are we on for another really snowy winter then?

(299 Posts)

Bah humbug

There are already loads of red berries on some of our trees and bushes in the back garden.

I am told that this is a sign of an impending long hard Winter. hmm.

Elsqueak Fri 12-Oct-12 14:59:48

Yes, tonnes of berries here too, almost no foliage there's so many. Does it really mean bad winter?...gawd I hate winter...sad

Faverolles Fri 12-Oct-12 15:00:24

BIL (very knowledgable weathery person) reckons this year could be as bad as 1947.

He is known for predicting dooooom though.

Bah. Humbug. Last winter was Sooo lovely, like the winters of my childhood, grey and drizzly...

I wasn't around in 1947, was that the year the temp never dropped below 5 degrees and the sun shone every day?

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 15:02:12

I hope so. I love the snow, and the cold. Much prefer winter to summer.

I have been stockpiling suitable footwear so I NEED the weather to wear them. blush

straighttohellymelly Fri 12-Oct-12 15:02:49

1947 was the year it was frozen for months on end. 1962-3 was bad too. I wasn't around either btw.

DraggleTailedWench Fri 12-Oct-12 15:03:33

Sorry to be different here but I love the snow! Hope it is snowy!

[throws snowball at OP and jumps quickly behind sofa]

Absy Fri 12-Oct-12 15:04:07

I remember reading about a squillion articles last year that because of the extra berries etc etc it was going to be super cold.

It wasn't.

I will probably still need to buy a coat though.

SheelaNeGig Fri 12-Oct-12 15:04:57

1947 was the freak heatwave winter. Was 27° between november and march.

Ignoring Mrsv
(though I don't like full on summer either - I much prefer spring and autumn and my favourite day would be 16 degrees, warm but wih plenty of shade)
We haven't hd autumn this year. October 1st came round and all of a sudden it was defrost your car weather - that could go on to march.

Ooh sheela that sounds a bit too hooot

I think I may invest in some of those slankets if we really are in for another hard one. With the price of gas and electricity going up it's going to be a bloody economical nightmare for a lot of us trying to stay warm!

straighttohellymelly Fri 12-Oct-12 15:06:27

Oh- so was 1948 the very cold one then?

ZombTEE Fri 12-Oct-12 15:06:40

Please not too much ice! We have a long windy hilly trip on foot to preschool!

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 15:06:59

You ignore me, I don't care.

Bet more posters like the winter than don't.


SheelaNeGig Fri 12-Oct-12 15:07:33

And theres hardly any berries here.

Last year my garden was over run with berries but we had pitifully little snow (I was actually quite hacked that it was tepid at Christmas. I wanted snow)

And the years we did have snow, I had an automatic car (which are a bugger on ice). Last year I got one with gears and everything wink

My Grandad used to talk about a winter where the snow was up to the top of the windows.

I hope it wasnt 1974 shock

Though 1965 sounds familiar. Was 1965 bad?

Pascha Fri 12-Oct-12 15:09:34

Nononono i refuse to give birth in the snow with no midwives. The snow can arrive in february if it likes.

I remember the worst winter for snowfall round here was in my last year in Secondary 1983/84 maybe iirc.

Snow up to our waists grin and having to leave school early so the out of town kids could get home to their village!

BigWitchLegsInWailyTights Fri 12-Oct-12 15:10:09

Oh I LOVE snow and bad weather! And I'm going to bloody Oz for 5 weeks and I bet I miss it all! I don't like the heat....I just don't.

Pascha you may have to keep your legs crossed until next May

Happybunny12 Fri 12-Oct-12 15:11:14

Hmm, i am on mat leave and live in a hilly village. Do I want lots of snow or not? Can't decide. Although i suppose that so long as the sainsburys van can get through and the power stays on (no telly, no wifi, no mumsnet eek) then all will be well. Bring on the snow!!

1947 was terrible, 1948 (year my Mum was born) was also quite bad. I still have raspberries on my raspberry canes and my Hawthorne tree is covered in berries. I think it's going to be a long, hard winter sad

Absy Fri 12-Oct-12 15:13:11

I do think 1947 was very bad.

Well, hopefully I will be pregnant by winter, so that will help with the cold <-practical.

I am so not a winter person. Give me 30+ degrees and everyday sunshine and I'm a happy bunny. I particualrly love the evenings, when you can walk around without a cardigan or anything. My home town (Johannesburg) has the PERFECT weather. True story

LadyFlumpalot Fri 12-Oct-12 15:13:48

Oh I love snow! Part of my grand master plan in choosing the house I live in, was that it is remote enough so I can't get to work if it snows hard enough! grin

We are NOT going to run out of gas this year, as we almost did last year

1947 was v cold at the beginning of the year. My dad was born in the Feb and my grandad couldn't get through the snow to meet him. My other grandma was walking along hedge tops to get to work (or so family legend declares)

DolomitesDonkey Fri 12-Oct-12 15:15:22

Yes, I think we're on for a bad one. Last year was so mild we didn't even buy snow tyres despite driving to Germany daily where they're mandatory... We just didn't need to.

EldritchCleavage Fri 12-Oct-12 15:15:44

Oh no! No central heating at work (period building). I'm going to need a lap blanket and some sheepskin boots...

Bunbaker Fri 12-Oct-12 15:16:01

"Bet more posters like the winter than don't."

I hate winter. I hate the long dark nights and short days with low light levels. We live on a hill so if it snows using the car will be a problem. If the buses stop running DD will miss school and I won't be able to get to work.

As a child I loved snow, but we lived in a town and it was relatively flat where we lived, but now I am an adult living in a village and heavy snow is bad news for us.

Yes. The hedgetops tale was a favourite of my grandads. It must have been 1947 he was talking about.

DolomitesDonkey Fri 12-Oct-12 15:16:05

Ps I gave birth this year in a blizzard... As I had my section I watched the snow fall which was rather lovely.

ImPeppaPigOink Fri 12-Oct-12 15:16:06

The snow is not allowed to come until March or it has to be melted by February as I can't give birth with no Midwifes.

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Fri 12-Oct-12 15:16:45

I'm saying not.

And I know absolutely everything grin

akaemmafrost Fri 12-Oct-12 15:18:17

Best winter ever was 2008/09. I live in London and it came to a complete standstill for two days in February. No buses, no vehicles, nothing it was brilliant, a big urban snowy landscape. Wish that would happen again.

LadyFlumpalot Fri 12-Oct-12 15:20:35

I had a home birth Xmas 2010 and made the midwives come out at 3:30am at -11 and down country roads piled high with ice and snow. They managed it fine! They did tell me the week before, however, that they had previously had to get the nice army people from Blandford to come over the hills in all terrain vehicles to get someone to hospital in the snow. Haven't yet worked out if they were joking...

I love the snow smile I didn't enjoy walking to work in it, when I was pregnant with DS1, I got made redundant last month so I will be able to make the most of the snow with the DC this year smile fingers crossed there's lots smile

BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead Fri 12-Oct-12 15:21:42

Oh god, is it time for a prepsring for winter thread already?!

I have a new coat and boots. We'll have a heatwave...

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Fri 12-Oct-12 15:23:20

The only thing stopping me from actually forking out for a North Face parka, apart from the cost obviously, is the certain knowledge that if I do buy the wretched thing, we will have the warmest winter since records began.

Weirdandwonderful Fri 12-Oct-12 15:25:47

I have a slanket and yaktrax grin <prepared>
And a job that send people to get you if you can't get to work sad

We will buy chains. Then winter will be mild. You can thank me later. I think last winter was mild because we finally got round to getting a shovel

2010 was a cracker, icicles everywhere and bloody freezing but gorgeous.

We live on a bus route so the roads were always gritted so we were lucky but the pavements were a death trap!

plantsitter Fri 12-Oct-12 15:27:06

akaemmafrost I remember that winter well! We were snowed in on DD's due date and I was shitting it!

I had dd in Sept 2009. Her first ever laugh was when her big brother started playing with the huge (inches thick) icicles that were outside his window - he threw them in the baby bath to watch them shatter and she was entranced.

HanSolo Fri 12-Oct-12 15:28:35

my father skated over the Thames in the late 40s! Must have been coooooold!

Annunziata Fri 12-Oct-12 15:28:38

Nooo I hate the snow.

The early 90s had a couple of terrible winters too, I remember the DC being tiny and we were absolutely snowed in.

This thread reminds me why I'd like a woodburner, romantic and cheaper than bloody gas. grin

SkeletonButterfly Fri 12-Oct-12 15:29:36

In the same vein as PP, it won't be a particularly cold winter because I would like it to be. Sod's law sad

Looking at forecasts, Arctic sea ice is low this usually ties in with bad/cold winters in the UK.

Must get dh to sort out gas, he wants to switch suppliers. I don't cRe as long as the tanks full before we're snowed in with the heating on full

ScarahStratton Fri 12-Oct-12 15:30:54

Squeee! I remember winter 1984ish too, it was brilliant.

Yaktrax - tick
Sledges - tick
Sledges - tick
4x4 - tick

Just need to get in food stocks. grin

headfairy Fri 12-Oct-12 15:31:36

DD was born NYE 2009 and our midwife walked through 3 foot of snow carrying her scales to come and weigh her when we'd been released a couple of days later. I was less keen on being pratically housebound for weeks with icy slush on the roads and post cs not being terribly confident on my feet.

BTW, I hate to be a killjoy but loads of berries only mean it was a good spring this year, it has absolutely no meaning for the upcoming winter.

Dawndonna Fri 12-Oct-12 15:32:54

I like winter. I love snow. I remember my Dad taking me down to the river in Putney, in '62/'63. It was frozen.
I remember digging my uncle's car out so that he could go to mass. I was five and loved it.
I'm in my fifties now and still love it.

We bought a sledge for DS1 last year but we'll have to walk a fair way to find a hill! <cambridgeshire>

LadyFlumpalot Fri 12-Oct-12 15:33:14

My dad worked for the met office as a forecaster before he retired. He still does consultancy for them and said the other week "If I were a gambling man, I'd put money on it being an unusually cold winter"

Of course, this is the man who, when I call him to ask if its going to rain says "I dunno".

Did someone just squee on my thread?
And whats a yaktrax, a couple of people have mentioned them now

Where can I love where the temperature is consistently 5-20 degrees?

ArielThePiraticalMermaid Fri 12-Oct-12 15:35:35

Cornwall. It never ever gets above 20 degrees and rarely goes below 5.

It's boring.

ScarahStratton Fri 12-Oct-12 15:35:37

I did grin

They're springy grippy things that go over your shoes, help you grip in the ice.

I've got to get some yaktrax grin never seen those before!

Do you take them off when you get into the shops or leave them on, genuine question!

I need yaktrax!

ScarahStratton Fri 12-Oct-12 15:37:49

We leave them on, loads of people use them up here, they're brilliant things. It's worth getting the higher spec ones imo.

Sugar, I went to school in Essex, that winter was fantastic, the snowdrifts were taller than me.

NoillyPrat Fri 12-Oct-12 15:40:15

I love snow! I was very happy in December 2010, that we had snow for our wedding, it made for some beautiful pictures smile

I'd like a little bit this year, preferably none when we travel for a couple of weekends away though.

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 15:42:59

Worth noting that 'The North Face' winter boots have special, clever little 'ice pick' things in them that also grip the snow and ice so you don't end up on You've Been Framed or something.

And they really work ! My NF boots are so snuggly and comfy to wear I have lived in them this year. I appreciate there hasn't been any snow of late, but that's besides the point. I feel the cold very easily. grin

Scarah I'll always remember being in charge of my brother on our way home from school that winter and it taking us hours to get home because of all the snow and snowball fights grin despite only living 20 minutes away.

Funny how a thread like this can make you remember good times from long ago. grin

halcyondays Fri 12-Oct-12 15:46:35

I like winter and I like snow if I can stay at home. But I hate having to walk anywhere when it's icy so can we please schedule any ice and snow for the school Christmas holidays?

ScarahStratton Fri 12-Oct-12 15:50:43

Linky to the NF boots please.

SugariceandScarey I think you're meant to remove them on indoor floors (like shopping centres/shops) because of the risk of slipping and damaging the floor.

I haven't worn mine yet (got QVC and Costco ones).
But 2 years ago, the town centre was like glass even with my wellies on (the chunky tread ones)

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:01:52


Google the NF Nuptse Fur IV boots.

They feel weird at first because they are so lightweight, but they are honestly brilliant !

Tip : If you have diddy feet, get the girls/junir version. A bit sturdier and half the price !

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:02:24

*junior, sorry.

ScarahStratton Fri 12-Oct-12 16:03:20

Diddy feet. I wish sad

Thanks, off for a look.

littlemisspumpkin Fri 12-Oct-12 16:03:37

I love snow! I live on a hill but we get gritted because there is a school at the back of our house, so we can walk easily to school.

Both me and oh can walk to work so we are lucky in that respect.

I have some snow boots and a gorgeous north face coat which I love!

Cant wait to get all wrapped up snug to go out!

What about these babies for the snow!

Bunnygotwhacked Fri 12-Oct-12 16:04:48

I'm hoping it snows heavily over christmas so we are all stuck in eating lovely christmas food and dp won't have to work christmas day. It won't but hey i can hope

Can it either be six foot deep or nothing? I don't want to do the 'is the school open?' thing. Ta.

VerySmallSqueak Fri 12-Oct-12 16:07:25

Having moaned constantly about the snow over the last few years,I am going to try my best to embrace it this year.

I am planning snow animals rather than a big ol' boring snowman.

And a night sledging session with the kids.

Can't stop it happening so I'm going to turn my frown upside down grin

SingingSands Fri 12-Oct-12 16:08:04

It had better not snow. I've just bought a BMW 1 series - they're atrocious in snow and ice!

I reckon it will be very cold, but dry. DRY I tell thee!

Meglet Fri 12-Oct-12 16:08:30

I think it's going to be another cold one. The temp seems to have dropped really fast this month.

LittleBairn Fri 12-Oct-12 16:09:21

I love winter and snow but not this year please! I'm like bambi on ice in bad weather probably not good if pregnant.
Oh and I need to buy a pair of grippy snow boots and probably a larger winter coat.
Plus I now commute to work on the train this will be a nightmare in snowy conditions it's bad enough when it rains.

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:10:46


They are shocking !

I seem to have developed a 'thing' for certain pairs of Merrells. I've bought 1 pair so far, at a 3rd of the price, which is good, but I keep seeing other pairs and I NEED THEM ALL !

Last year it was Skechers, the Grand Slam ones. I bought 4 pairs last year, some of which bless them have only been worn once and lived inside the wardrobe ever since. I do need a black pair of those, then I think I have a pair in every colour.

I do love my NF though. Sitting here my feet are freezing, even with my huge animal slippers on. All fluff and no foomfh ! I might have to put my NF on. grin

Yes Singing Cold and dry would be perfect.

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:12:20

OOh, also just reminded me. The DCs knackered their sledges last year, maybe new ones can go on the Christmas list ?


Unless we get any beforehand, then it's plastic jobbies from the toy shop.

Pascha Fri 12-Oct-12 16:12:21

Oh bugger off SPB shock Fourteen month pregnancy? I think bloody not! Although i like the idea of contracting in front of the woodburner smile

grin I wouldn't wear them Mrs V, leopard's not my thing really but Snow Joggers are supposed to be really warm!

I need decent winter boots, I'll look at the NF and Merrells!

DeWe Fri 12-Oct-12 16:15:11

I hope so grin

Ds starts asking when it will snow from end of August onwards.

BrainSurgeon Fri 12-Oct-12 16:16:43

We will have some lovely snow for X-mas, couple of days of standstill with beautiful white snow everywhere, then it will melt quickly and we will have lovely mild temperatures and blue sky all round.

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:17:04

Don't give me any more ideas about potentially good, warm winter boots. grin wink

I got some Merrell Prevoz in black, they are beautiful, and maybe too good for snow ? grin

I am currently looking at the Oslo's, but also like the Taiga's. But there's lots to choose from, so I find it's easier just to get pair after pair, so you have one of each. grin

BrainSurgeon Fri 12-Oct-12 16:18:17

Oh DeWe mine too - he asks every single bloody day "is it Christmas yet" and sings Jingle bells and We whish you a Merry Christmas on the way to school. Every. morning.

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:18:46

The only trouble is, is when I remember they do different styles in different colours. grin

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:20:23

I have a cockatiel that whistles Jingle Bells.

Sounded daft in August so I taught him "Whistle While You Work".

Which would be fine, but he seems to enjoy doing a mash up of the two !

VerySmallSqueak Fri 12-Oct-12 16:20:55

MrsVamo don't wait till Christmas for the sledges - it'll be too late by then judging by the last couple of years.

Sledge purchases to be made now to avoid disappointment. Or prevent it snowing. grin

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:23:59

I have just thought of that, Squeak. smile

I might have to get on ebay and see if I can find some. I know my local toy shop wont have any in yet.

The trouble is, I can never settle for just a 'sledge'. When I see all the other new-fangled ones, I can get a bit carried away. (see posts about boots !) blush

VerySmallSqueak Fri 12-Oct-12 16:24:24

See I'll be very put out if it doesn't snow this year tbh.
Last year I bought the kids snow boots in the next size up in the end of season sale.
It'd better bloody snow <says through gritted teeth>

(Sorry Singing )

Absy Fri 12-Oct-12 16:24:40

I want it to snow heavily like it did in Feb 2009 (so all transport in London down, snow days off work etc. etc.) except THIS TIME I will not be in a coach trying to get back to sodding Stansted Airport having had a flight redirected to Bristol and spending the night in Bristol sodding International Airport, finally arriving home 12 sodding hours later than I was supposed to.

Oh no. This time, I will be in bed, in nice PJs, watching movies, drinking hot chocolate and not going anywhere near the outside world, apart from a quick trip to the park to throw snow balls at geese


MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:24:47

The sledges may have to wait. There is a couple of pairs of Merrells I have my eyes on. grin

I'm so naughty.

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:26:56

Ah ha ! Squeak I have been sensible on that front.

I am going to get my DCs snow boots in about a months time.

Surely it won't snow before the end of November, will it ?

You're all making me panic now.

What first ?

(More) Boots for me, sledges, and DCs boots ?

Argh. It's too much.

VerySmallSqueak Fri 12-Oct-12 16:27:18

Get the kids interested in making their own customised sledges as an Autumn project.
That way you can have your Merrells, Mrs and everyone's a winner.

ScarahStratton Fri 12-Oct-12 16:28:36

Ooh Merrels, where's the best place to get Merrels?

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:29:19

Ooooh, I like your thinking, Squeak.

Plastic sledge, stickers, and new boots. Brilliant.

I really shouldn't buy any more boots though. I might have to get them and stash them away for Christmas. I can have 1 present, can't I ?


MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:32:10



I got my BEAUTIFUL Prevoz's for £50 a few weeks ago.

Sometimes you have to bide your time and be patient.


google your preferred style of boot, and go to shopping...then sort according to cost. I think Lillywhites and SportsDirect have some deals ATM.


Ebay ! Some nice ones on there atm for £70. Fluffy, lace up, good stompy, yet stylish boots. In black or brown. grin

lisaro Fri 12-Oct-12 16:33:09

I remember December 93. I was 8 1/2 months pregnant clearing a foot of snow off the car whilst speaking to my dad in Spain on the cordless phone and not sympathising with his freak sunburn.

ScarahStratton Fri 12-Oct-12 16:36:02

Brilliant, thank you smile

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 16:37:19

You're welcome, lovely ! smile

Trazzletoes Fri 12-Oct-12 16:38:27

Buy some yaktrax. I actually could not survive winter without them.

Right, will be ordering some tonight

ENormaSnob Fri 12-Oct-12 16:56:36

I love the winter and the snow.

Don't particularly like the 4 mile trek to work if I can't get the car up the hill out of the village.

Happybunny12 Fri 12-Oct-12 21:30:35

I think I need yaktrax in my life. Trazzle, do you think they would go over my wellies?

Trazzletoes Fri 12-Oct-12 21:50:07

Happybunny, if I were you, I would get them in men's size, and a big one at that (assuming you also have giant clompy feet like me!). I don't see why they wouldn't be fine. They really work and saved me several times on sheet ice last winter.

It can snow 24 hours a day all winter for all I care. Last year I was due with dd2 at the start of Jan and terrified of not being able to get to the hospital. Now I care not. Bring it on!

poohbearrulesinHELL Fri 12-Oct-12 22:06:52

I bought snow boots in January sale last year, consequently it didn't snow. Previous year got about half way to work, parked car and walked 3 miles home! Also bought snow shovel last year and salt for the drive. On maternity leave now so it can snow if it likes, I shall sit on my sofa and watch through the window grin

aJumpedUpPantryBoy Fri 12-Oct-12 22:08:15

I love the Winter when it is cold and snowy.

I have my Merrells, new Winter coat, snow shovel, yaktrax and snowsocks for DH's car (mine is a RW drive and no good in the snow)

We live in the middle of nowhere so I intend to stock up on food over the next few weeks.

I'm tempted to get some North Face boots as well

Of course, this means it won't snow.

JollyJack Fri 12-Oct-12 22:11:22

DM was born in 63. Their farm was snowed in from hogmanay until march 31st. The first vehicle to get out took my gran to hospital to have DM.

I don't fancy another winter like that. It was waist deep here a couple of years ago and that was bad enough.

FreddieMercurysEnormusPumpkin Fri 12-Oct-12 22:11:27

It won't snow, because people are prepared. There were LOTS of preparedy threads here last year, and not a bit of snow. Although the profileration of Yaktrax means there will be none of this malarkey

MrsVamoOOOOOs Fri 12-Oct-12 22:15:43


I know it's wrong, but people falling over is funny.

Well. I don't need a coat. But I do need boots. Several pairs. I need replacement fly boots for stomping inside, new hiking boots fir outdoors, new wellies for wet muddy snowy days.

And a slanket.

boaty Fri 12-Oct-12 22:22:12

I want a snowy, cold winter or its not winter at all...but living on the south coast unlikely! sad more likely damp

FreddieMercurysEnormusPumpkin Fri 12-Oct-12 22:23:54

Poor lad. It is funny thoughsmile

JollyJack Fri 12-Oct-12 22:25:08

You want to house-swap for 3 months, boaty? We had snow Xmas eve- April in 2010-11. And on and off late October-Jan in 2009-10, iirc.

boaty Fri 12-Oct-12 22:34:48

LOl...I think work might be a tad upset if I didn't go in for three it looks like I have mild/damp!! ;)

Prepared?! England is terrible when it snows! Arf, everything just seems to stop!

I don't mind though, I blardy luff snows and winter, I'm all about the cozy and snuggling with blankets, you can't do that in the summer.
I do need to give birth first though so If it could hold off actual snow for 4-5 weeks I'd be grateful. smile

We have a lovely weather section on mn smile

crappypatty Fri 12-Oct-12 23:07:48

I bought a new sledge from Costco today, a sure sign of heavy snowfall, my sixth sense must of been bleeping.

QueenMaeve Fri 12-Oct-12 23:16:01

I found this evidence snowy winter

It's not evidence but it is an interesting theory QM and one that I'm keeping an interested eye on. Our weather patterns are really complex so it's never really down to one factor but more of when several factors come together in the right way.

straighttohellymelly Sat 13-Oct-12 15:09:26

What size Yaktrax do I need for a 5-6 shoe? Can't find any guidelines.

SHriek - would you consider asking tech to move this to the weather section please, it makes me happy when all the weather threads are nicely corralled grin

For size 5 shoes I got small ones. They are brilliant.

KitCat26 Sat 13-Oct-12 16:12:26

I predict heavy snowfall in west suffolk before Christmas. Purely because we are having some work done and will be without central heating for a few weeks. I hope I'm wrong though!

DH on the other hand is praying for a long snowy winter because he has stocked up on winter tyres and needs to sell them and he will be at work and not in a freezing cold house with two small children.

Lifeisontheup Sat 13-Oct-12 16:28:45

Do you think I would be able to wear yaktrax on magnum work boots? I know I'll have to get into work if it snows and our boots are useless in the snow.

we now have a hail storm!
Kitten I will ask for this to be moved (unless you've already done it?)

I did ask, but tech said you had to ask and for me to ask you. grin we had a bit of hail too. Showers were beefier than I expected. Some lovely clouds though - all billowy and convective.

Life, he's but I'd probably size up if you are close to the size boundary. Mine go on over my walking boots.

He's? It was supposed to say yes. Silly iPad.

nipersvest Sat 13-Oct-12 17:12:11

it can't snow. i've just had turf laid in the garden.

of course that now means we'll have 2 ft and it'll set as rock hard ice for weeks.

straighttohellymelly Sat 13-Oct-12 17:15:57

I'm going to buy them for all of us then. Although dd2 is too small, the smallest are for a size 1 so will just about do dd1. Im I mad for feeling excited about yaktrax? I hate slipping about on ice.

We have plenty of weather to look forward to before winter (or not! Depending on your perspective) I might start a thread tomorrow on the potential for a nasty storm mid week, but I want to see how the models develop it for another couple of runs.

No hail here grin but it's very chilly with a bright blue sky, lovely light at this time of year too!

I too am stupidly excited about buying yaktrax, please let it snow.

DizzyHoneyBee Sat 13-Oct-12 17:27:15

No berries here and our strawberry plant has just flowered again - it flowered in February and again this month.

TwllBach Sat 13-Oct-12 17:58:47

It is soooo cold here, the temperature has really dropped over the last couple of days. I'm hoping for a few snow days I'm ashamed to say, as I work in a school. Just one or two, mind!

It is not allowed to snow. I live on a steep hill and I am pregnant, and I refuse to walk to work on sheet ice, and I also refuse to give birth on my own because the midwife can't get here. <stamps feet>

JsOtherHalf Sat 13-Oct-12 20:40:55

Aldi have some electric throws on special offer from tomorrow for £30 , might be worthwhile for some people ?

I'm too hot this evening. Still learning how to use our wood burner and its currently 25c in here.

auldspinster Sat 13-Oct-12 21:28:24

Walking poles are good for walking on packed snow or ice, I used to be a nervous wreck walking in wintery weather till I got a pair.

Trazzletoes Sun 14-Oct-12 07:34:40

Not unreasonable to be excited about buying Yaktrax. They are the most amazing things ever! I was very pregnant last winter and hate walking on snow and ice. I only fell over when I forgot to put them on.

There should be a size guide on their website...maybe under FAQs? If you want them to go over walking boots etc you will probably need to go for a larger size as the sizes are not terribly generous. Having said that, mine still work fine on my trainers.

AnEerieAirOfHorror Sun 14-Oct-12 07:42:45

Congrats on pg MrsB when are you due?

My first dc was born in fed 09 and there was snow on the road when i was in labour going to hospital and i staied for 6 days and missed most of the snow lol

forevergreek Sun 14-Oct-12 08:13:22

Another boot of wonder. I just brought some sorrel boots smile they are lovely! It's what everyone in Canada buys and they are 100% waterproof too ( well so the man in Colombia store told me)

I am now within walking distance from work so v much doubt I can get a snow day

Arf at OYBBK being tidy. I so agree wink

I have snow boots and a sledge AND have moved to a town where I will not be snowed in. So it is unlikely to snow, sorry.

TobyLerone Sun 14-Oct-12 08:29:14

I don't care when it snows as long as the roads are ok for my wedding in January. I'd hate for people not to be able to come. Trust me to have chosen a venue in the middle of nowhere.

DorsetKnob Sun 14-Oct-12 08:33:38

DH was born January 1963, they all lived in one room with the coal fire going.

I was talking about this to a friend yetsreday who predicted a mild winter as there were no acorns on the trees.

Bunbaker Sun 14-Oct-12 08:39:35

I remember the winter of 1963. My mum could pull my sister and me on the sledge all the way down to the shops. We had to go to the end of the road to pick up our milk as the milkman couldn't get up it and the branches of the big conifer in the garden were touching the ground with the weight of snow on it.

There are no acorns on the trees because of the weather this year so far, probably because of the drought at the beginning of the year followed by the near continuous damp.
However, I do think there is some logic to the prediction that low acorn/berry years mean a mild winter as often it seems that weather from one winter to the next comes in clusters of similar patterns. This time last year I remember that there were lots of berries (but still not so many sweet chestnuts) folklore predicted a harsh winter that never came.

Ice on the car windscreen today. sad

IamMummyhearmeROAR Sun 14-Oct-12 08:53:31

The winters of 2009/2010 the snow fell end of November and didn't shift till the end of January. I live in a village with lots of privately owned tracks and if they weren't cleared they developed about 8 inches of ninja ice covered with an innocent dusted of snow. Lethal.

So we are already prepped here. Winter wood for burner and snow boots delivered this week. All in ones from last years non event still good. UHT in and grit bin full. Bring it on!

soverylucky Sun 14-Oct-12 08:54:37

This time last year I purchased waterproof trousers for all of us, snow boots for the children and myself and we had the warmest winter for years. This year I am purchasing nothing so it will be snowmageddon! Be warned.

I am cancelling that out sovery. My Dad has dropped round with one of those mahoosive snow shovels for us. Therefore no snow. grin

Everlong Sun 14-Oct-12 08:58:04

I hate snow. It's a fecking pain in the arse and worries me senseless.

Ds has to get the school bus cross country 10 miles away and this makes me nervous.

I have to get youngest ds to school 6 miles away by car, which isn a nightmare in snow and ice.

Yes it looks pretty but logistically it's a ball ache.

BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead Sun 14-Oct-12 09:01:57

I've been trying to use up my store cupboard that had ridiculous amounts of food in it. So I predict snow for as soon as its empty...

I bought some 2L value bottles of water last year in case the pipes froze. DH drank half of a bottle before complaining that "this lemonade is horrible"...

I am with you Everlong. DS1 goes to school 12 miles away by coach but I have to drop him at the coach stop 6 miles away in the middle of nowhere.
This is the first year though. If it snows is it the bus company that decides whether DS goes to school? I suppose the school could be open but the bus can't get there? Or I can't get DS to the bus? confused

Everlong Sun 14-Oct-12 09:10:54

Last year school told us to keep an eye on the website for updates and to listen to the local radio.

Tbf there was only 2 days when he didn't get there but it just scares me, it's all windy roads and big drops <shudder> it is a main road to the motorway so is gritted but it still freaks me.

I had a lovely year where both DSs were in school half a mile away. I didn't worry about getting them to school in the snow. But it didn't work out for DS1 so we moved him and now I am back to stressing again.

It's all rural windy lanes to the school now. sad

Everlong Sun 14-Oct-12 09:37:30

It's swings and roundabouts sparking there is a school nearer for ds but it wasn't right for him for different reasons. He's at a fab school but it's a bit away from us.

Has your ds settled in his new school?

KatMumsnet (MNHQ) Sun 14-Oct-12 09:41:20

Hi, we've moved this into Weather at the OP's request.

Everlong he is like a different child. It was the right thing to do.

They don't start High School until Year 8 round here. he went up from Middle School with everyone else. It never occured to me it wouldn't be ok but he hated it from day one. I kept telling him it would be better by Half Term, Christmas then we got to Easter and he still hated it.

It isn't ideal having him 12 miles away but there are no more tears or sleepless nights. smile

laptopcomputer Sun 14-Oct-12 09:50:21

All my older relatives tell me that 1963 (started snowing on Boxing Day '62 and didn't stop until March '63 apparently) was much worse than 1947, it's just that 1947/8 had a much harder impact due to so many things including electricity still rationed/ in short supply after the war.

Everlong Sun 14-Oct-12 09:51:52

That's good to hear sparkling I remember your posts about how worried you were about moving him.

DuffyMoon Sun 14-Oct-12 09:53:02

Didn't get any snow last winter sad

Thanks EverlongOver half the children in the school go by school bus so if it does snow and the coach can't get there he won't be the only one. grin

But it isn't going to snow. grin

Dawndonna Sun 14-Oct-12 09:56:00

I have to drive two miles to the school bus stop. Apparently the bus company lets the school know by about six, if they'll be running or not. We too have the cross country on untreated roads trek!
I will be stocking up. Last year was really mild and the first year we didn't get snowed in. You can guarantee if I get nothing we'll be up the creek!

Yay, all nice and tidy! Now MN if you could come and tidy my living room that would be ace.....

SeveredEdMcDunnough Sun 14-Oct-12 10:01:55

<scrolls down for anything written by the MetKitten>

I have ordered one of these

I feel it may have been a bit precocious

Oh if they do that here Dawn that would be great. I wonder what happens if they get there by school bus and then the snow starts?

This happened about 3 years ago after Christmas. First day back. No snow on drop off but by 11am it was coming down thick and fast. Took DH 3 1/2 hours to get DS2 back from a school 6 miles away. I started out to get him and had to turn back. sad

ratbagcatbag Sun 14-Oct-12 10:13:33

I love snow, my office is twenty miles away on untreated roads, but me and DH work at the same place so can make him drive. Downside is if we really can't get in I have a local office across the road, so can walk over there and borrow a desk for the day, bonus is my working day is still shorter though as no snow traffic to fight through smile

I used to work for one of the big banks. We were told to go to the nearest branch if we couldn't get to work due to the snow. sad

ChippingInLovesAutumn Sun 14-Oct-12 10:27:06

Marking my place... I'll be backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Whitamakafullo Sun 14-Oct-12 10:27:14

The winter of 2010 was awful! I couldn't get to work for days, the schools were shut for a week, snow was up to my waist almost....

Last winter I was all prepared for it with spades and shovels in my car, but not a drop fell! grin

Indith Sun 14-Oct-12 10:28:30

I looooove the snow. Sorry SPB!

Last winter was boring and I the dcs were gutted because there wasn't enough snow for sledging. Dd has been banging on all year about buiding snowmen.

It is only a few weeks, during those 2 snowy winters we kept the car on the main road, wrapped up warm and dragged the dcs around on the sledge instead of trying to get the pushchair out. I loved it.

The downside was our unreliable stove that was out to kill us and kept breaking so we did a fair bit of those winters with no heating so I went round to spb's house and she fed me hot chocolate and then ds1 had a tantrum going home and I dropped him in a snowdrift when he fell off my shoulders.

But now we have a lovely new stove so I want snow this winter! Lots of it.

I rather like this autumn though. Nice crisp mornings followed by glorious sunny days. Tis lovely.

Thanks MNHQ

ahem Indith, I distictly remember a text from you that talked about "evil white stuff"
It stuck in my mind because that's how I've thought of it ever since!

In fairness I'm happier for it to be snowy this year than last - I'd just started a new job in December last year and would have felt awkward saying I couldn't come in. This year I feel I as though I've proved my worth a bit and they'll believe me if I say I can't come in.

Dawndonna Sun 14-Oct-12 10:43:30

Sparkling son is a bank manager, they are still told to go to their local branch!

Really Dawn? It's quite funny because unless you work in a branch usually you would be neither use nor ornament. grin

Indith Sun 14-Oct-12 10:55:06


Well it is distinctly possible that it annoyed me at times.

I missed it last year though. proper snow feels like proper winter. Though we are due to go down to my mum's for christmas so if it can wait til january that would be great. It is only good when you don't really have to go anywhere.

That sledge is cute. And it would save incidents happening like the time when dd was tiny and unbeknownst to me fell asleep when I was pulling her home on the sledge. I suddenly felt the sledge go light, looked round and there was dd fast asleep lying in the middle of the main road shock

SeveredEdMcDunnough Sun 14-Oct-12 10:58:08

Lol (sorry) blush That's got to be something we've all felt! A lightened sledge!

Hope dd was Ok.

I was eyeing up these metal ones last year but couldn't do it as they were all £75 - and then this one was reduced to 50 and well I just did it. blush

I think they will have to take turns, ds1 is 9 so might be too heavy - but babykins is due in January and ds2 is 5 so should be good for those two anyway.

Dd was fine smile thank goodness!

I reckon that sledge will have a good resale value if you don't get much chance to use it.

SeveredEdMcDunnough Sun 14-Oct-12 11:08:01

Hope so kitten - wondered if I might have to sell it back to someone in Poland!!!

I reckon that it's a product that could catch on here, if it snowed properly again.

Indith Sun 14-Oct-12 11:29:47

I want Lidl to do their brilliant snowboots for kids again this year, I'm sure it was around this time last year. Thick wellies (so waterproof for our british sludge unlike most snow boots), good tread with insulated soles and lovely wooly removable liners. Dd still wears hers ithout the liner for wellies but they are too small with liner. Warm boots are needed snow or no snow when it is cold, we might not have had snow last winter but we had some very, very cold weather.

Dd needs some new snow boots, so that's handy to know!

LadyFlumpalot Sun 14-Oct-12 11:47:34

Indith ours has had them already, bought DS a pair.

BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead Sun 14-Oct-12 11:50:22

Doh, there was me wondering how I'd get the pushchair out in snow/should I use a sling and risk falling over (plus DS2 is not a light child anyway), why did a sledge not occur to me!? grin
The 2010 winter, DS1 was still new, so we were basically housebound for the winter! (I dont drive). That will not happen again!!!!!!

Indith Sun 14-Oct-12 11:54:34

Oh no Lady! That means we probably didn't have them, I doubt we missed them we are in there twice a week. Unless dh did the shop that week sad

Oh well I'm looking at long term options at the moment- alpaca welly socks that are one size so will fit for years and child sized yaktrax, again will fit for years over whatever wellies they have. Could be expensive this year but since there is always some ice even if we don't have a harsh winter probably cheaper than buying snow boots each year.

I'm going to Lidl (Meadowfield) next weekend so I'll look in there. If they do I'll text you.

Dawndonna Sun 14-Oct-12 12:21:01

Sparkling ds agrees with you! Apparently the idea is to cover those that can't get there, but he says it's pretty rare, and if the people with keys can't get there, you're up the creek anyway!

Indith Sun 14-Oct-12 13:22:42

SPB thanks smile. I doubt you'd see anything we don't though, in Arnison one yesterday and Meadowfield at least once a week usually twice. I keep an eye on the website too. Ah well I expect we either didn't get them as it does vary from shop to shop or it was during a week when dh did a 5 min mad dash on the way home from rowing.

Jakadaal Sun 14-Oct-12 13:37:25

Snow?! really - thank god for that. I insisted on changing my car for 4X4 last year as we were snowed in for weeks the the year before. Did we get any snow last winter? not one snowflake and don't think I can bear hearing DH gloat 'oh that car is sooooooooo good in the snow' angry

JollyJackOLantern Sun 14-Oct-12 15:16:30

We had hail today.

I've created a thread for the potential for interesting weather mid week. Probably wont happen, but it may......

One of the models is showing it rather colder at the end of next week wink

TobyLerone Thu 18-Oct-12 07:58:54

GMTV just said Indian Summer next week. I'll believe it when I see it hmm

In India maybe! Over here we're stocking up on the de icer

Early next week, yes GFS is showing rather warm lovely temps esp in the south then it shows the temps plummeting at the weekend.

Plummeting??? Eeeeep! How low, kitten?

well... remember it is just one model and its a long way off! but at the moment it shows temps Sunday night in the -2 region around the welsh borders (but would prob be lower locally) and then away from the SW and also southern coasts temps in single figures.
However, it does seem to have been a)put back by a couple of days in this latest model run and b)not looking as cold as it was!
So, perhaps not too reliable then grin

lets look forward to next week if it comes off. I'm looking forward to it!

superb discussion on the different factors that will affect the winter in the US this year, all of which also apply to the uk.

Models are showing stronger signals for it to turn colder next weekend. At the moment I'd be prepared to wrap up warm for bonfire night!

EugenesAxe Sat 20-Oct-12 08:47:34

Hmmm. Positives about hard winter (and yes, read in papers they expect snow, possibly over Christmas):
Get to make the most of expensive baby fleece all-in-one I couldn't resist buying for DD.
DH may not be able to get into work.
Snow is fun.

Negatives about hard winter:
Christmas with PIL may be disrupted if travel hard.
May get stuck down with PIL (they are nice, but we are there 5 days already).
Won't be able to get any-bleeding-where.

I'm going to deal with it when it happens...

Agree with snow is fun. Plus I get all excited about the weather models. Then I feel guilty for being excited as I remember that for many people it causes hardship.

picnicbasketcase Sat 20-Oct-12 09:03:36

I do hope we have a snowy winter again, as long as the DC's school gives them a snow day every once in a while. Last time they stayed open the whole time so we couldn't go and make snowmen in the park and I was most put out.

*Disclaimer - Yes, I know the school did the right thing by working parents and the pupils really, but I have fond memories of listening to local radio for school closures as a child blush

JsOtherHalf Sun 21-Oct-12 09:01:15

Yaktrax size details We got lidl snowboots for ds last year, they are very good.

JsOtherHalf Sun 21-Oct-12 09:02:23

Yaktrax size details We got lidl snowboots for ds last year, they are very good.

I want a winter of my childhool (grey, drizzly, bit cold - you couldn't go out without a jumper grin) as opposed to the ones of my DCs' childhoods (they are 5 and 3 and so far it's been snow, snow, a bit more snow and a fair bit of -15.)

Indith Sun 21-Oct-12 09:18:46

Now surely your early childhood was like mine? I remember sledging every year in the woods then when we got older the snow just stopped and there was never enough sad

I spotted 2 remaining pairs of Lidl snowboots the other day which suggests that the week dh went to Lidl and came back telling me they didn't have the blender I wanted they did in fact have the snowboots instead which he knew I wanted but is too male to notice angry. I picked up the blender a couple of days later in the other Lidl which had blenders but no boots. Humph.

Oh well I have ordered them both baby alpaca welly socks so they will have lovely warm feet. Need to get more wellies though. Got myself some yaktrax, don't fancy slipping over with the baby in a sling.

Still looking for a colder period at the end of the week smile
And fog for many tomorrow. I love fog, it's been years since we've had any real pea soupers.

Fog locally is a bit pathetic grin
Probably just as well really.

Indith Mon 22-Oct-12 08:12:31

Plenty of fog here! And someone on my local FB group said snow is forecast for the weekend. Urgh. October snow will be slippery and slushy and horrible. I really need to do a proper slipper and welly roundup and try on! Hope my yaktrac arrive this week.

snow this weekend?!
Indith, I am maybe only remembering as I got older - I remember year after year of trying to make a snowman with an inch of snow...ah them were the days

where did you order yaktrax from BTW? Trazzle's link? I'm going to get some ordered

Trazzletoes Mon 22-Oct-12 08:49:56

You can get Yaktrax from one of those outdoorsy shops too... Can't remember which one. Not millets. Cotswolds? Is that even a shop?!

Trazzletoes Mon 22-Oct-12 08:50:41

Dear Yaktrax. If you are reading this, I would like to be on commission, please. TIA. Trazzle.

Trazzletoes Mon 22-Oct-12 08:52:27

SPBB do it! I was heavily pregnant over winter last year and was so so scared of falling. They really work brilliantly.

Natnat29 Mon 22-Oct-12 08:54:47

My OH will be a very happy man if it is a cold one being a gas engineer and we are expecting our first end of jan so he is putting in for any overtime he can get but I'll be worried what if its too snowy to get to the hosp (yes I am flapping about such situations already!)

I'm doing it grin FOund them on amazon - does anywhere do child ones? Wish I'd known about them during the really snowy few years when the DC were tiny - I fell over with DD in the sling sad

BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead Mon 22-Oct-12 09:00:05

I just ordered DS2 a snowsuit... Christmas temps of 30c now forecast by me grin

Indith Mon 22-Oct-12 09:48:15

I got mine off Amazon, just the walkers rather than the Pro ones as I'm unlikely to go running or anything in them unless we are running late for school. If you look at the yaktrax website they go into more detail on sizes and say the extra small walkers are ok from size 11/12 up so I am considering getting a pair of extra smalls and seeing how they fit over ds1's boots but my children are very small of foot so may not fit him this year. Not a waste of money though as they will just get used next year and the year after and the year after etc until thye need the adult ones.

Thanks smile dh is complicating the issue by saying pogus are better. Byt the end of today I will have ordered something!

Indith Mon 22-Oct-12 10:05:27

There are half a million devices. I spent ages reading reviews about things slipping off and studs coming off before I gave up and trusted the wisdom of MN grin. If you find anything that fits children on your travels then let me know smile

I still have your dd's pants by the way. I really should run them up to you.

And are you coming to the quiz? Am going to book Not that I need to book you the roast beef grin.

I'd do all that on the meet up thread but you keep abandoning it.

I still have your dd's socks grin
when is the quiz? Not been paying attention recently!

Indith Mon 22-Oct-12 10:27:56

This friday smile Foist the children on the grandparents and drag your dh down for a couple of beers! He and dh can talk rugby or something.

magentastardust Mon 22-Oct-12 16:10:12

Looking at the yaktrax but a few reviews say because of the design the wire end up cutting the rubber. I walk to school and back every day so need something that will last more than a couple of wears.
Anyone who has bought them found this or has everyone had good experiences with them. I am probably getting to wrapped up in this (wink) but after having some horrendous slippy winters up here in Scotland I am determined to be prepared this year!!

Indith Mon 22-Oct-12 16:22:21

I've seen that but the ttypes with studs all have some reviews saying the studs fall off so <<shrugs>> if they don't last the winter I'll be sending them back saying they are not fit for purpose and getting a refund [bolshy].

Trazzletoes Mon 22-Oct-12 16:50:21

magenta I've not had a problem.


the 2m temp graphs graphs show the probability that the 2m temp (which is the standard temp that gets reported by the met office) will be either near normal, above normal or below normal globally. Its not a forecast, just a probability map.

It shows that the model forecasts:
20% or less chance of our winter temps being above normal.
20-40% chance of them being near normal. (apart from Ireland which is below 20%)
60-80% chance of them being less than normal. (Ireland greater than 80% chance)

however if you look at the precip charts, they fall in favour of being drier than normal (40-60% chance)

Global sea temps are interesting too.

Ghouljamaflip Tue 23-Oct-12 13:25:58

Ooh - so if I've got this right then the 850hpa temp chart is indicating an increased risk of snow? (60-80% chance of lower than normal temp)

<disclaimer:- I know very little about forecasting and therefore am very dangerous>

Its certainly one aspect. 850hpa temps are temperatures at very approximately 1.5kms. high They are used for deducing the temperature of air masses (they dont tend to change much day and night as they are usually above the boundary layer)

so yes up there does generally need to be cold smile (below -5C or -7c is often quoted but it depends on the other conditions) but it also needs to be cold closer to the ground too (else it melts!) and of course we need the precipitation else its just cold and dry.

Indith Tue 23-Oct-12 13:42:54


Hear that? That's the sound of it all going over the top of my head.

I'm in weather heaven. BBC website has a headline saying Cold weather on the way with wintry flurries. sigh of delight

straighttohellymelly Tue 23-Oct-12 14:22:18

Just about to buy some yaktrax, but which style is best? The ones with the rubber that fit around the sole or the ones that also have a velcro bit over the top? (would be wearing with boots, (walking boots or Blundstones).

I went for the velcro ones. they are very good indeed!

As I said tak1ng - getting colder smile
the cold may not get cut off by a low by the way!


BeyondLimitsOfTheLivingDead Tue 23-Oct-12 19:39:26

I cant wait for it to get cold. Bought me a new practical coat as I'm walking loads with the pram, waterproof and fleece lined, then proceeded to lose my lightweight jacket anyway. So having to wear my new coat and I'm blooming melting at the mo!

JudeFawley Tue 23-Oct-12 19:52:29

I simply love snow days; I hope we get some this year.

I am eyeing up the wood burner from the corner of my eye. It's been too long, old friend.

Perhaps some wintry stuff for hilly northern areas over the next weeksmile

Are you excited kitten or is it it time to get excited yet?

Golly I'm a bad typist. Meant to say is it not time to get excited yet

Well, if I had ears that could prick up then they would be pricked up!

DuffyMoon Thu 25-Oct-12 13:06:46

didnt get any snow last year sad

Ghouljamaflip Thu 25-Oct-12 14:55:34

Just been out for a walk with the dogs and a couple of friends - the wind has def got a bite to it now.

We were planning our snow day pub visits grin

Any chance of needing to prick ears in the Cotswolds yet? please please please please please please

Just to clarify I'm not terribly excited about next weeks prospects (as I dont live in a hilly northern area!), tis more the winter to comes prospects!
Tis only just coming up to November, winter is yet to come!

First snow and ice warning from the met office grin

I do live in a hilly northern area. I am not impressed

Indith Thu 25-Oct-12 15:52:18


(quiz. tomorrow <<pokes SPB>>)

Ghouljamaflip Thu 25-Oct-12 16:05:22

oooh prospects..........sounds interesting! Care to enlighten us OYBBK?

Thanks Indith grin can I text you after seeing what dh thinks? I've barely seen him this week and he might not be impressed if I'm out again. Otoh hell probably just be glad of the chance to watch his awful action films that I don't like grin afraid leaving them with grandparents not an option this time, they're away most of next week.

this site jama plus taking into account that arctic sea ice has been at its record lowest this summer and sea surface temperatures in the northwest Atlantic are higher than normal, both of which could favour a colder than average winter for NW Europe, I do think our prospects are interesting.

However (and its a big however) I don't pretend to be able to forecast what will happen over a season. Even the met office with its millions of pounds and super computers cant do that with any accuracy and I'm only an amateur grin There are so many factors involved, so all I can do is look at things with interest and guess!

Rather a change outside this evening! Feels like we stepped from autumn to winter in just a few hours even though its not that cold yet.

digerd Thu 25-Oct-12 21:25:52

I noticed yesterday, that trees were losing their leaves already. It has been mild and wet, so I felt it was ominous - trees know more than we do, I believe.
We used to have an Autumn Colours open day at our local Manor House grounds, and was always on 29th October, which meant leaves still fully on trees. Can't remember during the last few years though. Perhaps it was all the rain that knocked the leaves off, not sure.
All will be revealed when it happens. Weather forecast not always right, but said Sunday will be much colder. Also the clocks going back too on Saturday/Sunday, making the evenings dark sooner which I don't like. At least for a short while it will be light at 7am!!!!!!!!

I did notice a big step change in the rate at which the leaves were falling yesterday. All of a sudden our garden is covered. Must do some reading up on what prompts the fall!

highriggs Thu 25-Oct-12 21:38:26

Gritters out tonight in Edinburgh , lovely big moon. Going to be cold

I am so glad you said that OYBBK. I swear the lawn was clear on Tuesday. Yesterday it was covered in leaves which I swept up and this morning covered again and the tree is nearly bare. It's like they all dropped off over 2 days. confused

LadyFlumpalot Thu 25-Oct-12 21:44:00

Kitten if it helps, my dad (before he retired) was a director at the Met Office, and has been a forecaster for 40 years. He reckons the same as you. smile

Blimey Ladyflumpalot, at least if I'm utterly off kilter on this then at least I have highly esteemed company! grin have send me an email with these wintery offerings today. It's a sign. sad

I'm keeping a bit of an eye. On next thurs/fri weather. Might start a thread on it this evening. GFS is showing quite a deep low which might bring stormy conditions to northern England and southern Scotland. More later....

Met office have updated their 3 month outlooks

Make of them what you will!

I would say that's a very inconclusive and non-committal show from the Met Office. Quelle surprise

Um I would say they don't really know. grin

Indith Fri 26-Oct-12 17:36:58

Well you can certainly feel the chill in the air tonight.

snow in lanchester earlier

GruesomewhereInCanada Fri 26-Oct-12 17:50:54

Be grateful you don't live here. Regularly down to -30 for most of winter, even lower with the wind chill. It's very dry though, so static is a nightmare. Most cars change to winter wheels and have auto start. Some have plug-in sump heaters. Bus shelters are heated too. I don't miss the damp chilly cold of the UK.

We get a couple of feet of snow but it's the wrong type for snowmen or snowballs sad

The worst sensation is your snot freezing ...

Oh I am, very grateful grin

LadyFlumpalot Fri 26-Oct-12 18:23:38

My friend tells me it was snowing in Gateshead this afternoon.

Indith Fri 26-Oct-12 19:00:05

glad i have snowboots etc all sorted now!

Canada your winters are tough but at least you have the set up for it. here it takes us by surprise every time hmm. Damp uk cold is horrible, i spent a winter in russia and a dry -30 was so much nicer that our damp, horrible -5 or so.

dh racing on the tyne tomorrow so it will definitely snow grin

Oooooh gritter just went past. Hope it doesn't snow til after I get back from dd's friend's party tomorrow, last time I did the bends into the village in the snow I ended up down the road to the football club after skidding.

yes I saw the gritter grin
Hoping it doesn't snow at all!!
Good luck tonight. I defintely won't be able to make it, DH has only just set off.

Indith Fri 26-Oct-12 19:04:50

snowing now!

JollyJackOLantern Fri 26-Oct-12 19:05:11

Snow on and off all day today. Still going now. Reckon it could be deep here tomorrow if it keeps up.

NE Scotland

GruesomewhereInCanada Fri 26-Oct-12 19:06:27

High of -3 here today. Winter definitely on the way.

Indith true, most people are set up for it but you do still get plenty of dickheads who forget how to drive when there's more than half an inch of snow on the road.

I'm still bemused by neighbours barbequeing and wearing shorts and flip flops when it's below zero.

Drive thru cash machines are handy though!

bah humbug!
Just shown the children and they've both asked to go out and play! NO, BEDTIME!

well Ive let them go out in their pyjamas and run around catching flakes in the dark. That'll do for one winter I think.

Indith Fri 26-Oct-12 19:11:39


ds1 said it would snow and he was right! He and dd were talking about what snowmen they would make this afternoon.

ChippingInLovesAutumn Fri 26-Oct-12 19:33:49

Sparkling - I kept meaning to take a photo of the beautiful tree across the road, when I went out yesterday I put a reminder on my phone for when I got home, except when I got home there were only a few forlorn leaves left!! In the morning it had been in all it's beautiful autumn splendor!! I was shockconfusedhmm... one of these days I'll learn not to procrastinate... but not today wink

OYBBK - sorry I didn't make it for coffee this week! Maybe next week if you are not too busy with half term stuff??

ChippingInLovesAutumn Fri 26-Oct-12 19:34:24

Oh - and it must be cold, I bought a coat today! I never normally wear one really!

It's so odd Chipping, my Mum is coming round with the leaf blowy sucky thing tomorrow. grin

we have an inch of snow this morning
Who's responsible for this angry

though DS is really excited smile I think that might be because he thinks snow=Christmas

aargh, it is too early to play outside kids!!

Indith Sat 27-Oct-12 08:37:48

Sorry grin

Mine have been out too, and we've had the christmas conversation.

Indith Sat 27-Oct-12 08:39:05

but I have mini marshmallows for my hot chocolate so its all ok.

Expect more snow around 2pm. That is when dh will sitting in a boat waiting for his start time getting very cold indeed. Snow is traditional.

TempusFunghi Sat 27-Oct-12 08:49:38

Can you translate that met office nonsense for me OYBBK?!

OhYouBigBadBeast Sat 27-Oct-12 10:05:40

Those charts show that it is a little more likely to be wetter than average rather than drier than average though its pretty much in the balance. It looks to be also somewhat more likely to be colder than average over the next 3 months.

OhYouBigBadBeast Sat 27-Oct-12 10:06:17

We had a snow shower a bit before 8am this morning. smile

Twitter is full of UK winter forecasts predicting a bitterly cold few months, starting with a cold snap in a week's time. Hype?

Meglet Sat 27-Oct-12 18:54:35

So, help me out with this (thicky day, the DC's have trashed my brain power)....

wetter and colder than average would equal lots of snow woudn't it?

OhYouBigBadBeast Sat 27-Oct-12 18:58:47

Maybe tak1ng, today's weather will have certainly fuelled things! I think things look to remain cool-cold, but mid month the temps seem to rise a bit (may well change)

TempusFunghi Sat 27-Oct-12 19:15:40

Thanks OYBBK! I had forgotten how damn cold, cold is! I have been lulled into a false sense of security by the mild weather!
Will be watching the forecasts with interest. I do like a bit of proper snow smile

OhYouBigBadBeast Sat 27-Oct-12 19:37:55

Me to. I do not like being cold! But I do like snow. Oh the dilemma!

trinn Sat 27-Oct-12 19:43:24

God hope not, I like snow falling when I have no where to go but hate it when it gets compacted and you spend most of the time sliding down hills on your arse

Join the discussion

Join the discussion

Registering is free, easy, and means you can join in the discussion, get discounts, win prizes and lots more.

Register now