10-Jan-14 09:08:52

Forgive me, Revolutionaries, for I have sinned.

Shall we start with Tuesday?

B – pain au chocolat
L – cheese and cucumber sandwiches
D – mini tapas board followed by salmon with chips
S – 3 cups of tea, 2 large glasses of wine

In my defence, we came home to a power cut so stress levels were high.

B – pain au chocolat
L – McDonalds – large fries and a hamburger
D – 2 x cheese croquettes (huge), steak and frites. Except I only managed half the steak and 5 chips out of the massive bowl
S – ½ bag of wine gums, 3 small glasses of white wine, 1 full fat coke, ½ bottle red wine.

B – cold meats, cheese, pain au chocolat
L – a snack pack of cathedral city cheddar and branston pickle
D – scampi & chips (deep fat fryer) with peas
S – 1 x low fat bag of crisps, handful of maynards sport mix (man that stuff is hard to chew), 1 x kinder bueno, no alcohol (woohoo!)

Managed no exercise at all, and I spent the majority of Weds and Thurs sat in a car.

9st 5lbs on the scales today. I have a lovely dress I want to wear at the start of next month and at the moment it’ll probably fit but I’ll look horrendous in it so the goal is to somehow work on the stomach (major problem area for me) and ideally get back to 9st. In about 3 weeks. Woe.

B – pain au chocolat
L – a picky lunch today: 2 hard boiled eggs, handful of cashew nuts with raisins, silverskin onions, a whole yellow pepper (cut, obviously!) and ¼ of a cucumber to eat with some disgusting looking crackers and mayo. I’m strangely looking forward to it!
D – no idea. Bound to be something out the freezer.
S – I have a bag of low fat crisps with me. Going to attempt no alcohol tonight.

I need to exercise as well.

Rubbish day ahead of me – busy and some crap to deal with but I need to just get on with it, pointless having it hanging over me for another week!

SlightlyDampWellies Fri 10-Jan-14 09:37:30

Good morning! Glad work went okay Amanda. You will soon get back into the swing of things. smile

Your menu is making me drool Hazel! Steak and frites. Mmmm. [rethinks vegetarian pledge].

Me yesterday - I sinned too.

B- cheerios, 3 cups of coffee with milk
L- blush Goose fat rended down to make it like crackling. Yuck. Truly grotesque.
D- Linda Macartney vegetrain burger with lots of salad and mayo. (Yum).



B- cheerios.
L- veg burger again with salad
D- planning on vegetable patties with mashed pots and green beans. Alcohol-free. Has to be, because I have a deadline for a US client of midnight my time.

TheRealAmandaClarke Sun 12-Jan-14 03:43:52

Thanks for your menu candour hazel I hope Friday was ok.

wellies. How did it come about that you had goose fat crackling? The low-carbers will be after you for their team you know.
I do like a vege burger.

B: crumpet with jam. Christmas cake. Coffee
L: 2 homemade choc chip cookies. Tea
D: spaghetti bolognaise

B: nothing
L: 2 crumpets. Christmas cake. Tea
D: 1 slice of homemade pizza. Garlic bread. Ready salted crisps confused
1 small glass of wine. 2 digestive biscuits.

Where is everyone?

I need to eat more veg/ fruit. Going to work on that.

SlightlyDampWellies Sun 12-Jan-14 12:42:53

Goose fat crackling is revolting isn't it!!!!! I just sliced the fat off the goose salted it liberally and put it under a hot grill.

My daily plans have gone to pot. On Friday DH got knocked off his bike and was in hospital until today having his shoulder and elbow repaired. He is fine, thank heavens, but I have been in no fit frame of mind to think about food! Yesterday may have involved an Indian takeaway. (All vegetarian though).

TheRealAmandaClarke Sun 12-Jan-14 14:07:03

Oh wellies sorry about DH. That must have been scary.
Get well soon wellies DH.

I love crackling. But never tried it from goose fat grin
Now I know not to try.

SlightlyDampWellies Mon 13-Jan-14 11:23:00

Thanks Amanda. He has been very cheerful, and determined he was going to start rehabilitation straight away (um, you have pins in your elbow ffs) and then has crashed. Bad night, and laid out on the sofa barely able to stand up. hmm But, could have been a lot worse, so we are thankful for that.

Me today:

B- leftover vegetarian indian (was so yummy)
L- not sure
D= not sure.

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 13-Jan-14 11:52:45

wellies I'm so sorry to hear about your DH. I hope he's feeling better soon.

B – pain au chocolat
L – a picky lunch today: 2 hard boiled eggs, silverskin onions, a whole yellow pepper (cut, obviously!) and ¼ of a cucumber with crackers and mayo.
D – fresh proscuitto filled ravioli with a homemade tomato and chilli sauce. Surprisingly yum!
S – I caved and had a few glasses of wine

B - bacon and egg
L - 2 half sized sausage rolls (there's no getting away from the fact this was ridiculously naughty!)
D - crab linguine
S - few glasses of wine, G&T

B - American style pancakes with maple syrup (I have my DSIL to thank for my current obsession with these!)
L - none
D - Oxtail stew, mashed potato, chunk of bread to mop up
S - few glasses of wine.

So not great but not awful. Friday really was rubbish and I still kept my head buried firmly in the sand over a few things. Must do these today.

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 10:04:46

Hiiiiiiii smile. Sorry, fell off thread. Have lost half a stone since Christmas Day.....Yay... I'm so determined this year and as my clothes are getting looser I'm more and more determined. Shall read back over thread now...Happy New Year to all of us smile

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 14-Jan-14 10:10:23

Wow half a stone Milly!! That is fabulous! Well done!

I have eaten for Britain today. I am stress eating.

B - 3 white coffees. 1/2 a coronation chicken sandwich. 1 packet of pombears. 1 large choc muffin.

L- was planning a tin of veg soup.

D- pasta arrabiata with a green salad.

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 10:20:18

Wellies......goose fat and vegetarian ....shock lol.

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 10:21:30

Hope your husband is feeling a bit better after all his ordeal.....poor man.

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 14-Jan-14 10:37:47

Well done milly!

wellies it’s no wonder you’re stressed to be honest, you’ve had a lot going on xx

B – none
L – couscous with bacon (DHs choice)
D – homemade crabcakes with carrots and kale
S – packet low fat crisps, cucumber, silverskin onions, 3 glasses of wine blush

I have got to stop drinking. I’m TTC, FFS. I should be taking this seriously. I do have a bit of a defence for last night.
Sorry if this is TMI…Had a smear test yesterday afternoon and if I’m honest, it didn’t go well! The smear itself was fine and apparently my cervix looks fine…but nothing else does. I’ve been advised to see a doctor and get a STI check, which I was planning to do anyway just for peace of mind, even though I’m 100% sure it’d come back clear (but I do like to worry!)

So yes, bit panicked really. I look “sore” apparently and I am a bit, if I’m honest. I also bled after the smear which is unusual for me. Of course I’m now thinking “OMG, what if I’m newly pregnant? This rummaging isn’t going to help” I know this is daft. The nurse was utterly lovely about it all and just said she wanted to make sure everything was in tip top condition before going into a pregnancy.

Sorry, completely off topic but it kept me awake last night!

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 10:56:20

What's STI check?

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 14-Jan-14 11:07:22

I know Milly about veg and goose! (and chicken...) I am working towards it. smile

Hazel good idea to get everything checked if need be. Take an early indicator pg test to be sure. When would your next period be due? certainly take it before any further rummaging. If you really are newly pg, I am not sure if a bit of activity there would harm necessarily, but may be wrong. Did you ask the nurse? TTC is a stressful, scary time, so I am not surprised you are worried and anxious, but it might be worth asking the GP when you get the tests if it would have been a problem. I mean, in my spear tests I have never been asked if I might be pregnant, or if I am TTC so maybe there is no problem?

hugs You sound very stressed yourself. xxxxxx

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 14-Jan-14 11:14:14

milly a sexually transmitted infection. I know it'll be clear, DH and I both had a check when we got together so I'm not at all worried about that but I will find something to worry about (my brain is good at that) so I think it's just easier on my head and my sleep if I go for the check.

wellies I'm only 2nd month off the pill so cycles a bit all over the place...I was 31 days last month so that'd make AF due 31/01 so pregnancy already is highly unlikely to the point I don't even know why I'm worried! grin

I am a bit stressed. Lots going on. Weight increasing and skin is terrible - things were much easier when on the pill!

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 11:18:40

Could it be thrush?confused

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 11:20:55

Maybe the Nurse was lovely but a STI and all that implies is a little bit insensitive of her.

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 14-Jan-14 11:27:44

She did say "Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm sure you have nothing to worry about but if you haven't had a check before, or haven't had one for a long time, it might be worth thinking about having one" I was fine with it, a little bit insensitive maybe but I get where she's coming from smile

It could be thrush I suppose! Would go someway to explaining the soreness.

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 14-Jan-14 11:31:39

Thrush sounds like a possibility. Ouch!

Weight and skin will both settle down. Your body is just reacting to new/difference hormones. I always put weight ON when on the pill. Grrrr.

How exciting! Hopefully a new Revolutiuonary baby! I will live vicariously, no more babies for me sadly.

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 11:46:04

Sorry , if she was really nice then ...."Sorry Nursery".blush

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 11:47:31

But thrush sounds a real possibility. Also the change in your hormones from coming off the pill will cause all sorts of changes in your body smile

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 11:48:11

OR.... just too much shagging lol.!!!!! shock

MillyRules Tue 14-Jan-14 11:48:53

Nursey.....bloody autocorrect phone angry

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 14-Jan-14 11:49:59

Haha, Milly Anyone else may have been offended so she needs to up the sensitivity a bit, I agree! smile

wellies I also put on weight with the pill so I'd hoped I'd lose it when coming off. No such luck! grin

I feel a bit better having spoken about it. It's probably nothing but best to check.

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 14-Jan-14 12:21:57

This is off topic a bit, but it reminds me when as part of a condition to get a visa for working in a particular country I needed an HIV test. (This is about 15 years ago). I went off to get bloods done and the nurse looked at me up and down then commented under her breath but audibly 'I'm not here to judge' grin

I was pretty shocked at the time though!

SlightlyDampWellies Tue 14-Jan-14 12:24:48

I have a terrible habit of responding to things by telling anecdotes. blush

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 14-Jan-14 12:31:06

wellies grin

I always respond with anecdotes too! grin

I'm rubbish around doctors and nurses. I have far too many embarrassing stories from various trips to the doctors blush

MillyRules Wed 15-Jan-14 00:55:51

Me today...
half crispy bacon sandwich
carot and coriander soup and one slice bread
a banana sandwich with salt
couple of quality street
lots of tea
one maple and vanilla coffee.

TheRealAmandaClarke Wed 15-Jan-14 05:13:34


hazel sorry you've had a rough time.
Fwiw vaginitis is likely caused by either thrush or a non- STI bacterial infection.
Even (revolting anecdote alert!!) a tampon being left in for too long. blush

If you can't face your own GP i'd recommend the local GUM clinic. They're usually brilliant. The staff spend all day every day probing "intimate areas" and discussing extraordinarily personal issues. And it's so anonymous. They usually very kind. They will do an infection screen and a pg test for you.

I fasted on Monday. It was great and relatively easy.
Yesterday I scoffed the office chocolates AND choc biscuits blush and also ate a small portion of tasty tasty bean stew for lunch. and an apple.
D: Spaghetti with pesto, garli
C bread (HO Meade) and salad. Few more chocs.
Today I am fasting.
So, I'm eating a few more veggies. I can fast but I was totally out of control yesterday.

Well done milly

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 15-Jan-14 08:32:33

Thanks Amanda The more I think about it, the more I think it could be thrush but I haven’t experienced any of the “usual” symptoms I get with thrush. I’ll definitely go to a walk in clinic to have all the checks and make a doctors appointment too. I’m going to try to leave work early/on time today to get to one this evening.
Well done on the fasting!

milly I was liking your menu until I saw “banana sandwich” Bananas are my food nemesis. grin

Still 9st 5lbs. I have got to lose at least 5lbs by the 1st weekend in Feb. It’s not looking likely is it? Ho hum.

B – none
L – pasta with onion, cucumber, tomato and egg
D – cottage pie with kale (I may have had a second helping of this blush)
S – 1 packet low fat crisps, handful of twiglets. NO ALCOHOL.

Quite pleased about the no alcohol – my friend came over for dinner and a girly chat which would normally be boozy but we both decided not to touch a drop.

Tonight I plan to stick to no alcohol and I also want to do a bit of exercise – even if it’s just 20 minutes.

Today I haven’t had breakfast, I have left over cottage pie for lunch, 1 packet of low fat crisps if I want them and I actually have no idea what dinner will be but I shall request chef (DH) cooks something healthy grin

MillyRules Wed 15-Jan-14 09:53:09

You could just use a pessary to clear it and the cream to sooth it . If it goes you know that's what it was. Inserting natural live yoghurt is another good remedy.

SlightlyDampWellies Thu 16-Jan-14 15:04:29

Hope you are feeling better today Hazel

Me - cherries and milk
avocado lettuce and quorn ham sandwich
macaroni, cheese and spinach with carrots and peas.

MillyRules Fri 17-Jan-14 00:59:21

Me today.....
coffee with maple syrup
one Bendicks mint
salad of mixed leaves and rocket with mini chicken fillet
homemade curry and two poppadoms ( I don't have rice)

lots of cups of tea smile

MillyRules Sun 19-Jan-14 17:55:59

Well Im still doing ok with eating. Not losing anymore at the moment but maintaining which is great.

two egg omelette with ham and tomato and rocket
Homemade curry with poppadoms and chutney and greek yoghurt
fresh mango for pudding

How is everyone else doing.........

TheRealAmandaClarke Sun 19-Jan-14 20:08:28

You're doing well milly

I, however, am not grin
Snacking, but not troughing!

Fasting tomorrow.

MillyRules Sun 19-Jan-14 20:28:27

Im in a different mindset this year. Determined. The first half stone came off quickly but now I think my body is playing catch up which is fine. I wouldn't want to lose it too quickly. I will be happy with just a pound a week.

Where is everyone else I wonder.....

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 20-Jan-14 10:20:47


I went for the check on Thursday – she also said I looked a bit sore but did a test for thrush and other bacteria and it was clear so she was stumped grin As it’s not really irritating me, I’m just keeping an eye and she’s told me where I need to go if it gets worse. Had the STI check as well and I should get the results at the end of the week.

Diet all over the place but I have lost 3lbs this week so I’m quite pleased about that. Aiming for another 4lbs by the end of the month, may be slightly ambitious (especially when I tell you what I had for breakfast today) but I’m prepared to give it a go!

I drank far too much other the weekend, then worried that I may be in “the 2 week wait” as I’m not actually sure when I ovulated <waits for Amanda to mention OPKs wink > so I’m now off the booze because I blatantly cannot stop at one. I had fun though, even made a new friend yesterday!

Quick rundown of food from the weekend – I can’t actually remember what I had at the end of last week blush

B – none
L – cod goujons in a soft bun (glorified fish finger sandwich) with chips
D – pizza
S – copious amounts of wine

B – none
L – pasta with chilli oil and parmesan cheese
D – oxtail stew with mash and br