Weather warnings for the north.

(239 Posts)
OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 03-Dec-13 20:00:47

here primarily for gales/severe gales (gusts up to 80mph) but also for snow on thurs and friday. In parts of Scotland, esp the NE the combination could lead too blizzard conditions and severe wind chill. Take care.

siblingrivalry Tue 03-Dec-13 20:04:35

Thanks for the update OYMLK.

I am TERRIFIED of the wind and keeping checking and rechecking potential wind speeds.
I am in Durham -it's going to be bad, isn't it? sad

Yama Tue 03-Dec-13 20:04:38

Thursday looks awful for most of the UK.

I detest the wind. sad

ipswichwitch Tue 03-Dec-13 20:09:05

Can't get the link to work properly. siblingrivalry, I'm just outside Durham - it's always bad here isn't it!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 03-Dec-13 20:12:44

Sibling its not going to be fun I'm afraid.

Awful is relative. It's certainly going to be yucky, cold with rain, especially in parts of northern England and the midlands and gales right down to the south, gusting to 40-50mph. It's more Scotland and the very north of England where the conditions become more risky. Fortunately I don't think the very high winds will be associated with the snow, they come earlier I think but they look to remain high through out the period indicated by the met office warnings

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 03-Dec-13 20:14:28

Don't know what the link isn't working for you Ipswichwitch. Google met office warnings and you'll end up on the right page.

ClaimedByMe Tue 03-Dec-13 20:16:41

I only just got my tv aerial reattached yesterday not looking forward more winds sad

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Tue 03-Dec-13 20:17:39

That's a poo claimed.

siblingrivalry Tue 03-Dec-13 20:18:09

Ipswich, I often feel like we have our own micro-climate here!

Thanks OYMLK. In your opinion (which I value -always read your threads) what kind of wind speeds are we looking at in my neck of the woods?

Thanks for taking the time to post on here-it really is appreciated.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 04-Dec-13 08:31:43

You are welcome sibling smile. I think you'll be looking at winds speeds peaking at around 60-70mph, unfortunately during rush hour.

I think that top speeds further north might reach 80mph, higher on exposed mountain tops of course!!

Some very heavy rain too, turning to snow in places as the cold front goes through. Looks like that will be about midday in your area though the main snow risk is for NE Scotland. Always a bit tricky to forecast though, so don't rule out surprise snow fall.

Then the cold front keeps travelling further south and its possible we might have a nice squall line develop, which would liven things up after several days of no weather down here.

Northumberland here (nn is pretty obvious I guess) - oh JOY! Wonder if this means I can persuade DS to wear a coat for school? smile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 04-Dec-13 08:39:05

Good luck with that!

Perihelion Wed 04-Dec-13 08:41:56

We too have had no real weather for the last few days grin. Doesn't look like snow either for Edinburgh, just gusts up to 70mph, Which really is just a bit blowy compared to previous winter storms wink

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 04-Dec-13 08:48:40

Lol!! You lot are built for it up there (not suggesting you are all stout or anything! But your roofs don't shed tiles like confetti and your trees are sturdier)

HesterShaw Wed 04-Dec-13 10:45:17

Good luck, Northerners and Scots.

Hopefully the wind plus spring tide thing won't be too much of a problem.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 04-Dec-13 11:53:32

estofex have issued a level 2 warning for parts of scotlamd, mostly for wind gusts but also for the possibility of tornadoes.

oricella Wed 04-Dec-13 11:54:56

Warnings just changed to amber for wind for tomorrow.. o joy!

Love the headline in the Stornoway paper: Snow to brighten up darkest days - now that's putting a positive spin on things!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Wed 04-Dec-13 11:57:24

Worth noting the flooding risk for the east as well as the severe winds. What a horrid day its going to be for some of you sad

siblingrivalry Wed 04-Dec-13 12:46:46

Thank you for the update. I am a real wuss and so be having a sleepless night, I think. Take care everyone.

GloriaSmud Wed 04-Dec-13 13:02:43

I think the warning areas have got a bit bigger as we weren't under any warnings before and now we're under a yellow one for high winds. Netweather have gone for a red alert for some areas.

Perihelion Wed 04-Dec-13 16:05:35

Will report on the waves and the flappiness of the mutts ears on my dog walk tomorrow.

ClaimedByMe Wed 04-Dec-13 16:20:47

Lol Perihelion my dogs teats flap in the wind she also refuses to poop in inclement weather so it will be a fun few days for us!

We are hardy here in Scotland on the east coast quivers

HesterShaw Wed 04-Dec-13 18:31:10

mine do that

GloriaSmud Wed 04-Dec-13 20:55:49

Lol ~ perhaps there should be a scale that measures the flappiness of dogs ears in winds, some suggestions here for how it could be measured!

Yama Wed 04-Dec-13 21:22:27

Bloody hell - no rain services in my area until 4pm tomorrow. West Coast of Scotland.

GloriaSmud Wed 04-Dec-13 22:21:30

Some information about how train services in Scotland will be affected here and road bridges here There's also a section about the weather here.

Yama Wed 04-Dec-13 22:35:23

Oh yes, I meant train. That can't have been Freudian, can it?

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 00:51:02

Oh no, I've now got a really strange image in my head of bits of Hester flapping in the wind grin
Starting to get breezy here with wee teasing 38mph gusts.

justmuddlingalong Thu 05-Dec-13 01:04:17

Can hear the wind whistling round the house here in Fife already. No snow sad or rain yet though.

We're due to drive from SE to Edinburgh tomorrow. Should we travel west coast instead of east you think? Not looking forward to drive anyway, never mind wind and rain too!

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 01:47:52

40mph gusts and pishing down now in Edinburgh.
Littlemiss think the worst of the wind is past by the afternoon in Scotland, but there's wind warnings further south. Would check the weather and travel sites in the morning and maybe delay your journey. The M6 in northern England/Scotland is pretty high and exposed, so not really a better alternative, especially if any snow comes further south than expected.

oricella Thu 05-Dec-13 05:27:18

pretty awful in the highlands right now sad wish I could sleep

leavesalmondoutofit Thu 05-Dec-13 05:45:38

I am up because of the wind too. North of Glasgow.

NoRumoursAtTheInn Thu 05-Dec-13 06:09:06

Another one in the Highlands here and the weather is awful. Thunder storm and its blowing a gale sad

Hohohowhatfuckeryitis Thu 05-Dec-13 06:19:44

Durham. Is howling out there. I really don't want to get up or walk to work.

Felix90 Thu 05-Dec-13 06:21:39

I'm down in Leeds and the wind is crazy here do can't imagine how bad it is further north!

Indith Thu 05-Dec-13 06:42:55

Durham area, can hear it howling outside.

dingdongduckyfuzz Thu 05-Dec-13 06:45:07

South durham, been howling for about 4 hours now, house is shaking!

Gracelo Thu 05-Dec-13 06:45:09

Northern Argyll, right at the coast, it's wild out there.
The entire house is creaking and the lights have been flickering. I hope the power won't go down. The worst should be over for us around 8am.

Fife is so bad that my bedroom window has caught, buckled and will not close hmm
Looking now for a locksmith to come out and repair it.
Every time a new gust comes I'm terrified it will bring the whole thing crashing down. Been up since 4am hmm

Thanks perihelion
Really not looking forward to it, especially with a baby in car. Your right about m6 being high and very exposed to wind, I've also driven up before when A1 has been closed due to flooding so I'll just have to hope for best later on!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 07:09:49

Morning all. Just caught up with some of it on radio 4. Nasty. Stay safe.

Rather worried about the coastal flooding expected down the east coast. Environment agency reported as saying its expected to be the worst in 30 years.

Littlemiss , worst of the wind will be over today.

DeathByLaundry Thu 05-Dec-13 07:10:40

Got woken by the trampoline having a party n the garden. Oh and a huge thunderstorm. DH and I looked the part at 6am in dressing gowns and wellies trying to wedge the poor bent trampoline somewhere safe!

Stay safe folks.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 07:13:01

Oh I see tomorrow is now today grin. I think the west coast will be safer later on than the east coast but let me check.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 07:22:28

Number one rule is always tether your trampoline or at least turn it upside down before high winds! poor trampoline.

DeathByLaundry Thu 05-Dec-13 07:24:48

I know - usually it gets dismantled to be honest, weather's been so fine it's been getting used most days though. It will be going away pronto (what's left of it!).

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 07:25:27

actually, for practical purposes, wind wise it makes no difference which way you drive up north after the next hour or so. There will be a lot of travel disruption though.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 07:44:13

Storm isnt behaving as predicted. We should be having strong winds/gales across england, down to the south coast too by now, but they are arent happening yet. cold front must be slower than expected, I don't know why, but the winds are also higher than forecast further north.

Unfortunately I have to go to work this morning.

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 07:54:54

Storm exactly as reported on BBC hit the Central Belt of Scotland for the morning rush hour. Was woken just after 7am by the wind. Latest gust strenght from Met Office is 59mph for Edinburgh, but I think that's increased a wee bit already. Lights are occasionally flickering, which is unusual for here too.
Littlemiss can you travel tomorrow?
And to continue using dogs as forecasting tools, there's been a load of rain overnight, as their bowls were nearly full of water smile

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 07:58:36

That bit is correct, but the widerspread effects are not so far and it seems a little stronger than forecast.
Down here I should be experiencing gusts of 30mph. I have almost dead calm.

justmuddlingalong Thu 05-Dec-13 07:59:31

106 mph gust recorded in Stirlingshire! The wind has gotten worse here in Fife the last half hour or so. It's been bad all night but now it's getting scary.

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 08:00:05

Gusts of 80mph+ recorded from Forth Bridge since 6am.

42notTrendy Thu 05-Dec-13 08:04:40

Thank you for doing this oybbk. It's my first port of call in the mornings to see what you have updated!
Gusty here in Nottingham.

DM in Renfrewshire reports very high winds, she is surprised the Erskine Bridge has not yet been closed.

There have been lorries overturned on the M74 and the A83.

justmuddlingalong Thu 05-Dec-13 08:09:03

Teenagers passed by my window 5 mins ago wearing hoodies. All for the sake of looking cool. The rain is torrential and it's soooo windy. They should be wrapped up in wellies and duffel coats! grin

BanjoPlayingTiger Thu 05-Dec-13 08:12:17

Its not nice out there in Durham. I've been awake since 4.30 with the noise of it.
I think I will mostly be staying in today.

My bins were over this morning, recycling everywhere, and DS has just gone to school, I was going to keep him home as its so bad but schools are open.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 08:17:21

you are welcome smile

I'm off to work but will catch up with everyone at lunchtime.

Oreocrumbs Thu 05-Dec-13 08:24:39

I can't get any of the animals out for a wee Here! Durham, on the coast.

Sitting looking out at the garden and I don't think my fence will last the day.

I did however have a great idea this morning. I thought I will walk the dogs at the beach, the cliffs will give me some protection from the wind.

Yes it will, but the sea surge will drown me. Honestly my last brain cell gave up from loneliness!

So I'm now going to attempt a nursery run and dog walk. I don't think I will be long!!

RubySparks Thu 05-Dec-13 08:24:42

20000 without power in the highlands and that is expected to rise. We are south of Edinburgh and have high winds and flickering power at the moment. Lots of train services suspended and advice not to travel unless essential.

unlucky83 Thu 05-Dec-13 08:32:38

Tay road bridge closed has been since 7am (mean winds 80+ mph)...and I think they are higher? It's windier here than it has been in a while (and bridge was closed earlier in the year)
DD1 has gone off on the school bus - double decker, open fields , 11 miles -but the schools are open and bus running...tiny bit worried...
I know we are used to it! - but I didn't even know this was forecast - unlike the blanket storm coverage for England a month or so ago...

Another durhamer here.
Loads of trains cancelled. A19 overturned lorries

justmuddlingalong Thu 05-Dec-13 08:38:29

The Forth Road Bridge is now closed completely.

unlucky83 Thu 05-Dec-13 08:40:06

Some school buses now cancelled - because not using double deckers ...but DD1 is already on one!

littleredsquirrel Thu 05-Dec-13 08:42:35

Extremely windy here in Nottinghamshire. Our gate is broken and is slamming every couple of seconds.

RubySparks Thu 05-Dec-13 08:43:13

Glasgow Central Station evacuated due to danger of falling glass.

Forth Bridge completely closed

ClaimedByMe Thu 05-Dec-13 08:48:09

Wheelie bins and branches on the loose here in Dundee, just away to leave for the school and dog walk sad

RubySparks Thu 05-Dec-13 09:06:01

ALL trains cancelled in Scotland and our power is cutting out every few minutes... So no mumsnetting for me if it stays off!

Very very windy in the Irish Sea area. We are used to the wind here but it does seem to be stronger than forecast. We were forecasted F8 to F9 gusts but I spent a large part of the night listening to the house creak which it only does if we have a F10.

lyndie Thu 05-Dec-13 09:11:49

That was the most awful walk to school I've ever done. I can't believe the schools were open as normal, it really wasn't safe to go anywhere!

Gatekeeper Thu 05-Dec-13 09:14:21

SW Durham and horrendous here; recyling bins overturned everywhere and a few aeriels off. Walking back from the bus stop after dropping ds off I was facing it al the way back and could hardly catch my breath!

Not moving from fireside today and am baking lots. Corned beef pie and chips for tea and steamed syrup pudden with custard- lots of bulk to act as ballast grin

Ive stacked my bins against a wall in the hope the wind wont catch them (again) my power keeps flickering on/off too - I think/hope the worst hs passed <wimp>

Happiestinwellybobs Thu 05-Dec-13 09:20:12

Horrendous in Lancashire. I hate the windsad Reports of trees down local to us.

Going to have to go out as run out of essentials. Can also report Happiestdog's extreme ear flappiness and reluctance to go out for a wee grin

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 09:25:33

Nothing landing at Edinburgh airport.
Temp has dropped a couple of degrees in the last 1/2 hour, and lost a slate off my roof ( so much for sturdy Scottish roofs OYBBK grin )

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 09:33:15

Tell a lie, just watched a plane going into land, but really slowly.......

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 09:36:29

82mph gust recorded in Edinburgh and the wind's now WNW. Think this is the peak.

TheGirlFromIpanema Thu 05-Dec-13 09:39:22

No planes landing at Leeds at all this morning, I assume they've all gone somewhere less windy.

Wineandchoccy Thu 05-Dec-13 09:41:26

Awful in East Lancashire, wind howling down the chimney and tree opposite bending over in the wind. DH just been to the shop and said it was hard to get his breath.

I've got to see a customer in Trafford later but don't think I will be using the barton bridge as it's windy at the best of times.

Stay safe and warm everyone fsmile

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 09:46:36

Rain showing up here ~ I think the organised line of rain moving south is called a 'squall line.' We had one go through a week or two back, the wind got up suddenly, rain was torrential and the temperature dropped by something like 3C in 20 minutes.

Here in Leicester, the wind's got up in the last 90 mins and it's 7C.

BriarcliffBelle Thu 05-Dec-13 09:47:46

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

meditrina Thu 05-Dec-13 09:53:47

I saw on the news, whilst they were reporting all train services in Scotland cancelled, that one line was closed earlier because of a trampoline on the line.

goodasitgets Thu 05-Dec-13 09:53:55

Lancashire here. Have to go on M6/61 later and not looking forward to it

CosyTeaBags Thu 05-Dec-13 09:58:37

I'm in North Wales - very windy here, has been since the small hours. A few branches down on the roads.

I'm supposed to drive to Chester this afternoon - but I don't have to. Shall I cancel?

sewingandcakes Thu 05-Dec-13 10:05:58

Rossendale here, and walking the kids to school was interesting! Very windy and rainy, no damage so far, but I'm staying in until I pick up the kids.

MagicsInTheMakeUp Thu 05-Dec-13 10:10:18

Hello, I live on the east coast and have just had a recorded message on my land line warning us of the bad weather ahead. It said to take action now to prepare for flooding expected tonight. I'm a bit concerned as we Haven't lived here long so not really sure what I should be doing... confused

unlucky83 Thu 05-Dec-13 10:10:29

wanking I have an attractive hmm brick pile - if I know its going to be windy I stick a brick or 2 on top of each of the wheelies...especially if out for collection so more exposed...our binmen will lift brick off, empty and replace if squally - but then maybe they are just nice!

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 10:14:41

Eeeeuuuuuurgh!!!!! Horizontal hail. And it's bloody loud. If this doesn't kill our power supply, then we should be safe (rural-ish co durham)

Fences, bins, greenhouses etc down all over the village, this morning. DH said the A19 towards teeside was littered with debris and reports say the same for the A1M western bypass.

I'd say to anyone thinking of travelling up here, don't.

Fuctifano Thu 05-Dec-13 10:17:52

Very severe conditions in Central Scotland, seriously scary journey to and home from work (was closed - no power) to find my shed in bits in the garden and my neighbour's fence gone. Trees are coming down everywhere and debris all over the roads.

OYMLK and local weather guru have been right yet again.

Now what about this snow tomorrow?

meditrina Thu 05-Dec-13 10:17:55

According to SKY, Scottish police are advising not to go out in high sided vehicles at all, and if already on the road, to pull over until winds drop (lunchtime - ish)

meditrina Thu 05-Dec-13 10:20:21

Oh, fuck. First report of a death, and it's an HGV driver whose vehicle was blown over in West Lothian. sad

(Perhaps that's what led to the high-sides vehicles warning?)

unlucky83 Thu 05-Dec-13 10:22:41

Calmer here now (Tay coast) ...walking DD2 to school one of the boxes holding the traffic lights on the pedestrian crossing was swinging backwards and forwards like a pendulum - looking at it seems as if someone has forgotten to attach it at the bottom! (rest were ok) and one tree in the school grounds has a middle sized branch snapped off and hanging from it -wouldn't imagine the children would be playing out there today anyway
Anyone else notice - bird's nests are amazing - trees bending over sideways earlier but they still have nests in them!

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 10:23:06

Magic check with Environment Agency ( England ) or SEPA ( Scotland ) websites. It's regarding a storm surge in the North Sea, combining with high tide later today. Time depends on where you are. Flood risk if you're costal, and/or at a low level and also near some rivers. Also to be aware that some roads may flood too.I think they are expecting high tide to be up to 1.8m higher than usual. Best advise would be to move inland and to higher ground before hand. Also worth speaking to neighbours about where local to you is known for flooding, although today's storm event is quite rare so more extensive flooding.

It's calmed down a lot now, still cold and wet but not as windy in Edinburgh

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 10:28:43

Tees flyover now closed to high sided vehicles.

Magics - worth checking the environmental agency website. there's a flood preparation page, there. They give lots of updates on Twitter, too, so worth refreshing their page. You don't need a twitter ccount to see their tweets.

StiffGandT Thu 05-Dec-13 10:29:19

Edinburgh here - seems to be calming down now. Winds at more normal strengths and rain now vertical instead of horizontal.

Dds nursery now closed

MagicsInTheMakeUp Thu 05-Dec-13 10:30:58

Perihelion Thanks for the info. I shall get on with that now. Take care everybody!

CosyTeaBags Thu 05-Dec-13 10:32:31

Getting worse here in N Wales. Some really strong gusts. Not much in the way of rain though.

MagicsInTheMakeUp Thu 05-Dec-13 10:33:23

Thanks ouryve that will come in very handy

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 10:38:33

Getting windier here (Leicester) Our top gust so far is 15mph (a mere breeze to what the north of the country is having) and I've heard several wheelie bins go over. Our temperature is going up though ~ 8.5C. fconfused

justmuddlingalong Thu 05-Dec-13 10:39:19

Forth Road Bridge open again (cars only at the moment).

BiscuitsAreMyDownfall Thu 05-Dec-13 10:39:41

Darlington here. Sounds windy here. Don't think I will be going out for a run later.

dingdongduckyfuzz Thu 05-Dec-13 10:40:34

I'm near you biscuits and I've cancelled my run this morning too! Have to go to Hartlepool later...

Gracelo Thu 05-Dec-13 10:46:08

Calming down in Argyll, still windy but nothing that would be considered unusual for around here.
Some trees were done and there is lots of rubbish everywhere but no major damage I could spot.

BiscuitsAreMyDownfall Thu 05-Dec-13 10:48:19

Good luck dingdong

BanjoPlayingTiger Thu 05-Dec-13 10:48:33

I have just caught the trampoline. I am a bit annoyed as DH was supposed to sort it out before he went to work. Still, I have managed to secure it (I hope). I am watching it nervously at the moment.

The back fence has also blown down.

BlackeyedSusan Thu 05-Dec-13 10:49:52

w mids blustery here. i am not looking forward to the squall line going through. it is raining on and off already.

anyone know if the east coast trains from Aberdeen are likely to be running tomorrow (parents supposed to be travelling down south today, all trains out of Scotland cancelled, but tickets valid tomorrow)? Are any bits of the line in danger of flooding etc? If it was Southern Fail, I'd know that there wouldn't be a service for about a week, but maybe East Coast is a bit more robust wink?

RubySparks Thu 05-Dec-13 10:51:08

So had a few problems leaving the house, road in one direction has a corrugated iron barn roof blocking it and in the other lots of smaller branches down and a large flooded area to negotiate!

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 10:51:22

I'll post my Northeast news and travel twitter list, too - very handy

BlackeyedSusan Thu 05-Dec-13 10:51:35

what was worse about the east cost flooding warnings was that they said it may be the worst for 60 years... 1953 was not a good year sad

RubySparks Thu 05-Dec-13 10:52:00

Scotrail are saying the problem is debris on train lines, so lots of fallen trees to clear.

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 10:52:09

Wanking I love your name smile, right off out to walk the dogs.

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 10:54:11

DH is stuck in an office complex with a metal roof. Not enjoying it!

meditrina Thu 05-Dec-13 10:56:15

I don't think people remember how bad it was in 1953 and I really hope it is nowhere near as sever as that.

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 10:58:54

And our power is now starting to flicker. Have put the kettle on and turned the heating up, just in case!

HesterShaw Thu 05-Dec-13 11:02:42

I was looking at footage of 53 in preparation for a lecture on coastal defences. Truly frightening. They downplayed it because the country so so demoralised from war and rationing and so on, but it was Britain's worst ever peacetime disaster. The Netherlands had it much worse.

dingdongduckyfuzz Thu 05-Dec-13 11:04:01

hmm they've shut the road I should be using in about an hour...

meditrina Thu 05-Dec-13 11:13:24

An Environment Agency official, speaking in Wells, said all the conditions were in place for flooding in north Norfolk; he was saying it might be like 1978 (not 1953, so a small mercy).

Really hoping it's not as bad as they predict it could be.

ClaimedByMe Thu 05-Dec-13 11:14:08

We have snow!!!!!!

FourAndDone Thu 05-Dec-13 11:20:36

Where are you claimed?
I'm in the midlands and have never known it be so windy!confused

RalphGnu Thu 05-Dec-13 11:22:06

Coastal Lancashire here. Fence panels are down in the back garden - our neighbour's jack russell has escaped through our garden and is missing and my neighbour isfrantic.

Really quite frightened. The tree in my garden is cracking.

I don't remember the last two major floods '53 but there are markers all around here showing the flood heights.
My children's school flooded though... Luckily the next high tide isn't during school hours. I do have friends in the village though.

"it was Britain's worst ever peacetime disaster."

Ever? Wow

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 11:28:36

Have you and way of making sure it falls safely, Ralph?

I'm watching reports of trees and chimneys coming down all over our area. If the power does go, I may need ot use the camping stove to make tea because we're not going to be able to get to anywhere else to find food. Except maybe KFC, which is revolting!

LemonBreeland Thu 05-Dec-13 11:33:01

I am in the Scottish borders and the drive to work and school was pretty terrifying this morning. The radio is full of roads closed blocked by trees.

Police have also issued a level 4 no travel warning. Not until after 9 am when everyone had already travelled though. confused

It was horrendous here until about 5 minutes ago. It went from really dar, with howling gales and sleet/rain to barely any wind and some blue sky visible. It is very strange.

nicky2512 Thu 05-Dec-13 11:35:08

Horrible here in N Ireland too. Was v bad through the night but hopefully seems to be calming a bit now. Supposed to snow though. My kids are singing at a Christmas tree lights thing tonight! Thankfully just had some work done on our roof, still couldn't sleep though!

ClaimedByMe Thu 05-Dec-13 11:37:01

I'm in Dundee...suns out now

HesterShaw Thu 05-Dec-13 11:37:47

That's what they call it Stealth.

I don't know what the people who faced the 18th C tsunami in the Bristol Channel would have to say about it though.

Have been reading a lot about the flood's of 53. While we could easily have the same weather again, the effects couldn't be the same. So many of the people who died were living in prefabs, there was no coordinated rescue, there was no warning, and many of the people died of exposure, not drowning. And many of the sea defences hadn't even been repaired after the war. It was a chapter of accidents.

It's a bit like comparing the Lynmouth floods with Boscastle and, which on paper were very similar, with one being so much more tragic than the other.

Hope I'm right anyway smile

littleredsquirrel Thu 05-Dec-13 11:40:16

Fantastic. We no longer have a roof on our covered terrace (Notts) fsad

HesterShaw Thu 05-Dec-13 11:41:52

Sorry, it was 1607, not 18th C.

Sorry about your roof, squirrel sad

oricella Thu 05-Dec-13 11:43:31

Calming down a little now in the highlands (it's all relative), but temperature is dropping and plenty of hail showers slowly turning to snow. Power cuts, schools closed - power only just come back on; grateful for the woodburner and the camping stove. Not much fun

sewingandcakes Thu 05-Dec-13 11:47:16

Wind and rain have really picked up in Rossendale, and I 'm very concerned about the anti fracking protesters in Barton Moss, Salford, as they are camping there.

HesterShaw Thu 05-Dec-13 11:48:56

Little bit breezy here (42mph recorded) but that happens a lot. Cold though.

People are starting to worry on other threads about east coast flooding. One lady's elderly mother is on her own and is frightened. This is horrible, poor thing sad

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 11:52:54

We're a few miles inland, but my parents live on the coast. Their main worry is how much more of the cliffs in their village will be gone after today. We're all banking on it taking about 30 years to reach their house!

littleredsquirrel Thu 05-Dec-13 11:54:59

I have moved from the office (separate building in the garden) to the house. We have three trees which are due to be taken down in a few weeks and I'm a little concerned that this wind might take them down for us!

Terrace roof needed replacing really but now we have no choice about the matter fsad

littleredsquirrel Thu 05-Dec-13 11:56:19

Luckily we have a lot of land around us so the roof isn't likely to damage anyone else's property

Hester - which thread? Wondering if we can help

HesterShaw Thu 05-Dec-13 12:01:29

Someone from the Environment Agency has gone on and been Very Sensible smile

HesterShaw Thu 05-Dec-13 12:04:09

There does seem to be a little bit of confusion about how a potential flood will occur though e.g. she had never heard of a flood there before. here

She's had some advice, though hasn't said where she is.

Oh no squirrel!

magimedi Thu 05-Dec-13 12:18:09
littleredsquirrel Thu 05-Dec-13 12:19:48

AAagh now have two shutters blown off the house too!

FFS we're in nottinghamshire I didn't expect this!

sewingandcakes Thu 05-Dec-13 12:23:49

Squirrel I hope it passes soon for you! We've lost some roof tiles here but nothing as severe as you.

settling down here

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 12:26:48

ah yes - looking at the radar there is a squall line developing. Across the country at the level of manchester currently.

Its wild here now, Lots of debris from trees on the road.

The windows are creaking.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 12:30:41

thatll be the squall line!

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 12:32:56

Sunshine now and a dusting of snow on the Ochills. Was down by the water for my dogwalk and even though it was about 4 hours before high tide, it looked almost like a high tide already.


BanjoPlayingTiger Thu 05-Dec-13 12:38:35

We had a spot of sunshine and a calm period, but its started again with the rain and wind as bad as earlier.
I get really nervous in this sirt of weather. It is really not good at all.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 12:49:45

so strange to be sat in the middle of southern england watching all of this going on online! Here it is blustery, maybe gusting to about 40mph and thats it.

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 12:50:58

After a lull, the rain's back here in East Durham, too, though not quite as horizontal as 10am. I had contemplated running a bath, but I've changed my mind.

Oymlk How long is it going to last in northwest

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 12:57:04

by early evening it should have calmed down significantly.

West Durham seems still quite calm and peaceful. Lots of sun

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 12:58:52

Are you pretty sheltered there SPB?

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 12:59:46

We have the sun back again. Just a passing angry cloud, it seems!

Still not bothering with laundry - will just wash a small, easy to dry load this evening so DS2 has a clean sweatshirt for the morning.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 13:01:02

Gusting to 50mph down here. I need to get my anemometer higher up - its under reading.

Happiestinwellybobs Thu 05-Dec-13 13:01:13

Getting worse in NW. The rain has stopped and blue skies came, but the wind has ramped up. DD's playhouse is shifting, and wheelie bins littering the roads (why is it always windy on bin day?)

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 13:03:20

Are you due more OYBBK?
Can also report that the dogs' ears flapped, as did their faces and lips....

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 13:03:46

My neighbours have put their bin out. I might point out to them it could be worse for us later!

no, we're quite high up really.
Still not putting the bin out until the morning though grin

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 13:05:23

Found this twitter pic on another forum.

StiffGandT Thu 05-Dec-13 13:06:01

And.....we now have snow!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 13:07:22

peri, I'm keeping an eye on the squall line as it comes down here. I think it thins out as it approaches, so we might not get much. I think it will leave the south coast at about 10pm ish????

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 13:08:07

There we go G&T. No weather and then it all comes at once grin I saw there was thunder and lightning first thing in parts of northern Scotland too!

BlackeyedSusan Thu 05-Dec-13 13:11:46

w mids blustery here. the squall line is approaching

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 13:14:23

It's just started kicking off here (Leicester) ~ it's looking quite dark to the north. Highest gust so far ~ 23mph at 12.24. We had one heck of a gust about 11.30 ~ I was watching a magpie walking along the drive and it did several somersaults when it hit. It flew off looking rather surprised!

fairisleknitter Thu 05-Dec-13 13:16:00

We've had a tornado (according to my son!) lashing rain that leaked in through the windows, then eerie calm, followed by a blizzard and now the sun has come out. Central Scotland.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 13:16:39

fairisle - tell me about the tornado report.

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 13:16:46

Be interesting to see what the temperature does ~ 11C atm.

M6 north junt 20 to 21 down to one lane from 4 hope it clears for hometime town has flood warnings too

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 13:17:25

SNOW!!!!!!!! grin grin grin .......not much but.....

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 13:22:12

Will be very interested Gloria!

envy perihelion.

Am listening to radio norfolk at the moment. Presenters are very cheery!

onlysettleforbutterflies Thu 05-Dec-13 13:27:26

I am in Manchester, a lorry was overturned earlier on Barton Bridge due to high winds and our building has been rocking a bit (very high up).

Can't hear it as much now, so perhaps dying down.

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 13:27:59

10.3C. Bit of blustery rain but not much else so far. Still dark.

fairisleknitter Thu 05-Dec-13 13:29:10

My son was observing the swirling winds outside our front door this morning. He did "do" weather in geography this year but I wouldn't put much faith in his weather knowledge.

It was seriously intense with us for a while and very blustery. I was on the brink of saying no school as the trees looked risky. It was much worse than had been forecast (yesterday) through central belt. A lorry driver has been killed not far away . A terrible morning.

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 13:29:10

Just said on BBC News that North Lincolnshire should prepare for flooding from 5pm.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 13:32:10

Sounds right. coastal surge thread for anyone whos not spotted it.

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 13:40:56

9.9C (I'm trying to do the temp every 10 mins or so) and gone very dark.

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 13:51:26

9C Still dark but not actually that windy. Think this is the quietest it's been since 11am ish.

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 13:53:34
GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 13:59:45

Lucky escape there!
There are reports on our local news that Mansfield's Christmas tree has been blown over and a tree has fallen on a house in Shepshed (near Loughborough.)
Temp down to 8.7C atm.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 14:00:19

I think it will pick up again when the skies clear Gloria. Still seems very lively.

Lucky family!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 14:00:45

oops about the christmas tree. I think there will be a lot of sad councils tomorrow!

According to my DM, after a brief quiet sunny spell, it is now snowin on the banks of the Clyde.

Four seasons in one day (almost).

TurnOffTheTv Thu 05-Dec-13 14:18:14

It's been bonkers in Durham City today. 10am brought winds and rain of end of the world proportions, bins flying everywhere, then lovely sun! 45 mins ago it was sideways rain, hail and snow, now the suns back out!

allmycats Thu 05-Dec-13 14:23:17

A1 closed both North and South - North Near Pontefract, South just before Doncaster.
Here - 8 miles south of Doncaster trees are down in the street and blocking the road
The weather, apart from the wind is bright and sunny

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 14:23:32

Standard Scottish weather then manky. Snow didn't get going here. 3C now, started the morning at 8C. Pressure rising.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Thu 05-Dec-13 14:24:19

Totally terrified all night here, ended up going out at 4:30am to move the garden table and play frame. W have lots of massive trees at the end of the back garden and I was frightened one would come down.

Next door's goal post has knocked their fence down and a trampoline in a house behind us isn't there anymore. Other next door's trampoline rolled down their hill.

In Glasgow.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Thu 05-Dec-13 14:24:49

Oh yes, it's now snowing too. hmm

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 14:27:48

schro - serious question: why dont people secure their trampolines? I know its been a nasty storm but you arent unused to them up there.

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 14:29:09

Brightened up here (Leicester) and the wind's dropped. I think the temperature's finished dropping and gone from 11C down to 8.8C in just over an hour.

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Thu 05-Dec-13 14:29:56

I have no idea why they don't, we don't have one and our big playframe is holding our table steady against the wall. Next door have just put their garden chairs, table and parasol(!) on and beside their playframe. Worried about the parasol.

Bloody hate trampolines, they give me the fear in storms.

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 14:30:45

Reports of snow showers showing up here.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 14:30:46

keep measuring Gloria!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 14:31:26

they dont sound like they have much imagination Schro!

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 14:35:15

Why do people need a parasol out in December, anyhow?hmm

SchroSawMummyRidingSantaClaus Thu 05-Dec-13 14:38:18

They just haven't taken it in from the summer, we've had some bad winds recently and I've been watching the bloody thing almost fly out (and once it did) a fair few times.

They share a garden with their downstairs neighbours (cottage flat) and I doubt they will be happy that their newish neighbours goalposts (they have filled the previously empty garden with a goalpost, a massive playframe and garden furniture that's left out) have knocked the 6 ft bloody fence down.

GloriaSmud Thu 05-Dec-13 14:44:11

8.4C and the sun's come out!

tweetytwat Thu 05-Dec-13 14:46:27

I'm in Cheshire and it's bloody grim. Very windy, intermittent rain and now it's very forceful hailstones. And I'm about to walk to school to get the children <sob> it's only a 5 minute walk

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 14:48:59

I'm about to don my waterproofs for the school walk, too. I'll be sweating like a pig by the time I've pushed DS2 uphill in his buggy, into the wind, for 1km! Should dose up on my painkillers, fist, i think.

Arghhh m6 closed junt20 to 21 going to be grim getting home warrington will ve gridlocked

littleredsquirrel Thu 05-Dec-13 15:22:19

No power here in notts for the past few hours.

DowntonTrout Thu 05-Dec-13 15:23:19

West Yorkshire here.

The wind has just stopped!

SantyClaws Thu 05-Dec-13 15:32:51

Greetings from Canada....fgrin Have been reading about your dreadful winds - saw some poor woman hanging on to a lampost in Leeds.... Not good.

It's -26 here in Calgary this morning (yes you read that right) and -33 earlier with the wind chill, but we've lost some wind since then so we're now pretty much at ambient temp.

We had a huge blizzard (literally) on Monday and are still digging out but should be sunny today - it's just getting light.

Apparently we are forecast a foot more snow next week so that's something to look forward to fconfused

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 15:35:39

brrr at -26C!!!!!

SantyClaws Thu 05-Dec-13 15:36:38

brr indeed - human beings don't function well at these temperatures!!

Dry here at the moment, but it is bitter cold and still windy.

The sky looks to be full of snow.

DowntonTrout Thu 05-Dec-13 15:43:41

Uh-oh! Spoke too soon.

The wind is back, it's gone very dark and it's hailing.

VivaLeBeaver Thu 05-Dec-13 15:45:20

There's lots of trees down near us. Big ones.

The roof has blown off the co-OP and some solar panels have come off a roof and landed on someone in town.


TheWildOnes Thu 05-Dec-13 15:53:49

I am right on the east coast and the roads around us are bring evacuated, we are on a slight hill so assume that's why we haven't had to leave.
I have lots of nightmares about the sea and flooding so I have to admit I am terrified right now.
The wind is so strong as well. Most businesses are closing early for the day and I'm hoping that now the kids are home we are safe in our house til this is all over, fingers crossed!

VivaLeBeaver Thu 05-Dec-13 16:13:24

Omg, a passenger jet has had to land at our local raf base due to the wind! Wish em luck disembarking, etc as they won't have steps.

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 16:13:52

Checking my twitter feed and the flooding's hit all the Northeast coastal towns. Right at rush hour.

The main road near us has been closed by a fallen power line. Thankfully, after DH's turn off for home. There's a line down in the next village, too, though it's not on the main road. I ended up having to give some poor person directions after she'd been sent round the houses trying to get there, though!

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 16:15:05

thats a bit exciting Viva! Down the slide?!

hefner Thu 05-Dec-13 16:25:29

South Yorkshire here and the wind seems to have calmed down slightly, although still very windy. We've lost 5 fence panels so far. Are we over the worst of it now?

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 16:26:47
DeathByLaundry Thu 05-Dec-13 16:26:48

Well I was on moaning about thunder, lightning, rain and wind this morning after rescuing my errant trampoline. Now we're in the midst of a blizzard, the roads and pavements have turned to ice and DH has only just made it to work past crashed cars and is hoping he'll be allowed home before his official 2am finish. Roads are treacherous here.

However, we've not been flooded not will we be so I'm very grateful for that.

Off to dig the path out.

Mckayz Thu 05-Dec-13 16:28:44

Whitby is flooding. I'm not there but have a few friends there posting pictures. Looks awful.

hefner Thu 05-Dec-13 16:31:22

Fingers crossed for you TheWildOnes and everyone else on the east coast.

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 16:38:13

A load of Stockton's underwater too, near where DH used to work. It's not even supposed to have peaked, yet.

Tyne has burst it's banks. Not exactly sure where

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 16:41:00

It's all over the Festival site in Dunston, Littlemiss.

TheWildOnes Thu 05-Dec-13 16:42:11

Thanks for the good luck hefner, good luck to all.

ouryve Thu 05-Dec-13 16:42:51

Sorry, but I had a wry giggle at this tweet. Shouldn't it be the other way round?hmm

"Tyne and Wear UTMC ‏@TyneWearTravel 5m
The Shields Ferry has been suspended for rest day due to high tide & flooding. Replacement bus service operating. #floodaware"

VivaLeBeaver Thu 05-Dec-13 16:45:16

Ah turns out the Monarch flight was meant to land at the raf base. RAF haven't enough of their own planes and chartered it to bring some crew back. hmm

Perihelion Thu 05-Dec-13 16:47:25

Littlemiss did you try getting to Edinburgh today?

No, we're going Saturday instead. Friday traffic is a nightmare so sat should be quieter.
Glad we didn't roads sound horrendous!

We're in Whitby and we're cut off I think! Supposed by going to my DD's xmas fair in half an hour but the road along the coast to her school is closed. Think we may be able to get down some country teeny tiny B roads shock. Can't miss it. She's 4 and is performing a song with her class for the first time.

School train didn't make it as there was a tree across the line this morning.

Water has flooded the harbour car parks and the min roundabout at dock end is about 2-3 feet under water!

meditrina Thu 05-Dec-13 18:26:34

TheHappyCamper is there anyone you can ring to find out if the performance is going ahead in these conditions?

Also, as roads near you are closing, even if you get there, there's no guarantee you'd get back. Make sure you know where you can stay if you are stranded, and that you have a good survival kit in the car in case you get stuck en route and have to sleep in it.

Thanks. We text one of the organisers and it was going ahead. Took the country road and got there in 35 mins instead of our usual 10 but it was worth it smile.

Hope everyone else got where they needed to be.

meditrina Thu 05-Dec-13 20:10:03

Glad it worked out for you, Happy

Mirage Thu 05-Dec-13 20:58:38

Our power went at 1.30pm and has only just come back on,lucky it did as we had nearly run out of candles.Trees are down and when I went to check on the ponies at 2pm I struggled to walk across the field.We are used to power cuts living here,but have never had one as long as this.

OhYouMerryLittleKitten Thu 05-Dec-13 21:08:09

Nice to have you back mirage smile

BlackeyedSusan Thu 05-Dec-13 23:59:46

BRR. cold

the squall blew over the netball hoop at dd's school. there have been trees down over the w mids.

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