Met office weather warnings for heavy rain, severe gales and snow

(967 Posts)
OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 17-Dec-13 21:19:41

Going to be an eventful few days. Have been discussing it in te Christmas weather thread but I think they need highlighting. met office warnings

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 17-Dec-13 21:20:42
AChristmassyJerseySpud Tue 17-Dec-13 21:24:14

it can all fuck off now sad

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 17-Dec-13 21:49:18

Sorry Jerseyspud sad in many ways some of these storms have more potential for causing disruption than snow.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 07:42:51

Just a reminder of the upcoming severe weather. Today, esp tonight into tomorrow the main risk area will be nW Scotland but other areas of Scotland, NI and also parts of Wales, the SW and the southern coast will also see some very strong winds.

oricella Wed 18-Dec-13 07:44:51

Still calmish here, but just checking the warnings and we have four days of warnings of gales, snow and heavy rain. O joy...

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 08:12:45

I dont think you are going to like the Christmas forecast thread very much sad

oricella Wed 18-Dec-13 10:21:24

O well, we're warm & cosy and nowhere to go ;)

Here's an interesting link: real time wind map Bookmarked for the coming days.. see if it matches up to the world outside grin

JadedAngel Wed 18-Dec-13 10:51:27

It's very windy and very wet on the south west coast. Wind getting stronger and howling, whipping round the house and the sea is roaring. I can't actually see it though it's only 50 yards away, it's just one big grey mass out there.

It's grim and I'm glad to be inside with the woodburner on!

GloriaSmud Wed 18-Dec-13 11:21:35

oricella ~ that wind map is excellent!

Can I point out that the metoffice have upgraded their warnings and there are some amber warnings out now for some areas of Scotland and N. Ireland, for strong winds/gales today and tomorrow.

JadedAngel Wed 18-Dec-13 11:24:14

Ooh yes love the wind map! See where the mass of green arrows is hitting the south Cornwall coast? Yep, I'm right about there!

oricella Wed 18-Dec-13 11:49:18

Thanks Gloria; we're right on the edge of amber now but probably will be fine.. West coast looks like it will get another battering.

GloriaSmud Wed 18-Dec-13 12:07:11

It's interesting to see on the map where some of the winds originate from and how the land masses affect the flow of air.
JadedAngel ~ it doesn't look like much else will change over the next few days ~ you're going to carry on being hit by those 'green arrows!'

GloriaSmud Wed 18-Dec-13 12:14:02

The wind's got up here (Leicester) in the last hour ~ we've just had a gust of 17mph.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 13:34:02

Cool graphic! Its unsurprising that the warning is amber, I'm a little surprised that they didnt do it earlier.

Mirage Wed 18-Dec-13 13:35:13

I'm about 10 miles north of Gloria [waves].Been working outside all morning and just about to go back and sort out the animals before the rain starts.The wind has really picked up in the past hour and I'm glad I replaced the candles we used in the last power cut,as we might need them.

GloriaSmud Wed 18-Dec-13 14:25:43

[waves] back to Mirage.
Certainly doesn't feel like the 9.9C my weather station says it is. On our local news at lunchtime, they mentioned we might have a little snow tomorrow evening. Nothing too drastic but depends on whether a front moves up north to where we are.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 15:12:19

TORRO have issued a convective discussion for isolated tornadoes, wind gusts to 65mph (85-90mph W Scotland), occasional CG lightning as squall line associated with a cold front from the deep low centered to the north of Scotland passes over this afternoon and through the evening.

StillSlightlyCrumpled Wed 18-Dec-13 15:42:47

DH & I are flying Birmingham to Dublin tomorrow afternoon & back Saturday evening. Hate flying at the best of times. Will need ������ at the airport I think!

Makinglists Wed 18-Dec-13 16:46:29

Very heavy rain and strong gusts here in Plymouth at the moment - apparently a few trees already down.
Not good as I have to turn out and take DS1 to the school play in an hour and DH is cycling home!!!

Makinglists Wed 18-Dec-13 16:50:31

Gusts around house are getting louder and rather unsettling!!!(we are in a built up urban area so not particularly exposed).

BerylStreep Wed 18-Dec-13 16:53:02

Wind howling and heavy, sideways rain here in NI.

Very windy but dry here in the NW

HesterShaw Wed 18-Dec-13 17:14:42

There is an actual bloody real proper major storm raging! They've shut the seafront road and all the houses are sandbagged! I was just turned back my a man in a yellow coat. I'm supposed to be carolling tonight grin

HesterShaw Wed 18-Dec-13 17:16:48

Jaded, JADED!!! ARE YOU OK???? <bellows> You're not at sea level are you?

We've just had a 58mph SSW gust. No wonder the sea is flying over the railway track and right at the houses over the road, poor buggers. To be honest it feels like twice that strong.

leesmum Wed 18-Dec-13 17:38:25

Very windy in north Manchester but no rain yet!

ZombieFromTheRealmOfGory Wed 18-Dec-13 17:53:26

Someone should tell the Met Office that it's blowing a hoolie in South Shropshire despite there being no warnings for the West Midlands...

LostInWales Wed 18-Dec-13 17:56:54

Holy crap the squall line just passed us and I can't believe how much rain fell at once. Had to go and unblock the gutter as the rain was running down the hill and into my garden rather than the drain, I was out for a minute tops and look like I've been swimming grin

HesterShaw Wed 18-Dec-13 17:58:43

I think it's the high tide and the rain which will be causing problems here. Both have now thankfully past.

Bramblesinforrin Wed 18-Dec-13 18:02:25

Very very windy here. Waiting for the rain now.

Bramblesinforrin Wed 18-Dec-13 18:03:39

Ah and here it is.

GloriaSmud Wed 18-Dec-13 18:06:23

Lost ~ think you can see your squall line showing up nicely here at the moment.

We've had quite a lot of gusts this afternoon but still haven't gone past the 22mph we had at 1.25pm. I've had to go and weight down the plastic cover over the patio table as it was blowing about and an archway that I'm attempting to train some honeysuckle up, is looking a bit unreliable and wobbling a lot!

HesterShaw Wed 18-Dec-13 18:09:11

Interesting! No wonder I had rain coming into the actual house through all sorts of tiny cracks and gaps! I had a small blue bit go over!

GloriaSmud Wed 18-Dec-13 18:13:02

DD1 and I were just looking at it and think at the rate it's moving, it'll be another 1 to 1 1/4 hours before it reaches us here.

FrigideBarjot Wed 18-Dec-13 18:17:23

Oh that's all I need. Cross Channel ferry crossing on Friday. Hope it's over by then

HesterShaw Wed 18-Dec-13 18:18:16

Frigide, I think there might be a new one by then shock

Which crossing are you doing?

JadedAngel Wed 18-Dec-13 18:25:49

Waves at hester

We're getting a total battering. We're about 20m above sea level as the land rises quite steeply up the slipway from the beach to our house so we usually do ok even when locally there's quite a lot of flooding.

Are you further west than me? We're only 15 miles west of Plymouth and I've noticed the rain really go up a gear in the last 30 minutes. Hoping it will clear soon. My mum needs to drive home and I'm not letting her go anywhere at the moment.

zebrafinch Wed 18-Dec-13 18:28:08

South Cornwall here and very strong gusts and heavy rain.

zebrafinch Wed 18-Dec-13 18:31:27

Not too far from you JadedAngel. Don't go out, I managed to make it to the bus stop in the last half hour but had to turn back home, the shelter was rocking I thought the wind would lift it!

HesterShaw Wed 18-Dec-13 18:32:17

All these Corns coming out of the woodwork! And to think when we had a meet up, THREE of us came along! grin

mateysmum Wed 18-Dec-13 18:34:01

Really wild here in Somerset. Sounds worse than it did in the much hyped storm last month. I'm felling drafts where I didn't know we had them.

JadedAngel Wed 18-Dec-13 18:35:21

Ooh crikey zebra!

(Corn meet up? How did I not know?!)

HesterShaw Wed 18-Dec-13 18:37:42

It was last winter, to be fair. Or maybe two years ago?

zebrafinch Wed 18-Dec-13 18:38:35

Waves at Hester

StillSlightlyCrumpled Wed 18-Dec-13 18:40:41

I'm not far from you Gloria & it's v windy here now. Dog far from impressed & refusing to go out.

MrGeresHamster Wed 18-Dec-13 18:43:57

East Devon is raging at the moment. It's horrible out there...

Plymouth is about to float away! 2 hrs later and I'm still not home - a whole 1.5miles from work!

LostInWales Wed 18-Dec-13 18:49:46

Just out to pick up DS2 and we drove through four proper deep floods (thank goodness for a 4x4). Just seen all the fire engines go out so I hope they let us get back home shock

snozzlemaid Wed 18-Dec-13 18:54:13

Very rough here in st austell. Dp is out driving a double decker too!

littleredsquirrel Wed 18-Dec-13 18:56:28

Very noisy outside here in Notts. The wind is really getting up.

I'm just back from Carol singing with DD at the community library - It was windy but the rain never started til the end.

By the time we had walked home we were soaked!

Makinglists Wed 18-Dec-13 19:15:25

Lots of standing water here and the wind in the last hour has been scary. Rain is easing off at the moment though so perhaps we are through the worst of it for the time being. Lots of reports of trees down and delays on local roads n Plymouth.

LostInWales Wed 18-Dec-13 19:15:28

Home, phew, they'd gone down a lot in the half an hour we were out (tiny bit disappointed tbh!) tried to get DS1 to video them on my phone but he didn't really get the idea of lifting the phone up above the dashboard so it's mostly black plastic with splash at the top hmm.

That's the one GloriaSmud that's going to be fun for everyone as it goes across the country.

DownstairsMixUp Wed 18-Dec-13 19:19:09

No met warnings either for coastal Kent but it's bloomin windy here! Dp's gone to tie some stuff down!

GloriaSmud Wed 18-Dec-13 19:24:29

DD1 and I got our timings right ~ it's just started raining here.
There's a live webcam (have to get past an annoying advert first) of the seafront at Dawlish here. The sea is looking a little rough!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 19:25:36

The squall line is quite tricky to pick out amongst all the rain isn't it. You can pick it out towards the back (I think)

Naoko Wed 18-Dec-13 19:33:48

Deluge of biblical proportions just as I got off the bus on the way home. I got soaked to the bone in the 5 minutes it took me to walk home from the bus stop. It's a bit calmer here now (North Welsh coast, on the Menai Strait) but today has been a little exciting!

GimmeDaBoobehz Wed 18-Dec-13 19:35:40

Dorset is pretty windy and rainy.

Had an appointment today and had an appointment when the weather was bad last month, why do I always have appointments when the weather is crap?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 19:35:49

My anemometer is reading 35mph which is actually pretty high for it as it doesnt reach met office standard (only 1m above my roof and we are quite urban) so I think the official nearby reading will be about 50mph when it comes out and we arent in the worst of it yet.

Naoko Wed 18-Dec-13 19:41:01

I just hope it blows itself out in the next day or two. I'm supposed to be on an airplane on Saturday. I'm a nervous flier at the best of times and I am going to be really miffed if it gets cancelled and/or I struggle getting to the airport. <worries>

StillSlightlyCrumpled Wed 18-Dec-13 19:43:21

Naoko me too. Am a nervous wreck thinking about it!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 19:45:58

Theres a low down on each of the days (as the forecast stands at the moment) on the Christmas thread

Unfortunately its not a great forecast.

nannynick Wed 18-Dec-13 20:03:02

Another interactive map for those who like that kind of thing... like me grin

This shows temperature and wind direction... then hovering on an icon brings up wind speed and clicking brings up more data. Have a play with the settings for Layers. Would be nice to get it to display temp and wind speed as numbers but I can't work out how.


Currently on the Surrey/Berkshire border it is windy and there is rain, as it is lashing at my windows!

pepperrabbit Wed 18-Dec-13 20:08:40

NE Hants here - very windy and heaving down with rain, quite impressive and we're nowhere near the main event here.

RubySparks Wed 18-Dec-13 20:09:37

Very windy and heavy rain here, East Scotland near to Edinburgh. Expecting travel disruption again tomorrow, just like last week!

We have sheet rain the wind is blowing loads making the shops shutters I live abouve vv noisy the dog has jumped up onto the sofa shaking

SantasComingEarlyHisSackIsFull Wed 18-Dec-13 20:12:22

It's windy and unbelievably rainy here in North Somerset. The wind nearly lifted me off my feet tonight and I'm no wee scrap grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 20:17:30

Something fell over outside. Far too comfy to see what!

PickleFish Wed 18-Dec-13 20:42:53

I don't like this. I have to fly tomorrow lunchtime sad

TheGreatHunt Wed 18-Dec-13 20:48:15

Pretty windy and wet here in London!!

openerofjars Wed 18-Dec-13 21:05:49

The rain is actually coming through my closed double glazed windows here in Sheffield! I've had to put my Christmas cards on a radiator to dry and the window blind is soaking wet: it's currently protecting the tree from getting any wetter as I decided I like the tree more than the blind. Plus, we made gingerbread tree decs today...

But bloody hell, the rain has got through the window! shock

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 18-Dec-13 21:06:57

That's not great jars! Is it coming round the frame or where the windows open?

youarewinning Wed 18-Dec-13 21:08:10

Very windy and wet here in Hampshire - yuk!

Helenagrace Wed 18-Dec-13 21:10:07

Very gusty and some squally rain here on the West Sussex coast. I'm hearing that the exposed section of the A27 as it crosses the river Adur and goes up to the Southwick Tunnel is shut to high sides vehicles. If that's true it's worse than Stormaggedon (that wasn't).

BelleOfTheBorstal Wed 18-Dec-13 21:11:29

I'm in London. Just got home from work. It is horrendous out there. Don't go outside, peeps, it's not a good experience.

Ememem84 Wed 18-Dec-13 21:18:59

I have rain and wind. It aounds awful. Glad I'm indoors.

Meglet Wed 18-Dec-13 21:44:24

North Hampshire here. The wind sounds fierce sad.

I'm living in fear of my fence falling down, it was only fixed last week.

JillJ72 Wed 18-Dec-13 21:58:57

Windy got up here during the afternoon, it is now absolutely lashing down!! North Bucks.

openerofjars Wed 18-Dec-13 23:11:40

Round the frame, or could be that some of the pointing has come away from the lintel. Honestly, it was scary. It's all stopped now though so it was clearly blowing through.

Its0kToBeMe Wed 18-Dec-13 23:23:26

Horribly gusty here. I'm on the suffolk coast.

Perihelion Thu 19-Dec-13 00:16:54

Pishing down earlier this evening in Edinburgh. Wind's been increasing with gusts of 53mph.

digerd Thu 19-Dec-13 07:11:45


Heard the rain in the night but didn't seem anything unusual.
Must go out and check when it's light.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 19-Dec-13 07:37:36

We were getting gusts around our frame the other week, We found that we need to seal it and have used an outdoor sealant designed for the job.

GloriaSmud Thu 19-Dec-13 09:51:47

Things calmed down after 9pm here (Leicester) last night.
BBC report on the disruption around the country. One man is missing after falling overboard off a cargo ship moored on the River Trent.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 19-Dec-13 10:46:19

I hope they find the poor bloke ok.

I had no idea that train drivers carried hacksaws! Very enterprising of him to try and have a go himself. A determined bloke!

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights Thu 19-Dec-13 11:28:29

Poor bloke & his family sad

I didn't see this thread last night - too busy with boring housey crap.

I got home (in the central south east) at about 8.30, it was really really windy and chucking it down. Lovely day today though fsmile

Silent night, holy night all is calm, all is bright...

GloriaSmud Thu 19-Dec-13 13:39:42

Was quite a stormy night over in Ireland as well. Am shock at the state of the railway station in Cork.

BlackeyedShepherdswatchsheep Thu 19-Dec-13 18:31:14

tree fell on a car in the w mids last night.

we had a very heavy burst of rain. it was like someone was pouring water down the windows.

digerd Thu 19-Dec-13 19:11:43

Just heard terrifying thunder rumbles like I have never heard before and now it is raining. confused.

digerd Thu 19-Dec-13 19:15:51

Thunder at 6 degrees - it's gone madshock

TheGreatHunt Thu 19-Dec-13 19:29:57

We've just had passing thunder - incredible loud!! (London)

feelingdizzy Thu 19-Dec-13 19:44:29

I live on the north west coast of Ireland, the storm last night was incredible we lost power last night at 8pm have just got it back.the kids were off school. It is supposed to be stormy again tomorrow, we always have windy winters, but this seems to be really bad.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 19-Dec-13 20:42:51

got caught by the thunder too! was a nice surprise smilesmile

openerofjars Thu 19-Dec-13 20:57:59

Sleet here in S.Yorks. I feel so sorry for anyone who has to be out in this crappy weather.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Fri 20-Dec-13 00:09:55

I think the thunder storm might have been a precipitating factor in the collapse of the Apollo roof happening at that time.

TheGreatHunt Fri 20-Dec-13 03:11:16

I wondered that OYMLK.

ChubbyKitty Fri 20-Dec-13 03:54:12

It absolutely shat it down the other night and I thought of you kitten. I don't remember now why I didn't post about it, and I've got a screwed up sleeping pattern so can't remember if it was Wednesday or Tuesday night.

But it was also very gusty. I lost my sky signal sad

Tonight is eerily clear so I'm snuggled away pretending it's not happening because it's creepy blush

youarewinning Fri 20-Dec-13 06:35:24

We had hailstones here in South Hampshire about 5.30 yesterday evening. That was a surprise I can tell you!

digerd Fri 20-Dec-13 07:10:46

This morning it is 0 degrees but no snow. Heard the rain in the night again, but skies must have cleared later.

DoItTooBabyJesus Fri 20-Dec-13 07:39:47

A proper frost here in the midlands!

sewingandcakes Fri 20-Dec-13 07:45:57

We had some snow (in between lots of rain) here in Rossendale yesterday at about 3-5pm. Not pretty snow that stuck to the ground sadly, but bitterly cold and wet snow that made me glad I bought a proper good winter coat this year!

Makinglists Fri 20-Dec-13 19:37:48

Cold and frosty here this am (slippery pavements) has rapidly warmed up and now very gusty winds picking up- rain hasn't started but I guess it will in a few hours.

ethelb Sat 21-Dec-13 00:21:54

The windows are rattling in sw london at the mo. shock

Where is everyone talkibg about it? In bed?! confused

MrsClauswearsspanx Sat 21-Dec-13 00:26:46

Very gale-y (because that's a word!) here in the SW. Keeping me awake!

ChubbyKitty Sat 21-Dec-13 01:42:43

Very very blustery in Newark too!confused

digerd Sat 21-Dec-13 07:27:59

10 degrees already this morning. What is going on?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 11:18:10

torro have issued a tornado watch for today. also hail, c-g lightning.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 11:34:34

In case you arent following the Christmas thread, I think this is important enough to be repeated:

To summarise the two main events I'm watching:

Storm 1 - Monday/Christmas Eve.
Monday is worst for the south, esp the SE - gusts to 70mph+ Then that night into Christmas Eve the main risk transfers to scotland/NI/north of England. The low is forecast to be at 930hPa - which is very deep. Christmas eve could see winds of 90mph in NI and parts of Scotland. Can I urge you to please keep an eye on the met office warnings and be prepared for powercuts and horrid disruption. Build the storm into your plans.

Storm 2 - Friday27th/Saturday 28th.
Clearly this storm is sometime off and hopefully the models will back down but again you should be aware of it as GFS is showing it very consistently - unusual for the time frame. GFS shows it as a 940hPa storm and takes it right over the country - at this point in time it is impossible to say where the worst of it will be but at present I'm hazarding a guess at the west country followed by the east midlands. That will change.

Interestingly although the UKMO also develops the storm, ECMWF really doesnt seem that impressed with it this model run, though it was picking up on it very much so in previous runs. It may be the first to pick up a down grade, or it may be a dodgy run. Time will tell.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 15:52:59

Forecast remains as before with two potentially damaging storms coming up. No change in the 12z GFS for though on monday there is now a tighter gradient showing in NW England. met office warnings now covering almost all of Britain, warning of gusts to 90mph in some places but more widespread gusts of 70mph across the country. As I said earlier, please please do build the storm into your plans when considering travel. I'm off out in a bit but will be able to answer specific questions when i get back.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 15:53:39
goneanonymous Sat 21-Dec-13 16:31:04

They are not kidding! <shakes water out of the most unusual places>. Why do all of my children need me to be taxi at different times over the next three hours? It's foul out there.

Mirage Sat 21-Dec-13 18:34:15

Oh no! DD1 and her friend are due to be riding outdoors in an event on the 27th and she has been looking forward to it all year.Last year dpony went lame so she missed out then.Hope the storm fizzles out over the next few days.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 20:52:37

unfortunately the 12Z ECMWF echos the GFS with regard to Monday/tuesday, but fortunately its still not so keen on the storm of the 27th. Fingers crossed its on to something.

SnakeyMcBadass Sat 21-Dec-13 21:15:56

Marking place. Have convinced my parents to travel up tomorrow from Essex to Derbyshire instead of Monday. No doubt everyone will have the same idea and there will be gridlock.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 21:28:40

That is really sensible Snakey.

Looking bad Tuesday morning in the SE now as well as Monday afternoon/evening.

JKSLtd Sat 21-Dec-13 21:42:17

My parents are planning to drive from Devon to Essex on Tues (CE), they can't really come any earlier and obv don't want to leave it later.

How bad are things really going to be do you think?

They left here early in Oct cos of the forecast looking so bad and it was fine so I don't want to mess with their plans again.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 21:49:19

Fortunately as timings stand things should be hopefully easing by the afternoon, but I think that away from the coast they will be seeing gusts of 60mph or so.

And that's the issue really isn't it, because even in a bad storm not everywhere gets hit equally. In the oct storm locally we saw a fair few trees come down, lost power for a few hours and yet other areas not far away weren't affected to the same extent. Other areas were worse and without power for days and several people were killed. So people think 'oh it was fine for us for the last warning, it will be fine again' and it may well be, depending on the exact path of the storm and any localised squalls, but you just don't know until it happens.

ethelb Sat 21-Dec-13 21:53:09

We were looking at train midday on tuesday london to ipswich but may bring it foward to early morning. Cant do it earlier due to work confused

JKSLtd Sat 21-Dec-13 22:01:34

Exactly - there was some serious impact from that storm but the path from us to their house was unscathed. And my DDad took the advice to drive carefully rather too seriously and crawled his way down to Devon - my DSis was in the car for a lift and was texting me fuming in the backseat!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 22:06:26

bbc have a nice little weather forecast on it.

Jks that made me giggle.

Ethelb, I obviously can't predict what will happen with the trains, but from a weather point of view Tuesday morning looks to be worse than Tuesday afternoon.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 22:09:09

national rail are warning of potential disruption Monday.

StillSlightlyCrumpled Sat 21-Dec-13 22:14:51

We have just got home from staying on Dublin for a couple of days. A fairly bumpy ride home, & we were delayed for a couple of hours due to the weather.

My mum & dad are travelling up from Suffolk to us (midlands) on Christmas Eve. Hopefully they'll leave it until after lunch.

You're right about the localisation of storms (as you know anyway!), but I was surprised driving back from the airport how some areas looked as though they hadn't seen rain / high winds & others were flooded etc.

Anyway off for a brandy to settle my nerves after that flight! smile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 22:18:22

18z GFS is now out.
Still a 930hPa low. Looks pretty similar, perhaps not quite so windy on Tuesday for the south but Monday in the south and through the night still looks severe and also northern Scotland still looks severe on Tuesday. High winds everywhere and even in the midlands still gusting to 60mph or so.

Glad you made it back ok crumpled smile

Cat98 Sat 21-Dec-13 22:19:50

Thanks for the updates. Travelling from Wales to Devon on Tuesday. Is this likely to be a problem?

StillSlightlyCrumpled Sat 21-Dec-13 22:20:57

Thank you smile.
I hope everyone has safe, uneventful journeys over the next few days.

I have to say I was following this thread & the links in the airport, & breathed a sigh of relief when they announced the delay!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 22:22:42

If things don't change it could be cat. At the moment I'd plan to try and leave it later in the day if you can. I will be updating tomorrow with any changes but of course the met office are the real experts so keep a close eye on their website.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 22:23:19

You are welcome smile

upjacobscreekwithoutapaddle Sat 21-Dec-13 22:28:54

OYMLK...driving from Herts to Somerset on Monday. Its gonna be hell isn't it?sad

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 22:34:53

It doesn't look great as with the others I think leaving as early as possible is best and plan your route carefully.

upjacobscreekwithoutapaddle Sat 21-Dec-13 22:37:46

Thanks muchly. Merry Christmas to you.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 22:39:21

And to you fsmile

HesterShaw Sat 21-Dec-13 22:44:34

We're going from Cornwall right to the east coast on Tuesday morning. I can hardly wait....

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 22:52:35

That will be fun Hester!

HesterShaw Sat 21-Dec-13 22:55:08

<rolls eyes>

It was going to be Monday but I couldn't face the drive through the storm. But it looks like it's going to be Monday AND Tuesday. And when I get there, it's Christmas at the in laws. Oh God...

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sat 21-Dec-13 23:03:41

Well at least it's one less day now!

Am going to stop updating for the night, back tomorrow smile

Oh crumbs we are off to Longleat Center Parcs on Monday for the week <wibbles at being surrounded by very tall thin trees>

youarewinning Sun 22-Dec-13 06:50:30

South Coast Hampshire here. Calling in with reports of thunder and lightening and a massive wall of wind and rain that passed through and woke me up! Hence my posting early on a Sunday morning!

ajandjjmum Sun 22-Dec-13 07:02:06

Happy Christmas Kitten!

Just wondering if I could pick your brains (again!). 3 am Monday morning in Warwick and 7 am Monday morning in Milton Keynes. Is it going to be absolutely rubbish?!!!!

Thanks you. smile

PseudoSanta Sun 22-Dec-13 07:12:38

We are flying london to belfast early on the 28th - I hope that storm doesn't develop sad

Cat98 Sun 22-Dec-13 08:35:44

Thank you smile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 08:40:32

Morning all, am mning from bed at the moment so I'm a bit limited in my ability to do long forecasts as every time I switch tabs todo the bit for the next day I lose what I've written! So I will attempt to cover the two storms and when I've got my lazy bum out of bed I'll do the rest of it!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 08:41:44

Youarewinning I'm going to be interested in damage reports from that feature. It hit here too but just with lots of wind.

I live just round the corner from youare <waves!>and both my dd's were woken by the huge thunderstorm just after 6.30am. When I went in to get baby dd there was a flash of lightning so bright my sleep confused mind thought there was a photographer in her room! Wind and rain have died down now but we've lost another fence panel - 3 down this week grrrrr!

Praying it's not too windy at center parcs next week!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 08:52:19

At the moment the low hasn't even become a closed off low pressure, but if you follow it through GFS it just 'bombs' going from 985hPa to 935hPa in 24 hours and then deepening to 930hPa.

My advice, which you should take very guardedly and checking with the met office site, remembering that overrules anything I say, and also remembering that things can change rapidly and unexpectedly in weather, so use your own common sense is (sorry about the really poor grammar!):

If you have to travel in the south then do so early tomorrow, the earlier the better or leave it if you can until later on Tuesday. If you are in the north, especially the NW and Scotland then it would be better to travel tomorrow weather wise. What happens on the roads and rail though I cannot forecast, weather is my thing!

ajandjjmum Sun 22-Dec-13 09:01:06

I feel for you Kitten - we're all stressing over what we have to do for Christmas, and you've got that plus endless weather questions from Mumsnetters. thanks

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 09:05:27

With regards to the 27th/28th all 3 main models are back to modelling it. It seems a little further north to me, taking the worst of the winds through the midlands. It's not good news, GFS has it as a 940hPa low and again rapidly deepening as it approaches. ECMWF isn't quite as developmental. So at the moment, it does look like there will be storm but its severity and position are yet to be pinned down.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 09:08:09

Thank you AJ smile I reckon everyone is being really restrained. I don't mind as long as people accept that I do have to fit in other things too grin it will get tricky cHristmas day/boxing day as I'll be with family but I'll do my best to get out at least one update each day if the 27th/28th is still bad.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 09:18:49

I'm reading some very worried posts about both storms from people who are normally pretty restrained forecasters.

One thing I've neglected to highlight is the very high rainfall totals for some, with a couple of inches over the two days possible in some areas. Surface flooding could start to become a real issue.

Apologies for repeating my posts in this and the Christmas weather thread, I seem to have different people following in each one and my thoughts apply equally to both threads.

LadyFlumpalot Sun 22-Dec-13 09:33:39

If it helps, I've just called my dad, who lives in Devon, as I'm supposed to be driving from Dorset on Xmas Eve. My dad is a retired forecaster from the met office and he says to keep an eye on the warnings as they are likely to turn amber this afternoon, but at this stage it looks like the worst winds should clear the West by 6am Tuesday.

He has been known to be wrong! grin

DameDeepRedBetty Sun 22-Dec-13 09:40:56

placemark. Thanks Kitten!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 09:46:56

Lady, west of south England yes, not the west of Scotland or northern England though.

Usually the met office update their warnings about 11:30am. I think the reason we didnt go amber yesterday is the need to highlight specific areas with amber and pinning those areas down is more tricky as they have such specific criteria. (I'm guessing the south coast pretty far inland and north scotland, the north west and western coasts. I wouldn't be entirely startled to see a red for the far SE because it has a lower threshold than northern areas, but I think it probably won't happen, it seems to be very rare to get a red due to wind)

LadyFlumpalot Sun 22-Dec-13 09:52:11

I'm in awe of you a bit, Kitten, I'd love to be able to read the charts. I was going to tale tge scenic route along the A35 and the coast roads but I think I'll stick to the A303 now! grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 09:54:43

Sensible lady flumpalot!

I've had a look at the met office and they are now saying 70mph winds at lunchtime tomorrow in the SW so my advice about travelling in the morning tomorrow needs to be perhaps reconsidered for those in the SW. If you need to, go early early and be prepared to change plans.

GloriaSmud Sun 22-Dec-13 10:04:11

Some of the charts are shock The west/NW coast of Ireland looks like it's going to get a battering as well.

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 10:36:11

I've had a look at Kent and it looks just as breezy, if not breezier than the far south west overnight on Monday.

Here is a firm instruction to trees on the Blackdown Hills NOT to fall over the A303 please <firm>

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 10:40:51

I think Kent could be looking at 80mph winds close to the coast.

The charts are pretty shocking.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 10:45:06

Tthe highways agency have issued a severe weather alert.

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 10:46:33

I've just been looking at the pressure charts. DH has been teaching me to measure between the isoars and roughly use the met office geostrophic wind scale. 80 knots! And somewhere out in the north Atlantic, over 100 <envy> <---- that's nausea rather than envy.

He also said - is this true? - that the storms which do damage and cause loss of life in this country, are generally caused by secondary depressions swinging up, because they then usually hammer the south coast, which is full of boats and trees and cars and stuff <vague>

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 10:47:01

Bugger. Envy/Nausea fail. envy

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 10:53:40

not quite sure about that Hester, but only cos I'm not quite sure what he is saying, but it is true that those little lows that zip up from the channel are rather nasty, especially if they are undergoing RACY.

For those who arent sure of the comparison of knots-mph 80kts=92mph.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 10:55:58

oh, but worth remembering for those that arent sure, the geostrophic wind scale is theoretical and surface friction lowers the speed.

Geckos48 Sun 22-Dec-13 10:58:10

Well Monday my plan was to just relax and go to a super market for last minute Christmas stuff, then on Tuesday we won't have to go anywhere but Wednesday I have an evening shift and Thursday I am working all day. Bit worried now but if I don't get to work, people don't get out of bed or get to eat... I have to brave it and get to work.

BerylStreep Sun 22-Dec-13 11:01:36

My DSis is travelling from London to Scotland today, then getting the ferry to NI this evening. By the looks of things, they should avoid most of the bad weather which is to get worse tomorrow?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 11:03:31

Beryl, they have chosen a good day to travel! It will be choppy but hopefully ok.

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 11:05:20

Sorry. I often talk to people on MN like it's a personal conversation, quite forgetting we're actually on the worldwide web <twat emoticon>. I actually (and clearly) don't know much about the weather at all, am just fascinated by it.

Interesting point about surface friction. Logical of course. 80 knots is a lot, and nothing is forecasting that.

You learn something every day.

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 11:05:52

Anyway today is a lovely day. There's no gale blowing and rain isn't pouring out of the sky in sheets.

LadyFlumpalot Sun 22-Dec-13 11:08:08

Hester - if you are travelling Tuesday look out for a dark blue Mitsubishi going the opposite way! Sounds like our paths are going to cross. smile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 11:09:36

06Z GFS is out and I'm afraid it isnt any better sad Rare to not have a bit of downgrading by now. Storm on the 27th/28th is still also very much an 'oh shit' storm.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 11:10:35

Hester, i think you know a lot more than average grin

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 11:12:23


We'll be in a green focus and will be setting off approx 8am. ETA 2.30 barring falling trees, floods and general mishaps. Maybe we can stop by the 'Henge and exchange mince pies grin

Littlemisschristmas Sun 22-Dec-13 11:14:27

Not looking forward to this storm on 27th/28th. I'll be travelling back up to Scotland for a funeral. Debating whether to book train tickets or to drive. Don't fancy delayed trains with baby ds.
Hope everyone stays safe and gets where they need to be for Christmas

LadyFlumpalot Sun 22-Dec-13 11:17:29

I live near Stourhead so will be getting on the A303 at Mere at about 8:30 - staying on the A303 til Honiton. Will look out for you! I reckob we will pass about Taunton by that corner my DH calls the Nurburgcorner. grin

Take a tip from me though, coukd be worth your while to dive off the 303 at the new Stonehenge roundabout and cut through either Larkhill to come out at Countess services or Salisbury and Amesbury. Stonehenge was a nightmare yesterday.

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 11:20:14

Ah. Good plan and thanks for the tip. Last time we drove up on a Friday evening we were stuck for ages and couldn't work out what the problem was until DH shouted suddently "It's that f*!king Stonehenge. Bulldoze it!" grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 11:21:14

It should be easier to forecast what is going to happen on the 27th after this storm passes through.

youarewinning Sun 22-Dec-13 11:23:18

We lost a fence panel too whatevertheweather Luckily it isn't mine though!

Im sat here watching the sun going in and out and considering going out for a walk - but I also need to go to Tesco!

TheGhostOfPortoPast Sun 22-Dec-13 11:50:03

We are driving from Brussels to Deal in Kent tomorrow. Luckily not taking a ferry. We're not booked onto Eurotunnel til lunchtime unfortunately. Eek!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 11:58:16

met office warnings are clearly in the process of being updated as all the warnings of wind have vanished. Hurry up met office, I'm off out in a bit!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 12:09:00

yellow warnings for snow in Scotland are up now. The wind warnings are still missing.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 12:29:29

half updated warnings with just yellows for scotland and no wind yet for the south. That will change!! I expect some of the scottish yellows will turn to amber tomorrow and there is no way on earth that tomorrows weather doesnt warrant warnings in the south.

I'm off out now, so someone else will need to update when the warnings are fully updated. I can check in on my phone.

GloriaSmud Sun 22-Dec-13 14:10:16

Netweather have got the whole country under a Red Alert while metmonkey say this.

First Capital Connect already have a warning for disruption. I think I caught on the ClassicFM news earlier that if people can travel today, to do so.

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 14:18:55

Red! Fuck!

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 14:19:39

(sorry about the expletive. Is it ok to say fuck in Weather?)

TheGreatHunt Sun 22-Dec-13 14:32:08

The met office have amber and yellow warnings for wind only across the south. That doesn't make sense -
Guessing one should actually be wind?

GloriaSmud Sun 22-Dec-13 14:34:40

I think on this occasion, you might get away with it Hester!
Some posters on some message boards I'm reading (who seem pretty knowledgeable about all things weather), are wondering why the metoffice haven't gone for some Red warnings in some areas as well. I guess have to see what happens as we get nearer to tomorrow.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 14:41:44

can I have a description please of the warnings. am out in the middle of the countryside (freezing) with a dodgy signal

GloriaSmud Sun 22-Dec-13 14:45:31

That might take some time, OYMLK!

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 14:46:59

"Very wet and very windy in lots of places".


ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Sun 22-Dec-13 14:47:42

I am confused by all I have heard on the news and what dh is telling me.

I want to know what is going to happen for the SE. DCs are desperate for snow.

oymlk they have Amber in place for rain in south.nothing for wind but the actual text references up to 80mph gusts.I think it's a cock up. I follow Liam Dutton c4 weather on Twitter and he has posted highlighting that people shouldn't forget the wind etc.

HesterShaw Sun 22-Dec-13 14:50:28

Toffee it doesn't look like snow. It looks pretty cold on Boxing Day though.

GloriaSmud Sun 22-Dec-13 14:57:06

Today ~ whole of Scotland has a yellow warning for ice.
Tomorrow ~ whole of Scotland YW (yellow warning) for ice, middle of Scotland YW for snow, southern Scotland (tiny area ~ YW heavy rain)
The South ~ in a line from Mid Wales to north of Kent downwards ~ YW for rain. Amber warning covers south Wales/South West/South coast along to Kent for heavy rain.

Tuesday ~ YW for wind for whole of Scotland and Northern Ireland. Same warnings for tomorrow apply to South.

TheGreatHunt Sun 22-Dec-13 14:59:19

met office says (monday 7am - tues 9am)

A deep area of low pressure will sweep an active frontal system across England and Wales on Monday. This will bring 20-40 mm rainfall quite widely, with over 60 mm likely across parts of the high ground of southern England and South Wales. Falling onto saturated ground, this will bring the risk of both surface water and river flooding.

Meanwhile, south to southwesterly winds will increase with gusts 70-80 mph likely around exposed coasts, particularly along the English Channel. Further inland, gusts of 50-60 mph are likely through the amber area, with a lower risk of gusts reaching 70 mph - more especially across southeast England during the evening

TheGreatHunt Sun 22-Dec-13 14:59:54

and for ice

Showers will continue to affect the west of Scotland overnight Sunday and into Monday. Road temperatures will fall below freezing where skies clear between showers. This will allow icy stretches to form. Further east there is still the risk of risk of icy stretches on roads which have been wet by today's showers. On the higher routes in the west, above 200 metres, snow accumulations of 1-2cm are expected by Monday morning.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Sun 22-Dec-13 15:08:02

Thanks Hester and GloriaSmud.

nannynick Sun 22-Dec-13 15:18:10

Just arrived at my mums and it has started snowing. Got here just in time, snow may last a while or it may be gone by morning. Aberdeenshire.

TheGhostOfPortoPast Sun 22-Dec-13 15:18:11

It sounds quite scary!

GloriaSmud Sun 22-Dec-13 15:20:34

There's a statement from the Highways Agency about traveling in the next few days along with live travel information here.

virgin trains are accepting travel today for tomorrow's tickets.probably a bit late now most people won't see it?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 15:48:42

I'm back smile going to take me a while to sort myself out though.

apparently met office are about to reupdate according to c4

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 16:11:40

Interesting that gfs is now splitting the centre of the low into two centres. Not sure if its cos its struggling to resolve the data (and hence an artefact) or whether its really what will happen. It still looks jolly horrible.

I have no idea what is going on with the met office warnings. There should be ambers for wind in the south too. i know that the flooding is a real concern but people will think they dont need to worry about the wind.

TheGhostOfPortoPast Sun 22-Dec-13 16:16:45

I am certainly going to try to avoid the coast roads tomorrow!

We've got a two hour drive home from uni for Christmas tonight - were going to leave tomorrow but after seeing the forecast (we're travelling from Wrexham, which is in red on metcheck, back home to the coast, also in red) we decided to leave tonight or we're not sure we'll get back at all. The road we're taking is notorious for flooding and trees/power lines coming down in high winds, accidents along the stretch are very frequent and the weather's already started to turn sad

Wish we could've left yesterday or Friday sad

TheGreatHunt Sun 22-Dec-13 16:21:28

I reckon the amber/yellow warning, both for rain, is a massive typo.

they've just added wind, "only"yellow though

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 16:28:34

It doesnt quite make sense when in the rain section they have " Further inland, gusts of 50-60 mph are likely through the amber area, with a lower risk of gusts reaching 70 mph - more especially across southeast England during the evening."

and whilst 50-60mph does only need a yellow, the coastal 70-80mph should be an amber I think and on their webpage they have Crawley at 69mph. Crawley is well inland.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 16:36:11

A pretty good bbc forecast

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 16:46:14

Ok so to round up we have

Severe gales along the south coast, with the Sw being affected by late morning and the EA coast and SE early afternoon through the night.
Gales through southern counties. Flooding likely with very heavy rain.
Snow in the NW and central areas of scotland.
Very windy everywhere.

Severe gales in central and NW Scotland.
Blizzards in central and NW Scotland.
Heavy rain continues in the south for a while.
Windy everywhere.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 16:50:55
oricella Sun 22-Dec-13 17:51:51

Just adding Traffic Scotland; the live cameras are useful to check the situation before setting off.

2 degrees and sleety up north; I think the worst of it may be to the South of us

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 18:01:51

thanks oricella smile I think the snow could become a real issue. Looks like the pennines could see some snow too tomorrow.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 22:08:30

18z GFS is in. Looks very similar to the 06z, no weird double centre to it, tight pressure gradient in the south tomorrow, even tighter pressure gradient NW Scotland Tuesday. Some very heavy and prolonged rain in the south and snow in Scotland and perhaps over the Pennines. No changes from my previous forecast.

Hidingfromboss Sun 22-Dec-13 22:12:04

Winter wonderland in London closed tomorrow. Will I be safe in Habitat?..

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 22:16:28

I expect so, they have comfy sofas. Take some gin in case you get stranded there.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 22:18:48

It really is closed! Mind you high winds and 1-2 inches of rain would rather devastate the ground with people tromping all over it.

mummylin Sun 22-Dec-13 22:33:05

Does anyone have a link to ferry crossings? My friends due to travel at 1pm tomorrow on ferry to Isle of Wight

TheGhostOfPortoPast Sun 22-Dec-13 22:38:08
mummylin Sun 22-Dec-13 22:42:13


Perihelion Sun 22-Dec-13 22:42:46

Just heard from a pal who works at Easy Jet, that they are expecting and working on the basis that the amber alert ( wind ) in the South will go to red for expect flight fuck ups......

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 22:45:48

wightlink for isle wight ferries.

Peri, it's a bit confusing as strangely the met office haven't got amber wind alerts.

mummylin Sun 22-Dec-13 23:17:11

Thanks kitten. I think that's the one

Perihelion Sun 22-Dec-13 23:25:54

How odd Kitten.....Urgent enough for our Easy Jet pal to phone my Sister in law, who's been up here in Edinburgh visiting and was meant to fly back into Luton tommorow evening, and get her booked on a flight in the morning......Easy pal was also commenting on the post xmas storm on it's way and worried if SIL didn't get South tomorrow morning, it could be a while getting a flight South, what with delays, full flights, and Christmas chucked in the middle.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Sun 22-Dec-13 23:29:33

I'm not really understanding the reasonings behind the met office warnings this time. I know they have their own models, not released into the public domain and perhaps they are suggesting the winds won't be as bad in the south as models such as the GFS are suggesting.

Darkesteyes Sun 22-Dec-13 23:42:55

Its a possible power cut that worries me. DH has ischemic heart disease and needs the heating. I remember the storm of October 2002 No power for 18 hours and not far away in Gt Notley they were out for a week.

Perihelion Sun 22-Dec-13 23:46:14

Just read the last page here, looked at the Met Office and GFS and all I can come up with is that half of the Met Office is now on their xmas holidays and that it is very difficult to produce easily understandable warnings, using their current map/symbols, when there's so much weather happening all over the place......
Just looked at the post xmas low fshock
Hester I swear in Weather ( I may lower the tone grin ) One of my favourite rain descriptions is "wanking it down".......lots of that lately...

ChippingInLovesChristmasLights Mon 23-Dec-13 00:43:09

All a bit odd. It was a lovely day in London today fgrin

PseudoSanta Mon 23-Dec-13 01:12:10

Crapping myself about my flight (easyjet!) 1st thing on the 28thsad

youarewinning Mon 23-Dec-13 05:31:40

So much for the biggest freeze in decades!

digerd Mon 23-Dec-13 07:37:09

Temperature sank to 2 degrees at 4am but now is 6.6. Trees not moving.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Mon 23-Dec-13 07:55:34

I am worried as I can't understand what will happen for us. One year DH couldn't get home as the hill as closed, another year it took him 8 hours instead of 1 1/4 hours to get home. One year we were snowed in for 4 days. We are due at PIL for Christmas afternoon and I do not want to get stuck at their house, plus if we did our cats would be home alone sad.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 08:41:03

Morning all, quick forecast now, more later when I'm out of bed!

So the storm seems to be perhaps a little slower in terms of main impact in Scotland tomorrow. Unfortunately the result is a storm that will perhaps linger into Christmas Day. However it is right on track today sad pressures are dropping rapidly as the low pressure bombs (and meets the criteria for that twice over).

Flooding might not be quite so bad, but I don't think it means we can relax about that. Wind I think might be an issue even in non warned areas so take it easy where ever you are.

I will eat my snotty tissue if the met office don't issue an amber for the SE for late tonight when it still looks likely that some of it will see gusts of 70-80mph. Other than that, there is still the snow for Scotland to contend with, but also I think perhaps welsh hills and the Pennines.

GloriaSmud Mon 23-Dec-13 08:42:07

There's a BBC news report and live updates here on the weather/travel disruption.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 08:45:57

Youarewinning - that was the express smile silly old sods aren't they.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 08:48:35

That's rather handy Gloria, thanks smile

GloriaSmud Mon 23-Dec-13 08:49:04

I was thinking the SE might get an amber warning for tonight. I also wondered about the possibility of an amber warning for the NW/west coast of Scotland/England down to mid Wales for tomorrow for wind as well.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 08:49:59

Toffee hopefully my update has helped?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 08:51:04

I think those areas will end up with amber too Gloria, not sure how far south it will extend.

GloriaSmud Mon 23-Dec-13 09:16:06

Ooo I might have got that right?!

The Guardian have also got live updates on their website. Have only glanced at it but it looks to have more information and could be more useful than the BBC one.

TheGhostOfPortoPast Mon 23-Dec-13 09:20:39

was a gorgeous morning in Brussels. Getting increasingly gloomy looking as we approach Calais. no wind and rain yet. I don't think dh quite believes me about the storm. grin grin grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 09:26:00

Will have a look at the guardian one once I've set breakfast up smile

You are euro tunnellingit aren't you Porto? Your dh will have a lovely surprise when he arrives! (Though the worst wont be til later)

HerdyTheRedNosedHerdwick Mon 23-Dec-13 09:30:09

Wind and rain in the Cheshire Gap, but nothing particularly out of the ordinary at the moment.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Mon 23-Dec-13 09:33:21

Thank you OhYouM.. So gales for us sad. Currently have a bit of wind and fast rain coming down.

TheGhostOfPortoPast Mon 23-Dec-13 09:35:38

yep. we are about 30 mins from Calais. hoping to reach destination before it gets too bad.

LadyCelia Mon 23-Dec-13 09:41:53

It's getting bloody blowy here in Surrey already, I am hoping to rush through my work this morning (must get off MN!) and get home early.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 09:51:23

toffee - very much so. I would make sure garden items are secure - especially if you have a trampoline.

oldsilver Mon 23-Dec-13 10:10:11

It's not very pleasant here in Bristol. Howling out there already and torrential, driving rain - we are meant to go see Father Christmas today ...hopefully we'll still be in the 3 hour queue during the worst of it.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 10:12:25

still a lot of concern today for the south from some well seasoned, notoriously calm forecasters.

I hoe that queue is indoors oldsilver, it may calm down a little this afternoon before it picks up again.

oldsilver Mon 23-Dec-13 10:16:36

fsmile it is or at least the start is fwink My cat deterrent, which is quite heavy just blew down the garden.

pepperrabbit Mon 23-Dec-13 10:19:21

North East Hants here, a bit blowy, but nothing special so far, it was wetter at 8am when I dropped DH and the 3DCs at the station this morning - take your kids to work day!
I am a tiny bit worried about them getting home mid afternoon from Waterloo - DH was being very blasé about potential disruption [fcross]
Serve him right if he's stuck on a train for 3 hours with 3 unhappy kids, but I feel a bit sorry for the DC sad

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 10:23:37

So, the storm for Friday/Saturday:

At the moment gFS has it on the edge of NI by Thursday midnight. Its a different sort of set up from today, at the moment it is modelled to be a mature storm and slowly weakening as it moves over us. Nevertheless the central pressure is forecast to go down to 940hPa.

By Friday evening it will be affecting the whole of the UK with strong/gale force winds. The rain although heavy in places shouldnt be as problematic today, except that it will be falling on saturated ground. Id say at the moment the worst affected areas look to be northern england and the midlands, but this may well change. It is a very slow moving storm and unfortunately will cause issues right through Saturday for the north.

Outlook is for it to remain very unsettled but some hints of winter arriving in January.

PseudoSanta Mon 23-Dec-13 10:34:14

Getting a bit blowy here in London. Thought it might be fun to record pressures - 998 at 10.20.

TheGreatHunt Mon 23-Dec-13 10:39:50

Wind picking up a bit (London) but not too bad.

BoJolly Mon 23-Dec-13 10:51:07

Strong winds & rain in Oldham. We're in quite an exposed spot though.

It makes me very nervous as we have a huge tree a few metres from the house. If it fell, it would take half the house with it sad.

HesterShaw Mon 23-Dec-13 11:19:32

Absolutely miserable here! Very glad we delayed our journey for 24 hours.

Just had a 61mph gust and the rain is coming into the kitchen conservatory and down the chimney again. Waaaaah sad

Very wet & windy in the Irish Sea area at the moment, and we have Storm Force 10 winds forecast for tomorrow during the day!! Thats windy even by our standards!

LadyStark Mon 23-Dec-13 11:35:34

pepperrabbit - I was in similar situation but decided to work from home and pack DD off to a friend instead of taking her into London. Relieved now that I did as SW Trains have already cancelled a number of services this afternoon, hope your line is better than mine.

Here are changes they've made so far.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 11:36:31

Its really picking up here, but the rain isnt too bad yet.

LadyStark Mon 23-Dec-13 11:36:37

Bloody horrid here in Surrey, I need to pick DD up about 1pm from her friends which is only a 5 minute walk away. Would it be ridiculous to take a taxi? grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 11:38:23

I read "On Tuesday 24 December first train services may be run as route proving trains (empty trains) to operate through the affected section of track to check no obstructions are on the track." on te SW trains site and thought about those intrepid drivers wondering what they will come across.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 11:40:08

amber warnings for the SE

I think the northern ambers will go up later today.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 11:43:38

Lifted from the met office site for anyone on mobile devices:
"Southwesterly gales and locally severe gales will continue across southern and eastern parts of England during Monday night, but are expected to strengthen further across parts of southeast England, in the Amber warning area, during the early hours of Tuesday, with gusts of 65-75 mph inland and 75-85 mph along exposed coasts. The winds will ease from the west by morning."

HesterShaw Mon 23-Dec-13 11:44:54

Though tomorrow looks just as bad. Sigh.

MIL will clearly never speak to us if we don't go. She would rather we risked life and limb for her Determined Family Christmas.

I was supposed to go to Hastings today to visit my dad and stay overnight (we traditionally do Christmas on Christmas Eve), but all trains are cancelled. A landslip at Wadhurst. Hours of heavy rain later aren't going to help that situation...

LostInWales Mon 23-Dec-13 11:55:01

Roads are flooded all over here already. I dread what to think it will be like by tomorrow if this level of rain keeps up.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 11:55:14

Hester, I think it will be a little easier tomorrow, especially if you can leave it a little while. Might need a chainsaw though to get through the roads!

pepperrabbit Mon 23-Dec-13 11:59:48

LadyStark it's certainly picked up here in the last hour. DH has promised to head home as soon as he can if it gets really bad. I think he's having too much fun at the children's' party... At least he's given up on his plan to take the kids along the South Bank to look at "Christmassy stuff" hmm on the way back to the station!
He says he may work from home tomorrow and they haven't cancelled any of the relevant trains yet.

LadyStark Mon 23-Dec-13 12:03:45

My DP works in Canary Wharf and although you get an excellent view of the weather I don't think you really "feel" it as much in the City due to lack of trees and being protected a bit by all the high buildings. I just called him and suggested he head back early and he clearly thinks I am worrying too much!

The South Bank wouldn't be much fun today I don't think, good call Mr.Pepper.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 12:04:04
GloriaSmud Mon 23-Dec-13 12:05:00

Yellow and amber warnings for the north of the UK now. We seem to be in the tiny triangle with no warnings at all.
Current pressure reading ~ 989.4 and strongest wind gust 24mph a few minutes ago at 11.53.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 12:08:41

Thanks Gloria.

Reports of a tree down on the rail line near Guildford.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 12:09:43

The updated warnings may be reflecting the path of the storm coming more southerly than expected.

BoJolly Mon 23-Dec-13 12:21:40

Just put my location on the metoffice site and it's showing the strongest gusts (42mph) for around now then it eases off a bit. Same for tomorrow.

I dread to think what people are experiencing with stronger gusts - it looks wild out there.

I've just started a thread on this so sorry to gatecrash this one - do I tell my sister not to come till tomorrow? Supposed to be leaving Somerset shortly to come to me in Surrey via the A303. Not looking good, is it?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 12:25:20

Absolutely thistle, tell her to stay put and wait til mid morning tomorrow.

Ok will do, thanks x

mummylin Mon 23-Dec-13 12:27:34

Friends ferry from Lymington been diverted to Portsmouth

AuntieStella Mon 23-Dec-13 12:29:53

IIRC, one of the approach roads to the Dartford Tunnel was out of action anyway (subsidence following burst water main) so traffic had to use minor roads to get to it. If that closure is still in place, with the bridge shut too, I expect the traffic there is going to be very snarled indeed.

ReastieYuleANBU Mon 23-Dec-13 12:31:50

Getting windier here in Kent with more rain and rather ominously dark

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 12:36:23

your poor poor friend mummylin. nightmare crossing. It gets envy if some sneezes on the wightlink boats.

EdithWeston Mon 23-Dec-13 12:37:44

Not too bad here (yet?) (E Midlands) but we've decided to postpone a journey to visit family. We might try tomorrow, or leave until after Christmas.

Footle Mon 23-Dec-13 12:43:28

Fascinating thread . Any advice for us, driving from Cumbria to Sheffield tomorrow ?

Darkesteyes Mon 23-Dec-13 12:46:33

Loving the facebook and twitter updates from uk power saying to follow them for updates if there is a power cut
I would need power to be able to do that

No power = no internet.

ethelb Mon 23-Dec-13 12:47:49

@darkesteyes keep your phone charged!

busylizzie76 Mon 23-Dec-13 13:03:21


wwyd in my situation.....I'm in kent and it is wet and wind at the moment, not too bad but simile to get worse as day/evening goes on. I am meant to be getting the train to London with my 2 DCs (6&7), my dsis, dniece and dm (in her 70s)....we're going to the theatre (finishes about 10.30pm) and the tickets were very expensive. We are worried about getting to London and not being able to get back....if they stop the trains!

Thoughts? Would you go?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 13:09:16

I wouldnt go busylizzie, I think the trains might stop. Which train company are you with?

I have everything charging. We lose power very easily here and there are already a lot of reports of powercuts. I have my powercut box out of the loft and on standby.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 13:10:35

Edith- I wouldnt plan it for the 27th/28th at present. Tomorrow would be a better day I think for you.

Footle- I'd leave it as late in the day as you can if you have to go.

ethelb Mon 23-Dec-13 13:15:29

Greater Anglia are saying no trains until at leat 10am tomorrow so it looks like we won't be heading off until Tuesday afternoon. Unless we made a dash for it now but I would rather wait than be stuck on a train behind a fallen down tree for four hours.

Its not a long journey (1h) but fingers crossed we make it by midnight on Christmas Eve. Anyone else travelling by train tomorrow (or planning to?!)

Darkesteyes Mon 23-Dec-13 13:16:31

Keeping phone charged but its a cheap t mobile smartphone. All i can do is scroll down twitter and read the most recent ten messages. Cant actually tweet or comment on facebook and its a struggle to get MN at all.
I love how these companies assume we have all got state of the art iphones.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 13:22:58

darkest - I have no idea why we lose mobile internet when the power goes out - unless the local mast runs on the same power supply. Very irritating.

Footle Mon 23-Dec-13 13:30:11

Kitten, thank you for that ( Cumbria to Sheffield ). Back up to Cumbria on Friday - I'll look out for updates on that.
You must be a practicing meteorologist I suppose ? You're doing a great job here.

Darkesteyes Mon 23-Dec-13 13:36:20

Seconded Yes you are Kitten Thankyou thanks

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 13:50:06

Footle - very practising - just an obsessed amateur, which is why I put out a lot of disclaimers about following my advice, in case I get it wrong.

early warnings for friday over the entire UK.

Read a report that Fenchurch street is currently closed.

ElbowPrincess Mon 23-Dec-13 14:01:48

Im on the east coast Scotland, whats in store for us?

sittingbythefairylights Mon 23-Dec-13 14:02:49

Fingers crossed for me please - currently on a met line train. Seems bit wet outside, but no reports of delays yet. Normally first line to go down.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 14:03:33

will be back shortly, am off for a walk to admire the weather first hand (avoiding trees)

JKSLtd Mon 23-Dec-13 14:04:28

Following the weather updates avidly.

Have told parents to go north around the m25 as the Dartford crossing will be a nightmare. And to leave slightly later than planned to give everything time to recover from the night & hopefully the wind to die down a bit.

Brother also planning to fly from west Ireland to Heathrow tomorrow lunchtime, bets on being delayed??

Do we have any links for Irish weather as the Met Office doesn't seem to include it.

Do hope no-one gets hurt so close to Christmas, seems worse somehow.

HerdyTheRedNosedHerdwick Mon 23-Dec-13 14:09:51

It's turned particularly unpleasant here - rural south Cheshire- in the last hour. It's far from the worst I've seen since I've lived here, but it's not nice and I'm glad I don't have to go out.

Anyone wondering about Manchester Airport, at the moment flights are leaving but take off and landing volume has been reduced, so a lot of planes are somewhat delayed. There have been a couple of inbound diversions.

EdithWeston Mon 23-Dec-13 14:11:00

Thanks Kitten - we're currently planning on tomorrow morning, unless something strange happens. And instead of driving, this afternoon I'm baking (my silver lining to these clouds - and I hope everyone else is OK).

kateecass Mon 23-Dec-13 14:26:15

Damn I've just seen this!! Am supposed to be going from Manchester to North Hants tomorrow am until Friday. Should we leave boxing day evening instead? I see there are weather warnings for whole of UK for Friday.

upjacobscreekwithoutapaddle Mon 23-Dec-13 14:28:12

Well, as you predicted the other day kitten it is indeed hell en route to Somerset from Herts. Unfortunately we had to leave at the worst possible time! In traffic by Stonehenge at the moment. Torrential rain, very strong gusts and at some points very little visibility. So pleased Dh driving and doing a stellar job.looking forward to a roaring fire and wine later!

JKSLtd Mon 23-Dec-13 14:31:10

Oh dear Jacobs that's bad - i've been stuck on that stretch before in rain. It's so long and tedious.

Lizzabadger Mon 23-Dec-13 14:33:54

Not too bad here (Bucks). A few gusts of wind but quite still in between.

jks you need to Google met eireann. I find they under report everything and very slow to get in a flap.this can be both good and bad.

Footle Mon 23-Dec-13 14:47:23

Kitten , I'm practising spelling practicing.. never used to have trouble with spelling but decided to go with spellcheck, which has misled me. Hope the trees avoid you.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 15:10:02

The worst that clobbered me was a bit of bamboo grin. Need to warm up a bit and dry off.

Kate, leave it as late as you can, might be still a bit wild Manchester way but hopefully calmer by the time you get down to the south.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 15:20:15

Seems to be a squall line developing at the back of this: radar
Going to get a lot windier for those in the way of that.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 15:37:11

And as you might expect with a radar showing a broken squall line like that now TORRO have issued a tornado watch covering both this squall line and the frontal wave that will cross tonight.

JillJ72 Mon 23-Dec-13 15:37:23

Wild and woolly in north Bucks, wind got up around midday and squally rain accompanying it. Set up my new digital weather station which seems to think the indoor temp is 25c; I don't think so (user teething troubles).

youarewinning Mon 23-Dec-13 16:37:42

Fareham area in Southern Hampshire. Bloody awful here. Localised flooding and trees down in various places. I actually was avoiding wheelie bins when I drove to my parents to deliver Xmas gifts.
Luckily dad was in earlier than planned because quite rightly I decided driving this in the dark would be stupid when not actually absolutely necessary.

pepperrabbit Mon 23-Dec-13 16:38:59

<stupid question alert>
Is the squall line the purple bit coming across the middle north/south ish?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 16:42:42

Thats the one pepper.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 16:47:02

latest GFS has tightened the pressure gradient even further for scotland through tomorrow and sadly into the first part of Christmas day too. I think there may be more wide spread gusts of 80mph up there in the amber warning area, with the usual ridiculous gusts in the Cairngorms.

It has moved friday's storm further north, taking the south out of the firing line but looking very nasty indeed once again in Scotland with similar gusts to tomorrow unfortunately. It may well change and come south again, so its something to keep an eye on for us all.

Its followed in quick succession by a little low on Sunday and one on New Years eve, both need to be watched.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 16:57:18

All trains from Euston reported to be currently suspended.

Lots of royal parks being closed early due to the weather in London (would you be able to see much at night anyway?)

TheGhostOfPortoPast Mon 23-Dec-13 17:00:51

We arrived in Kent safe and sound by 1pm. It is very wild and windy out tonight - but nothing extreme. We are just deciding who is going to brace the fish and chip shop on the seafront.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 17:03:04

Seafront? Report back!! grin but go soon as the first squall front will be with you in about an hour or so.

TheGhostOfPortoPast Mon 23-Dec-13 17:09:20

Actually I have just been hanging out the kitchen door for a fag some fresh air, and the wind is really picking up. It's raining but not THAT hard. Well send to chippy soonish. We are only 2 roads back from the sea.

TheGreatHunt Mon 23-Dec-13 17:13:59

verywindy and wet here in SE london but doesn;t feel too bad. however i think the winds will be peaking in a few hours?

scripsi Mon 23-Dec-13 17:14:44

any thoughts on my neighbour who is due to be driving down to Devon (from Herts) at around 6am tomorrow? We are looking up forecasts. We have howling winds and heavy rain here at the moment.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 17:20:23

It will still be windy, but not as bonkers, but the rain will be starting to clear out. However if I were her, if she can, i'd wait until first light so that she can see any downed trees easily. There are a lot of reports of trees coming down now and the worst is yet to come.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 17:21:50

Greathunt the worst will be between approx 10/11pm and 3am.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Mon 23-Dec-13 17:22:58

Made it back from shop with dd and ds2. DD was overwhelmed by horizontal rain and wind so I was allowed to grab her. DH leaving work any minute so I have texted him to be careful as bits of wood are blowing around the village.

Trampoline went away months ago and the Tardis is solid enough so I think we will be okay though the bin might go. I will get DH to jam them in somewhere as someone's has already blown into the road.

TheGreatHunt Mon 23-Dec-13 17:23:33

yes - just been checking. I looked at this (my nearest town) which indicates gusts of 70mph. REALLY?!

scripsi Mon 23-Dec-13 17:24:23

Great idea Kitten. She will have DCs and dogs in the car (don't envy her!). A later start would certainly make most sense.

nannynick Mon 23-Dec-13 17:25:34

Been fine here on eastern edge of Cairngorms national park. Snow earlier turned to rain.

Tightened pressure gradient - what does that mean, lots of wind?

Helpyourself Mon 23-Dec-13 17:30:31

The fence between our drive and next door has blown down, blocking our drive. I'm hiding because I know NDN will suggest it was because revellers were swinging on it after DD1's party.
Fair enough, except a) the party was a year ago b) it's been pushed over by their bin and c) in dog proofing our garden we gifted them a £2000 fence in the back.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 17:33:04

Yup Greathunt - that looks rather likely.

nannynick - yes. Some are speculating gusts to 100mph, but I think 90mph is more realistic (except up high where there will be silly numbers!)

helpyourself, do they hold grudges much? grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 17:35:31

looks like I will be getting very similar windspeeds. We've postponed our early morning 'meat dash' because a) it will give thhem time to clear up the trees and b)I'm going to be knackered from admiring the wind.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Mon 23-Dec-13 17:37:18

BoJelly - I just tried to find out wind speed but can't work out where the link is. Can you help please?

DH home safe.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Mon 23-Dec-13 17:39:48

I have found it. 60 mph atm.

pepperrabbit Mon 23-Dec-13 17:44:09

Just got back from collecting Dh and the bedraggled DCs from the station. Train was very late so DH texted me when they were at the next station so I could set off - and there's a tree down directly in my path... So a 10 minute round trip took 40mins.
Very dangerous with all the trees down in the dark sad

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 17:46:16

Well done for getting them back ok pepper - was your dh suitably contrite?

BoJolly Mon 23-Dec-13 17:49:19

Wow Toffee - 60mph!! shock

It's gone quite calm here now. I know we haven't had anything as like as bad as other people but I still find the wind very scary.

pepperrabbit Mon 23-Dec-13 17:50:00

Not noticeably!
But he has offered to go out and get me a takeaway later as he had loads of food at work - so that may count as contrite in his head grin

Perihelion Mon 23-Dec-13 17:53:48

Am over admiring the wind now.......although did go "ooh a South Easterly" when I was out today.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 17:54:35

You get to pick everything he orders for sure!

TheGreatHunt Mon 23-Dec-13 18:00:32

Well 70mph means I'm not sleeping in our attic room tonight!!!!

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Mon 23-Dec-13 18:03:01

sad 2 people have died.

pigleychez Mon 23-Dec-13 18:10:15

A very gusty Kent here.

VERY blowy. Poor DH is on his way home on a very slow train then has to cycle home! sad I'd offer to collect him from the station but cant get his bike in the car with the kids too. Looks like he will be pushing it home.

On a plus note hes decided to work from home tomorrow to save dealing with the trains in the morning. The girls are really excited so not sure how much work he will actually get done though! smile

The wind sounds really scary out there. Quite paranoid about the patio furniture coming in through the bi fold doors shock

mummylin Mon 23-Dec-13 18:35:56

How sad toffeewhat has happened. Poor poor families too

Very windy in Irish Sea area, we have storm force 10 winds on the forecast tomorrow. No ice skating for my DD's sad 60 - 70 mph wind we can cope with, we are expected to get 80+mph tomorrow. No boats sailing from now until xmas day, could be interesting as people struggle to make their Christmas dinner without all the stuff they have ordered... Turkey on Boxing Day anyone??? smile

phantomnamechanger Mon 23-Dec-13 18:42:49

pigley we're in kent too - DH usual train didn't leave Canterbury due to tree on the line, so he got the bus, got half way home, tree on road. Is now too late to collect the car from being serviced so will have to get it tomorrow, meaning I don't know when I will do the last minute grocery shop which I was hoping to do either 11pm or 6am. He may miss his connecting bus home too and have a long walk home! Also worried about people we know travelling long distances for xmas today. It's so windy the kids are scared sad, and they're not littlies.

getdownshep Mon 23-Dec-13 18:44:01

Aah my dd is travelling from London Waterloo to West Sussex, I'm so worried sad, god know what time she will get here.

HamletsSister Mon 23-Dec-13 18:49:03

How bad for Mallaig tomorrow? We regularly get to 80mph winds without bother but more and we, inevitably lose power. Should we eat our Christmas Eve dinner early? Nightmare!

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Mon 23-Dec-13 18:50:11

mummylin - 2 people blown separately into the sea and a river.

busylizzie76 Mon 23-Dec-13 18:58:10

Just got stuck on the road home - massive tree home to find large tree down in front garden....luckily nowhere near house......river out the back is rather close to the house thoughblush ..I've got the candles and wine at the ready

LumpySpacePrincessOhMyGlob Mon 23-Dec-13 19:12:43

Tis mighty blowy in Kent Pigleychez and Phantom

I was taking dd to Westward Chaos tomorrow which involves getting a train to Ramsgate then a bus. Might give that a miss.

ElbowPrincess Mon 23-Dec-13 19:17:20

Hello there Lumpy wink

I think we are in for it up here tomorrow, luckily I can hibernate until after Christmas!

LumpySpacePrincessOhMyGlob Mon 23-Dec-13 19:28:18

ElbowPrincess grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 19:46:06

Quieter here for a little time, so took a breather to be with my family. Seems that a secondary centre is forming in this system which unfortunately means strong winds further south in scotland and maybe into northern england. Its still a really nasty beast.

Kitten, I'm keeping my eye on Friday's storm. We're due to go to the Outlaws in East Lancs in Saturday. MIL never ever watches a weather forecast (she's planned a familg Bbq for at a weeks notice based on the fact "it's nice now"). So if travel plans could be disrupted cancelled, I should probably start making sounds about it now before they get the meat out of the freezer.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 19:55:46

look at the SWtrains website
not good for those trying to get home.

Antidote Mon 23-Dec-13 19:58:52

It's blowing a hoolie, pouring with rain and lots of surface water.

DH had refused to see sense so we are on route on the M5 north from, Exeter.

There was a lull at about 6.30 when we left. The question for you kitten is: have we caught up the storm in front, or have we been overtaken by the weather behind?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 19:59:59

Hamlets - I think you could see 90mph. Sorry.

TheGhostOfPortoPast Mon 23-Dec-13 20:12:28

DD nearly got blown over on trip to chip shop on Deal Seafront. Luckily DH had hold of her. Fish and chips were lovely. And mr Sainsbury made it in one piece. At least we don't have to go out til Boxing Day now. Watching the news I am glad we travelled early today. Looks horrendous for some people sad Friends in the villages near Sandwich have no power.

phantomnamechanger Mon 23-Dec-13 20:19:08

Porto - we've sat on deal pier in the summer eating ice cream and its been windy & cold, dread to think what its like there tonight!

TheGhostOfPortoPast Mon 23-Dec-13 20:27:17

DH suggested going out to the pub! Sod that. We are staying put in our lovely rental cottage with wine and the fire on.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 20:32:17

Very sensible Porto as it is due to get worse.

SpottyChristmasCakes Mon 23-Dec-13 20:35:42

Wiiiiiindy! How's Saturday looking? My dads got a shoot but I'm sure that all the pheasants will have blown away hmmgrin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 20:38:16

Fridays storm looks likely to last through much of Saturday. Main question I think is position.

Am pinned to sofa by two cats who normally fight so typing is a little restricted.

PaschasDanglyReindeerBaubles Mon 23-Dec-13 20:43:16

M sitting here I'm ds1's bedroom as he won't sleep. The wind is howling round the house, I can feel the house shake in this room as it's on the corner. It has a sloping roof too so no getting away from every creak and bang and wail.

We're getting the full brunt of the wind straight up from dungeness.

I don't like it fsad

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 20:51:51

Hang in there Pascha - why dont you make a snuggly nest downstairs for your ds, it could be a long night and you both might feel safer down there.

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Mon 23-Dec-13 20:52:29

Even louder wind now. Eek.

lunatrick Mon 23-Dec-13 21:09:33

Very windy here in Ramsgate. Am in a 13th floor flat and can feel it swaying! The christmas tree is wobbling, as are the hanging decorations. The whole place is vibrating. The wind is blowing rain in through the seals on the windows - already had to replace one soaked tea towel on the kitchen window sill. I'm sure my ears were threatening to pop while I was standing up.

Cat is getting spooked by it and often her tail goes bog brush style fgrin.

I'm snuggled on the sofa with my slanket, dreading going to bed and being kept awake by this when I have a 5am start tomorrow!

Hamlets sister, nice to hear from another islander smile we are way south of you & due to get a pasting tomorrow sad I would assume you will have no power & to cook your xmas dinner early. Although, do you actually have what you need for dinner with no boats going??? I'm making raspberry jam tarts instead of mince pies for xmas day due to there being nothing in the shops....

LumpySpacePrincessOhMyGlob Mon 23-Dec-13 21:17:25

Wind seems to be picking up now.

lunatrick that sounds terrifying. shock

Going to Deal tomorrow was our plan B, think we will just sit tight and do some baking instead.

LadyCelia Mon 23-Dec-13 21:19:09

My house feels like it's shaking too, and the fire keeps blowing smoke through the house, grrr. DS is not settling either, we've Allplassed the old windows to keep the draughts out but the noise it is making from the wind is so loud and keeps waking him up.

And DH is a nob, he's gone from deepest Surrey to N London to watch the football this evening, god knows how he will get home with SW trains in their current state.

PaschasDanglyReindeerBaubles Mon 23-Dec-13 21:27:30

He went to sleep! I fully expect him to wake again soon though. We have had a couple of power dropouts, just a few seconds so torches are at the ready. We will all sleep together in our bedroom if needs be.

Sounds like all of us around the Kent coast are feeling it badly.

GloriaSmud Mon 23-Dec-13 21:27:59

Wind eased off here (Leicester) around 4pm with our top wind gust being 30mph at 12.16. Wind's started getting up again in the last hour and the pressure is falling again ~ 975.3 at the moment.

DH arrived home at 1pm saying that despite the weather, his boss had just left to travel down to the Isle of Wight to pick his mother (or MIL) up and was expecting to travel back to Leicester, ready for work tomorrow. <wonders how he's getting on>

TheGhostOfPortoPast Mon 23-Dec-13 21:29:08

In Deal it is definitely getting worse. Lunatrick that DOES sound scary sad

lunatrick Mon 23-Dec-13 21:29:39

It is rather unnerving, but fascinating at the same time. It's the worst we've known it in the few years we've lived here. Even DH keeps saying 'woah, did you feel that?' He spent a few minutes watching the tea in his mug on the floor rippling!

We're just across the bay from Deal and Sandwich fsmile

LumpySpacePrincessOhMyGlob Mon 23-Dec-13 21:37:45

I'm in Sandwich. fgrin

Waves across the water to lunatrick

oldsilver Mon 23-Dec-13 21:41:06

After the lull comes the storm ... it is positively roaring out there again after calming down this afternoon (only a 3/4 hour wait to see Father Christmas and as DS is going to be 8 on the 25th so I don't think he'll want to go next year).

oldsilver Mon 23-Dec-13 21:41:08

After the lull comes the storm ... it is positively roaring out there again after calming down this afternoon (only a 3/4 hour wait to see Father Christmas and as DS is going to be 8 on the 25th so I don't think he'll want to go next year).

lunatrick Mon 23-Dec-13 21:46:55

I'm waving back from my lounge window fgrin

In danger of getting hypnotised by the swaying baubles on the christmas tree and the cat is hiding behind DH!

Waving to all East Kent (Thanet) people (luna that sounds really scary!), its really bad out there, watching the bushes in the front garden looking like they might take off in a minute. Ive already seen one street light down earlier and theres one staring at me on the pavement, hoping he stays there and not comes through my window in the night shock DD, 19, was blown over coming out of Tescos at Westward X earlier, luckly she held onto the trolley and didnt lose my christmas shopping grin

curlew Mon 23-Dec-13 21:55:57

It's incredibly windy here near Sittingbourne- worse than the gale we were supposed to have had a few weeks ago.....

TheGreatHunt Mon 23-Dec-13 21:55:59

Picking up here in London! I'm sleeping in the living room (attic bedrooms) - I remember a bad storm a couple of years ago and could feel the roof swaying. Never again!

LadyFlumpalot Mon 23-Dec-13 21:59:00

Crikey! It had all calmed down an hour ago! Now it's raging again in North Dorset. Any idea when it will pass over by, Kitten?

Geckos48 Mon 23-Dec-13 22:01:08

Serious weather in South Wiltshire. Really full on

furbaby Mon 23-Dec-13 22:07:36

Same as lady I am in North Dorset and I am sure this is worse than the last storms .
Stream at bottom of garden was over the banks and heading up to our garden at tea time sad
Dread to think how far its gone up into our garden .
lucky that garden goes up 2 levels before it gets to house so fingers crossed we don't get flooded .

curlew Mon 23-Dec-13 22:08:17

Apparently part of a house has blown down in Whitstable........

pepperrabbit Mon 23-Dec-13 22:11:25

Same here (NE Hampshire), it was a bit calmer for a while but really sudden hefty gusts again now.
South West Trains have announced there are no trains till after 7.30am tomorrow. That pretty much sorts out the "shall DH try to go to the office" question.
Lights keep dipping dramatically....

LadyFlumpalot Mon 23-Dec-13 22:12:48

Just had a blast that actually made me duck! sad DS is sleeping through it still.

lunatrick Mon 23-Dec-13 22:13:56

I think I have to try going to sleep. Fingers crossed the sound of the wind doesn't keep me awake!

Hope everyone else is keeping safe fgrin

LadyFlumpalot Mon 23-Dec-13 22:14:35

I'm just down from Shaftesbury on the Langfords side Furbaby, DH just came back in from Shaftesbury Tesco and said there's a fair few bits of tree in the road.

piratecat Mon 23-Dec-13 22:16:06

south Devon, 87mph.

it's pretty scary. i'm at the top of a hill. dd can't get to sleep. i pray everyone is ok out there.x

curlew Mon 23-Dec-13 22:25:19

Ds and dog, who have the ludicrously noisy bedroom, have moved into our bed. Dp is about to join them. I think I'm going to sleep in the living room,which is the quietest, with the cats.

MrsClauswearsspanx Mon 23-Dec-13 22:25:23

piratecat we must be close. Currently watching our back garden trees blow sideways.

furbaby Mon 23-Dec-13 22:26:16

lady I am about 9 miles away from you smile
That road from Tescos in shaftsbury down to langfords has loads of trees along side the road , not suprised branches are down . Glad your dh made it home safe .
our power keeps flickering , praying it doesnt go out with full freezer and fridge .

Geckos48 Mon 23-Dec-13 22:33:09

Just getting worse and worse now...

LadyFlumpalot Mon 23-Dec-13 22:35:28

Our power isn't flickering yet, Furbaby. I'm just glad I'm down in the dip and not right on the hill.

Not looking forward to trying to battle through to DHs work (Bourton) in the morning. He wants to go via Gill to see how high the river is. I think we'll ve lucky to get as far as Gill as that means either getting up Semley Hollow or down past the Coppleridge.

furbaby Mon 23-Dec-13 22:42:45

Thats spooky lady I live where your husband works .
Yes maybe better go coppleridge , mere way .

LadyFlumpalot Mon 23-Dec-13 22:45:26

Ha! grin What are the chances! smile

furbaby Mon 23-Dec-13 22:50:21

Very strange . grin
I wish you luck for getting here tomorrow .
I am only going as far as Mere tomorrow so should be fine smile

Darkesteyes Mon 23-Dec-13 22:56:19

praying it doesnt go out with full freezer and fridge

Me too We cant afford to replace it. Dh is 63 and remembers lots of storms but not power cuts with them like we get these days. The infastructure is weak what with lack of maintenance due to profits being put first.
Well the public didnt ask for privatisation so i dont see why we should take the hit.
In Oct 2002 we were out of power for 18 hrs and lost a fridgeful of food Further up the road they were out for a week. Any payment forthcoming to replace food lost back then? Nope Zilch.

HesterShaw Mon 23-Dec-13 22:57:24

Sounds like Kent is getting the worst of it then.

flatmum Mon 23-Dec-13 23:00:00

We're in East Surrey. I've just put our dc in our bed at the back of the house as the trees at the front are really swaying.

We had a 5 minute power cut around 10. Scary, with fridge and freezer full.
Earlier on traffic came to a halt when a tree fell down across the road, flattening a parked car.
It's still very very windy (SE London).

Darkesteyes Mon 23-Dec-13 23:06:22

still very windy here in Essex.

toomanyeasterbunnies Mon 23-Dec-13 23:07:48

I'm east surrey too and the wind is raging. It's a bit scary. Keep safe everyone.

AndIFeedEmGunpowder Mon 23-Dec-13 23:08:43

It's quite scary! Haven't heard the wind whistle like this is London before.

Awful wind here in Herts. It's the scary kind and think it's brought our tv aerial or something connected to our chimney pot down sad

LaFataTurchina Mon 23-Dec-13 23:09:29

Our (old) windows are rattling here in SW London. I'm actually a bit scared that the bathroom window could go right off its hinges.

ethelb Mon 23-Dec-13 23:11:20

@cinnemon the lights keep flickering here in sw london which is making for some fairly dramatic startrek viewing.

Seriously though it was gusty before now it is just a constant roar. Good solid victorian window frames rattling which they didnt in the last storm confused

Looking forward to lie in tomorrow due to seriously disrupted trains wink

ethelb Mon 23-Dec-13 23:11:54

Xpost with @lafata grin

LaFataTurchina Mon 23-Dec-13 23:12:27

Oh gosh at least our lights haven't started flickering yet!

LadyCelia are you my mother? My dad has gone from deepest Surrey to N London for the football too.

It's a little bit scary here in Surrey. I don't want my roof to blow off please.

piratecat Mon 23-Dec-13 23:21:33


hope you are ok.

maybe we are neighbours?

Perihelion Mon 23-Dec-13 23:22:04

Ice warning for most of Scotland tomorrow.
Wind starting to pick up in Edinburgh, pressure 961 and falling.

So glad ds is asleep in bed as a load of stuff has just fallen down the chimney into the fireplace, Ive had a quick look from outside and it looks ok so must have been the wind blowing something down, but bless ds would have thought it was Father Christmas coming early!

plum100 Mon 23-Dec-13 23:26:24

We have tain pouring in under our bedroom window - soaking through to downstairs! Dh has set up a diversion for it to fall into a biwl in bedroom and it sounds like a running tap - i am scared

FestiveYoni Mon 23-Dec-13 23:31:04

scary here too, strongest winds i have seen south east outside london fshock i thought they were supposed to die down tonight?

Darkesteyes Mon 23-Dec-13 23:35:05

Just seen on uk power networks fb page. Apparently power cuts overnight in Essex are inevitable. And they dont compensate for lost food Apparently the public have to claim on their home insurance.
Sorry to hear about your leak plum Thats shit. When is this crap going to end?!!

Darkesteyes Mon 23-Dec-13 23:35:48

The bit about not compensating for lost food was on twitter.

gallicgirl Mon 23-Dec-13 23:36:54

In South Essex. Nothing between us and Thames except a load of fields. Feels like wind is blowing rain right into porch! Never heard the wind howl so badly. Definitely seems worse than any storms we've had over last few weeks.
Hope everyone is safe.

ethelb Mon 23-Dec-13 23:41:42

I think the band of awfulness hits london around 3 am then dies down.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 23:52:31

Sorry, for my absence, weather related dramas of my own here. Sorted I hope.

Power is very dodgy now.

harrietfromharrow Mon 23-Dec-13 23:57:26

Really bad here. Can feel drafts in places we do not normally have them and the noise is quite incredible. Scary if it is going to be even worse in a couple of hours.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Mon 23-Dec-13 23:59:13

Yoni, not until the early hours. Worst between midnight and 3am.

Darkesteyes Tue 24-Dec-13 00:06:49

Hi Kitten Sorry for moaning on here. I have a DH with disabilities so its a bit worrying and sounding off on here means i dont bother him with it.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 00:09:09

don't apologise darkest - it is scary and if you cant vent here where can you vent?

LadyCelia Tue 24-Dec-13 00:10:28

Gwen - Ha ha, he's probably met DH struggling to get home, there's quite a few Arsenal & Chelsea fans stuck at Surbiton thanks to the usual lack of information from SW trains, all trains out of Surbiton going south just cancelled (after the last bus left obviously), so apparently there is a bun fight for taxis outside according to DH.

LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 00:10:30

At the risk of jinxing it, it seems to be calming here a smidgeon. We don't have any streetlights here so I can't see anything at all, but I can hear something metallic clanking around outside. Power is still on.

Sorry to hear you are having dramas too Kitten. sad

pigleychez Tue 24-Dec-13 00:13:52

Very strong winds here in Kent now. fence panels are being lifted out if the coconcrete posts and Dh has been out retrieving garden furniture. It's really picked up out there's lately!

Very concerned about the trees in our bit of woods at the end if the garden. Looks like we may have some large branches down already. Thankfully they are far enough away from the house if they did come down. Only moved here 2 weeks ago so first storm experience here.

far too noisy and worried to sleep!

Darkesteyes Tue 24-Dec-13 00:14:01

Whereabouts are you Flump Dont be too specific if you dont want to be.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 00:15:41

s'ok ladyflumpalot, wasnt fun but hopefully I can just chill with a drink now and then catch a bit of sleep when it calms.

Darkesteyes Tue 24-Dec-13 00:17:36

Sorry to hear you are having a stressful time with it too Kitten.

oldsilver Tue 24-Dec-13 00:18:04

I was just thinking it was calming a bit - which is good cause the rain in the last 1/2 hour was unbelievable. It is now raining inside what used to be a downstairs bathroom - single storey but it's part of the building not an extra add-on, we lovingly refer to as our conservatory. The rain and wind has been exceptional though.

LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 00:18:40

Ahhh I don't mind being specific, I've enough info on my profile to out me anyway! grin
I'm in North Dorset, just a few miles from Shaftesbury.

LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 00:19:47

DS is terrified. DH is in with him explaining that it's all ok, the wind is just tidying the leaves up! smile

Darkesteyes Tue 24-Dec-13 00:19:55

Oh quite a way from me North Essex.

LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 00:21:48

I think it's tracking East so will clear here first? Is that right Kitten?

Ruprekt Tue 24-Dec-13 00:26:35

I am in Berkshire and it is blowing a helluva gale here! Fence has blown down, windows are rattling....has been like this for hours. At least boys are asleep.....confusedconfusedconfusedconfused

BlackeyedShepherdswatchsheep Tue 24-Dec-13 00:29:40

w midds. windy and rainy here. we are not in the worst of it though.

gloria, you seem to in the small green bit tomorrow.

MaryzBoychildCheeszuzCrizpz Tue 24-Dec-13 00:31:47

It's awful here (Dublin), and ds1 is out in it. I wish he would come home.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 00:34:47

Yes Lady, which means we have a while of it yet.

I know I love weather, but maybe not this storm.

Lights are still flickering here, wind is roaring around the houses. I won't be able to sleep. It goes very quiet and then suddenly starts again.

Leak in roof which was supposed to be sorted is merrily leaking again.

Ruprekt Tue 24-Dec-13 00:46:07


LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 00:48:45

Huh, It's all stopped...

ExcuseTypos Tue 24-Dec-13 00:50:35

We've got a flood going on in the conservatory because of all the rainsad

Luckily the conservatory is about 2inches lower than the kitchen. We just keep sweeping all the water out, DH seems to think its because the water table is so high as it seems ot be coming through the floor.

Does anyone know how long it takes for the water table to eventually go down. I'm so worried its just going to go on all night long and all day tomorrow!!

superbaghag Tue 24-Dec-13 00:50:59

all quiet here now too (somerset). Thought we were in for some major structural damage here earlier. Will be up as soon as it's light to check the outside

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 00:51:00

I hope that means that its going to clear us in a while. Too tired to analyse. It might be a bit of a pause for you as it will stay gusty after he cold font, but maybe in fits and starts.

I hope you all get some sleep. And I hope I get some too grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 00:51:48

Excuse, it depends on where you are. Hopefully not around hills.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 00:52:16

g'night. see you in the am.

Belize Tue 24-Dec-13 00:55:55

Goodnight Kitten, hope you sleep well smile.

I'm staying in Northamptonshire with friends and the wind and rain is extraordinary, lights keep dipping.

I love big weather but worry about everyone who is in a less than safe place.

mummylin Tue 24-Dec-13 01:02:53

We also have got water coming into our conservatory ! Dh thinks wind driving rain under the flashing or something like that. Coming in over two sets of double doors leading from the lounge, got towels all olong the floor. Also had text from my niece , they have water coming into their kitchen .

HerdyTheRedNosedHerdwick Tue 24-Dec-13 01:03:28

I hope you're all ok. Things are fine here but I'm in Cheshire.
I have a friend in Brittany who I haven't heard from today, which is unusual, I know it's bad there too.

Ruprekt you're on Channel 5 tomorrow afternoon ;)

Belize I'm in Northants too. Looking at the rain radar map we should be right under the worst of it in about 15 minutes.

I can't decide if I would be more use staying up to check everything is OK or if I should go to bed - and if I go to bed should I get into my own bed or jump in with DS(6) who is fast asleep and untroubled by wind or rain and more likely to be disturbed by his great lump of a mother clinging to him through the night. Plus the blimmin Christmas wreath keeps knocking on the front door. <wimp>

Belize Tue 24-Dec-13 01:20:25

TheWoolly, you made me laugh!

I'm staying up as find it quite exciting although worrying too as to what is going on that we can't see...

Awful that two people have died tonight already and they are just the ones we know about sad.

Belize Tue 24-Dec-13 01:21:03

Which map are you watching Woolly?

This one - I just zoomed in to see a more local view. It is bloody throwing it down now.

FunnyFestiveTableRunner Tue 24-Dec-13 01:31:32

Wooly I would definitely take the wreath off the door it will drive you mad overnight!

Belize Tue 24-Dec-13 01:34:25

Yes extremely windy. Can't believe that the gusts are only 35mph, god only knows what gusts of 80-90 mph must feel like shock!

Feels slightly less nutty than 10 mins ago but only marginally..

Can't believe I missed this whole giant storm thing, not seem news or weather. Just woken up and windows are shaking here in London.

So obviously the first thing I did was come on MN to find out what the hell was going on! Storm! Bloody amber warnings!

Belize Tue 24-Dec-13 01:37:40

Ah yes there were many warnings grin!

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 24-Dec-13 01:40:46

I can't sleep with this racket. I am bricking it now, because we're booked on a flight from Stansted at 4pm. Will it go? Will I feel like we're about to crash and die?

Crikey, South London here and it has been WILD for hours now. Just had to go and retrieve my metal dustbin from halfway up the road as it was making an almighty racket as it made a bid for freedom. I think next door have lost the low fence from their front garden, and earlier my closed front door blew itself open!

DP moved out last weekend and had just about got my head around Christmas being weird and different, but I'm bloody terrified being here by myself in this.

DazR Tue 24-Dec-13 02:08:13

You are not alone mackerel we are with you! West Sussex taking a hammering too......

Aww thanks Daz. It does seem to be calming down now actually. I just want to sleep!

ChubbyKitty Tue 24-Dec-13 02:25:05

My lights have been flickering a few times tonight. Doesn't normally get us this bad so this doesn't look good. Getting phones charged as we speak just in case confused

Oooohhhh DH up in town and just me and DCs at home. Wondering whether to get matches and candles from downstairs just in case.

Think we have lightening here. Or is new Paco Rabane advert ??

DameDeepRedBetty Tue 24-Dec-13 03:02:29

Have been woken by the wind again, it had died down but then started again. Some more of the house fell off this afternoon sad.

Just to say Kitten you were spot on, at least I was able to rejig plans to avoid being out and about much today.

MiniMonty Tue 24-Dec-13 03:25:57

Get a kite - you live once.

South East here & the wind has been will for hours, can hear howling of the wind outside and keep waking up!
This sounds a lot worse than the storm last month.

DameDeepRedBetty Tue 24-Dec-13 04:07:18

Wind has died down now (Wilts) but still raining. Might try going back to bed.

Fingers crossed for everyone still in the storm.

LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 05:24:11

Up feeding DD and it is completely still out there. The silence is really deep - It's always quiet here, but not normally this quiet.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:24:34

Morning all. It suddenly died down here too a while ago. Dunno how much use I'll be to you all today as a conspiracy of things has led to very little sleep and I have a very busy day. Typing one fingered under the covers so dh can sleep.

I really feel for those of you in the NW with an awful 24 hours to come.

piratecat Tue 24-Dec-13 06:26:57


very quiet. i can hear the birds talking about itsmile

hope everyone is ok.

piratecat Tue 24-Dec-13 06:28:40

morning oybbk

you've helped everyone. did you have alot of damage in the storm?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:29:35

Must be grim in NI right now. The very worst will be in NW and n Scotland about midnight tonight. Gusting 90mph I should think. Calming down by late am tomorrow.

piratecat Tue 24-Dec-13 06:31:29

blimey. so it's working its way north or is this another big lot.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:31:54

I'm pretty sure our house is ok, I'm not sure about my other concerns (sorry to be cryptic) I'll check when it's light. How about you?

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:34:01

The south suffered from a frontal wave and a squeeze in isobars around the warm front too part of the very nasty storm that is starting to hit up north. It's a very big, nasty storm.

piratecat Tue 24-Dec-13 06:37:03

hope you are ok on the cryptic bit.

all is well here. though my ex may not make it down to see dd as lots of flooding and trees down in his area.

yet could have cleared by this morning.

do you think the storm last night was worse than the one we had a few weeks ago? x

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:38:19

Still some question marks over Friday. GFS develops the storm most taking severe gales over much of Scotland and northern England. ECMWF and UKMO thankfully seem to be less developmental with lesser gales.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:39:59

I do think it was, the st Jude's storm seemed short and sharp in comparison. Need to check the data though. Certainly this one has hugely more flooding associated with it.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:44:20

Met office was spot on in my location. 70mph, a little down on the last storm, but I wasn't in the firing line for the worst.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:49:27

Looks like the SE coast scrapped into the 70s too. Need to check that but perhaps overall gust speed wasn't quite so high as last time.

piratecat Tue 24-Dec-13 06:49:39

is that on the main met site.

i am keeping fingers crossed for Friday morning for flights into exeter from France.

the airport was open yesterday too.

piratecat Tue 24-Dec-13 06:51:11

what did it give for south Devon. very southsmile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:51:58

It is. On the weather page scroll down to the bottom. On the rhs there is a link 'surface observations'

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 06:54:26

74mph at Plymouth is the nearest I could spot at 11pm.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 07:22:40

If I wasnt a polite person this would be a sweary post. New stupid low pressure threatens the south and east in the early hours of Monday. For pities sake!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 07:25:13

scroll to 8am on the satellite imagery. It isnt by any definition a hurricane but with a bit of imagination it rather looks like one with almost an eye at the centre.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 07:31:53

Its going to be a difficult commute with main train services not resuming til 10am while they clear the tracks.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 07:33:53

many not main.

HesterShaw Tue 24-Dec-13 07:34:10

Mumsnetters, the 303 is blocked. Avoid! Motorway seems like a good idea....

LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 07:40:57

Hester - wheraabouts?

JKSLtd Tue 24-Dec-13 08:05:04

Last night certainly sounded worse than st Jude for me in essex.

Waiting for the day to properly start to see if parents & brother can manage their journeys today.

Think getting from heathrow to essex may be a challenge!

JKSLtd Tue 24-Dec-13 08:05:10

Last night certainly sounded worse than st Jude for me in essex.

Waiting for the day to properly start to see if parents & brother can manage their journeys today.

Think getting from heathrow to essex may be a challenge!

runnervt Tue 24-Dec-13 08:05:46

kitten could I have some advice please. My in laws were supposed to be coming to us in central belt Scotland for Christmas. They live in Essex. They cancelled yesterday because they didn't want to drive in the bad weather and couldn't leave earlier than today. I'm considering suggesting that we go there for new year and was just wondering if there's likely to be enough if a break in these storms for us to get there and back ok.

runnervt Tue 24-Dec-13 08:07:14

Meant to add thank you! fsmile

ToffeeOwnsTheSausage Tue 24-Dec-13 08:12:49

Someone put their bin out last night so our road is covered in rubbish now.

I have just been in the garden and two fence panels are down and smashed. Will have no chance of keeping the cats from visiting the easy to access garden and I doubt the neighbours will be happy about that.

HesterShaw Tue 24-Dec-13 08:32:42

Flumpalot, several places in Wiltshire. Lorries across road, crashes, trees blown down.

ethelb Tue 24-Dec-13 08:40:51

Our nice new fence got flattened last night! Plus no sleep ahead of a potentially awful day of travelling! shock

Perihelion Tue 24-Dec-13 08:50:44

Yellow snow warning now for almost all of Scotland today, along with the wind warnings.

coffeeinbed Tue 24-Dec-13 08:56:44

Yellow snow doesn't sound too good!
Bloody dogs!

GloriaSmud Tue 24-Dec-13 08:57:59

I posted about the Guardian's live blog yesterday but thought it might be worthwhile posting the link again as it seems to be more up to date and have more information than the BBC one. Looks like there are major problems at Gatwick at the moment as they've had a power failure in the north terminal.

Hope everyone's OK and that those facing the storm in the north of the UK keep safe.

HerdyTheRedNosedHerdwick Tue 24-Dec-13 09:15:21

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Friday morning, certainly not relishing the drive from Cheshire to Cumbria.

Perihelion Tue 24-Dec-13 10:07:30

Don't eat yellow snow! grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 10:21:53

runner, potentially yes. Though it might change! At the moment Sunday looks ok, as does New Years day and the 2nd. Some of the other storms might not be as horrid as this one and friday, but hard to tell at this point.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 10:22:10

stupid page 2. grrr.

MissMarplesBloomers Tue 24-Dec-13 10:22:38

Bright & sunny here in Lincolnshireland ...most bizarre given the rest of the country.

Cold & windy though so won't last I don't suppose. fsad

LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 10:28:13

Ahh it must be East from me then as have travelled it from Mere to Honiton and it's fine, barely a twig or puddle.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 10:56:49

Ok, not forgetting the awfulness that Scotland is going to be going through over the next 24 hours, we still have some more weather coming. 06Z has come out.

Friday - Another rough storm for NI, scotland and perhaps northern England. so sorry guys. will also be pretty galeish along the south coast too I think.

Saturday - the north still suffers from the storm.

Sunday - generally ok but actually there is a tiny bit of a squeeze in isobars down the east coast that I'm looking at.

Monday - a low pressure could bring gales.

run out of brain cells. will try again later!

keepmoving Tue 24-Dec-13 11:07:27

Snowing in Clitheroe! Very excited children, less excited parents wink

Due to travel back to Berkshire on Saturday late morning, is it worth attempting?

I know many have said it before, but THANK YOU merry little kitten thanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanks

kateecass Tue 24-Dec-13 11:08:21

Thanks. We've set off on our Manchester to hants journey. Ok so far but not got to Birmingham yet.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 11:15:33

I think you should be ok kate.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 11:16:48

keepmoving you are really very welcome smile

setting off late morning is a good idea. Just take care for any fallen tree/flooding/landslip issues

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 24-Dec-13 11:18:21

Not loving these forecasts. Due to be flying to Belfast this afternoon and back on Friday afternoon. Going to be some scary flights I think, assuming we even get to go sad

PseudoSanta Tue 24-Dec-13 11:30:43

Still worrying about our flight to belfast first thing Saturday sad

FunnyFestiveTableRunner Tue 24-Dec-13 11:37:28

Blowy here but nothing out of the ordinary yet. We get gales here so often that they seem normal. It also means that anything in the garden has already survived all winter so will probably be okay unless we get an actual tornado. Won't rule it out wink

CointreauVersial Tue 24-Dec-13 11:38:55

Wind here last night (Surrey) seemed way worse than the "storm" a few weeks back. Really howling around the house. Our fence is down, and it ripped a massive heavy wooden gate off the side of the house. angry

More importantly, we are due to get the Holyhead to Dublin ferry on Friday. I am fearing the worst. <stocks up on sickbags>

MillyChristmas Tue 24-Dec-13 11:42:56

It's snowing here in the mountains of North Wales but only a little grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 11:46:23

You might get some tomorrow Milly.

CV - I hope it goes for you ok.

Gatwick north terminal is horrific. Check today before you set off there.

runnervt Tue 24-Dec-13 11:49:53

kitten thank you for the info. Still undecided!

MillyChristmas Tue 24-Dec-13 11:52:57

Oooo do you think so.....grin grin grin grin grin grin A white Christmas......magical.

BoJolly Tue 24-Dec-13 12:12:20

DH is in the back garden, wrapping fairy lights around trees & bushes that are swaying in the wind.

Ever the optimist fgrin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 12:31:37

updated warnings for friday interesting that the wind warnings are for the west.
Worried about the rain down here.

youarewinning Tue 24-Dec-13 12:53:52

Well the re that smashed into the front of the house was less than a mile from here. Happened just after I was driving home alone an adjacent road worried would the state of the trees.

Friend called me yesterday stuck in traffic worried about trees. Passed that way today and she saw one down across the road where she was stuck.

Really makes you thankful.

Perihelion Tue 24-Dec-13 13:21:46

No warnings for Edinburgh for Friday smile
Am getting pissed of with the pishness of the Met Office warning map now. Think the need to be able to come up with a clearer way of representing the areas and the hazards combined, on the map.

Darkesteyes Tue 24-Dec-13 14:17:25

Hi everyone Sorry to see that there are many of you still going through it Calmer in North Essex now. Some rain. Odd bit of wind but nothing like last night.
Thanks for all your info Kitten. thanks cake

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 14:24:44

You are really welcome smile

TheGhostOfPortoPast Tue 24-Dec-13 15:21:54

All calm in Deal now. We have been shopping. I have a friend near Gatwick who is totally flooded, and friends with no power still in East Kent. One friend's mum in Minnis Bay had a lucky escape when the garage got in the way of a 40 foot tree falling on to the house.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 15:30:30

Its going to be a very stressful Christmas for some isnt it sad

It was really windy and wet here last night, but our area seems to have got off lightly .

It's been bright and chilly today, but the clouds are starting to roll in and they have a snowy look to them - not that I expect it here, but I think SIL in Glossop may wake up to some snow in the morning.

JKSLtd Tue 24-Dec-13 15:48:08

Parents & brother nearly here - they decided to pick him up at the airport in the end.

No more family travelling until Saturday, phew.

A side wall on our road blew down overnight, bricks everywhere & looks terrible, but minor in the scheme of things I suppose.
Plus some huge firs down at the park - took the kids for a runaround earlier.

digerd Tue 24-Dec-13 17:13:44

Haven't checked my back garden yet as rained again during the day.
3pm dog walk was definitely cooler wind. 6 degrees atm.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 17:55:39

I just notice my temp gauge: 5c here. That's nice, it means we wont boil our heads off when i light the woodburner like we did last night. I was so convinced we'd be without power like the last storm that I had it lit really early and we all roasted sat in t-shirts!

digerd Tue 24-Dec-13 18:11:21

We are forecast to have 2 degrees in the night for the next 3 days and +5-6 max in the day.

CointreauVersial Tue 24-Dec-13 19:34:58

Crap. The severe weather warning for Friday is slap bang across the Irish Sea.

If the ferries are running we shall all be looking like this: envy

SpottyChristmasCakes Tue 24-Dec-13 19:54:28

Had to abandon my car ten miles away so I could get home at lunch time. Road covered in water so deep even the 4x4s were flooding luckily my dad rescued me in his truck but we only just made it. All roads out of where I work were the same. It was horrendous and to top it off our power has only just come back on after almost 24 hours. All fridge freezer food has to be thrown. Been an awful 24 hours!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 20:14:43

Welcome back spotty. I'm sorry that you had it so rough. I glad that you got back safely and you have power tonight. I hope that you can enjoy the rest of Christmas.

SpottyChristmasCakes Tue 24-Dec-13 20:26:22

Thank you smile it's bloody raining again hmm

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 20:30:30

It is here too sad it really needs to stop now.

SpottyChristmasCakes Tue 24-Dec-13 20:38:11

It's still running south from billingshurst/broadbridge Heath way so even without the extra rain there's more to come. It was pretty scary coming home sad I feel so sorry for all the people near me who still don't have power I don't think there's much chance of it coming back for tomorrow. My mums still off sad

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 20:40:59

I think it must have been pretty shocking today. Be gentle with yourself. Can your mum get to you?

SpottyChristmasCakes Tue 24-Dec-13 20:45:38

Nope she lives the other side of the river, I mean road, oh no river wink fx they get it back it's so shit. I'm off to my dad's tomorrow anyway. I can't speak to her though with no power/phone/mobile! At least they're safe smile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 20:52:26

Safe is the number one important thing smile

oricella Tue 24-Dec-13 21:21:55

Has the storm been heading north slower than expected? It's been dire all day, but wind really picking up now. Thought Christmas day wouldn't be too bad, but
looking like another day of storm and rain.

Darkesteyes Tue 24-Dec-13 21:46:43

On the uk power fb and twitter feeds ppl are starting to get pretty irate now and i cant really blame them

Darkesteyes Tue 24-Dec-13 21:49:12

spotty im so sorry to hear about your situ and the fact that you have lost all your freezer food.

kaumana Tue 24-Dec-13 21:50:29

Wind has started to pick up here in Edinburgh in the past hour.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 22:11:31

Oricella it's a west-east transverse of the main storm centre and yes it is slower than was forecast and will continue to be a problem for a while tomorrow.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 24-Dec-13 23:18:33

Fridays storm seems a little further south again bringing more of the UK into the firing line I'm afraid.

Might not to be able to forecast for the next couple of days as I'll be with family. So just in case, happy Christmas to you all.

oricella Tue 24-Dec-13 23:21:56

thanks kitten and happy Christmas!

LadyFlumpalot Tue 24-Dec-13 23:33:36

A303 flooded out at lunchtime today. Caught people off guard as the weather has been beautiful here. It's the Yeovilton to Ilminster stretch and the diversion is very badly marked. Just to give you all a heads up.

Merry Xmas one and all!

Cindy34 Tue 24-Dec-13 23:37:26

Kitten, Have a great Christmas. Thanks for the weather updates.

Darkesteyes Tue 24-Dec-13 23:43:48

Have a grt Chrimbo Kitten cake

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 25-Dec-13 09:21:07

You are really welcome. Just going to do a very quick look....

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 25-Dec-13 09:26:35

Ok, Fridays system actually comes in late Thursday night into NI, so a little earlier. Unfortunately it looks a little further south too, bringing northern England and perhaps the north midlands into the main firing line on Friday. Gales for most, perhaps severe there but not as severe as Mondays/yesterday's storm (which is still affecting northern Scotland.)
Unfortunately there will be a lot of heavy rain associated with this storm, affecting the north and west but also those areas already flooded. The good news is is that the heavy rain isn't as prolonged.

Safe travelling everyone. I should be able to update tomorrow in the afternoon/evening sometime.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 25-Dec-13 10:49:33

hail and thunder where I am!

Sunny clear skies here - Mankycat has ventured out, though I think he will be back very soon to curl up on the radiator cover.

digerd Wed 25-Dec-13 11:59:38

Been sunny all day so far, which makes me worry about DD driving when sun is in her eyes as she forgot her sunglasses.
Tomorrow will be worse as she will be driving home southwards.

MillyChristmas Wed 25-Dec-13 12:05:35

North Wales very calm snow though sad smile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 26-Dec-13 07:37:07

That's a shame Milly. I guess the showers didnt get going in your area.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 26-Dec-13 07:39:44

Still looking like wind wise the storm will hit Ireland/NI and northern midlands up. Some rather heavy rain in the south.

digerd Thu 26-Dec-13 07:51:43

Oh no, not more rain in the south. Very quiet and still atm - but dismal.

DameDeepRedBetty Thu 26-Dec-13 08:50:52

NE Wilts very quiet, quite misty, but obviously blue sky not far away, hopefully will break through soon.

magimedi Thu 26-Dec-13 09:08:13

Frosty but wall to wall blue sky here in East Sussex.

Time for a walk!

oricella Thu 26-Dec-13 09:36:09

The sun has just come up and actually shining; can't remember when that last happened!