To think that weaning with baby food from jars is fine?(174 Posts)
It's specially developed for babies right? So how come everyone is dead against it? I don't think 50p a jar is that expensive either. Baby led weaning ain't going to work for my twins. They choke alarmingly as soon as they bite a piece off anything. Pureeing stuff is a pain. So I'm doing jars.
Do some research. Try the jars yourself and see what you think.
Choking is silent - gagging is noisy. Babies gag when eating because their gag reflex is further forward in their mouth than in adults. It is a protective mechanism to prevent choking.
Could you make purées yourself? The nutritional content would be far higher than jars.
Personally, I liked to give mine home cooked food when they were babies, but each to their own...
Btw, get a little blender, takes two seconds to purée food.
You are allowed to do what you like. That's the joy of parenthood.
I think 50p is loads though.
Though pureeing is easy if you get one of those stick blender things.
But I used occasional jars.
You have to cook food before you purée it that's what takes the time.
Kenwood triblade and a big steamer. Less than an hour on a Sunday morning fed my DD for a week for about 20p a meal.
Each to their own, but I like knowing exactly what my DD is eating.
On the occasions I did have to give her ready meals (ie on planes) I gave her Ella's Kitchen rather than jars. Not sure they're any better, but the ingredient list was reassuring.
That's why I do BLW. We can all eat the same food so I don't have to waste time on purées.
I did a bit of both. Jars and home made.
I think this thread will go orbital quite soon.
I think the OP might be hoping it will anyway.
So what do you eat then joannita?
I did a mix of puree and some jars, they just seemed to be pretty basic foods you'd put in purees yourself, but a bit more bland.
Some people just like to feel smug and let everyone know they've put the elbow grease in by doing it themselves
I was always surprised by how many adults slavered over the jars if I whipped one out, I couldn't think of anything worse than pureed lamb and veg.
I must be naive pictish, because I can't imagine how anyone could work themselves up into a lather about jars of baby food.
<ignores the smug accusation I made in last post>
I did a mix. Before BLW was even a fantastic term it was just, giving the kid bits of crap off your plate. I'm not sure there is an acronym for that. If you want to use jars it isn't going to cause your kid to sprout three heads. But, a blender and some base veg will also do the same job and it's a tad cheaper. But either way, jars don't equate murder.
I will give you examples: breaded pork loin with salad and bread.
Chilli con carne.
Chicken and rice
sure, do what you want. no one cares what you do with your babies, except you. personally i wouldn't want to eat food that had such a long expiry date on it, though.
whizz 'em, jo. if you're not going to offer finger food yet, just whizz what you're having. (assuming you've made those from scratch, more or less).
add yogurt to the chilli and curry whizz.
I just think someone will be along shortly to tell us all how using jars is akin to poisoning your baby. Then someone else will strongly object to that pov. Then it will kick off.
Sorry for bare link.
Jars are full of empty starchy fillers and have poor nutritional content. The manufacturers priority is long shelf life rather than taste or nutrition. They taste pretty horrible too. It's really simple to just mash some of what you're having and give them that. Babies need to get used to lumpy food.
Both mine had pureed versions of whatever we had for dinner. I didn't cook with salt so they could have the same and if there were left-over's, they got pureed and frozen to use e.g. when we went out for dinner.
Both mine refused jars. The heating required to seal the jars and preserve the food pretty much kills off any nutrients.
Don't really want it to go orbital. Am genuinely curious as to why more mums don't choose the easy way! Also I have twins and a 3 y old which is hard work so I cut corners where I can!
There is tons of salt in our food. My husband is Spanish and they like lashings of it. Mil lives with us and does a lot of cooking and I can't imagine she is going to stop taking the salt and pouring it upside down into our food in a way that makes me wince! It tastes great though!
My dd wouldn't eat anything out of a jar. I tasted it and understood why. It is easier, but what's easist isn't often what's best. It's completely up to you though.
Wasn't there was a thread a while ago where the OP was hoiking at her friend for still feeding her 4/5 YO jars of baby food?
Or am I making that up/imagined/dreamt it?
it's because your definition of easy doesn't coincide with everyone else's. easy to me = blw aka handing them stuff off your plate that you're eating anyway.
easy to other people might equal whizzing what they're eating anyway.
to me... spending money on jars and opening them (and gagging slightly at the smell) and spoon-feeding two babies while making other food for a three year old seems hard.
but it doesn't to you, which is great, and we're lucky that we can all please ourselves with no need to post provocative threads about it, eh?
I am surprised about nutrients thing. I thought they were fortified with vitamins like breakfast cereal
oh well, if you're not going to change the salt thing then don't give the kids your food. it seems crackers to me, though. just salt at the table.
I never pureed a damn thing! Son weaned on baby rice and jars. He's now a healthy 16 yr old who'll eat anything.
But what do I know, that was the dark ages of 16 years ago convenience baby-raising. It's all feeding-nazis and thought police now. Wean from jars at your peril!!
did you read that alphamummy link? i would, ironically enough, take it with a pinch of salt because she's a bit of a snobby cah by her own admission, but in general the picture is Not Good.
The baby food jars do stink don't they?
I used a lot of jars for my oldest daughter. I was 21 when she was born, knew very few people with babies and dh and I kind of made our way through as best we could. Boots did a fab range at the time of 'continental meals' which I really enjoyed buying (very cute jars ). Their egg custard was a brilliant one to have in the changing bag for emergency food. For the other two I cooked a lot more and though dd3 was started on puree in exactly the same way as the others I was much bolder with giving her stuff to gnaw on than I had been with the other two (had heard of BLW by then ) If you looked now at my dds (aged between 15 and 6 today) I guarantee you would not be able to tell who had had more from a jar.
Babies need to be fed. If they are thriving you've done your job. Getting het up about the ins and outs of this is just stupid.
YANBU jars are fine and yes I've tasted them myself and agree they lack seasoning and are often a bit watery but hey-ho!
I find that my DD 1yo will enjoy a bit of slush (jar or homemade) and then a bit of a chew on something. She often has a bit of what DS is having.
I buy baby jars because I work full-time and don't always have the time to make the carefully balanced meals she needs.
pretty much all jarred stuff imo honks as you open it, though, the air that's been trapped at the top always stinks, must be the canning process.
I don't really think jars are easier than mashing up a bit of whatever we're having, plus I think the jars and pouches are way too smooth, even the lumpy ones. With exception of DD who was weaned when the advice was 4 months, I've never really made puree's just mashed up food.
I could eat happily eat Hipp's cocoa and vanilla dessert all day though
I'm just glad I'm past all that now.
I've never used jars with my DC. I want to know what I'm feeding them
even if they still turn their nose up at it.
If I wouldn't eat it, I sure ain't gonna feed it to my DC
oh yes, me too, pictish.
Spoon feeding is a total PITA. I would rather spend the time cooking a meal we can all eat.
Thanks for the replies its very interesting to hear so many different points of view. I'm off to bed now
Dh used to polish off any of the Boots lasagne that dd left The Dutch Apple compote was fab.
Gobbin - dd1 was 15 yesterday. Must have been the thing to do then. I can remember a lot of stress being laid on salt levels in adult food. I was always very conscious of that - I wonder of that's why we used jars? Because we were led to think them safer?
Feed your baby what suits you
Personally I wouldn't like no fresh food whatever in my diet. But that's me. And you are you.
They may be fortified with vitamins, but nutrients are rather more complex than vitamins. For example, there are few polyphenols in baby jars. This affects many things including but not restricted to gut microbes. Your gut microbes have an enormous influence on health.
I'm another who would only feed it to the DC. if I would eat it.
But I'm not bothered by what anyone else does tbh.
I would give DD the occasional jar or pouch when out and about, but never bought the ones with meat in... It doesn't seem right that meat can survive so long in a jar without refrigeration- not to mention i wasn't really sure of the grade of meat being used. DD wasn't introduced to meat though until about 12 months.
I spent hours preparing and freezing home cooked food from scratch for DD when she was a baby and she wouldn't eat any of it until had the idea of mixing it up with some of a the powdered baby food that you make up.
She had a tracheostomy so giving her lumpy food wasn't possible until she was older. The term BLW wasn't around and wouldn't have worked for DD as she was always very uninterested in food as a baby. As she was only on the 2nd centile I couldn't just leave it until she decided she really was hungry.
I think some of the smug mums on here probably don't realise how much extra work looking after twins is, especially if you have a three year old as well.
Where are the smug mums? I can't see any here.
I would have used jars only ds1 wouldn't eat them. I have now discovered that i was doing BLW (I thought I was shoving a variety of food on his high chair tray).
Jars, powdered food, BLW, who cares. As long as your baby gets enough to eat (and watch that he/she gets enough iron either through breast milk or formula) he/she will be fine.
I don't know any teenagers who can't eat lumps.
I don't know any teenagers who have stunted growth due to lack of nutrients.
Twins and a three year old = hard work. Don't make it harder (though as they get older it would be a good idea not to add salt to your cooking, feed it to all your children, and only add extra salt for yourself at the table).
I used the odd jar. Mainly batch cooked and froze stuff. Did three different meals at once, then had several to choose from, didn't take all that long.
I didn't like not knowing what DS was eating, really.
BLW was the easiest thing to do. Next time I won't bother with spoon feeding fuss at all.
Though... You say you don't want the fuss of cooking for your twins, and say your MIL puts loads of salt into the food. So what does your three year old eat?
My DD would not eat the food i made at all for 6 months so I gave her jars, i had to warm the jar up and pour it into the dish infront of her to prove it wasnt anything i made or she wouldn't even open her mouth. They do work out expensive, but i didnt have a choice. They are easier, and they cant be bad for them or they wouldnt sell them, plus i had them as a baby and im fine!
3 y O a terrible eater. There is nothing I can guarantee he will eat. But he doesn't eat her cooking apart from occasionally dipping bread in sauces. Thats not because i dont let him but because he turns his noseup. He likes sausages, broccoli, pasta, ( but won't eat the meat in spaghetti Bol ), tomato soup, cheese on toast, salad stuff, chicken. Before you suggest that it's my fault for making him fussy because I fed him jars when he was a baby, ( i did quite a bit of blw with him because he could handle it more and i didn't have mil breathing down my neck) ithink its got a lot more to do with attention seeking. He eats all kinds at nursery including fish soup and bulgar wheat. Right now he's away for the weekend with my husband and is eating like a horse'! It's hard for him to get his nose pushed out by two babies. And it's hard for us to give him attention. I can't force him to eat so I try to reward him with a dessert I know he will like as long as he eats main course etc. to be honest this is a whole new post! It's been doing my head in! Mil is convinced his growth is stunted by 6 cm because that's what they told her when she took him
To be measured in Spain! I don't agree. I sound like I'm
Moaning about her but she is great these are a couple of foibles but she's a wonderful person and is helping my kids and us so much!
I wouldnt give my dd jars, especially anything made with meat. And I always wondered who buys pureed bananas, seriously, it is that much more effort to buy a banana and mash it, than it is to buy a jar of banana with persevatives.
I fed dd1 homemade purees, dd2 we are doing BLW - so much easier.
Bananas go yuk if you're out and about. So a jar of something banana-y can make sense, if banana's a taste your DC likes. (Isn't that obvious?)
Lots of judging here. OP, do what works best for you and your family. I was mostly of the cook-and-puree persuasion when I started weaning DC1, but I enjoy cooking and messing about in the kitchen. I used jars from time to time with no hesitation, and DD is healthy and eats everything now.
I read comments about spoon-feeding being a PITA and all children learning to chew lumps etc, and I wince. My DC2 is 6 and severely disabled - we will be spoon-feeding her for ever. And she can't manage anything lumpy, so I will be pureeing forever too. Just as well none of you 'spoon-feeding is a pain' types have a child like mine, then.
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I did mostly the mashing up of whatever we were eating, or just boiled a pan of random veg if what we had wasn't suitable. There was one jar of stuff I did use though. Can't remember the bloody name of it now, I only ever saw it in one chemist and used to bulk buy it.
It was a malted creamy jar of what looked like creme brûlée - I think Hipp or Nuk? I only ever saw it in Germany. You have it as a 'supper' meal before bedtime and it was supposed to help sleep. There was a picture of a moon and stars on the jar. It tasted like Horlicks but set yoghurt style.
It used to knock DD out within about 40 mins of her having it, for about 5 hours. I don't know if it was a 'mummy placebo' - probably. But I was gutted when we moved back to UK and I couldn't find it here. I think I would have sold my soul to the devil sometimes just to get a jar of it!
I'm feeding my baby what me and DH eat and I don't feel smug about it, i wouldn't eat those jars and if anything BLW is the lazy approach
On a serious note, that link was scary stuff. It's alarming how consumers can be treated so poorly.
I'm not so bothered about what goes in to jars.
I have reservations about the fact that the texture of processed baby food can sometimes make the transition to home cooked food difficult if babies are completely weaned on jars. Manufacturers make baby food bizarrely smooth, and when lumps are introduced they are oddly smooth and uniform. This is to reduce the risk of the manufacturers getting sued for babies choking on lumps.
Gizza, I'm laughing at the "BLW babies don't seem to eat a lot".
DD is 13 months and consistently on the 95 percentile both for weight and height. She loves eating and these days very little food gets tossed (shed be horrified at the waste )
she will use a preloaded spoon, in fact most BLW babies seem to have no problem manipulating things. Must be all the practice with scoffing food!
I did mix of home purée, pouches and blw or more commonly known as food (so flaming pretentious that term isn't it?!). Dunno what's hard really. U have to feed elder child don't u? How hards it to whizz left over up or mash it with fork?
Jars are just rank. Have u sniffed one? Cat vomit in pot.
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I didn't use jars of smooth, gloppy, brownish slop because the very thought of them makes the gag.
It was all about me - my disgust isn't about how healthy, or otherwise, they might be. I'm basically just disgusted by them.
In fact I find puréed food pretty vile, so I seized on BLW to give myself an excuse to avoid it.
In reality I found it of mixed use and did use some purées with my babies in the early days.
But jars was a step too far. I don't know why.
If your MIL's cooking is so salty as to be inedible by your younger DC, it's unsurprising that your 3yo won't eat it yet eats well elsewhere!
Puréed salad? Puréed sausage? Stir fry? A lot of things would be rank when puréed.
Blw is all very well if your child can handle it. I heard all about how they are gagging not choking from health visitors but 2 babies gagging quite severely at the same time on a regular basis is scary for us and unpleasant for them. I don't like it and I'm not exaggerating about the frequency or severity. I give them a piece of bread or a risk to hold sometimes or let them try what having. But they can't cope with more for now.
You do what's right for you . Nothing wrong with Using jars. I mostly pureed mashed and used jars also esp when out . Never thought there was anything disgusting about jars.
I don't think jar food is vile - it depends which ones you choose. I tried a Cow and Gate one and it was pretty awful, but the Hipp ones were perfectly fine. I used them, and did home made and did BLW (by which I mean I gave them toast and bits and pieces) - with DD (DC2) I don't remember really weaning her as such, just gradually gave her bits and pieces of things and gradually they replaced milk. I didn't have a plan or a strategy of introducing x food at x point and so many new things per week or whatever.
Do what you want; they're your children BUT 50p per jar for twins?! How many jars are they eating a day? That is so expensive! Do you even feed them fresh fruit for pudding?
I'd assume blw would work better for twins as it would mean less work for you. Do you cook from scratch normally? Also gagging is a completely normal thing in weaning babies. You're supposed to let them do it so they learn how to swallow properly. I don't understand what you're saying, that baby jars prevent gagging? . You should be handing them a bit of apple or pear so they use their gagging reflex. I've seen children live on puréed jar foods and feeding them becomes harder as they get older to toddler age.
I also don't get the "I wouldn't eat so why would my baby?" comments. They wouldn't drink wine, or do a crossword, or want to watch Question Time but that doesn't mean we can't. Many tastes are commonly developed later in life, coffee, blue cheese etc and we lose the taste of stuff like jam or peanut butter or haribo (am generalising here obviously),
I am not against jars at all. I know that many of us were weaned on them so they can't be too bad.
I would ignore the judgy posts from parents of babies who are easy to feed. Not all babies are the same. I struggled to get DD to eat anything at all some days and, as she was so little and skinny, I was desperate to get some nutrition into her so sometimes I took the "easy" route.
At 12 she now likes a wide range of foods and isn't little and skinny any more.
Just feeding dd Heinz oat and breakfast cereal. It's really nice. I would eat it. Powdered not jar.
I also don't get the "I wouldn't eat so why would my baby?" comments.
Would you eat ready made meals everyday? Would you eat them puréed? I wouldn't. Neither should your baby.
The comment about "it's cooking the food that takes the time" sounds odd - you do realise that you will have to cook food for the family at some point, right?
My son's first food was a finger of buttered toast when he was 7 months old. Screamed at the sight of a spoon with gloop on it. It wasn't my preference it was his.
The only critique I'd have is any preservatives (that I genuinely don't eat myself, that's not me being pfb) and the cost. 50p a jar may not seem a lot in isolation, but when I saw how many vegetables I could buy for an entire day's worth of jarred food, it just made no sense.
Cooking food and pureeing it each time is a pain, yes. But it really doesn't take long per meal to cook a huge batch of food, puree & freeze. You could have a fortnight's worth of meals in the freezer and it's the work of seconds to defrost and heat up in a microwave...
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I actually think this thread has gone pretty well really. The OP has had views for both sides and no-one has been too rude to her.
I did mostly jars with DD aged 4. I started off making my own puree bt she wasn't keen, so I switched over to jars after a couple of weeks. She loved them, mainly C&G IIRC! We moved fairly quickly through the stages onto the lumpier ones and added plenty of finger foods early on. She has no problems eating most things now.
I certainly understand why a Mum with twins and a 3 yeard old would try to make their life a little easier (what they felt would easier).
Until he was one, DS would not it gag on any bit of food he tried that was lumpy or bitten off, he would then projectile vomit. And I would have to feed him all over again, hoping he didn't gag and vomit it back up again. When you're on the third time of feeding them dinner/cleaning up sick, you'll do whatever it takes to get food into them. And I didn't start with smooth purees, we did a mix of the odd bit of puree and loads of finger food from day one. So it wasn't that only feeding him purees had caused it, he just wasn't very adept at eating. He's figured it out now, but I do use those toddler meals occasionally when I can't be arsed and we only want to eat cereal for dinner.
The "if I wouldn't eat it" rule doesn't work for me.
I am a grown up who was a very picky eater as a child and still bears some of the scars. There are some healthy foods I won't eat, but I want my children to eat them.
Root vegetables (mashed ones in particular - boak) are an example.
It will be fine. I was weaned exclusively on food jars and I am fine, eat normally and am a healthy weight. My dd has had a mixture of pouches and home-cooked, and eaten both with relish. And I think some of the pouches (I'm thinking Plum beef and bean stew in particular, or their chicken and lemon one) taste lush! I always try them first, wouldn't feed them otherwise. Also how expensive they are is subjective - I wouldn't find that a lot to spend, so if you don't either that's fine. Haven't followed the link to alphamum up thread as the last thing of her's I read, about breastfeeding, was horrendously judgemental and unkind, as well as containing laughable leaps of logic, and it made me livid. I actually suspected she was an assumed persona satirising the views she seems to promote - is that not the case?
I can totally understand you wanting to cut corners, Twins take up so much time, but IMO food/nutrition is not the place to do it.
I did nanny (intensive job 24/5) baby twins and the fussiest 5 year old in the world. While the twins had their afternoon nap I would make up a big batch of food and then wizz it up, divide it up into ice cube trays and tubs. Once I got a routine going I only had to do this once or twice a week.
The trouble with powdered baby breakfast cereal is the sugar content. Theyre usually 30-40% sugar it makes the child want to eat it but its hardly healthy
You see my kids don't have structured naps none of them. They are rarely asleep at the same time
You have a 3yo and twin babies, wow! I say do whatever makes your life easier.
DD1 was weaned on lovingly homemade purees- she is still fussy as anything at age 5.
DD2 was weaned on a mixture of pouches and mashed up versions of whatever we were eating. She did, and still does now age 3, eat anything and everything!
Btw I don't think pouches are 'better' than the jars, that's just marketing crap. But they are easier to carry about in your bag, and you can squeeze them straight onto a spoon.
Blinking eck u are right about the sugar in the cereal! 29.4 g per 100g in Heinz! Cow and gate is better but that stuff is grim and mostly air. Oh dear no wonder its so nice!
Oh and both mine went straight onto weetabix or readybrek, baby cereal is a con!
I don't think 50p a jar is that expensive
Hmmm. I paid £1 for a butternut squash yesterday. I roasted it, the pureed it. Half has gone into the freezer as is..the other half we made Cod, Butternut Squash and Cheese Sauce. Lovely recipe. Tasted bloody gorgeous. That too was then frozen into individual portions.
The cod was left over from our tea.
I think there are about 20 + meals in the freezer now.
Freezer also has frozen sweet potato in there currently.
Breakfast this morning was half a melon whizzed with a banana. Small portion given to DD. The rest was for me as a smoothy.
Personally, I wouldn't feed DD jars. However, it's your call. I see them the same way I see ready made meals. Expensive, convenient and full of
It really didn't take very long. The trick is to batch cook and then freeze. You need a good freezer tray for the portions (mine is OXO one and it's ace) and then you just pop out of the tray and put into a big freezer bag so you can take out whenever. The night before I defrost what I need for the next day.
Jars taste, look and smell bloody awful imo.
Why not just add the salt at the table rather than to the pot. You're going to have to start cooking for all 3 at some point eventually.
My eldest 2 (14 and 16) mainly jars, dd 2 mainly purée and dd3 BLW. As long as they're fed who cares!
Hmm I viewed jars as ready meals which on a daily basis I wouldn't serve to my dc either.
When I weaned my twins I cooked my own for the week on a Sunday night and froze,just used jars if we ran out and on holiday.
There was a cancer scare back then re the lids and after tasting one I realised how foul they are.They taste of zilch and the vitamin content must be low.They cost waaaay too much for me with twins too.
I think if you look what is on each jar/packet then you can make a decision on each case. Wrt your mil cooking how about taking some bits out before the sauce is added? You could thin with some baby stock (this is NOT stock made from babies). Or what I did was make a batch in one go and put it in the freezer, then it only take a minute or so extra to heat up than a jar.
I used jars sometimes, I used baby cereal, rusks (or risks )
I can't imagine having 2 to deal with along side my dd so whatever keeps you sane.
Re not salting while cooking mil says meatballs cannot be salted at table they have to have salt running through them or they will be bland. Bland is the biggest insult to Spanish food!
Organix Wholegrain Banana and Raisin Oat Porridge (it's a 7m+ one) is bloody delicious. I ate more of it than DD.
DS1 and DD1 were both weaned on powdered baby foods. I was 15 and 18 when I had them and just did what my mother thought was best, but I remember thinking at the time that removing moisture to preserve food was preferable to adding preservatives IYSWIM? I have no idea if I was correct but they loved it and are no worse off for it. I remember a particular broccoli cheese meal that stank of sweaty feet. They adored it.
DD2 was easiest to wean, she literally ate what we did from day one, I had 3 under 5 at that point and even warming up a jar or mixing cereal took too long for me. So accidental BLW occurred as I just plonked whatever we had in front of her.
By DD3 I suffered awfully from anxiety that focused on choking, so I used pouches as they were smoother than anything I could make myself. I tried finger foods but had a panic attack each time she gagged so pouches it was, and she's fine.
I think the pouches are different from jars as they are pasteurised to preserve them rather than chemically preserved. Which kills nutrients obviously, but still in my brain felt better than actual preservatives.
In the middle of weaning DS2 now and he mostly eats what we do with the odd pouch thrown in.
You can't tell which of my DC were weaned which way, although out of all 5 my only fussy eater is the one I accidentally baby led weaned. Go figure!
I used a mix of both.
Jars for DS1 as they were far more imaginative than anything I could produce - although my mum had just died and MIL could be a bit of a helpful force.
For DS2 I mainly did my own food. It was far easier to batch cook once a week and blend.
Mind you my life was to short to dice, so I did cheat and used small grain rice and baby pasta to put the lumps in when texture was required.
I remember MIL saying "Well, if you can't feed him properly (ie Heinz) at least you are filling him up"
This from the woman who thought three bananas would kill you
You are all more organised than me with this freezing in advance thing. I will be going back to work with 2 jobs soon! But mil is up for making some purees. I guess we will combine that an the odd jar. And a bit of blw. Will see how it goes. Thanks for opinions! Now I know what's behind disapproving glances at checkout!
Lol at baby stock is not made from babies!
I'd say do what is most convenient for you. Babyfood jars won't kill your children and in the grand scheme of things they won't be eating them for long until they start eating your food.
Ella's Kitchen do a nice range if you put off by the jars
I wouldn't tbh unless an emergency, the baby jars seem so fake, too much colouring etc. I made my own and puréed it and when old enough they basically had what we had by crushed a bit. I even make some extra in tiny containers to freeze for the baby in case of emergency. We are having take away r something. I liked Ella's kitchen food always seem more natural than te usual ones but they are pricey
I've been using puree and offering some finger foods. Not found it that hard. Mango, banana, avocado don't need cooking. The recipes all make a few portions and taste yummy!
Not a fan of Ella and her kitchen! May not have refined sugar in but some of it is hyper sweet. Also v expensive
I'm Spanish. I don't use salt. My twins were weaned on Albondigas, Potaje Patatas Bravas, Torta potata when old enough for eggs. I had a two year old and twins. Just whizzed up what we were having. Compota de Manzana take a couple of minutes in the microwave.
You know te answer make your own it's not as hard as it sounds and you can freeze loads
You do what is best for you. PFB I would never have given jars to, along comes DD2 and out came the Ella's Kitchen - with a 2 year old I just didn't have the same amount of time, energy blah blah blah. And DD2 survived !
I bought loads of Hipp and Ella's and I didn't notice all these disapproving glances at the checkout, which is surprising as I'm not a very thick-skinned person...
Tbh, I think these might be the same imaginary disapproving glances that FF mothers talk about
I do Ella's kitchen pouches and home made.
Seriously, have you tried the jars, they taste shite.
It is a lot harder when its basically someone else's kitchen as here. Much as i love my mum and dad they are a bit stuck in their ways so yes food there has copious amounts of salt added so not suitable for my dd4. I used ella kitchen touches when there and cook at home but batch cooking never worked for me as we simply wouldn't get through 30 portions of mashed sweet potato. I found mine moved so quickly through weaning that the only effective way was to mash what she could eat of ours and if say a sauce was unsuitable i could make a small potion of a cheese sauce in seconds instead.
I have nothing against jars i just don't find them practical, too big if just introducing foods, too small if its a meal and you get stuck into thinking this is how much they should eat but ask yourself would you eat convenience food every meal.
Yes I have tried the jars a bit bland but not gross. But I eat anything.
DS has both jars and homemade food. Jars are convenient, I only give him the pasta ones, and they don't taste too bad. The rest of the time he has normal food with us, or left overs mashed up a bit.
I did BLW and make all my DD's food from scratch.
But I have a single solitary baby. You have a three year old AND twins. Feed 'em whatever's easiest for you, and hats off to you Missus for remaining vaguely sane in the process!
This thread is full of metaphorical disapproving glances and it's so rude. Why not save your ire for parents who feed four month old babies mashed spuds and adult gravy?
I liked the Plum porridge with dd3 btw but found Ellas Kitchen too runny. Perhaps it's better now?
I used jars sometimes, but mainly just blended what we were having! Couldn't do blw as DS was prem, sometimes jars were easier. I preferred to give him home made stuff as I really wanted him to get used to a lot of different flavours - we're quite adventurous with food and I desperately didn't want a picky kid, the jars all tasted pretty much the same! He's 18mo now, the occasional jars did him no harm, and he eats absolutely EVERYTHING. Job done, but whoever said earlier that no one really cares how you feed your DCs but you was right!
I weaned my DD on baby rice and fresh pureed organic veggies (my dad has an allotment - it was cheapness not smugness ).
Once she'd got the hang of more solid food I used a mixture - usually porridge with fresh fruit for breakfast, one jar meal and 1 fresh one i.e. potato with cheese and broccoli or baked beans.
I didn't find it much of a faff to cook 2 or 3 different veg, purée and freeze them - about an hour once a week - but I only had one baby!
Weaning on jars is not going to do them any harm, but I would try and get some fresh fruit and veg in there too.
DS2 ate a guinea pig poo the other day. DD2 once drank a puddle at a bus stop through a manky MacDonalds straw. I could go on, but point being there ain't nothing I could spoon from a jar that would horrify me as much as some of the things they put in their own mouths.
NorthernLurker, I disagree. I see a thread full of people giving their solicited opinions.
Standing at a checkout with jars/bringing out a bottle is not soliciting an opinion and I think it is vanishingly rare that people express themselves by means of these disapproving looks.
I have twins too. We did BLW. Easy.
They never had a jar. I tasted what was in one once that my cousin was eating. Foul.
So how come everyone is dead against it?
The OP asked!
The standards of hygiene and testing for harmful pesticides and chemicals, other nasties and food poisoning bugs is very very very high in UK baby food manufacturers (saw a programme about it once).
I know that the hygiene standards in my kitchen, while good, are going to fall well short of those high standards. So I think jars of babyfood are probably safer.
Phyllis most parents I know have high standards of hygiene when preparing food for their kids and families,even more so re baby food.
I chose hipp jars for my DS, together with finger foods, mashed fruit etc. because I didn't think he should have the same every day, which if I made a batch and froze for the week he would of? Bit pfb maybe but I want variety myself and wanted him too...he eats anything now at 13m so it's done him no harm
And agree with the choking thing, had a few close calls...pulling him out his high chair over my knee etc. its very scary, blw was not for us...no way I would do it with twins who choked like my DS
It's specially developed for babies right?
Not really. Certainly not in the way that formula has been specially developed to replicate breast milk. When DS was small, they struck me as an expensive way of buying cornflour (which seemed to be the main ingredient) but the main advantage they have, apart from convenience, over one's own cooking is the low salt content.
Honestly though, if they suit you and your twins, just go for it. Really don't worry about others' pious attitude to pureeing their own homemade food. In my case, DS wasn't keen on either, so BLW was the way to go (though it didn't have such a fancy name in those days).
Yes I asked and I knew I would get a variety of replies and that people on mn would tell it to me straight whereas friends don't want to offend. So I'm not offended by posts from people who disagree with me. I've also learnt some stuff I didn't know. I have to log off now. Following this thread has been quite addictive but I'm being antisocial towards babies and mil which is kind of counter-productive! Thank you for your opinions!
I'm not being smug but I genuinely don't understand why people choose to give their babies no fresh food (unless they're astronauts). My DCs have a dreadful diet but do have regular fresh food. It seems to be the people who wean on jars that end up giving their children organic only fresh everything when they're a bit older though, IMO.
Phylis, do you really think your baby is going to get ill from eatng food prepared in your own kitchen, by you or your OH?
Genuine question - does the five a day thing not apply to bbies? It's generally accepted that a good diet contains lots if fresh fruit and vegetables, and is low on processed food. Yet for babies, the opposite seems to e accepted.
My Dsis only fed her DD jars, she is now 2 & really fussy, only eats processed crap, cheese, & occasional bit of fruit. She fell below her growth line & is like a little bird. I gave my DD fruit puree from jars until the 'fork mash' stage, then started making it myself, now she eats everything we give her & has much more varied diet than her cousin. It's mostly a cost issue for me as my DD eats lots so jars would cost us a fortune. I am lucky though as we have a larder fridge & freezer, I couldn't do tiny batches every day.
I didn't use jars because they reminded me of school dinners. DD never really took to the texture of purée and didn't have the coordination for BLW in the beginning so it was a bit of a battle to get her to eat anything until she was around 9 months old...
When my twins were weaned, their brothers were 2 and 6. They were all given the same food. It was easy.
Purée would have been a complete faff for me as would have been having to spoon feed two babies each and every meal time.
But what worked for us, ain't everyone's bag. Do what keeps you sane.
Phylis, that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here! You won't harm your baby by feeding them food made in your kitchen. I assume you wash all your fruit and vegetables and wash all your kitchen work tops and utensils everyday with detergent or anti bac sprays? If you don't, then you have something to worry about.
I wouldn't use jars personally. I think they r vile and can't be good for you even the nutrients have to be added back in. But that's me. I'm very careful about what I feed my children I prefer to know what they r eating. After all when they are in uni leaving off pizza and beer they are going to need all the help they can get to stay healthy. Fresh home cooked healthy food is the best gift you can give them.
But it's up to the parent. My views r just that. My views and its not Up to me to tell anyone how to feed their children. Do what u see fit op
The ingredients in Baby Organix, Hipp and Cow & Gate didn't seem at all bad back in 2001. I assume they've not got any worse. Some of them didn't taste that awful either.
Still a bit miserable to never eat anything fresh though so I wouldn't only give jars. It doesn't take long to scramble an egg and butter a little bread, or mash a banana.
I have used jars. I used to like to 'stock up' on all those organic ones.
But I mostly made my own. I enjoyed it. Even by DC 5 I still found it pretty easy to fit it in. I liked to know what I was putting in.
I still bought organic fruit jars though. Buying organic apples and cooking the m down to a puree is a faff and works out more expensive IMO.
I was skint with most of my babies so it didn't work out expensive to make my own food.
I don't look down on jar feeders. No more than I do on FF or anything else perfectly acceptable.
I was ironically judged for making my own organic baby food on several occasions. By HVs who couldn't disguise their utter shock that someone like me would do it.
When I say shock I mean it. What did I think I would be giving them? Mashed up Whoppers? Actually don't answer that, I think that is exactly what they thought
I tasted some baby jars and thought they tasted vile, the fruit ones tasted o.k. Though.
So I used fruit jars but did the savoury ones myself.
Problem was, the refused the jars whenever I tried them (on trips) after having fed them home made stuff...rod for my own back!
Jars are fine, but home made food is just nicer, same as with adult fod really.
My sister used to spend one morning a week, boiling, mashing and pureeing things and would then freeze them all in ice cube trays.
Ready made baby food, with little effort.
Mine just got a bowl of what we were eating plonked in front of them [lazy]
My children are far less fussy than hers. Hers looked appalled when I tried to feed them a plum. (anecdotal, I know but she has four kids and they're all fussy eaters)
I think do whatever you want OP, it's hardly a crime and no one will tell the difference between your baby and one raised on organically grown, hand picked, boiled with spring water purées.
Having said that, I am a bit bemused as to simply why you thinknots so much effort to steam a head of broccoli and purée it with a stick bender. I know you're busy with twins and feel you have no time. But genuinely, in the time it's taken you to write the posts on here, notwithstanding reading the replies, you could have made up a whole batch of stuff. Honestly.
I may be talking out of my bottom here but am I right in imagining that if MIL does a lot of cooking that you're not that confident in the kitchen? In which case I can see how it must seem like a mammoth task. But I'd suggest you tried it, just a couple of times, if it takes too long, fine, you've tried. But it'd take you 30 seconds to peel a carrot, another 30 seconds to chop it, pop it in a pan to steam with a splash of boiling water and unsalted butter if you like, leave it on the hob while you play/ feed the babies their breakfast/ have a coffee or whatever, then whizz it for 10 seconds at the end. Done. Or peel and chop and apple, tiny splash of water, into a bowl with a lid on, microwave for 1 min, mash. This will take less time than your baby porridge!
As I said, do whatever you find best, I blw only because I found if easier for me, if i'd found purées easier you can bet I'd have done them as I like whatever requires the least effort on my part ;) The only thing I would suggest though is to drop the other baby stuff like a hot potato eg the baby porridge... So full of sugar! Get the plain porridge oat sachets, one sachet will be a great amount between 2 babies. otherwise I really do think you're setting yourself up for a bit of a problem in the future as they'll be so used to sugary tastes.
Gosh I had a lot to say on that matter
I think the main worry is that jars of the same thing all taste the same. Babies don't get used to natural variation in color and texture. But that can be avoided by using fresh stuff along side. Steamed veg make great finger foods and everyone cooks veg for their tea.
Just to clarify re the term BLW, quite a few people have said it's just finger food or normal food or whatever. It isn't, really... at least it's more like giving them only finger food. Obv a spot of mash here and there isn't the biggest deal, but BLW is expressly about letting the babies self-feed from six months and the parents keeping their noses out for the most part.
I mean, do it or don't do it, whatever makes you happy, mix whatever you like, but there's no point dissing the terminology if you're simultaneously demonstrating that you don't understand it.
Phylis, are you going to move your DC onto ready meals when they're too old for jars? And it was only last year one brand was recalled, and the year before another... One of them had glass in it.
My kitchen might not be pristine at all times, but I can be sure as hell that the worst 'extra' DS's food has ever had in it is probably the odd hair that has fallen off one of our heads when preparing.
Jars taste gross, and they stain bowls / spoons. If they have that affect on plastic, think about what they do to insides. Bleugh. Like I said, I used them on and off, but I won't next time.
Homemade carrot soup, tomato based sauces and anything with turmeric stains plastic. It's not really an indication of something being nasty.
I don't think they're brilliant all day, every day but they can be useful.
DH and I feel that doing BLW was one of the best parenting decisions we made so far, but horses for courses.
Tell you what pisses me off; these jars are already full of water (main ingredient in most cases), fall below the appropriate nutritional values and are expensive and on top of that those fuckers from Cow & Gate and Heinz still feel the need to add bulking agents to increase their profit margin. So essentially the babies are eating traces of real food. Fuckers!
No one has answered my question about 5 a day, would really like to know whether it applies to babies in the same way. People do differnt things but no one else seems bothered that babes fed only jars never get fresh food.
I used lots of jars with my ds but mainly for the main meal of the day alongside fresh foods. As we're vegetarian we gave him the vegetarian jars only.
Dunno, Stealth. I imagine you'd want to be careful of filling them up on vegetables, leaving them too full for milk and energy rich foods.
Cat food comes in handy pouches, much easier to prepare, though its more expensive than jars of baby food.
Stealth as I understand it, (though take with a pinch of salt as it's repeated from my not great in other aspects HV) no. They need protein, fat etc and its only web they cut way down on their milk to a couple of bottles/ large daytime bfs a day that they start needing a varied mix of fruit and veg, one portion being their palm size.
Besides Stealth, the five a day rule doesn't mean five different fresh fruit or veg portions, it means five different fruit or veg portions! Hence how tinned baked beans, dried fruit and frozen veg all count as one. Since DS moved into a mainly (and now entirely) solid diet I've made sure he has at least his five a day, usually more. So far today he's had half a banana, some sultanas and some dried apple, so he's already had 3!
Thanks doyonis, I wondered if it was something like that.
Good point about it not being necessarily fresh but you're right, although beans are pulses but its maybe the tomato sauce? Am just surprised that the fact all the food is not fresh isn't more of an issue for more people.
I don't see why people say 'baby led weaning' as isn't it just weaning?
I let my son eat with hands or I fed him with a spoon depending on what he was having. I dont understand the BLW title
My son had jars and home made stuff. Doesn't matter what you decide. Its up to you
Bow isn't about just giving finger food. It's about completely letting your baby self feed and trusting them to get what they need, whether that is nothing or just broccolli. Within reason of course. I don't think their choice is supposed to be kit Kat, cadburys creme egg or big Mac
When I couldn't be arsed feeding him I let him loose with a spoon so he ended up covered. Did I technically BLW?
He once picked up a tub of chilli and drank a little!
We have moved this to our weaning topic
what was his reaction?
My DD (18 mo) gagged on EVERYTHING - even Calpol - for a long time and took miniscule amounts from a spoon. She still does not like being spoon fed. I used to put her food on the tray and let her get on with it, everything from mashed potato and steamed veg sticks to long thin slices of ham etc. Egg is a great one as you can add cheese and it is easy to pick up (as omlette) and chew with or without teeth.
Because of the spoon refusal I thought for ages she was a fussy eater but now I know she is a great eater as long as she is able to eat it in the way she prefers, and it is a bonus as she is keen to use spoons and forks to feed herself.
Stealth he pulled a face and did it again! He loves spicy food it seems. Didn't enjoy the nappy though after! He uses chilli sauce as a dip now and again now hes 3.
SPsYoni. in the broadest possible terms, weaning is you getting involved or not involved to your preference, so, sometimes finger food, sometimes spoon-fed puree, whatever. That's just normal parenting.
By contrast, BLW is you keeping your nose out, and letting them do it all.
It's really not a great term, most definitely. I think Baby Self-Feeding would have been better but that ship has sailed and BLW it is. However, what it describes is self-feeding, and if the baby is feeding themselves puree on a spoon it's still self-feeding. The key thing is not the food, it's the fact that the baby is doing it by themselves.
I fed my pfb ds twins mostly from jars and later my dd mostly home made - I think both is fine. Do whatever works.
I have never given DD any jars. I don't eat my dinner from a jar. All home cooked here :-)
We make DS lots of our own food. Batch cook fruit purée for breakfasts, fish/ cottage pies, pasta sauces etc. Offer fresh fruit and veg day for him to chuck on the floor.
We still use jars/ pouches sometimes. I spent £12 on Ella's kitchen yesterday!
I mostly eat fresh food, fruit and veg. But I like takeaways, freezer food, pizza from time to time too.
Everything in moderation.
I'm a terrible cook, don't know how I manage to ruin everything I cook but I do! But this makes me very anxious about making DS's (5months) food. For now I will only be doing fruit and veg, either cooked to mush or soft like banana (can't go too wrong) then will probably go to jars for proper meals as I'm scared my cooking will put him off food forever!
Fuckin norahs some of you lot must have acres of time. Mine was fed from jars because I worked full time (and only had the basic 22 wks maternity off). No energy to cook batches of stuff. Not breast fed either. Despite all this he's had 100% attendance for 8 out of 12 compulsory school years and fewer than 8 days off across the other years so what was in the jars and bottles must've been ok!
if i achieve one thing at my dd's school, it will be to abolish the 'perfect attendance' prize. it's only ever won by children who are sent to school regardless of whether they are sick or not...
It doesn't take long to cook baby food gobbin
I am not saying you should have done it.
But its simple and quick.
My DD was bf and I made her food from organic veg.
She got cancer and died when she was 14. I suppose that proves just as much as your son being fit and well
I've done all the different ways. Dd1 was weaned earliest at just under 4 months (she's now 13 - I'd not do that today!) and had mainly home cooked fruit and veg purees until 6-7 months when she started on finger foods. Used jars on holidays. Ds was weaned at around 5 months, again on to home made purée mainly. His fave was sausage, mash and baked beans! He probably had more jars as I was pretty unwell with holdover pregnancy complications and PND. Dd2 was blw almost exclusively, from around 6.5 months.
Dd1 is incredibly fussy, ds is fairly average, and packs away the curry, dd2 eats anything and everything. Her current favourite dish (age 9) is Moules a la Marienere!
i always think about you and your dd at this time of year, MrsD, when the cherry blossom starts to come out...
they are vile though, go on eat a whole one and then see if want your poor baby to eat that shite.
Aitch I wouldn't dream of sending my boy to school ill. I teach and hate it when approached by kids streaming with snot who should've stayed at home, particularly as I take immunosuppressants. My lad's just been generally lucky/healthy.
MrsD sorry for your loss.
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